Should the government invent a program called "adult support" that helps single childless adults that are facing hardships?

[Cherrylicious]

The reason I ask is because a lot of government financial assistance programs often cater to families with children, pregnant women and disabled people while excluding able-bodied single childless adults who are in desperate need of financial assistance especially being that we pay the most taxes which is totally unfair.

The hypothetical "Adult support" program will aim to provide a $2,500 monthly benefit to single childless adults that are making no more than $30,000 per year this will obviously help them cover their financial housing expenses such as rent, mortgage, monthly car payments, grocery bills, phone bill, internet bill Etc.

It is unfair to make a broad generalizing assumption belief that every single able-bodied childless adults are capable of making enough money to survive when inflation is high making it very difficult to afford groceries and keep up with the cost of living.

This program will also benefit us since we also pay taxes for people to be able to afford section 8, or any sort of welfare assistance that enables them to be able to sit at home collecting monthly benefits especially those who have children so why can't we get the same sort of help and benefits in return?

Being a single childless person is not a walk in the park because everything falls on us especially if we do not have a roommate or a romantic partner to help share the monthly Financial responsibilities. So it will be very unfair to assume that a person without children can survive off of a $2,500 monthly income when there are so many other bills that come into play and no one ever thinks about that. No one should be left out of receiving financial help and that includes single childless people.

[Clear_Skies10]

If you live in the United States it's a capitalist society. Trump will tax you everyday consumers by putting tariffs on other countries. Then that tax money that you pay through higher priced goods, goes towards tax cuts for the richest people and corporations in America. They don't care about social programs for the poor. Having all the money is what gives the billionaires the power over everyone else.

[Avicenna]

If you’re looking for a propaganda job with the Democratic Party, that’s a great audition

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna I'm m a politically independent Canadian. I'm somewhat centrist, but there's no denying what Trump does with tariffs, and that money isn't going to help poor people in America, that's for sure.

[Avicenna]

Well, you’re ignoring that the tariffs have less of an impact than your assuming- in fact, they haven’t showed up in the inflation statistics, in large part because producers and importers are eating the cost, but also because they aren’t as high as you’re assuming.

You also don’t seem to know what goes to poor people. Nor are you apparently aware that the poor have benefited from Trump enforcing US immigration law- more blue collar jobs have been going to US citizens rather than to illegals, who also depress blue collar wages.

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna The companies importing the goods aren't gonna eat the costs for long
The prices will go up, and the tariffs will be paid by the consumers eventually. Places like Walmart are already warning that the cost of goods is gonna go up.

[Avicenna]

We’ll see. But think about this. If you were a retailer looking to raise prices, wouldn’t this be the time when you’d try to sneak them through?

Aldo note that the tariffs from Trump’s first term didn’t result in inflation.

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna Well, that's quite a conspiracy theory, but the reality is that the tariffs are a tax that American importers have to pay on the goods. If they cost more to import, then they will cost more to buy in the stores. If Trump plans on keeping tariffs in place long-term, then there's no way around it. Importers and businesses can't afford to pay more for products unless consumers pay more for them as well.

[Clear_Skies10]

Consumers will end up paying the tariff tax to Trump.

[Avicenna]

In theory, yes, but as I have pointed out to you, that’s not necessarily what happens in the real world.

www.consumeraffairs.com/.../...tariffs-072325.html

www.npr.org/.../automakers-eating-tariff-costs

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna I'm not going to any links, but I told you how tariffs work
The American government is gonna be taking in billions and billions of dollars in tax money from American consumers. What he does with the money is yet to be seen, but I guarantee you that the richest people in America like Trump, will continue to pay very little taxes because of it. If you can take from the poor to pay the bills, it's ideal for the capitalists.

[Avicenna]

You clearly aren’t a centrist, and I have taught economics, including university level courses, so I know exactly what the theory says.

What effective tax rate would be the one you think the rich should pay?

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna I don't need your assessment of my ideological beliefs, nor do I need to calculate a fair tax rate for your super rich to be paying. I do know that people like Bernie Sanders would've taxed the hell out of guys like Trump and also put money into helping the working class. People like Bernie inspired Donald and his rich friends to get involved in politics, and make sure that they continue to pay hardly anything I'm taxes. Trump is gonna bleed the American people for hundreds of billions of dollars, then claim that he did them a favor.

[Avicenna]

So, you’re far left after all (no surprise there), someone who emotes. Leftists like you are prone to huge exaggeration and ideological sinkholes. We see it all the time.

The tariffs are designed to encourage foreign and also US companies to produce in the US.

Somehow, I doubt you were whining when inflation was really high in the US due to Joe Biden’s overspending.

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna It will take longer than Trump's term to build the manufacturing facilities and infrastructure in the US in order for America to produce everything themselves, not to mention that there's reasons that the the United States imported all those products to begin with. It's cheaper to have them made in foreign countries, and the labor is cheaper as well. As soon as Trump is out of office you people will likely elect a liberal and these tariffs will be done. Then most of Trump's plans will fall by the wayside, and American companies will be stuck with the aftermath. Anyway, we're getting off topic. None of this stuff is going to help the woman who asked the question. Even if Trump gives Americans a rebate check from the tariffs at some point, it will be a miniscule fraction of what he took from them
It sure as hell won't be no $2500 a month to help low income people like the OP is asking for.

[Avicenna]

The idea isn’t to produce everything on the US. Joe Biden didn’t reverse many of Trump’s tariffs from his first term, so the next President may not be able to.

$2500 a month per person is insane and will destroy the incentive to earn more money. No one has yet to answer why these able bodied people can’t work a second job, if needed.

[Clear_Skies10]

@Avicenna I'm not an American, I'm not saying if her request is right or wrong. I'm just explaining why it won't happen, and why she shouldn't expect any other new social programs under her current administration.

[loveslongnails]

The government of which country, the United States? Under the current regime, that would get laughed at. I think you're under the mistaken impression that this government gives a shit about you, especially if you're poor or struggling to get by.

[Simslover92]

I certainly think if they aren't going to up people's salaries and wages then stimulus checks need to be a yearly thing if not more often than that because we can't keep up with inflation. Rent keeps going up and groceries are ridiculous right now. It makes no sense why they haven't thought to give us another stimulus check to help. Or like you said have an adult support program.

[exitseven]

I really get what you are talking about. however, I think that instead of giving handouts to single adults, the welfare system needs to be revisited. There needs to be a time limit to be able to collect welfare. Just as unemployment has a time limit. It is not designed to be a career choice. Also, people should not be rewarded doe having more illegitimate kids.
I would support the idea of being able to compete for public housing.

[Shiprex]

I kind of support this idea as a childless adult as a shit ton of my taxes have gone to supporting those who've made decisions to pop sprogs and I'm not a charity in the slightest.

[Avicenna]

Well, are these people working full time? Are they working more than one job?

[Cherrylicious]

Doesn't really matter as long as they are making under $35,000 per year.

[Avicenna]

It does matter. If you can work overtime, more hours, or take on a second job, why should you get money from taxpayers instead?

[msc545]

Of course, it should, but it won't - it is too busy paying off "defense contractors," actually misnamed war contractors, $ 1 trillion+ per year to build unneeded weapons that may or may not work (arguably as to which is worse).

[frysauce]

Andrew Yang ran on the platform to give every American citizen $1,000 per month. The Democrats voted against him in favor of Joe biden.

[noohair]

An economist, I will tell you that when the government tries to fix any problem they wind up causing unintended consequences that makes the overall problem worse.

[Snakeyes7]

No the last thing we need is yet another welfare program. all it will do is keep those who are on it poor by removing incentive to work.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I agree, but a Universal Basic Income (UBI) which would keep folk out of poverty would be much better.

[frysauce]

Andrew Yang ran on the premise of giving every adult American citizen $1,000 per month. The Democrats cast him aside in favor of Joe Biden.

[seeyounexttuesday]

What a bunch of entitled bullshit. Get a better job. Work harder.

[Pterodon]

Fuck no. We need less government not more

[Avicenna]

And less government workers who don’t do anything

[jamesgoldman]

No, just cull those who attempt to claim