Should people be allowed to suicide?

[HawkPerception]

Yes

No

[DrPepper12]

If you mean "right to die" laws yes. People who are terminally ill should not have to suffer and should have the absolute right to determine how they exit with dignity and full faculties. If we do this for our pets, how can we deny ourselves the very same compassion and dignity? If anybody comes back with the "it's a sin" crap I'm not listening. It might be a sin for you but you don't have the right to decide for the rest of us.

[Static_In_The_Attic]

People are allowed however assisted suicide isn’t allowed which bullshit.

[Caroline91]

Yeah, like some others on this topic, I have a problem with the word "allow". One of the hardest things I have ever done was protect my father's right to make that decision. He decided he didn't want to live any more and he was hospitalized at the time. He stopped eating and drinking anything. The hospital staff called me as POA and asked me to approve an IV for hydration. I told them I was not Power of Attorney as long as his cognitive function was all right so, no, they could not ignore him and do it anyway. When he told me they were trying to force feed him, I went to the hospital a 6 am and stayed util 7 pm every damn day so I was there for all meal times. I took the tray from the nurses, uncovered the food and offered it to my father. He continued to say no, so I would put the tray down, sit and hold his hand and talk about all kinds of things together. The last thing he had to eat or drink was special to me because I came in one morning with a big cup of coffee. He smelled that and said "umm, smells so good may I have some?" I gave him my cup, he took 3 sips and returned it to me. I sat there, held his hand, drank my coffee and talked with him about all the things he did with me that I loved when I was a little girl. He died that day.

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[Chazmatazz269]

Ever notice how “my body, my choice” doesn’t apply to men, ever? Societally we are expected to produce and provide. When we don’t, we’re useless or selfish. All the way up to suicide. A man’s life doesn’t belong to him. No matter how much pain he endures, he’s expected to continue to endure pain so that others, mostly women and children, can benefit from his existence. Somehow, the beneficiaries of a man’s suffering are never “selfish”. Just the man who decides it’s time he suffers no more.
Oh, and this is “patriarchy”. Ell oh ell!

[Caroline91]

@Chazmatazz269 Good God, no... It breaks my heart to see anyone in that much pain. I don't think there's a good answer to this question. How do you "allow" someone to commit suicide or not? As to your comments about men and suicide... I know it is often viewed as selfish, which I don't understand. How is an act of desperation ever selfish? It's just desperate. So, the question becomes how do we respond to someone BEFORE they become so desperate? I don't have an answer, but that's sure as hell not because I'm not thinking about it... All I can come up with is, at this point, there's just not enough love in this world. Women can do a lot to change that... Starting with bringing up little boys who are allowed to express their feelings.

[DrPepper12]

Id like to suggest "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He's from the Stoic school of philosophy and I Really think you would benefit.

[Finchie40]

It’s their life so they can choose what they want to do , No matter what anyone else says , but if someone can stop them from committing suicide? than all that person is trying to do is help them and stop them from killing themselves , hoping they don’t follow through. I lost a few best friends that decided to kill themselves , no one knew they were going to do it , so there was no way of stopping it from happening

[HawkPerception]

Sounds like you're not picking one way or the other

[Finchie40]

I choose not to kill myself , even though it has crossed my mind a few times when things went to shit in my life , but I was able to pull myself back together , and realized I am not going to be a coward and push myself forward. Sadly some people can’t do that and decide to end their life. The way I look at it is we are all going to die one of these days , so it’s best to just move forward and see where life takes you , and try to make the best of it as. Best as you can

[HawkPerception]

Believe it or not, I believe it takes a lot of courage to suicide

[Finchie40]

I think a lot of it stems down to mental illness , not having much control over yourself , our brains our a powerful tool that absorbs and controls most of our lives , we absorb so much information in our brains that we don’t really know we are absorbing , if the brain malfunctions with to much negativity and sadness and stress etc. it can possibly trigger someone to fall into a deep depression that takes over their life , making them feel like they don’t really give a fuck about anything anymore. Making it easier for them to end their life. Why there are so many anti depressant medications out there to help subside the way your brain thinks.

[DrPepper12]

I think it takes a bit more just to live...

[bolverk]

It would be hard to stop anyone who wanted to commit suicide, but there is a vast difference between Men & Women, If a Woman attempts to commit suicide, they rarely carry it through to completion and it is seen as a 'Call/Plea for help', and there are multiple agencies that act as a 'safety net' for them. Whereas Men rarely attempt to commit suicide, they carry it through to completion, because they know that there is no 'safety net' for them, there are no agencies there for them, below are the figures for 2021from the CDC, and it has only gotten worse over recent years.

[strateguy632]

your question is too vague. if they succeed... at this crime, too late to punish anyway!

if they try but failed, they didn't do the crime! so which situation is "allowing it" hav any meaning?

but isn't this a pattern? people writing about over population and suicide on the same day. i wonder who sent you to ask today?

[strateguy632]

same asker too!

[HawkPerception]

I'm simply pondering life and curious about peoples answers. Intelligent assumptions doesn't seem to be your forte

[4ngelic]

if the person is an adult and of sound mind i dont see why not. some people are fucked in life and death might not be such a bad idea compared to the alternative, especially that life is objectively meaningless and we all die anyways

[kareenakapur]

yes if going to die with another illness especially

[Unit1]

Allowed?

I respect a person's wish to control their own destiny and that includes ending themselves.

[HawkPerception]

So when someone prevents someone from jumping, are they doing a service or disservice for humanity?

[Unit1]

Neither i'd say. i don't see much of a connection

[DarkLegacy]

Only for a terminal illness or illness that gives them no quality of life.

[TonyMetal___86]

Surely no!