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If he did it and destroyed her, people would question why he would beat up on a girl. If he lost, he'd be ridiculed for losing to a girl. It was a loss for him either way. I'm not sure it's either chivalry or chauvinism because he didn't want to deal with the backlash. I wouldn't do it either. Odds are he would've won because males are genetically stronger pound for pound in comparison to females.
This kid is old school. I support his stand against the unisex madness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6k4KgUZqQNot that girls don't have their place in wrestling:
It is what man does.
A man doesn't battle or compete against women.
Men are the dominant physical gender.
Male and female athletics should always be separated.
Men have (maybe slightly more? I don't know!) more dense and tight muscle fibers in their body than women. Men (especially in prehistoric times) protected the clan and killed dinner. Women tended to the babies and raised them.
Source:
1. Science and Biology.
2. My life (but more of number 1).
@SueAnon84 Haha thanks for the citation <3
But its just so obvious! Men are designed to protect women from other men
They aren't designed to compete against women. They are designed to compliment women.
you won't let a tractor compete against a horse. it makes no sense. it's just dumb and therefore sensible to refuse that competition.
Because that guy can't win anyway. Either he wins and then people will not like him cause he beat a woman and even if he loses he won't win, cause he'll be called a pussy or weakling. There's nothing to be gained for him.
If he had accepted and fucked her up, the same media would cry because he dared hit and beat a woman.
they need to stop trying to appease the liberal media,
@NatalieKeller95 "Liberal Media" what does that had to do with this?
Exactly, it’s a no win situation for him anyway.
But then again, she challenged him so maybe he should take the fight but be upfront about that his going all in.
The poor girl would land on her face faster than you can say “equality”
I think that from a professional standpoint, it shouldn't matter to him who his opponent is and what they look like.
But I get that from a personal standpoint, he has his own beliefs. If he wants to forfeit, he has the right to.
Uhm, he’s just not a sissy and wishes an equal fight.
In my first two weeks in an mma class i pretty easily handled girls who had been training for years. It’s not even a fair comparison.
It's a lose/lose either way.
You're either beating up a girl or getting beaten by a girl.
so true
That's a matter of personal judgment. If you feel like you would end up doing things to her that you will regret, whether it's that you're afraid you'll hurt her physically or end up accidentally touching her in inappropriate places, or maybe lose against her big time... Then you should probably just opt out. Otherwise, game on
"appropriate places" that's the point
It doesn't matter what OTHER people think he is.
He did what HE felt was right. We need more people like that who aren't afraid to be themselves and not follow the crowds like MGTOW or feminist groups.
You don't need a group to validate your beliefs.
I will just say this. I played football in high school and one of the teams we played had a girl on it. When my team played that team it always fucked with everyone because they were afraid they would hurt her and it messed with our heads.
It wasn't until years later when I really thought about it that I realized how selfish it was of that girl to put all of those guys in that position. I have no respect for girls like that, or their parents.
If it was for religious and personal reasons than she shouldn't be offended and neither should any other girl
She should not be offended anyway. He forfeited a match. Big deal! There's no reason to act like a pussy and try to get offended by it.
True.
How dare he not want to beat the fuck out of a lady, sexist racist Nazi. Satire aside I agree with him, boys should wrestle boys and girls should wrestle girls.
It benefited the girl, therefore it's chivalry. If it didn't, it would be chauvinism.
You're supposed to treat women as special when it benefits them, and as true equals when it benefits them.
This
Spot on.
Why did he even join the tournament if the rules allowed boys and girls to fight each other? Sounds more like lack of research and preparedness than either of the other options.
If he wins, he will catch hell because it was a girl. If he loses, he will catch hell because it was a girl. If she wins, it will be seen as a triumph. If she loses, then there's no skin off of her back at all. I won't to know how domestic violence will be perceived once gender barriers are broken in MMA, boxing and all other combat sports. Will women still be looked at as victims? Will men feel more emboldened to hit, punch or beat women if they feel threatened?
This is a debate? Seems pointless to me. And since when did females and males wrestle each other in tournaments?
I really appreciate that at least someone has a reasonable opinion on the matter. How the hell is his decision anyone's business? People need to learn to mind their own.
Exactly. People are just finding anything to argue about n
He is very chauvinist and trying to use religion as a excuse when I was in school we had a girl who wanted to play football and everyone made fun of her and I practice drills with her and I didn't look at it because she was a female
Its an act of principle than anything even I dont agree with his principles. Lol she tried to trick him into making certain statements but she was totally barking up the wrong tree lmao.
Wrestlers like Nia Jax and Becky Lynch have competed against Male wrestlers.
Nia Jax enteted the Mens Royal Rumble
Becky went against King Corbyn
Chivalry. Men are bigger and stronger. Chances are, he would've destroyed her. He was protecting her by refusing to hurt her just like a real man should.
Why do the media always have to pick apart everything. Just let him makes his own decisions without being judged 🤷
I think that this is a fairly straight-forward situation. Given it is a decision that he made, he is the only one that can answer that question. If he says he did it to be chivalrous, then you have your answer.
That is all.
gotta love the "reporter" trying to bait the young man. And why attack his religious convictions? Last I heard, we still protect the freedom of religion in this country. Oh right... he's Christian. Can't support that.
Well I understand what all u fellas are saying... sorry for some but i think he did a respectful thing regardless what others say good for him👏
Who cares what it was? It was his choice. Men and women should not be competing against each other anyways.
I agree 💯
Well who knows what his reasons were. For all we know it could be something like "he's afraid if touching her without her consent". Our society is stupid for even thinking a guy and a girl should wrestle against each other
Making a high school guy wrestle a potentially hot girl while they both wear skin tight clothing in front of all their peers is cruel and unusual.
I think it's stupid. If you truly believe in equal rights then you should do your best regardless of the gender of your opponent.
😂 I have wrestled and grappled with girls before, and no matter how many years they have trained i always have the strength advantage in the same weight class. Which means i can easily overpower them and if i gave it my all they would be ragdolled around the mat.
Sorry man, I’m just not into “assault”.
They wouldn’t learn much from it either other than taking a beating.
You're not supposed to kill 'em. It's just wrestling. All you have to do is pin them or push them out of the ring.
What’s the point when you don’t even break a sweat from it? Then it would just be a way of pleasing her own ego.
That's pretty much the point. It's just another match.
If this was in a swimming pool of Jello then have at it!
Boys should wrestle boys and girls should wrestle girls!
He should have wrestled her, i think they are in a similar weight class. It wouldn't make sense if they're not about same weight.
I believe the Female Wrestler deserves the explanation why
the Male Wrestler doesn't want to Wrestle her. It's not fair
to leave her in mayhem just makes no sense.
It's just stupid lol. He lost his change to win for nothing. If she got that far she can hold her own. No need to coddle her
he wasn't coddling her. He was uncomfortable touching her in the way wrestling requires. Look at the interview.
Chivalry anyone that says different isn't in MMA or wrestling. It pisses me of people commenting about men and women competing in combat sports that don't do it themselves. They have no idea
I actually do
Amateur wresting is a lot different than MMA. I'm just saying.
@MoscowMitch it's still a contact sport
It’s a lose-lose situation. Smart man for not doing this.
Who cares? 🙄
You all are just looking a reason to throw shit at people for doing something outside the norm.
"Was this an act of chivalry or CHAUVINISM?
Neither it's a act of Stupidity no Religion forces you to be anti Woman if they do you dismiss it
There’s nothing “anti-women” about this. It was personal conviction over his moral compass. He didn’t trash her, her skills, or anything.
If he was brought up to never raise a violent hand towards a woman then it’s not chauvinism to go against the raise you were raised as well as you personal morals would be hard and then criticize for it is terrible
Why is this a debate?
I guess you could call it chivalry. I wouldn't do it either BCS it would be fair due to physical difference and I doubt I could bring myself to fight a woman BCS men aren't supposed to do that
The reason there is a male and female league is simply out of fairness.
Biologically men have a greater combative fitness potential than women do and the risk for a woman getting hurt is greater than the man getting hurt.
Who care what people think. I think that she was going to beat his ass and would be embarrassed by getting beat by a girl.
@humanearth Yeah. I think she could have taken him, and I would have cheered her on, if she was actually better, more skilled, and beat him fairly, in the weight class! Do so many still have that hidden 'sexism' that "a guy being beaten by a 'girl' is somehow humiliating?"
It should really be about the opponent, and who uses the better techniques, and I don't know all the details of wrestling, but it is much more than just 'rolling around on a mat'! There is some strategy and skill involved.
From that perspective, shouldn't she be angry that he just bows out, rather than maybe take the chance that she is better? What does that say about sports, and women's equality? What about her chance to prove that she is really good, and being able to compete, and move on, and maybe to the Olympics, or at least state, nation and maybe International Competition?
Maybe some don't want to take the chance that women can show that they can do so many things men can do, and some even better? I wonder, with that, who the 'loser' really is?
There is nothing wrong with being defeated by a superior more skilled opponent, but when the guy just, well, surrenders before, I guess we won't really know, right?
I'd say neither. It's an act of pride. No point in fighting a fight he knows he'll win. He's an athlete, not a partaker in senseless violence.
Normally in sports the women battle within their own sex and men do the same. Why should it be necessary that in wrestling it's different?
Wrestling with the opposite sex is just called "sex".
Not enough women for their own divisions. She should move to Jiu Jitsu where there are lots of women for competitions.
Did you miss the joke or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
Chivalry. a lot of guys would consider it indecent and umfair
Better to be shunned for not wanting to fight a woman than to be in prison for fighting a woman
It's neither chivalrous or chauvinist. "Religious belief" wins out, and that's all he needs to point to. No further explanation necessary.
It’s his choice if he doesn’t want to. I don’t really care why
I don't think he did what he did in a disrespect manner. I think he did the right thing by following his convictions and not worrying about what these ding dongs will see him as.
Men should wrestle men and women should wrestle women. No ifs, no buts.
Simples...
Yup...
It's a fact that the old traditions getting in the way of progress.
wrestling with the opposite gender is called progress?
Sure, that's exactly what I said. Lol
I don't know if it was chauvinism but it sure as hell wasn't chivalry. What the fuck? She's a wrestler, fighting is her job.
Just can't please anybody can you
you're wrong if you hit a woman
now you're wrong if you don't lol
Well I mean if he started knocking her around would people prefer that instead? No he said no because he disagrees with harming a woman he was just being a gentlemen
Well you girls downvoting me are the first to call me scum for hitting a woman
"Well you girls downvoting me are the first to call me scum for hitting a woman" I agree.
@Shezadi iv never hit a woman -facepalm-
OK let me correct that statement well you girls downvoting me are the first to call men scum for hitting a woman
lol I like the rephrasing, and I was agreeing with you.
In my opinion, that's sexist. She probably could've kicked his ass.
He should never have been put in this situation. He made the right call, in my opinion.
Chivalry. Men and women compete in separate venues for a reason.
It was an act of chivalry obviously. Most men wouldn't fight a woman. If he did and won, he would be seen as violent and barbaric. If he did and lost, he would be seen as a loser and a wimp. And in both cases, she wins he loses
I’m all for equality, but I’d be terrified that I could be accused of inappropriately touching her in certain circumstances.
This man should receive Knight Hood personal opinion
It's not going to look good for him either way. This is a shitty situation for this guy.