Does every sport really need to be separated by gender?

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It’s obvious why sports like wrestling and football are separated. But I find it strange that sports like skateboarding is gender separated. And does gender really make a difference in non contact sports like baseball or golf? Female athletes are still strong. They still got muscle. Any man could beat me but that’s because I’m not an athlete. If I had muscles and training then I could whoop men too.

The most mind blowing one is curling. Why oh why is curling gender separated?

Hannahm67 · Accepted Answer

The truth is that anything that involves strength, speed and even dexterity it doesn't matter how good a women is at it there is always going to be a man better. It sucks but its because men evolved to be able to protect and provide for women and women evolved to have and rise kids. I don't know much about skateboarding but look at snowboarding and compare the tricks that males and females do its not even close. Then there is baseball and golf which the males hit the balls farther and run around the bases faster.
So my father was a amateur MMA fighter and he wanted to teach my two older brothers how to do it but they didn't want to but I wanted to so he taught me to fight since I was like 12. I only do it for fun and exercise. I am 5ft 9 and very strong for a women and I thought I was really good and could take on men but never tried it. I had a wake up call when I brought a guy friend that is roughly the same size I am but he never exercised at to come to my gym and I would show him some stuff. After about 30 min of me showing him the basics I told him to try to fight me the best he could and I thought I would be able to dodge/block his blows and no problem because I can for all the other women I practice with. I was ready but his strikes were faster than anything I had experienced and one got me and it felt like I got hit by a truck and I am used to being hit by women. I stood no chance verse him.

But you wanted non contact sports so what about power lifting where men are lifting over 1000 pounds and women max out at like 500. Or soccer is non really contact the last women world cup wining team lost to a high school JV team in practice. Or sprinting and swiming. But there are also sports like chess that are mental there are reason that most chess pros are men and its because of biology women are more likely to be right in the middle of intelligence while men have a lot more outliers so there are more dumb men but also more male geniuses.

It sucks but without male and female sports there would be no female sports players because they would stand no chance of winning.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Okay so here's my take on this, it'll be very cliché based:
What games do most little boys play? Sports, video games, fight.
What games do most little girls play?
Cooking, dancing, playing the mom.
Now in their teenage years when guys gain muscles what do girls gain? Weight in their boobs and periods every month with hormones that f them up with it.
What do girls also get thanks to media? Realising that they're not good enough so there comes eating disorders making some anorexic and so very weak whilst others try to gain weight to get those fancy curves.
Guys get more competitive through that time because that's what they are told to be.
Now all I've said is the recap of a VERY stereotypical world, this does not apply to everyone on this earth obviously.
However, if you take a guy and a girl who lived through this cliché life stories, how do you expect them to straight out of teen years or in those even to have equal strength in all sports. This question of equality in sports wasn't asked early enough.
By this take I'll just like to point out that it's not just biological but also society to blame for this difference of competition and strenght.
Now to the guys saying they could beat any and every girl with no training whatsover, fuck you.

Thomas__Shelby · Accepted Answer

“If I had muscles and training then I could whoop men too”

You’re mistaken. Muscles don’t equal ability to fight.
Training doesn’t equal ability to fight. It’s the will. Ever heard of something called testosterone?

Well I’ll tell you something. Testosterone make a man aggressive. Really aggressive.

So much so that when faced against a woman of formidable strength and training, he could take her down easily, with much violence.

Another thing, women don’t produce large surpluses of testosterone the way men do. They don’t build muscle as efficiently as men, and their body is naturally less suited to certain physical demands.

Many, many female athletes (depending on the sport) take testosterone or other forms of steroids. Doing so gives them a chance at actually bulking up. You see powerlifters do this, and even MMA fighters.

Men naturally have a physiological advantage over women when it comes to kinesthetics in every way possible (except for flexibility, but that’s a different issue).

A woman my need to spend months or even years to get to the same muscle mass as a man who’s never trained a day in his life. That’s the truth. Granted there are plenty of “men” that have been dealt the more “feminine” card, but that’s only a portion of the male population.

Bananaman177 · Accepted Answer

Even Chess is separated by gender.

Men dominate all sports, all games, all contests.

If a man wanted to dominate a quilting contest, or knitting, or whatever girly thing that you think women rule at, cooking, typing, whatever. A man would CRUSH all. Even cleaning. When a woman can't shampoo her own carpets and she calls a professional, what gender is he? Exactly. Women are supposed to be good cooks, yeah well turn on the television, who's getting paid to teach all you women how to cook? Gordon Ramsay. Bobby Flay. Guy Fieri. All guys. Who gets paid to EAT food? Anthony Bourdain. Andrew Zimmern. That one hamburger guy. ALL MEN.

We men just have the Faustian Spirit, it makes us all fundamentally unconquerable. I don't know what kind of "spirit" women are animated by, if any. But I would definitely say it ain't too Faustian.

Does every sport really need to be separated by gender?

dangerDoge · Answer

My general viewpoint is that if there is a gender difference that gives one side an innate advantage more than your standard, there is reason to separate. For curling, I looked it up and came to the conclusion that I don't know enough about the sport to say for certain, but it seems like there is reason to keep it separate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/in-olympic-curling-men-and-women-are-not-created-equal/2018/02/06/af74bf5e-0b37-11e8-8890-372e2047c935_story.html

If something is truly technique based and has no biological 'class' difference, I agree with you-- it makes sense to have it co-ed. Regarding the "And does gender really make a difference in non contact sports like baseball or golf?" I think it matters still to an extent, because it could still be a physical advantage. Sure, women can be plenty strong and in many cases be stronger than men, but men on a fundamental level have a biological advantage in things like gaining muscle, having larger frames for the muscle, testosterone, etc.. (I.e. Something like weightlifting, albeit non-contact, has substantial difference between male/females https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_records_in_weightlifting )

Especially in a professional-level sport, making things co-ed for many sports would leave a field where it's very-male dominated with a smattering of women here and there. Personally, I find it much more enjoyable to have a separate playing field in that case, where we see the peak of each gender.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

Because far too many sniveling cowards who want to beat up those not strong enough to fight back use gender-inclusive BS in sports so they can commit assault and battery, get a hard boner from doing do, not go to prison for it, and have media sociopaths praise them as "brave" for it too! While making the victim foot the entire hospital bill! Some "bravery " that takes!
Then, they label you "phobic" for wanting to hold them accountable, and send goons from Europe to harass you on Instagram. And if you ask on Facebook why the "brave" one didn't pay a cent for the hospital bill, you get Zuck gulaged for 30 days for "hate speech"!

We aren't falling for the con games anymore. There's a backlash coming, and the slimeballs behind the games going on right now are going to find a vengeful man with his harmed daughter in his mind, waiting for then behind every blade of grass with a shotgun in tow. Call it a boogaloo, if you will.

Trolloween · Answer

Because women just aren't as good. It's not just physical strength, men seem to be better at spacial awareness and so forth. For example is there any reason you never see professional snooker players? No strength required yet there are no top level women. I am sure there are many great women snooker players but just not good enough to get on the combined leader board. Women can train and be better than some men but men just always have an advantage in many areas. For example an average man can throw a ball further than I think 80-90% of women. So a woman needs to train hard just to become mediocre average and her peak is going to be below a man's

VIVANT · Answer

I think endurance sports could be shared. Women have optimal endurance potential Allowing them a more constant consistent longer stretch of exertion, Bc of the fat storage. Men have advantage in short sustained hard bursts of energy. Probably sharing raw muscle power based sports, Would not be reasonable.

but I don't know it’s hard to say. A person doesn't need to ha e the same physique to be better. Skill accounts for so much. Look at marry so artists.. . Often they are quite shall but is urs full of power and technique. Women and men. And in cases the small agility is benefit.

Bee-Hatch · Answer

Well yeah, men are built physically stronger than us. It gives a natural advantage that no amount of feminist theory can overcome. We aren't the same. Now in your question you're cherry picking sports to support your case, and not always good choices. Golf for example women can't drive as far as men. Why is curling separated by gender? Again men can put more power into the stones if they're going to strike out the stones of opposing teams.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but we aren't equal physically.

ZackBan · Answer

Every sport requires strength else it's not a sport.
They are not shared because it just wouldn't be fair. If women and men are participating in any sport the number of contestants will have to be split between them else the league will be called sexist. That would mean leaving out men who are easily stronger than some women who made it. And if the selection is purely based on skills I garantes you no woman would make the cut. Most men even dont. So women having their own leagues in all sports actually works in their favor that way they can shine and compete to be the best.
And before I get attacked and called sexist just pick any sports you like. Now go dig up the athlete who is ranked last in the pro league of that sports. Now try and find 10 women who are definitely stronger. I assure you you won't. Maybe there is one or two but it's simply biology that men have more physical ability and are generally taller with wider reach and bigger steps.

rjroy3 · Answer

Every year tests our done that prove and reprove again the advantage men have in sports, even when non contact and accounting for same weight. Unless it's a sport like shooting to where there is not a physical element to any serious degree. Men will have an unfair advantage at the same skill level. Even golf.

Wasn't that long ago when a high school boys soccer team, beat the US women's soccer team. The highschoolers were not even national level athletes and men by and large don't stop developing till near 25

mistixs · Answer

"If I had muscles and training then I could whoop men too." Actually, trained female athletes are still weaker than untrained men. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7253873/

Sexual dimorphism exists. Just like women have more developed breast tissue, men have more developed muscle mass.

genericname85 · Answer

yup. or else men will shit all over women in the majority of sport as we see with all those transgenders wiping the floor with women in female sports. that's just how it is. yeah sure in sports like archery and darts, it doesn't make sense but in everything that needs strength, there must be separation or else it's unfair.

one very rational and unbiased way is to just look at testosterone levels. testosterone rises your performance. people use it for doping. men have so much of it naturally, a woman would need obvious doping to get to that level.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

Curling? Barbell curls? Because I'll beat you.

But I bet you might get me on scrabble. We used to cherish each other for what were good for... and I have pain seeing this conflict of trying to delegitimize opposition... see what social Marxism has done to unity?

Anonymous · Answer

Its easy as hell to sit there and say "if I trained hard and ate right I could beat the shit out of them". We call that being an armchair quarterback. Losers do it constantly.

But face it: there's even a separate women's professional billiards league. They made it out of necessity because even a sport that relies purely on skill and focus is dominated by men. Even women who've been playing all their lives can't compete with the top 10% of men.

Saying it is too easy. Why haven't you proven it to the world yet?

purplepoppy · Answer

I'd agree. Look at any golfer and they're not muscle bound, it's more about technique. Look at any marathon, hundreds of men get beaten by women each race and nobody bats an eye. At a professional level I think would be hard to compete in many sports but at an amateur level where there's more over lap in physical ability it should be possible. Another possibility is to adapt sports so both can compete, tag rugby is a good example.

pajamasam · Answer

Yes... and no... women and men do legitimately have different anaotmies. In some sports those differences can make a big enough difference that it would not be a fair contest to men or to women.

However I feel some sports can easily make room for boys and girls to play together.

mattdzz · Answer

There are some sports that could be coed, especially the non-contact ones, but men are faster, stronger, and have more endurance than women; so, if we didn't have a separate sports league for women then there wouldn't be any woman Olympic medalists, world champs, etc.
Swimming, running, lifting, just about anything in track (especially jumping in every way)... Really, women would be shutout, which is why many don't want transgenders in women sports.

lightbulb27 · Answer

agree, some not... bowling, chess, mud wrestling, snow jumping, motocross, things where there is qualifying time.

We should have a GAG "Decathalon"... what would be the sports?
A round of golf (skill), a round of chess (smarts), juggling (multi tasking), endurance (20 mile bike, 2 mile run, followed by a math test)... something like that.

sounds like fun:)

Catlover1999 · Answer

Yes because whilst men & women are treated as equals in most social situations and employment. When it comes to sport they each have their advantages. For example men produce way more testosterone than women, therefore have an advantage when it comes to physical activities.

Stoner710 · Answer

Physical yes it make since it were talking something like shuffle board yes baseball is more of speed of pitching the max women 69 MPH which most amateur guys can hit my max is 80 at 16 ( I mist a year so I stopped playing I have not idea what I can do now maybe 50)

i know the rules of golf but once again I think that’s biased on how far women can hit the ball,

Gaming yes women can match men Pokeman is just as good as ninja but she doesn’t get recognition like ninja or tfue

nathanp97 · Answer

Men have more strength, which gives them an advantage in skateboarding, baseball and golf. Women in professional golf tea off closer that the guys do, they can't hit the ball as hard in golf and baseball, or run as fast. Strength is important for some tricks in skateboarding.

BeanieCoatman · Answer

What do you mean gender seperated?
Whoever told you skateboarding was gender seperated?
Give me an example of gender seperated skateboarding...

Because i have seen a few females skateboarders in videos, and 1 in real life,
Just because they aren't common doesn’t mean its gender seperated, it jus means less girls wanna skate than guys

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Some women seem to not know what they want.
First, they shout for ladies-only parking and similar stuff.
Next they feel excluded from activities.
Make up your mind, guys :D
As for sports: it is not necessary - but does it hurt?
True: women-only sports are unfair towards men, because it's not our fault or choice to be men.
Personally, though: I don't mind that I cannot participate i. e. in the paralympics or playing in the women's football league.

Does every sport really need to be separated by gender?

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