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Did internet exist before 1990s?

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Are they all different nets such as Usenet, Eternet. No İnter-Net until 1990s?

Did internet exist before 1990s?
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  • MrOracle
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    The first real networking was created at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center), which created most modern computing. Many people visited PARC - notably Bill Gates of Microsoft and Steve Jobs of Apple, but that also includes the guys that founded SUN Microsystems. SUN stands for Stanford University Network, and these were UNIX computers that were networked together at Stanford University. Friends of theirs, who also got inspiration from PARC went onto found a little networking company called Cisco - obviously named after San Francisco, the main "big city" in the area.

    By the early 80s, these small companies had started hooking up university computing departments and big government contractors onto a large network using funding from DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency). As the technology improved over time, more and more users from more universities and big companies were allowed to use the network - companies like Coke and General Motors and Boeing were being connected, but most users really only had access to networked email in those days unless you were a researcher or in the computing or IT department.

    It wasn't until the early 90s that major breakthroughs came that allowed the Internet to be opened up to individuals. I ran a BBS (a Bulletin Board System, which was really just a computer with a couple of phone modems attached that other users could call up and use), and I had a dial-up Internet account in the very early 90s - when most people had never heard of the Internet, and before graphical web browsers even existed - to help move files and emails around the country faster. Eventually, we started trying to use Mosaic - the first graphical browser - in around 92/93, but there were probably less than 500 websites, and 400 of them were university research websites that were all text. But by 93, the web was exploding with lots and lots of new, crude websites going up, and this new browser called Netscape Navigator being far better than Mosaic, which was old and unstable.

    Around that time, the first 28.8 modems were coming out, but even with "all that speed", it would take 10 seconds for a postage-stamp-sized photo to download, and a modern Amazon product page would probably take 7-10 minutes to load with all of the photos and graphics we're used to today. But it seemed like every week, some small thing about the web got better, and more and more features came available, speeds improved, graphics got better, and the web became increasingly useful. This was still LONG before YouTube or most web-based apps, but still, you could make reservations and buy things (though with nearly zero security much of the time).

    Your average, non-computer-geek person didn't get an Internet connection until the late 90s, and even average computer geek people didn't get one until 95-96. There just wasn't enough utility before that for most people to go through the hassle and pay the money. WiFi didn't exist so everything had to be hardwired, and of course, that limited things, as well as the very slow speeds.

    I was the third person in my city to get a cable modem (I was scheduled to be first, but all of the installers in my area had to go to training, and so my install got delayed and they brought in someone from another area), and it was a glorious 1Mb/s down and 128k up if I remember correctly, and that didn't happen until 1998 or 99. For context, I have fiber optic Internet today with 1.3Gb/s in both directions, or roughly 1300 times the download speed compared to what I had back then - and the vast majority of people were still on dialup.

    For context, Google didn't release the Google Search website until September of 1998 - and at that time they were a tiny "running out of a garage" company and were just one of many Internet search companies - so using the Internet before that wasn't useful to most people.

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  • lightbulb27
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    DARPA project I believe was start of it, you should ask Al Gore (joke). By late 1980's it was in university as unix boxes talk to other unix boxes. Soon after came email in 1990s into corp america. Man, that was amazing... to be able to send messages around within a work team! Totally messed with productivity too. Then html showed up, and search engines... speeds increased, and you got the internet as you know it.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      You dont need internet for e-mail.

      There were other nets which were not inter-net. X Net, Y Net.. Lol.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      E-mail existed in 80s already without using internet

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    • lightbulb27
      lightbulb27
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      yes it was some other local net, but was the first taste of networking. I don't recall them at this point. We had ethernet cables. blah... like a million year ago...

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      You mean in 80s?

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      By like a million year ago

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    • lightbulb27
      lightbulb27
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      it seems a million years ago I was doing this work. when I started, we had no email, no network, no internet. floppy disks.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      How about usenet, ethernet?

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      You had none?

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Ahh you said no network. My bad.

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  • BadApple69
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    The internet was created in the 1980s as a military contractor/defense network. Before that there were online bulletin boards (BBS or CBBS) created in the late 1970s that you could dial into with a modem. But of course no one had computers in their homes in those days.

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  • exitseven
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    The Arpanet was the first packet switched networks. It came out in 1969. It became a real network between the government, Universities and high tech companies. It was the precursor to the internet.

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  • strateguy632
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    No.

    tThe World Wide Web began in 1992 not before. In my 11 grade computer class we did not have http yet!

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  • RavVid
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    ARPANET was the technological foundation late 1960's. Ethernet is the transport layer.. Usenets are groups like GAG

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    • RavVid
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      Incidentally computer hacking was invented at the same time as ARPANET.

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  • jshm2
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    Yes. Even before DARPA there was various blue and black box schemes between various universities and organisations.

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  • Makeushiver
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    It was strictly US Dept. of Defense use until the early '80s ( I believe). It became the world wide web after that

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  • OddBeMe
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    Its tech did and was used by NASA to communicate with the Apollo missions.

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  • Anonymous
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    The military used a form of internet before what we now have. Don't remember what they called it

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  • Red_Arrow
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    Yes, it has been around longer than that.

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    • Vivaldi
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      Are you sure? Were they not called things like usenet, ethernet? Those are not internet.

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    • Red_Arrow
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      Usenet is a worldwide distributed discussion system available on computers. Also used for sharing files (referred to as binaries) that can be downloaded directly from servers.
      Ethernet is a way of connecting computers and other network devices in a physical space. This is often referred to as a local area network or LAN. Nothing like the internet.
      I was on the internet, as well as on a LAN that then connected to the internet.

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    • Vivaldi
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      Usenet is something like internet?

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    • Red_Arrow
      Red_Arrow
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      Ethernet is still around and used by most. But anybody who knows what it is will not confuse internet with it. Usenet is not so clearly different. But it was internet that I was talking about using.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Isn't usenet different than ethernet already?

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Ahhh. Okay. I got it

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  • FunkyMonkee
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    Yes. I first got on in the mid to late `80's.

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  • paledreams
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    Before my time, try google or Wikipedia

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  • jahaims
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    A simple Google search will answer that

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  • legalboxers
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    yes the armed forces had something

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  • bellissimoe
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    Yeahh baby

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Weren't they all called different nets until 1990s such as Usenet, Eternet?

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Oh no, absolutely not. Oh my god, I love Arab men with beards and serious looks and masculine looks.💖💖🥹🥹🥹🥹

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I am not Arab

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Turkey is not an Arabic Country. We don't speak Arabic.

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Oh I'm sorry. You look just like an Arab. You're really attractive.

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Yes, I know, I'm sorry. I know that Turkey is not an Arab country, but I thought you were Arab because of your picture. I still think you're attractive.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I am from Western Turkey, close to Europe.

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      You really look like an Arab. Do people from Western Turkey look like Arabs?

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      You think bearded people are arab

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      No, actually most of the men here have beards too. But your hair, eyebrows etc. are like Arabs. Do all the people of Western Turkey look like Arabs?

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I dont think I look arab. I look turkish

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      It's if you say so, but I'm sure many people will think you're Arab. If you want, do a poll and see. By the way, you're really attractive.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Nobody in Turkey thinks I am an arab.

      It is because foreigners dont seem to understand

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I very much look turkish

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I can understand someone from Turkey and Syrian from a mile away

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      In Southeastern Turkey, there is local arab population, which is near Syria.

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      No offense, but you're the type of person most people wouldn't want to get on a plane with.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Well, I wish I were born in the western Europe or america. I dont like Turkey either but the point is, someone from Turkey can easily understsand the look difference.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      A better way to put it is that I look middle easterner perhaps

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Middle easterner does not mean arab

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      But you look like an Arab

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I look middle easterner

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Among the Middle Eastern people there are Jews and Iranians, Armenians etc. and you don't look like them.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Because I am Turkish

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      You look more like Arabs than Turks, Iraqi Arabs

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I am from even Western Turkey, near Europe. Lol.

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Why do you deny that you look like Arabs? Your phenotype is completely Arab.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Westernmost Turkey

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      whatever. Everyone who sees you thinks you're Arab. You don't look European at all.

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      I am from Westernmost Turkey, just near Europe. Originally.

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Maybe but your appearance is completely Arab

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Most people here would be scared if they saw you. Lol

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      My genetics will pretty much disagree with you

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    • bellissimoe
      bellissimoe
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      Ok...

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    • Vivaldi
      Vivaldi
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      Where are you from?

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  • Anonymous
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    Yes there was

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    • Vivaldi
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      You dont mean Eternet, Usenet etc?

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