Does every sport really need to be separated by gender?

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It’s obvious why sports like wrestling and football are separated. But I find it strange that sports like skateboarding is gender separated. And does gender really make a difference in non contact sports like baseball or golf? Female athletes are still strong. They still got muscle. Any man could beat me but that’s because I’m not an athlete. If I had muscles and training then I could whoop men too.

The most mind blowing one is curling. Why oh why is curling gender separated?

Hannahm67 · Accepted Answer

The truth is that anything that involves strength, speed and even dexterity it doesn't matter how good a women is at it there is always going to be a man better. It sucks but its because men evolved to be able to protect and provide for women and women evolved to have and rise kids. I don't know much about skateboarding but look at snowboarding and compare the tricks that males and females do its not even close. Then there is baseball and golf which the males hit the balls farther and run around the bases faster.
So my father was a amateur MMA fighter and he wanted to teach my two older brothers how to do it but they didn't want to but I wanted to so he taught me to fight since I was like 12. I only do it for fun and exercise. I am 5ft 9 and very strong for a women and I thought I was really good and could take on men but never tried it. I had a wake up call when I brought a guy friend that is roughly the same size I am but he never exercised at to come to my gym and I would show him some stuff. After about 30 min of me showing him the basics I told him to try to fight me the best he could and I thought I would be able to dodge/block his blows and no problem because I can for all the other women I practice with. I was ready but his strikes were faster than anything I had experienced and one got me and it felt like I got hit by a truck and I am used to being hit by women. I stood no chance verse him.

But you wanted non contact sports so what about power lifting where men are lifting over 1000 pounds and women max out at like 500. Or soccer is non really contact the last women world cup wining team lost to a high school JV team in practice. Or sprinting and swiming. But there are also sports like chess that are mental there are reason that most chess pros are men and its because of biology women are more likely to be right in the middle of intelligence while men have a lot more outliers so there are more dumb men but also more male geniuses.

It sucks but without male and female sports there would be no female sports players because they would stand no chance of winning.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Okay so here's my take on this, it'll be very cliché based:
What games do most little boys play? Sports, video games, fight.
What games do most little girls play?
Cooking, dancing, playing the mom.
Now in their teenage years when guys gain muscles what do girls gain? Weight in their boobs and periods every month with hormones that f them up with it.
What do girls also get thanks to media? Realising that they're not good enough so there comes eating disorders making some anorexic and so very weak whilst others try to gain weight to get those fancy curves.
Guys get more competitive through that time because that's what they are told to be.
Now all I've said is the recap of a VERY stereotypical world, this does not apply to everyone on this earth obviously.
However, if you take a guy and a girl who lived through this cliché life stories, how do you expect them to straight out of teen years or in those even to have equal strength in all sports. This question of equality in sports wasn't asked early enough.
By this take I'll just like to point out that it's not just biological but also society to blame for this difference of competition and strenght.
Now to the guys saying they could beat any and every girl with no training whatsover, fuck you.

Thomas__Shelby · Accepted Answer

“If I had muscles and training then I could whoop men too”

You’re mistaken. Muscles don’t equal ability to fight.
Training doesn’t equal ability to fight. It’s the will. Ever heard of something called testosterone?

Well I’ll tell you something. Testosterone make a man aggressive. Really aggressive.

So much so that when faced against a woman of formidable strength and training, he could take her down easily, with much violence.

Another thing, women don’t produce large surpluses of testosterone the way men do. They don’t build muscle as efficiently as men, and their body is naturally less suited to certain physical demands.

Many, many female athletes (depending on the sport) take testosterone or other forms of steroids. Doing so gives them a chance at actually bulking up. You see powerlifters do this, and even MMA fighters.

Men naturally have a physiological advantage over women when it comes to kinesthetics in every way possible (except for flexibility, but that’s a different issue).

A woman my need to spend months or even years to get to the same muscle mass as a man who’s never trained a day in his life. That’s the truth. Granted there are plenty of “men” that have been dealt the more “feminine” card, but that’s only a portion of the male population.

Bananaman177 · Accepted Answer

Even Chess is separated by gender.

Men dominate all sports, all games, all contests.

If a man wanted to dominate a quilting contest, or knitting, or whatever girly thing that you think women rule at, cooking, typing, whatever. A man would CRUSH all. Even cleaning. When a woman can't shampoo her own carpets and she calls a professional, what gender is he? Exactly. Women are supposed to be good cooks, yeah well turn on the television, who's getting paid to teach all you women how to cook? Gordon Ramsay. Bobby Flay. Guy Fieri. All guys. Who gets paid to EAT food? Anthony Bourdain. Andrew Zimmern. That one hamburger guy. ALL MEN.

We men just have the Faustian Spirit, it makes us all fundamentally unconquerable. I don't know what kind of "spirit" women are animated by, if any. But I would definitely say it ain't too Faustian.

Does every sport really need to be separated by gender?

dangerDoge · Answer

My general viewpoint is that if there is a gender difference that gives one side an innate advantage more than your standard, there is reason to separate. For curling, I looked it up and came to the conclusion that I don't know enough about the sport to say for certain, but it seems like there is reason to keep it separate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/in-olympic-curling-men-and-women-are-not-created-equal/2018/02/06/af74bf5e-0b37-11e8-8890-372e2047c935_story.html

If something is truly technique based and has no biological 'class' difference, I agree with you-- it makes sense to have it co-ed. Regarding the "And does gender really make a difference in non contact sports like baseball or golf?" I think it matters still to an extent, because it could still be a physical advantage. Sure, women can be plenty strong and in many cases be stronger than men, but men on a fundamental level have a biological advantage in things like gaining muscle, having larger frames for the muscle, testosterone, etc.. (I.e. Something like weightlifting, albeit non-contact, has substantial difference between male/females https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_records_in_weightlifting )

Especially in a professional-level sport, making things co-ed for many sports would leave a field where it's very-male dominated with a smattering of women here and there. Personally, I find it much more enjoyable to have a separate playing field in that case, where we see the peak of each gender.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

Because far too many sniveling cowards who want to beat up those not strong enough to fight back use gender-inclusive BS in sports so they can commit assault and battery, get a hard boner from doing do, not go to prison for it, and have media sociopaths praise them as "brave" for it too! While making the victim foot the entire hospital bill! Some "bravery " that takes!
Then, they label you "phobic" for wanting to hold them accountable, and send goons from Europe to harass you on Instagram. And if you ask on Facebook why the "brave" one didn't pay a cent for the hospital bill, you get Zuck gulaged for 30 days for "hate speech"!

We aren't falling for the con games anymore. There's a backlash coming, and the slimeballs behind the games going on right now are going to find a vengeful man with his harmed daughter in his mind, waiting for then behind every blade of grass with a shotgun in tow. Call it a boogaloo, if you will.

Trolloween · Answer

Because women just aren't as good. It's not just physical strength, men seem to be better at spacial awareness and so forth. For example is there any reason you never see professional snooker players? No strength required yet there are no top level women. I am sure there are many great women snooker players but just not good enough to get on the combined leader board. Women can train and be better than some men but men just always have an advantage in many areas. For example an average man can throw a ball further than I think 80-90% of women. So a woman needs to train hard just to become mediocre average and her peak is going to be below a man's

VIVANT · Answer

I think endurance sports could be shared. Women have optimal endurance potential Allowing them a more constant consistent longer stretch of exertion, Bc of the fat storage. Men have advantage in short sustained hard bursts of energy. Probably sharing raw muscle power based sports, Would not be reasonable.

but I don't know it’s hard to say. A person doesn't need to ha e the same physique to be better. Skill accounts for so much. Look at marry so artists.. . Often they are quite shall but is urs full of power and technique. Women and men. And in cases the small agility is benefit.

Bee-Hatch · Answer

Well yeah, men are built physically stronger than us. It gives a natural advantage that no amount of feminist theory can overcome. We aren't the same. Now in your question you're cherry picking sports to support your case, and not always good choices. Golf for example women can't drive as far as men. Why is curling separated by gender? Again men can put more power into the stones if they're going to strike out the stones of opposing teams.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but we aren't equal physically.

ZackBan · Answer

Every sport requires strength else it's not a sport.
They are not shared because it just wouldn't be fair. If women and men are participating in any sport the number of contestants will have to be split between them else the league will be called sexist. That would mean leaving out men who are easily stronger than some women who made it. And if the selection is purely based on skills I garantes you no woman would make the cut. Most men even dont. So women having their own leagues in all sports actually works in their favor that way they can shine and compete to be the best.
And before I get attacked and called sexist just pick any sports you like. Now go dig up the athlete who is ranked last in the pro league of that sports. Now try and find 10 women who are definitely stronger. I assure you you won't. Maybe there is one or two but it's simply biology that men have more physical ability and are generally taller with wider reach and bigger steps.

rjroy3 · Answer

Every year tests our done that prove and reprove again the advantage men have in sports, even when non contact and accounting for same weight. Unless it's a sport like shooting to where there is not a physical element to any serious degree. Men will have an unfair advantage at the same skill level. Even golf.

Wasn't that long ago when a high school boys soccer team, beat the US women's soccer team. The highschoolers were not even national level athletes and men by and large don't stop developing till near 25

mistixs · Answer

"If I had muscles and training then I could whoop men too." Actually, trained female athletes are still weaker than untrained men. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7253873/

Sexual dimorphism exists. Just like women have more developed breast tissue, men have more developed muscle mass.

genericname85 · Answer

yup. or else men will shit all over women in the majority of sport as we see with all those transgenders wiping the floor with women in female sports. that's just how it is. yeah sure in sports like archery and darts, it doesn't make sense but in everything that needs strength, there must be separation or else it's unfair.

one very rational and unbiased way is to just look at testosterone levels. testosterone rises your performance. people use it for doping. men have so much of it naturally, a woman would need obvious doping to get to that level.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

Curling? Barbell curls? Because I'll beat you.

But I bet you might get me on scrabble. We used to cherish each other for what were good for... and I have pain seeing this conflict of trying to delegitimize opposition... see what social Marxism has done to unity?

Anonymous · Answer

Its easy as hell to sit there and say "if I trained hard and ate right I could beat the shit out of them". We call that being an armchair quarterback. Losers do it constantly.

But face it: there's even a separate women's professional billiards league. They made it out of necessity because even a sport that relies purely on skill and focus is dominated by men. Even women who've been playing all their lives can't compete with the top 10% of men.

Saying it is too easy. Why haven't you proven it to the world yet?

purplepoppy · Answer

I'd agree. Look at any golfer and they're not muscle bound, it's more about technique. Look at any marathon, hundreds of men get beaten by women each race and nobody bats an eye. At a professional level I think would be hard to compete in many sports but at an amateur level where there's more over lap in physical ability it should be possible. Another possibility is to adapt sports so both can compete, tag rugby is a good example.

pajamasam · Answer

Yes... and no... women and men do legitimately have different anaotmies. In some sports those differences can make a big enough difference that it would not be a fair contest to men or to women.

However I feel some sports can easily make room for boys and girls to play together.

mattdzz · Answer

There are some sports that could be coed, especially the non-contact ones, but men are faster, stronger, and have more endurance than women; so, if we didn't have a separate sports league for women then there wouldn't be any woman Olympic medalists, world champs, etc.
Swimming, running, lifting, just about anything in track (especially jumping in every way)... Really, women would be shutout, which is why many don't want transgenders in women sports.

lightbulb27 · Answer

agree, some not... bowling, chess, mud wrestling, snow jumping, motocross, things where there is qualifying time.

We should have a GAG "Decathalon"... what would be the sports?
A round of golf (skill), a round of chess (smarts), juggling (multi tasking), endurance (20 mile bike, 2 mile run, followed by a math test)... something like that.

sounds like fun:)

Catlover1999 · Answer

Yes because whilst men & women are treated as equals in most social situations and employment. When it comes to sport they each have their advantages. For example men produce way more testosterone than women, therefore have an advantage when it comes to physical activities.

Stoner710 · Answer

Physical yes it make since it were talking something like shuffle board yes baseball is more of speed of pitching the max women 69 MPH which most amateur guys can hit my max is 80 at 16 ( I mist a year so I stopped playing I have not idea what I can do now maybe 50)

i know the rules of golf but once again I think that’s biased on how far women can hit the ball,

Gaming yes women can match men Pokeman is just as good as ninja but she doesn’t get recognition like ninja or tfue

nathanp97 · Answer

Men have more strength, which gives them an advantage in skateboarding, baseball and golf. Women in professional golf tea off closer that the guys do, they can't hit the ball as hard in golf and baseball, or run as fast. Strength is important for some tricks in skateboarding.

BeanieCoatman · Answer

What do you mean gender seperated?
Whoever told you skateboarding was gender seperated?
Give me an example of gender seperated skateboarding...

Because i have seen a few females skateboarders in videos, and 1 in real life,
Just because they aren't common doesn’t mean its gender seperated, it jus means less girls wanna skate than guys

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Some women seem to not know what they want.
First, they shout for ladies-only parking and similar stuff.
Next they feel excluded from activities.
Make up your mind, guys :D
As for sports: it is not necessary - but does it hurt?
True: women-only sports are unfair towards men, because it's not our fault or choice to be men.
Personally, though: I don't mind that I cannot participate i. e. in the paralympics or playing in the women's football league.

Phoenix98 · Answer

Yes they do, because the difference between men and women's physical capabilities is just that big.

Obviously there are some sports were you don't have to because it's reliant on skill and not physical capability like horse back riding or shooting. But when it comes to physical sports using their own bodies yes it does need to be separated.

archiz · Answer

We got to accept that men and women are built differently. Both our minds and body work differently...
Females really can't build much muscle mass as much as guys. Hence guys will always be physically superior than females.
Like females can only give birth🤷🏿‍♀️

Anonymous · Answer

I suppose it’s because men and women’s body’s are different? No matter how much a woman works out she’s not going to be stronger than a man who does too. It’s just not possible. 😔 So it would be unfair to pit a woman against a man due to not being able to have that strength. But with skateboarding or something I have no idea. That just seems dumb.

MannMitAntworten · Answer

Curling... that’s a good question. I suppose there is no reason for it not to be merely coed. As for skating and whatnot of the similar ilk, also a good question. I mean I suppose a guy could catch “bigger air”, but times competitions and strength versus strength aside, you have a legitimate question. Perhaps pose it to the IOC and see what kind of feedback you get in return. It’s a good as start as any where athletics is concerned at least.

CasaNorba · Answer

skateboarding is gender-separated? weird I thought it wouldn't be since Elissa Steamer has been in most of the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games.

anyways I think they remain this way because is they unite both genders then women are gonna whine and complain more than ever when they get continuously beaten by men since testosterone does make a huge difference

hellacray · Answer

Umm yeah... Cause men will always have a slight advantage in sports cause they have more muscle and are in general built stronger.

Now if you count darts and billiards as sports then those I think should be mixed. Reason being they don't require a whole lot of strength, they're more focused on accuracy and finesse.

And actually if I remember correctly I think archery does have mixed teams.

Ttam69 · Answer

Any sport with physicality involved has to be separated to make it fair for both men and women. Even in golf and baseball, men hit harder and further on average. In terms of sports like darts and snooker those don't have to be separated, but due to societal influence and long term separation of gender the standard is so distinct it will still take years before men and women can compete on an equal standing.

Liam_Hayden · Answer

Baseball and golf are both poor examples because driving strength in golf and throwing strength, swing strength, and speed matter greatly in baseball, and biologically at the elite level men are stronger and faster.

Sports that do not rely upon those things probably should not be separated.

DashboardLight · Answer

Sports like darts, archery, and chess that don't require being athletic physically, those can be combined. But guys usually have the advantage of being physically more athletic in general than women, though with gymnastics I think women tend to have a little bit of an advantage.

Lynx122 · Answer

Yes because men don't just have an edge in strength but also in competitiveness. There's many games that don't require strength but men are still better, chess, pro gaming, anything you can think of.

Thejaywalker7865 · Answer

Hmm, well... Aren't girls scores sometimes lower then the guys scores, in sports.. like.. think about it... if women's and men's scores were combined to make one score board, a lot of the time, a guy would be first place... I could be wrong

Darcia · Answer

Some sports like bowling are divided by gender teams. Girls 1 & 2 and Boys 1 & 2 in a high school setting. But in most professional leagues may have coed teams which makes it more fun and enjoyable.

Xyline789 · Answer

I suppose if you say "every" then no but most sports should be separated. More specifically by biological sex. Men are even better at chess but there are a lot of women really good or at least could be good at chess. It's only at the very top where the separation is. So I think non contact sports should still be separated. Unless you want almost no women in the top rankings of the sport, then you can merge them.

lacaras · Answer

I think most sports yes, men are just more physically capable which puts them at a huge advantage over women in almost all sports. Even baseball men have an advantage because they are faster. Golf and curling maybe you have a point, but I don't know much about either sport, so maybe there is a good reason, I don't know.

Randomawkwardness · Answer

I mean, men and women do have different bodies. It would be like having an apple and orange compete - you can't. There has to be a basic level to compare them to and you can't do that if they're different.

Mustachekitteh · Answer

I don't know enough about all sports to really give an answer for that.

Though with a good bit of them sadly you do because we are built differently. Men are physically stronger than women, on average and there is no shame in that.

schuman · Answer

watch the xgames. men jump higher and do more tricks.
womem athletes are strong, but only when compared to the average male. Male athletes are are just better and it shows in every single Olympic record or any record for that matter. males hold more impressive results

David_Kek · Answer

Few years ago a professional woman's basketball team went up against a boy college basketball team, and said teenagers kicked the shit out of them.
Sports is gender segregated because if it wasn't, women wouldn't win anything.

Bruhmmett · Answer

I think that every sport should be separated by gender for specific events, but also that they should have an equally supported non gender specifying event for those who want to see how different people of different genders stack up against each other.

OfDeath · Answer

Probably not all non contact sports. But some do have to be. Like tennis for example. The men play at a much higher intensity than the women. Even Serena Williams couldn't beat anyone in the men's top 200

Anonymous · Answer

No, there is no need to separate any sport by gender. I usually always train with the boys because the training is
is more effective, demanding and thougher. I have never done this women's variant of pushups. Where's the problem with doing the normal pushups? And I do a lot of fullcontact sports.

Neko911 · Answer

Yeah of course. Women and men are not equal when it comes to strength and thinhs involving being physical

Artesian · Answer

Take a look at the top chess player and the men's and women's scores. There's a reason why there are two classes.

bente2 · Answer

I think it totally depends on the sport. Men still tend to be physically stronger so a sport that really relies on that wouldn’t really work.

DWornock · Answer

In most sports. However, there may be a few exceptions such as horse jumping and rifle shooting where strength and muscle mass is not much of a factor.

backinblack22 · Answer

The sports that “trans” women want to compete should not be separated by gender. Let’s see if they stay in it when their cheating edge is gone.

FakeName123 · Answer

Most sports allow women in the mens side, but not vice versa. Yet, you NEVER see women taking that chance. You really think that if the women were competitive, they would not take that chance?

DiscomfortZone · Answer

Any sport that is physical needs to be separated. Since the abundance of scientific biological and physiological evidence is well known to all - I'll just say that it annoys feminazis, and anything that annoys that filth is fine by me!

Deathraider · Answer

Technically not all sports, E-Sports for example is open for everyone. Technically chess is a sport, as considered by the International Olympics committee.

So not all sports need to be separated by gender.

NineBreaker · Answer

Of course, because if that happens, almost no women will qualify for most professional sports.

Miristheiss · Answer

Probably not. It helps women though. More teams doubles the number that can play. More girls can play on sports teams.

Usernamesrdumb · Answer

Transgenders beat naturally born women, feminists freak out. High school men beat womens pro soccer team. I personally dont care if separated or noy. Just make up your mind and stop complaining when equal opportunity does guarantee equal outcome.

1stranger · Answer

No. Sports are for everyone. No discrimination in sports.

Dargil · Answer

When raw physical exertion is involved, yes and trannys are cheats in those. Others, like archery or riflery no.

Katerina_Belle · Answer

It comes down to the science and physiological differences between a male and female.

soleil2666 · Answer

The moment female physical ability catches up, they don't. So far, the females are yet to demonstrate they can be in the same league, be it because they are lazier, weaker or less able and skilled.

ksaid01 · Answer

Yes... Simply because there was a man that pretend to be a woman and dominated in the woman's league. Long after they find out his true gender

Kinogo · Answer

I think it's cause biologically men are more stronger, not significantly. And women have slightly different body makeup than men.

SamtheDnDgirl · Answer

Funny enough. Wrestling isn't separate until you get to really high levels of competition. The only separation is weight class.

worldscolide · Answer

in any sport where men have a strength and speed advantage id say definitely.. Unfortunately thats most sports.

Does every sport really need to be separated by gender?

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