Guys, How do you react when a woman (you are one point interested in) starts going off on radical politics you don’t agree with?

[Anonymous]

This isn’t my first rodeo dealing with women who are obsessed about politics.

I had been getting to know a young woman who I met in person once and been messaging since. She never brought up politics (and neither did I) when we first started chatting.

I know she’s an immigrant. Appearance wise she looks white European (not American) but I just found out today she’s from China.

But today out of nowhere she went on this inexplicable rant about far left politics. Then she said “you might be prejudice and don’t realize it”.

And then told her she had zero right whatsoever to say that to me. I never once brought up politics, race, ideology, etc. I didn’t respond to any her messages after that.

I was left completely disgusted and pissed off. Depressed too. Because this isn’t the first time I’ve seen young women act this way in modern times. That mindset can’t be making anyone happy. Especially in dating.

Again this came completely out of nowhere. No provocation. No casual discussion that even alluded to politics. No pretext. Nada. Just out of nowhere she started ranting with zero warning.

And I have been chatting with her for 3 weeks. No indication earlier at all she was like that. She’s just brainwashed. I am just going to walk away from that. Not interested.

NOTE: the radical reverse wouldn’t okay either. Seriously if a woman started going off on far right politics it would still be a red flag for me. But from my observations radical conservative women are extremely rare. 99% of the time they are radical leftists.

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5 mo

I think I am going to intentionally flip the script with bringing up subject matters that can might make her uncomfortable (probably sex).

I kept things light and funny chatting with her earlier but never mentioned sex. Now I think I will start bringing it up more bluntly. Not that I expect that to happen (questioning if I want to). But just return the favor when it comes to blurting out whatever is on your mind to someone you just met. At best I’ll get laid. But if she’s ghosts no big deal.

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5 mo

Politics isn’t the real problem. Even if I agreed with her stances it still be a red flag. Reason being going off a long deranged rants (that were unprovoked and inconsequential) indicates mental instability. Especially when you barely know the person.

And for the record I know a few responses on here are all giddy I experienced given the subject matter. But I can tell you right now this woman will never be long term no matter who she ends up. She wants to live in an echo chamber.

[Hardon-Collider]

I know everything and i am always right. Ahem. I mean if i disagree about something and she's talking then that's a person willing to teach me something I'm ignorant about.

And if she's full of lies, propaganda, false stories, then it's easy to disprove. It's as simple as that. You don't have to invent counter lies to scare others over into supporting your side.

Now that's only true if she talks about real politics.

What she spoke about is not politics even. Well, that incident is ultimately political in a sense, but her speech wasn't about politics. Politics would be about governments. But her "you might be prejudiced without realizing" is psychological discussion. Ideology. Ideologies are political but she's not necessarily "into politics".

You are right, and it sucks. There's so often no way to talk people out of it. But occasionally there is. ㅤ

[Friendlybro79]

I totally understand your frustration. I think today more and more people are becoming hyper sensitive to politics and having to pick sides in so far as it becomes who they are instead of a set of beliefs they have that just affect them when voting time comes around.

I think this isn't just a thing for women. It's happening to many people. I totally agree with not talking about politics in dates lol. You should get to know a person and be able to not care if they're left or right in a relationship as long as the person is good inside.

Being left leaning or right leaning doesn't make a person bad but anytime a person goes to extremes and makes blanket statements about "the other side" it's kind of hard to be with a person like that.

I'm not sure if this is helpful but I have been able to talk but not talk about politics at the same time when dating is still new to get a sense of level headedness and kindness. Unfortunately to your point sometimes things just come out when they get more comfortable. Hey better to find out soon than after months or years. Keep it up and you'll find a winner.

[Friendlybro79]

Oh I forgot but don't get jaded. The percentage of women like this is rare. You seem to be understandably sensitive to this and I get it. Go into a deep red state or town and you'll find radical conservatives. I have met them and it's scary just like it is when anyone is radicalized. Most left leaning and right leaning people are nice. Keep your head up and don't get jaded.

[Asker]

Good response. And it’s hard not to get jaded because I have seen a lot of this insanity in the last 5-10 years coming particularly from young women.

I definitely got my own beliefs but I don’t use it as my core identity. I’m even willing to shift my stances if I can be presented with factual and logical reasons to do so.

But coming at me at of nowhere with this is something I unfortunately have to be prepared for when it comes to dating nowadays. I am old enough to remember a time when this was unheard of. It’s just the sad reality of things.

I mean even if I agreed with her stance I still wouldn’t have liked hearing this. Because it shows that she is obsessed about something that can be extremely unhealthy.

[Friendlybro79]

I get it and it sounds really frustrating. My thought is that it's better to not be with someone like this anyway and you're one step closer to finding the right person for you.

[lightbulb27]

Girls are hormonal, you know that. Add hormones + leftist thinking and you may get flammed. How you handle it will tell a lot. Sometimes it's like a stevie ray vaughn video..."storm movin' in..."... and you just gotta ride the waves.

but if someone is that pig headed consistently, then you decide if you can stomach dealing with it.

[Asker]

The thing is I’m a bit raw around the edges when it comes to this. I live in a deep blue state and I’ve seen women act this way SEVERAL times. It’s a NEW shit test (as if they didn’t shit test enough).

But the ugly truth is this also a red flag she’s not that into me. Because if she was then she’d think twice about going off on a rant on a risky topic matter. Or if she did go off on a rant, she would of walked it back later after she calmed down. But she never apologized. Hence she’s not worried about turning me off which is very bad sign.

I actually did flip the script on her and started bringing up sexual innuendo full well knowing it was making her uncomfortable. She finally said “hey stop it I’m not looking to hook up”. I then told her I knew the whole time she didn’t like that. But I wanted her to see what it’s like to have someone bring up a subject matter that makes you uncomfortable Told her that’s how I felt when she brought up politics with no provocation.

[lightbulb27]

its all a sales game. if you sell her, then she tries to win you over. you aren't going to change anyones opinion. the best I've seen in the news is Vivek Ramaswammy... he can talk his way out of a box.

[Asker]

I know. But she hit a deep nerve with me. I’ve dealt with some prejudices in recent years that something you nor I even had to think twice about 10+ years ago.

We actually blew up with some messaging earlier. I end it off with “well Liliana it was nice talking to you. I hope you have a good night.” She was projecting on to me that I need to “fix myself”. She’s the one with that problem not me.

[lightbulb27]

oh yea, politics will go bad that direction. the emotional environment has changed.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I usually just agree with the parts I agree with. I'll ask her what she thinks should be done and if she really doesn't know what she's talking about I'll just start ranting about mega corporations importing illegals to use as slave labor for farming and how we should be worried about how much land and and food in this country is owned by China.

I think women kind of understand politics as choosing the winning side. The same way many women view dating if you can pick up what I'm putting down. So I find it's a good way to kind of let her be right, not get into an argument but be honest in a subtle way about how a deeper convo is going to go.

[loveslongnails]

I love this part here ~~~~~> "But from my observations radical conservative women are extremely rare. 99% of the time they are radical leftists."

"Radical Conservative Women" are not rare, they're EVERYWHERE; you just don't understand what's radical about them. They're the ones who voted for Trump, which means they're just as dumb as the rest of the cult. What's "radical" about them? Hmm.. wanting to go back 75 years in time thinking it was better, even for women. What's radical about them? Their willingness to surrender control of their own bodies. Their willingness to accept what dumb ass shit the GOP tells them to do. And so on.

Also, 99% of how much time have you actually talked to enough radical women to make that statement? Have you talked to 100 women about politics and 99 of them were "radical" leftists? And what was so radical about them? What crazy shit did they want? Do tell us.

[Asker]

This isn’t about politics. It’s about psychosis. Even if I agreed with some of the things she said it still would be a red flag. Reason being it came absolutely out of nowhere and she ranted and ranted.

But I’m guessing you believe people acting that is normal or even “good” if you agree with them, right?

[loveslongnails]

I didn't say anything about the content because I don't know what she said, other than your declaration that it was "radical left". I also don't know that she's suffering from psychosis; a severe mental disorder often accompanied by hallucinations, delusion and a loss of contact with reality.

Perhaps she's got a lot of pent up anger towards a lot of things and it comes out in these rants. Do I think it's good thing to rant out of nowhere? No. Would I probably drop interest even if I agreed with her? Probably. Is it psychotic? Probably not. More likely it's anger and an assortment of other emotions that block her "dating reality" and common sense.

I was responding to your 99% claim as much as anything else, and I'd still be curious to know what she ranted about! LOL

[Asker]

Well this isn’t the first time I’ve see a young woman do this in regards to politics in a dating situation. And I NEVER bring up politics early in a conversation in dating scenario. Never. But in the last 5-10 years I’ve see several women do this and it’s almost always about leftist politics.

But a few years ago I was in a social setting a woman started to do this. However she got quiet when she saw the look on my face when started talking about this. She then said quietly (talking to herself) “don’t bring up politics in public….” and she was right.

The reason she said that was because I could tell she liked me and realized she made a mistake bringing up a sensitive topic too soon.

But maybe this is just a hint from this other girl that’s she really isn’t interested (despite giving me her contact info). She’s not worried about turning me off. But she still like the attention and validation of me messaging her.

So I can read between the lines here. But still I remember a time where women did not blurt out politics within 5 mins of talking to them.

[loveslongnails]

I remember a time when you could be on either side and it was still basically the same goal, but that time is LONG past. The Republicans turned politics in the USA into a specific identity war, but they used hate, morality judgements and intolerance wrapped in religion in order to do it. They created the monster they wanted, and the division they wanted, and eliminated any middle ground, again, as they wanted.

Now, the question isn't "are you a Republican"... it's "are you a maga, or Trump supporter, and do you condone what's being done by ICE?" People want to know the answer before they get involved with one another because it's a dealbreaker for sure to anyone who isn't a maga, if you are.

If someone is a Scumper, I will treat them with the same politeness and actions that I would any stranger from anywhere. But we will NEVER be friends, nor will I hold them in high regard when it comes to their ability to judge clearly. And I sure as shit wouldn't date a woman once I found out she supported him, so it's one of the FIRST things I want to know about a woman.

[Asker]

Yes I’ve old enough to remember a time when things were very different as well. But look at how you are commenting about this with the labels (scrumper, MAGA, etc.). Believe what you want but I typically take my time before throwing out presumptions and labels at people. That’s a mental shortcut.

She can do what she wants and believe what she wants. But again she decided to go off on a unprovoked rant with someone who never brought up politics or even alluded to it. Is that a sign of a mentally sound person?

The subject matter isn’t the real issue. It’s the behavior. At best she could find something who thinks exactly like her.

But just for the hell of it, let’s say I’m a so called evil “scrumper”. I’m actually a low key moderate. But is talking to people like that (who did absolutely nothing to provoke you) going to change their minds? Seriously are you going to win over people by insulting them? What if they are the fence? Do you think treating them that way is convincing of your POV?

[loveslongnails]

I appreciate your attempt at humaneness, but I've been talking to people "like that" for the past 10 years, and I'll tell you this: NO ONE is on the fence anymore. You're either a Scumper (yes, that's a contraction of "scum" and "Trumper") or you are not. I didn't draw that line, it just BECAME that line.

Trump is provably a scummy individual. If you handed someone who had NO idea who he was, his resume, his history of interactions with businesses, state and local governments, and his worst but consistently used comments in FULL context, they could only reasonably conclude that he's detestable. If they can't, they have absolutely no moral compass by how we gauge our behavior.

So if you think that's an insult, it's not. I'm merely identify you as someone who supports scum named Trump... so you're a Scumper. A "maga" is someone who follows Trump as well, a "make American great again" echoer. Ironic, but when was it great the first time? A "magat", just another identifier. They call me "libtard" or Demorat" all the time - what do I care? I consider the source.

No one is being won over by the other side's arguments, especially the right to the left, because facts make no difference to them. None at all. They can't win over liberal thinkers because they have nothing of value to offer. They are just a cult bent on enforcing their own will, which is fascism in a nutshell.

[Asker]

Believe what you want but that approach (and it’d been around for over 10 years now) isn’t going to work at reuniting our country. Simply because nothing is as simple as “so so is the icon of evil and must be stopped at any cost”.

Yes our current president has a personality that we have never observed in the history of our nation. Don’t disagree with that. I was completely disgusted with what he said about Rob Reiner the other day and have been calling out anybody who remotely defended that. That was gross.

But personality is NOT the same as POLICY. How can you convince me to vote democrat when they hate guys like me (a straight white male who leans traditional) JUST for existing? There is a whole long list of things I hate about “woke politics”’ not only because it’s hurts my livelihood. But also because most of the people I’ve seen who were supposed to benefit from this culture shift have seemingly only gotten more radical, demanding and miserable. Namely white leftist women. They are never satisfied when they get what they “say” they want.

Anyway I am expecting a long rant about Trump in response. If it makes you feel good to go off on him then knock yourself out.

But understand I have heard so much incessant rage, rambling and derangement about Trump that I’ve literally grown tone deaf over it. It doesn’t change my mindset when I hear the same thing over and over and over again from the left. Especially when they mix in “identity” politics about race and gender.

[loveslongnails]

The fact that you've become "tone deaf" to the shit being done WAS and IS exactly their plan. They even TOLD you this was their plan. "Shock and awe, flood the playing field". They TOLD you this. Every day is some new bullshit distraction worse than the last day. No long rant about Trump... he's their puppet. So is Vance, and he's next in line.

What you fail to realize is this here: ~~~> "How can you convince me to vote democrat when they hate guys like me (a straight white male who leans traditional) JUST for existing? " LOL They don't "hate" guys like you, they ARE guys like you. You think because there's an AOC or Ilhan Omar that the world is falling apart? Give me a break, dude.

The ONLY thing they are saying that's hugely different is " Gays and queers are humans too, and they have the same rights you do". They're saying this to your conservative community -- white guys like you. But what YOU guys are saying back is " Fuck no, you're not human, you have no rights. You're queer sinners, and my book here says I have permission to wipe you out"

Your mindset should be changing based on what the right-wing is espousing, without the left saying a damn word! At this point, if it isn't, nothing's going to change it and THAT'S their plan. You're just worn down. And for the love of God, will you PLEASE learn what "woke" really means and use it when it makes sense! Geeeez!!

[DonaldDarko]

If she started talking communist shit I'd react like you did, that's fucking disgusting.

[Asker]

No provocation. I never said a word about politics. None of our earlier conversations even alluded to politics. Just came out of nowhere.

And thing is it really even about politics. It’s about PSYCHOSIS. If she started ranting about politics I even agreed with it still would give me pause. Reason being is sane people don’t go off on inconsequential topics with acquaintances they barely know.

Funny how she accused me of being “possibly prejudiced” when in reality she’s the one who likely made prejudice assumptions about me JUST because I am straight white American male.

[DonaldDarko]

Her Marxist professor probably saw she was a little off and would be easy to brain wash. I've seen videos of them admitting that they use the mentally ill.

[Asker]

Yes. But again it’s not even about politics. It’s about derangement. Going off about politics feels like a “just cause” for a lot of people.

But look at the context. No provocation. No previous conversation even alluding to politics. Nada.

And again I wouldn’t be okay if she did this about far right politics despite the fact I’m a moderate conservative. Reason being the subject matter is the issue. Is the fact that most people find third very abnormal (and obnoxious) to behave this way with an acquaintance.

But again its (unfortunately) a bad sign she’s also not interested. If she was then she would think twice about risking turning me off.

[DonaldDarko]

Of course, she's nuts. The fact she's raving about politics means someone probably put that in her head. I worked with a guy that talked woke like that. Years of drug rehab, seeing psychiatrists etc. They filled his empty head up with it. Religion is another one you'll see disturbed people ranting about.

[exitseven]

When I am feeling ambitious I would engage her in a debate and make her look foolish. When i am not so inclined I will just nod while picturing what she looks like naked.

[NaultD]

Can you cooperate with this person? Better we can the better lives we can have together. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. Not a big deal.

[Asker]

I used to try that approach years ago. In fact I actually liked the (reasonable) challenge of that. In fact I dated someone years ago who was a moderate liberal and I am moderate conservative. We debated issues but didn’t take it as “threats” like many people do nowadays.

But I noticed that in the last 5 - 10 years particularly young women have gone absolutely berserk over this.

[DrPepper12]

That foul arrogant bitch!! How DARE SHE have her own opinions about life!!! She really dodged a bullet there!!

[Asker]

Right right. It’s completely sane and normal to go on unprovoked deranged rants about completely inconsequential subject matters with acquaintances. Totally normal to do that when they never mentioned a word about politics nor even remotely alluded to it.

I mean it couldn’t “prejudice” or anything that she made all these assumptions about me just becuase I happen to be straight white male who never said a word about politics. But somehow someway I must be the problem.

But I get. I get it. This is an order of faith for you people. A former of evangelism to act this way or something. Your very life existence is tied to it. Nothing else matters.

[Anonymous]

Slowly start backing away and looking for an exit.😆

[blackeagle007]

If she’s anti maga, I’d dig her!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Are you a Trumpster, boy-o?

[Hellraiser1984]

I say goodbye.