Why are Conservative parties in Europe growing stronger. The failure of socialism?

[Drewtate]

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[Astarlessnightsky]

socialism? da fuck?

Its because conservatives and espacially far right parties are good at offering easy but bullshit "solutions" and are giving a fuck about facts. They just repeat lies over and over again until they are believed.

They also cash in on paranoia and fears, while downplaying real but not so immenant dangers.

And they are really good at social media and buying up and employing independent media outlets for their purpose, as they are owned by rich conservatives, who are gladly sacraficing their journalism integrety.

[Drewtate]

Don't be silly it's the billionaires that are backing socialist ideas, mostly because it put money on their own pocket.

[Knightwatch27]

Socialism has failed since day one. The very concept is failed. Conservatism is growing because people are waking up to the dangers of uncontrolled immigration, non-existent integration/assimilation. And its getting tired of woke movements questioning everything of reason, truth and rationality and of the self-flagellant culture of the modern west. If the west is to survive against communist and expansionist China, warring Russia, and terrorist middle eastern islamic countries, it needs to reconquer its conservatism, its sense of self, its premise in objective reality and its patriotism.

[Drewtate]

Left wingers in Europe don't take the warning, they always double down on their bullshit even harder.

[Anonymous]

No, because people are fed up with muslims and immigrants in general. They ruin our countries, cultures, heritage and society completely. People also don’t want our countries to become as fucked up as the US/Canada with it’s 5000000 pronouns, catself, trans hormones for kids, illegal to ”misgender” and what not. Cautionary examples and that may be where we’re heading too and people want to stop it.

[Kaneki05]

Hate to break it you but Europe is way more made of separate cultures than America so by such logic we would be way beyond them if having culture from other countries was the problem.
Also you said it yourself it's mostly Muslims? Who have traditional values who don't agree with such views on gender so wouldn't that just help keep those values than hurt them?
How does that equate at all to trans or genders they don't agree with that therefore the actual logic would be make us all Muslim and that would disappear.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people are fed up of problems caused by immigration and migration from the middle east & africa. Then there's the rural native working class feeling like the left is failing them time and time again so they're willing to try the alternative

[Billlewis]

That's just one obvious reason. It's also too expensive and doesn't generate sufficient revenue to sustain itself. But don't worry -- millions upon millions of white women will still pull that lever for it anyway, because they find it more emotionally appealing... can you believe this shit? Oh, are they in for a rude awakening...

[normalice]

Billionaires own all the media and so are tricking people into voting conservative over pointless culture ware nonsense.

[Drewtate]

Billionaires fund left wing parties.

[normalice]

And do imagine the left wing parties that billionaires fund are staying out of the culture war nonsense? Or are they all policy focused?

[normalice]

Welp. I butchered the grammar in that response.

But anyway, I was talking about media not parties.

[_piotr]

Nobody else has such great funding as left wing parties.

[normalice]

Yes, the ultra rich are historically known for their far left socialist generosity and advocacy for spreading the wealth 😂

[Joshydavid25]

They are tired of these silly Leftist policies ruining the country.. They see that the conservatives at least wannabe do something about it, so they are voting for the party that might actually get them results...

[Kaneki05]

Dunno anything about other countries in Europe but England just voted in Labour who hadn't had such power since 20 years ago.
And they are left party that basically exists thanks to Marx.

[Drewtate]

Labour barely scraped through with 34% of the vote. Labour actually received their lowest vote ever. The Conservatives too with 24%. Labour beating the SNP in Scotland was what got them in power again.
The system seems a bit messed up check these figures.
Labour Party: 35 percent vote share, 412 seats
Conservative Party: 24 percent vote share, 121 seats
Liberal Democrats: 12 percent vote share, 71 seats
Reform UK: 14 percent vote share, 4 seats
Green Party: 7 percent vote share, 4 seats
Scottish National Party (SNP): 2 percent vote share, 9 seats
Sinn Fein: 0.7 percent vote share, 7 seats
Plaid Cymru: 0.7 percent vote share, 4 seats.
So Nigel Farage's Reform UK party beat the Liberal Democrats but only won 4 seats compared to the Liberal Democrats 71.
Put it this way the UK conservative party are more on the left than the Democrats in the US.

[Kaneki05]

Labour won by a landside. You seem to fail to understand how our system works.
412 seats and 35% of the vote is tons here since like you've shown we've got multiple parties that spreads out a lot of the votes.
It's would very unlikely to be high percentage like 80% or something because that would mean somehow tons of people didn't decide to vote for the smaller parties.

If you look up Election percentages throughout the years. The highest Tories got was 60% but that was more of anomaly every other time it's always been around 50% or lower.
Meanwhile Labour have been around 40% and when Labour win it's normally due Tories going lower than 40% while Labour still gets that consistent 40%. The highest Labour has is 44% I think.
So 35% been lowest? Actually shows you how dedicated and consistent their numbers are compared to Tories which Flux's way more.
It also shows how bad Tories have been to say they only got 24%.

And that is true Tories are more left than US but how does that help your point? That backs up my point. That England is not really showing strength in conservative parties.

[alice55]

In France people are fed up with being second class citizen in their own countries after all the illegal immigrant

[Dargil]

The flood of non-assimilating immigrants. The crime and flood to infrastructure.

[Dongie]

It takes some people to be lead away from the left. Most of them are leftists because they were brainwashed into being idiots.

[_piotr]

People have enaugh of wokeness and other stupidities.

[handsomelad70]

The disgusting Tories were laid waste in the recent U. K. election, Marine Le Pen's bunch of crypto-Fascists were defeated in France. Perhaps people are (at last) awakening to the mortal threat of the racialist right.

[RavVid]

I am not so sure about socialism but I am sure about the Left being a failure.

A lot of conservative parties adopt socialist aspects.

[SotiCoto]

Probably the gradual spreading realisation that muslims are NOT the poor, hard-done-by minority they claim to be and that they are gangs of aggressive rapist scum-bags.

[gorydetails]

They’re growing stronger, but the globalists cheat to win anyway.

[RedInnocent69]

Um, they’re not. Look at France and the UK… politics is cyclical anyway.

[Drewtate]

Official results showed that RN and its allies received 33% of the national popular vote, with the leftwing New Popular Front in second with 28%. President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist bloc was third on 20% of the vote.

[KrakenAttackin]

The invasion of Islam and rape of the countries has caused the pendulum to swing.

[Heydrich]

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