When do you think Israel will win the war against the Arab terrorists?

[Anonymous]

[Lliam]

I am praying for Israelis to suffer the same terror and anguish that they have inflicted upon millions of Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians.

Those eastern Europeans colonists/occupiers were terrorists, starting in the mid-1930s, before they illegally declared independence in 1948. Remember the King David Hotel and the Nakba. Those and many other acts of terrorism were unprovoked. And remember the USS Liberty.

Israelis claim a right to self defense. But everyone else has the right to defend themselves against Israeli aggression.

I hope Netanyah and hundreds more like him are brought before Nuremberg-like trials and found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity as were the Nazis. The only think standing in the way is the U. S., and that makes the U. S. complicit in evil.

[Bricealan]

@Lliam I cannot believe what I am reading here. You do realize this has been going on for HUNDREDS of years? Do you recall the Crusades? Well, you believe what you want to believe. .

[Kelly6]

@Lliam
Looks like age does give wisdom and knowledge

[Daniela1982]

@Kelly6 Not in this case. Some people know nothing about the shit Israel has been put to by the countries surrounding it. Read my MyTake for more information.

[mrkdvsn]

Glad to see you mentioned the USS Liberty. Something I've ONLY heard about on Trunews... EXTENSIBLY on Trunews

[blueonblack22]

Maybe we should ask “Gays for Palestine” what they think. They are such keen level intellects on this whole conflict.

I also really got to respect white western women supporting Hamas and radical Islam. I am sure they would be treated with so much “respect” if they suddenly found themselves in Gaza. It wouldn’t be like they would be immediately raped and/or forced into sexual slavery or anything.

Also let’s keep calling Israeli Jews “colonizers” despite the fact Jews occupied Israel for entire millennia before Islam existed.

[Asker]

It is actually male israeli soldiers that would be a higher chance of raping them

[blueonblack22]

Did we just conveniently forget what the Hamas terrorists did to the Israeli women on October 7th, 2023? Brutally raping women and murdering then while they will STILL inside them? Taking GoPro videos and bragging about what they did?

At least the Nazis tried to hide their atrocities against Jews. Hamas bragged about it.

[Asker]

That is actually incorrect. The liar journalists made up stories. Families and victims of the terrorist attack had to speak out against the lying media.

[blueonblack22]

Sources? The NY Times reported about the heinous atrocities the Hamas terrorists committed and they are a far LEFT leaning media outlet.

www.nytimes.com/.../...israel-sexual-violence.html

[Asker]

Perfect example. The family of the victim came out and said she wasn't raped. Again there is no evidence of rape on October 7th. medium.com/.../deconstructing-screams-without-words-58260a824d70 and also mondoweiss.net/.../

[blueonblack22]

This is a medium article written by a so called “independent” journalist. She has no accountability to verify the facts about her opinions.

But speaking of opinion this sentence really stood out about where her allegiances lie:

“ After a few lines about the October “massacre” by Hamas “terrorists” (and Hamas is always described this way),”

So in essence having an armed military force intentionally murdering unarmed civilians, killing as many as possible, brutally raping the woman, murdering children in their cribs and above all BRAGGING about it somehow isn’t “terrorism”? Gotcha.

I have no idea where you are from miss pink anon. But if you are a young white western woman, then I really wish I could of sent you to Gaza during a PEACE time to see how Hamas would treat you. Really like to see what would happen to you.

[Bricealan]

@blueonblack22 I can't believe what I am reading here, from those that are anti Israel, and pro terrorists... Thanks for a bit of sanity here in your reply...

[blueonblack22]

@Bricealan when you got “Gays for Palestine” protesting then you know all hope is lost.

These same people would get free bungee jumping lessons off buildings with no bungee cords if they found themselves in Gaza. It’s like what Netanyahu said: “chickens for KFC”.

[Asker]

The medium article is explaining media bias and atrocity propaganda, the second source is the family of the "victim' in the ny times article saying that it was written by Israeli soldiers, no evidence, and their daughter wasn't raped, it was a lie like many others

[blueonblack22]

And why would the New York Times which is very left wing media outlet publish such an article like this?

Also are you denying that women were raped by Gaza terrorists on October 7th?

[Asker]

Because it isn't an issue or left or right wing.

[blueonblack22]

I wish it wasn’t. But it is. If it wasn’t you see such ass backwards “Gays for Palestine” movements. It’s about having common ground for hating western society.

www.ap.org/.../

Israel is the ONLY free democracy in the Middle East. It’s an isolated western outpost surrounded by countries that want to annihilate the entire country.

[Asker]

Would you be happy having a fully Arab islamist ethnostate within the USA that is funded by an Eastern superpower? If not, then you have the same rationale as all the people in the middle east

[blueonblack22]

And what if that “ethnostate” was occupied by Arabs thousands of years ago? If native Americans had their own “ethnostate” in the USA (and a country not a reservation) it would be hard to argue they are “colonizers.”

Hamas spent billions of aide money that was meant for urban development on terror tunnels and military supplies. No other Arab country will take them in either.

[Asker]

That is just disinformation, not even our own media are as dumb as you Americans 😂

[blueonblack22]

Yep I can tell when the other person is losing an argument they resort to personal insults (and pathetic medium articles).

But as for “disinformation” how do you explain this?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna121099

[Asker]

They were funded by Netanyahu in the 1980s to undermine the secular PLO. Now Hamas are Gazans only line of defence.

[blueonblack22]

“Line of defense”. Ah Hamas is the one who is always initiating attacks with their rockets and worse. They took even took materials that was meant to build water pipes for their civilians and repurposed them to build rockets.

Israel voluntarily completely pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005 and then Hamas took over and they quickly built up their terrorist regime. They brainwash young children to hate Jews. They even cartoon programs depicting Jews as evil to brainwash young children to hate Israelis.

On top of that Israel is 20% Arab. Of course there are NO Jews living in the Gaza Strip. And again NO other Arabic countries will take them in. Nobody else wants them and the Israel is left to deal with them.

[Kelly6]

I see Israel as terroristswho are killing >40k children and women.

I don't care how others see.

I'm a mom of 4 kids so I can understand the feeling 😔

[red-lipstick-girl]

BENTo hell with Israel, I hope they experience the same things they did to Palestine, I hope Israel dies.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Ever since Palestinians celebrated 9/11 with dancing in the streets, I couldn't care less if Israel kills every Muslim in the middle east.

I guess the war will be over when God declares it's over, because both sides swear to God they were promised all the land by their version of God.

[Asker]

You should Google "dancing Israelis"

[lightbulb27]

one of my earliest memories was the olympics where terrorists killed israeli athletes.

they will be about some stability at some point for a while, but I doubt there's every lasting peace as long as they are where they are.

I suggest israel pack up and buy a chunk of land somewhere else... it be a lot easier for them. buy alaska!

What's going on is a family territorial squabble... that is causing death and misery.

[strateguy632]

You sound like sheldon in series big bang.
But israel was revived their historical homeland.

[EyesOfGod]

Funny thing that US Generals predicted all of this would happen in the 1940's if the US would support Israel. If Israel never existed we wouldn't be dealing with middle eastern extremism. But the American Zionist party had too much influence in the US government and their underhanded and terroristic acts of a rogue state grabbed the US by the balls.

[strateguy632]

So iran didn't battle iraq? 1986!
Iraq didn't battle kuwait? 1991!
Isis never battled syria? . Those cause all the problems in mideast!

[Avicenna]

It depends on how you define winning. If it’s the survival of the State of Israel, it already has. If it’s eliminating the terrorist threat, never- even if Iran becomes an ally of Israel one day, there will be other state sponsors of terrorism filling the void.

[Bricealan]

I am hard pressed to believe what I am reading here, with someone saying they see Israel, as the terrorists in the conflict. I really hope Israel does win and stops what is going on... But then again... we have had our share of Arab terrorism here in the U. S. Does anyone remember 911? No, I'm sure they don't. How many men, women and children were burned to death in that?

Hard to believe what I am reading here... then again,... maybe not so hard to believe.

[jshm2]

No. As Israel is the proper terrorist in many cases, ever since they bombed out the British, they have not changed much.

[Asker]

Lol okay

[Avicenna]

He’s a British Muslim, by the way

[Vivaldi]

@Avicenna

He must originate from middle east, not actual British.

[AmeerX]

Aren't you the same Israeli girl who said if Military girls are datable?


For you to understand this, please if you feel you are doing Israel a service then sorry you are doing a great disservice. If Israel doesn't want to make any effort to make people of Arab or diverse ethnic background live peacefully in it's own lands then they are just setting a wrong trend here.

[Berethor]

Israel have many insane islamic enemies, so it not going to be easy to win this war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63174835

[Garud]

So much money has been wasted that a new country could have been built next to Israel and even better than Israel, but there is no limit to madness

[BCA6010]

They're not going to "win" against a widespread, inter-tribal ideology. They can achieve periods of peace until the next war, but it'll never end.

[Rashmixoxo]

Erm.. Israel is the real terrorist. Obviously. I hope they decolonise Palestine and return to where they came from.

[Daniela1982]

@Rashmixoxo Israel and Palestine were part of the promised land given to Israel by God long ago. They aren't going anywhere.
Genesis 15: 18

On that day Hashem made a covenant with Avram, saying, “To your offspring I assign this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates:

15:18 To your offspring I assign this land

In this monumental covenant between Hashem and Avraham, God states that on this day He has given the Land of Israel to Avraham’s descendants. While Hashem uses the term natatee (נתתי), ‘I have given,’ in the past tense, in reference to generations that have not yet been born, Rashi explains that this is not a grammatical error. Since God’s word is the ultimate truth, it is as if it has already been done. Though it took more than four hundred years until this promise was fulfilled, the children of Avraham waited with faith. This patient waiting served as good practice for the nearly two thousand years of waiting that preceded our present return to Zion. With the birth of the State of Israel, another promise to Avraham has been fulfilled.

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 the natives have always been there. It's the natives who changed their religion from Judaism to Christianity to Islam. When you speak of rape, do you acknowledge the horrific acts of IDF like them unleashing trained dogs on elderly Palestinian women to rape them? I haven't seen anyone else do that. 18,000+ plus children massacred, I see who's the murderer, rapist, kidnapper.

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 Just because you chose to ignore, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
No worries, I'll be the informer you need.

https//euromedmonitor. org/en/article/6383/Gaza:-Israeli-army-systematically-uses-police-dogs-to-brutally-attack-Palestinian-civilians,-with-at-least-one-reported-rape

https//www. google. com/amp/s/www. middleeastmonitor. com/20240325-gazan-woman-israel-unleashed-dogs-on-us-forced-us-to-evacuate/amp/

https//www. google. com/amp/s/amp. theguardian. com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 I couldn't post links due to my level but you can copy paste the links and add ':' after the https to open them. Evidences don't lie. Israel has been known to strip Palestinians naked, parade them, killing children, using dogs to rape women. It's not hidden. I don't know why you are so uninformed.

[Agape93]

Thank you for giving sources, I appreciate it.

Now, for the third time, will you also acknowledge that Israel was wronged when Palestinian terrorists attacked Israeli and foreign citizens?

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 how? It was Israel who attacked and occupied West Bank in 1967, Hamas was formed in 1987. I used to believe that others are terrorists as well. But then again, the narratives do not match with the facts and history.

[Agape93]

So you say it was justified to attack Israeli and foreign civilians? To gang rape, kidnap, mutilate and murder innocent people?

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 justified to attack Israel after Israel's repeated unchecked violations? Yes.
Gang rape, kidnap and mutilate? Erm.. There are videos of hostages being released by the Hamas and there are videos of hostages being released by the IDF, you can see the difference between the people's expressions. I could post the links but my level isn't enough. But you can check it though.

[Agape93]

So you won't acknowledge what hamas has done to innocent people, you just deflected for the fourth time now.

So, yet again, will you acknowledge what was done to the innocent Israeli and foreign civilians was wrong, or will you deflect again?

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 except the fact that hamas didn't misbehave with the hostages, didn't blindly kill children, unleashed trained dogs to rape the women or stripped the women naked.

Will you acknowledge that Israel is a colonial state made by the alliances after bringing in the settlers who now bomb the civilians, hospitals, massacre children all under the label of 'eliminating terrorists' by acting like terrorists themselves?

[Agape93]

Still waiting for the answer to a basic yes or no. Answer mine, I'll answer yours.

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 you have my answer. It's a 'no' because nothing of that sort happened.

[Agape93]

Except it did, and is still going in. That is a fact. So it's a yes, or a no. If you provide anything besides a yes it was OK, or no it was not ok, your answer will be disregarded as you deflecting again. If you want my answer to your question, you will answer mine

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 lol choosing to ignore won't do much good. It won't affect me in my life in any way on being so hell bent to convince a random person on the internet about what's truly going on. You could rather be learning what's really happening than trying to make yourself feel better by stuffing words in my mouth lol. You know my stance, hope you read the real news.
Take care! 😊

[Agape93]

So you're good with the murder, gang rape and mutilation of innocent people. Gotcha, then don't complain when it happens to those in Palestine, before they get wiped out, one by one.

@OlderAndWiser disagreements one thing, but I detest liars and bad faith actors. So you know what this brats about.

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 when did I say that I'm good with all that? I did condemn the culprits.. That is Israel.

[Agape93]

I asked you if it was acceptable for those things to happen to Israeli and foreign citizens, and you repeatedly deflected and denied it happening despite it being already proven to have occurred. Since you won't acknowledge it was wrong to do that to them, that pretty much tells me what you believe. If I'm wrong, say it.

[Rashmixoxo]

@Agape93 lol you already proved my point by saying that I shouldn't complain about Palestinians getting wiped out one by one. That tells enough that you acknowledge what Israel is doing. Got my answer.

[Agape93]

And you've yet to give an answer yourself. You act like I mischaracterised you, but you've yet to show me I was wrong.

[Daniela1982]

@rashmixoxoYou been watching Fox News again? Where are you reading this shit like dogs raping women? 🙄 Or 18,000 children massacred? Where is the proof?

[OlderAndWiser]

@Agape93 Profile says she is a 16 year old girl from India, level 2. I've never seen her before tonight and this is probably a troll. I wouldn't take this seriously.

[Agape93]

Normally I wouldn't either, but when someone's toxic enough where even i get ticked off, I'm gonna warn one of y'all so you know when shit like this keeps happening.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Agape93 It's on my radar!

[Goahead76]

@OlderAndWiser @ Daniela1982 @Agape93 She's right on her facts though guys. The IDF has killed 44k civilians in the last year, 18k children is right. Another 180,000 minimum have died because Israel cut off food water & electricity.

[OlderAndWiser]

How many of those died because Hamas used innocent civilians as shields?

[Rashmixoxo]

@OlderAndWiser doesn't matter. I have posted the links as well. If you all wish to educate yourself, go ahead. Otherwise ignorance is always a bliss, eh? Wouldn't make IDF any better or The Palestinians any worse. Call me a 16 year old or a troll, wouldn't change anything either.

[Rashmixoxo]

@OlderAndWiser it's not hamas which used people as shields, sir. It's what the Israeli occupying force does.

[Goahead76]

@OlderAndWiser. It isn't possible, we're talking something on the order of 250,000 civilians killed. Israel just the other day firebombed a hospital where the people outside could hear the people inside screaming as they burned to death. They use these arguments to justify mass murder. Look at the killing of the Hezbollah leader Nasrallah. They dropped 170,000 pounds of bombs on a densely packed civilian area to get this guy. A guy who will be quickly replaced. 5000 to 1 ratio of innocents killed. This not a professional military, it's a killing rampage.

[Daniela1982]

@Goahead76 post a link to that news article. If it's from Fox it is exaggerated. 🙄

[OlderAndWiser]

Counterarguments don't matter when you are 16 and convinced you are the smartest person on the planet.

[Rashmixoxo]

@OlderAndWiser never said that I'm the smartest it's you who's trying to put words in my mouth and alleging me of stuff to disregard the facts I'm putting up. Wouldn't change the reality, again.

[Goahead76]

@Daniela1982 I'm not sure what Fox reports on or not. I generally wouldn't trust most American media on this since lot of the big media conglomerates in the US have jewish CEO's and are probably pretty decent people, but they're not going to be into trashing Israel no matter how awful their behavior. I'll try to post some interesting links on this & you can judge.

[Goahead76]

@Daniela1982 So here's one that's important, by The Lancet which is regarded as probably the most prestigious medical journal in the world on trying to assess how many people Israel has killed in the last year. So there's two categories, civilians who died violently from bombs, guns, or being crushed under the rubble, which now stands at about 44k. The other is people who have died of starvation, thirst, exposure, wounds, infections, etc. Since Israel has cut off all food, water, and electricity, and Gaza being essentially a giant concentration camp these people have no way to get food from the outside. The Lancet estimates that another 180k at minimum have died from starvation etc.

www.thelancet.com/.../fulltext?origin=serp_auto

[Goahead76]

@Daniela1982. So if we just guess though and say that children make up, let's say 20% of the population as a low estimate. So that would mean 20% of the 44k killed violently plus the other 180k starved would mean were talking like 45k children dead and our tax money paid for all of it. Anyway this is too horrible and heartbreaking to think about.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Goahead76 Is October 7 too horrible for you to think about?

[Daniela1982]

@Goahead76 Israel did not cut off supplies. Most of it was stolen and the aid workers were fearing for their lives from Hamas attacks. I'm sure some were even killed. The people were not getting what was sent so they stopped sending it. The US has told them to continue or no more weapons. But then again, the US told them to give back the land they won in the 1967 war that was not in their best interests. But the listened to the US and got screwed. I don't see them listening to the US again.

[Goahead76]

@OlderAndWiser There's some important things to understand about Oct 7. Israel killed nearly half of those killed that day by invoking the Hannibal directive. It authorizes killing the hostages to deny them being used as bargaining chips. So the IDF Apache helicopters fired on anything that moved essentially because they had to assume they were full of hostages. Another incident involved Hamas fighters, who had 14 people held inside a house. What did the Israeli military do? Rolled up in a tank and fired two tank shells into the house, killing everyone inside but one. By the way, if you want sources on Israel killing its own people, it was reported by Haaretz. When major Israeli newspapers started digging into the reports of beheaded babies they couldn't find any proof of it. It was a hoax it was made up. It was an excuse to kill tens of thousands of people, and now they're on to the stage of killing the rest by starvation.

[Goahead76]

@Daniela1982. If you remember back in April there was a group called the World Kitchen, and aid group that works with the UN & goes to war zones, natural disasters and feeds thousands of people. In April they delivered a bunch of food to starving Palestinians, what did Israel do, murdered everyone in the convoy. Israel sent a drone that systematically blew up the first car in the convoy, then the second, the third on down the line. As people tried to jump out of their cars and run they were killed. I believe one person survived. Why did Israel do this, as a message to any other aid groups or charity organizations, "DON'T send any more aid".

[strateguy632]

When jesus returns.

But until then people will continue obeying quran. We all know what is in iit.

[Dargil]

Once they expel "Palestinians", war will stop with Sunni. When they finish devastating Iran, their wars will end with Shia.

[strateguy632]

You skipd a step. When israel does not submit to biden they would devastating iran and no shia troubles.

[KostasKouvalis]

When they throw a nuclear bomb on that whole region, because otherwise it will never end. They killed that Yayah guy, so what? There's thousands more like him.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Not in my lifetime realistically.

Idc about your tribal conquest of historical territory, just stop acting like a victim and whining for USA help.

[Syntosi]

When has anyone ever won a "war" against terrorists? Its impossible.

[Amur8711]

Yeah, you can't kill an ideology. Even if you think you wiped them out completely, there will always be someone who lives.

[slatyb]

Never. There will always be more terrorists. Violence begets violence.

[Anonymous]

They've already won. If hamas, hezbollah, iran and Yemen would stop firing rockets and release the hostages the war would end.

[Massageman]

Yes - we already know the outcome of Israel vs the World.

[noohair]

It is not up to Israel, it is up to parents to not teach hate to their children. And that goes for both sides.

[nawtee_me]

Israel is a nation God set up and no one will destroy.

[Asker]

Yes sir

[RedInnocent69]

I think they have. Their history is such that they will never not have terrorists, but what’s happening now is about imperialism not terrorism.

[In_Trance]

Ridiculous

[Anonymous]

If all of their female soldiers are as hot as the girl on the picture, they can easily distract them during the combat.

[Asker]

Lol maybe

[Shamalien]

There is no worse conflict…both sides are committing terrible atrocities.

[Goahead76]

It will be interesting. We're going to find out if Israel can kill its way to peace.

[EyesOfGod]

They've been trying since their founding hasn't really worked out yet

[Goahead76]

@EyesOfGod Exactly.

[msc545]

After they kill every living person in Gaza so they can steal the land.

[Anonymous]

It's been on since the bible was still wet unless they clear everyone out there's not a serious chance and that are being so so slow

[beefcakebradybatson]

Perhaps, but at what cost to the Palestinians and humanity in general?

[HelpfulWoman]

troll be trolling

[FreyaRed]

Never. Politically Israel lost already

[Anonymous]

Hopefully soon but I dont really like Israel because of they are jew but against them arabs worse

[exitseven]

I would not bet against them.

[Jackblue]

When we have abolished the UN.

[Anonymous]

I hope they slaughter them all.

[CuriousMufuxka]

As soon as Palestine cucks for Canada.

[OddBeMe]

Did the US in afghan and iraq?

[moneymagnet24]

Who is she? She is so fuckin hot 🔥 🔥

[Agape93]

Natalia fadeev.

[Anonymous]

I certainly wish them all the best!

[ThebestIndian]

Lol. terrorits you said?

[Agape93]

Yeap.

[Anonymous]

When Palestine stops pretending they are a nation.