This email is over 5 years old. I doubt that neither Mr Hegseth or his mother sent it to the NY Times. How did the NY Times get this? If it was sent from a gmail account could somebody get access to their email server? Is this something that we should all be worried about?
1 yHoly crap read some reputable journalism! The times got it from "a person with ties to the Hegseth family". Doesn't take Mensa members to figure out it was sent at the worst period of his 2nd divorce and was likely his ex wife...
Either way, NYT didn't do anything illegal or immoral.
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1 yThis is very disturbing how they got it n published a personal message.
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1 yIf you read the Gmail terms of use, you'd find out that all emails are the property of Google, and Google can do whatever they want with them. A really good reporter could get a contact who works at Google to get just about anything, including this email.
Even without the terms of use, it's the Internet, and all communications goes through several servers, each of which could (and several do) read the email (most email is unencrypted, in plain text) and keep a copy if it looks interesting.
Bottom line... an individual's right to privacy in today's world is rapidly diminishing.
30 Reply I'm wondering what Donald Trump thinks of this. Targeting of his cabinet folks by media outlets could cause a great war against st them. Freedom of speech is one thing. But invasion of privacy for dirty politics is not going to go over well with most people. You know everybody has something or someone in their family life that can be drug out into the light. Even the ones at the top of the NY Times
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His 2nd wife coughed it up
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m 1 yThe information that he is constantly drunk and can't keep his hands to himself are cited repeatedly and are current, though. The message from his mother is just the icing on the cake. I would say, his Trumpist political career is over before it starts.
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Sure, foreigner, why not. Analogue to Glenn Kirschner's 1$ betting limit I have a 1€ limit of which I would wager here... let's say, 90 cents.
His own mother cleared this up. If these Democrats are allowed to say that Joe Biden's daughter can take back her whole ass diary, then this woman can take back that email. She says her son is not the same man and she wrote that email in haste.
04 Reply656 opinions shared on Technology & Internet topic. I am not disturbed and the eamil provides important information about this man's character, or rather, lack thereof. He should NOT have a cabinet post.
You would not find something like this disturbing if it senf by Biden's mother or Hunter's mom. You dislike that it exposes negative information about someone your cult leader selected.
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1 yWhy is always a conspiracy with you guys? Why is nothing ever just what it looks like?🤦♂️😂
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Maybe you should get a job at CNN? - 1 y
@sage2021 I would never work for any corporate media outlet. They’re all untrustworthy. FoxNews is hands down the most dishonest (had to pay an $800M settlement for lying about the 2020 election being stolen), but I don’t trust any of them.
Save your pennies, all this Trump stuff is going to screw us financially. He’s shown that he has no understanding of tariffs, how they operate, and when and why to employ them. Walmart and Best Buy CEOs have already reported they’ll be raising prices if universal tariffs go into effect, because THAT’S how tariffs work.
BUT…. Walmart and Best Buy knew this impact and response full well BEFORE the election, so just take a minute to think about that. Trump will help them (multi-billion dollar corporate giants) with his “business-friendly” policies as far as regulations, taxes, etc…. but tariffs aren’t good for them, but are worse for us, because WE PAY them, not the corporations. They don’t take less profit, they charge us more. And they know that. So it’s QUITE curious that they secured getting the President who would help THEM, and NOW, when it’s too late, they can pull this “oh wow, we just figured out this wouldn’t be good for the common person’s wallet…. whoopsie!”
You seem like a nice woman, I have no animosity towards you, nor do I have any reason to lie to you. It’s over, the noodles are in the pot and they’re boiling, I stand to gain nothing by convincing you or anyone else that this won’t be good. And I hope I’m wrong, but so far it’s looking bleak. Hopefully someone in Congress that actually understands Economics will get in his ear and he won’t do it. But never forget he confidently campaigned on that idea as the be-all-end-all fix to an economy that, by most metrics and relative to everywhere else in the world, is doing pretty well already, despite how much they lied and said everything is terrible and to ignore the numbers. - 1 y
@sage2021 So one of two things will happen here: he WILL impose the tariffs and that will disrupt decades-old established supply chains that America is not set up to just start manufacturing ourselves overnight (and would be much more expensive to produce here since we pay fair wages…. that’s why we outsource to China, Mexico, India, Vietnam, etc in the first place. They don’t pay shit to the workers some get the materials cheap, and we just don’t think about the poverty those people work in as long as Walmart can sell us a spatula for 88 cents). With those supply chains disrupted, goods will cost more to produce/procure, or they’ll find another cheap foreign source. “No Chinese goods? Ok, we’ll call Bangladesh.” It doesn’t just work like “Trump imposes tariffs…. America wins! Good game, adversaries!” I’ve worked in supply chain departments, the job is to just find the cheapest materials and goods. That’s it. So they’re not going to pay China $100 for X amount of Y product and then just be like “oh, ok, we’ll just start paying $1,000 dollars for the same amount of the same good, and just eat it.” No, their job is to go talk to Burma and Indonesia and Malaysia, and those guys will say “we can do it for $105.”
The second thing that could happen is Trump DOESN’T go through with tariffs, which would be better for all of us and the more desirable situation. BUT…. if that happens, everyone who voted for Trump needs to face up to the fact that this guy ran like 50% of his campaign on the “tough tariffs on China” idea…. please don’t just shrug that off if that happens and think he just reassessed and knows what’s best. That will all be at the advice of someone more qualified and more informed. - 1 y
@sage2021 So I just want to make sure everybody takes stock of it, and says what they SHOULD say to themselves: “wait a minute…. this guy was going on and on about how the Democrats were responsible for me getting ripped off, even though their candidate was the one talking about taxing billionaires their fair share while not raising taxes on the rest of us, and wanted to take on corporate price gouging, that was a huge part of HER platform. But my guy told me she was a radical Marxist (centrist corporate Democrat Kamala Harris, a radical Marxist…. that is just…😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️), and said the real answer was “tariffs”, even though economists everywhere were like “uhhhh…. thats not how that works.”” So effectively, you were lied to by Donald Trump, and you elected him largely on a false premise that doesn’t hold up once he’s actually in position to do it. And the people he helps most in reality, the wealthy corporations, were complicit in it, acting like they JUST got around to researching and understanding tariffs.
So, I hope I’m wrong, and remember Trump can’t even run again…. you guys won, it’s over, I stand to gain nothing, but I’m still carrying the same message, however too late. But I don’t want to see you or anyone else suffer financially, so just be mindful that the next four years may be rough. They want to go after our social security money, our Medicaid coverage…. this could spell disaster for a lot of people, all because Trump and FoxNews managed to trick people into thinking that the President controls the price of groceries. Hoping it won’t happen, and I’ll wave a big ol’ American flag on the 250th two summers from now, provided that no human rights were trampled on in order to achieve any modicum of economic prosperity. But I’m not anticipating that, and my flag will be upside down, to signal the distress our country is in. - 1 y
@WhiteSteve How come I was a lot better off 4 years ago? A president can implement polices that will affect the price of certain things.
for example the president can cancel oil leases and sign executive orders to interrupt the energy industry. This causes shortages that make the price of fuel go up. When the price of fuel goes up, all goods that are delivered by truck go up and everything that needs petroleum to be manufactured also goes up. It does not take much to upend an entire industry. Just by causing uncertainty is enough to discourage investment in new wells and other infrastructure.
President Trump will do everything his predecessor has done only in reverse.
It will take some time because prices always go up faster than they the go down but within a year the American people should get some relief from high prices. - 1 y
My guy….. there was a worldwide pandemic. Everything we knew was out the window for a year-plus, first time in any of our lifetimes. The things that happened to America all happened everywhere else too. And by almost any economic measure, the US recovered faster and better than anywhere else. Fact, not opinion. However bad you might think it is here, I assure it’s worse elsewhere. We still aren’t out of the woods, but we’re doing very well, all things considered. I must be misremembering because my life was really no better or worse economically under Trump, or now under Biden, or under Obama, Bush 2, and Clinton before him. No president has ever made me rich or poor. They haven’t made you rich or poor either. The influence they have on this stuff really isn’t as significant as you’re making it out to be. But I don’t hold record job loss under Trump against him just like I don’t hold inflation against Biden. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about “few just happens and it’s not necessarily under the control of, or to be credited to or blamed on the incumbent politicians. They’re not magicians, far from it. Most of them are bozos, I’m sure you and I could at very least agree on that. But thinking Trump is some business genius who’s just going to fix everything (or if he does fix things economically will do so at the expense of basic human decency) is fucking WILD. “End inflation!” Oh My GoD, wHy DiDn’T jOe BiDeN tHiNk Of ThAt?”🙄🤦♂️
The facts remain the same, even after the have any benefit to my cause. The American economy is pretty good, inflation is back where it would be in 2024 if there wasn’t a pandemic, and we’re just still getting price gouged by all the people you guys just handed the car keys to. God fucking help us.
I think you’ve been sold a bill of goods as far as Biden’s energy production efforts, and I just don’t have the energy to correct you right now, and you won’t believe it anyway. - 1 y
I would be curious to hear your thoughts on the whole tariff issue I just wrote three replies-worth of, and how those are set to make us have to pay more, just like we were all screaming they would, and how the corporations said nothing until AFTER the narrative was established to tell us they WOULD have to raise prices
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My bad…
* I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about “stuff just happens and it’s not necessarily under the control of, or to be credited to or blamed on the incumbent politicians.” - 1 y
@WhiteSteve America had a "V" shaped recovery mainly because the economy was in such great shape when it had to be shut down because of the pandemic.
The war against the fossil fuel industry and the trillions of dollars that were printed in the so called "Inflation Reduction Act" caused the inflation that we all experienced.
Paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas made us pay 25 bucks for a roast beef a few months later. - 1 y
@WhiteSteve Tariffs can be effective when used correctly. Using them as a club to get the upper hand in negotiations is what Trump has been doing and it seems to be working. He imposed tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum which were successful and did not cause inflation like the democrats claim. Inflation was 1.4% when Trump left office.
Access to US markets is a valuable thing and Trump is using it as such.
We also need to bring manufacturing back to the US.
I had to buy a new can opener. My 30 year old American made can opener died so I went to Target to buy a new one. I could not find one made in USA but I bought one made by Kitchen Aid. which at least in an American company. It was made in China. I got it home and it broke the first time I tried to open a can with it. The stuff you ger made in China is crap. - 1 y
A tariff on a specific good like steel is one thing. Broad tariffs on all goods is “doing it wrong.” And remember geopolitics isn’t about acting like a bully or a mob boss, that’s an infantile way to look at politics, that some big strong man is going to walk into a room and pound the table and get his demands met. That’s not diplomacy.
Funny you say “a club”, because you’re kind of making my point for me…one of the best analogies I’ve heard about this is “tariffs can be effective if used precisely, like a scalpel, but not just a mallet to smash things with.” Tariffs aren’t meant to be punitive devices AGAINST people, they’re tools to stimulate your OWN domestic production, if that’s your aim.
But America is a service-based economy, not manufacturing-based. They started outsourcing in the 80s because you could have lower market price points if you made your goods with cheap parts, and manufacturing, or at least materials manufacturing, moved over seas to horrible countries with poor regulatory performance. The foreign parts aren’t cheap because the plastic is cheaper over there, the savings come from paying sweatshop wages. The steel mill in China pays equivalent to like five bucks an hour and they don’t give a shit if the workers are killed or maimed due to lax regulations. In short…. it fucking sucks on a human level, but we cash in on the suffering and save money. Which is a whole other mirror-looking we should probably be doing, but we’ll save that for another time.
But the point is that the Chinese tariffs raise American prices because OUR companies pay it and pass it onto the customer. President Harding tried a whole bunch shit with tariffs back in the day (same deal too, a businessman president, rampant cronyism, corruption, etc, just like Trump’s regime), and we were in the Great Depression five years or so later. You’ll notice there aren’t a lot of schools and streets named after the guy. - 1 y
Chinese goods are poor quality BECAUSE they’re cheap. And they’re cheap for the reasons I just detailed. If you’re comfortable with American factory workers living in shacks and losing an arm in the machinery, we can have that too, even cheaper. You seem to not be grasping, or at least not deeply thinking about WHY the result is cheap goods, and you think it’s all just related to petroleum production…. which Biden outpaced Trump on, by the way, we produce more oil now than we did under Trump (fact, not opinion)…. also, climate change is a very real thing that we should be making efforts to combat and not complaining about things costing more because of it. Super fucking important for the generations after us, and just the entirety of life on Earth, not just humans. Absolutely crazy to ignore it and pretend it’s a hoax to save a few bucks. Not everything in life boils down to “how much do I have to pay?”, we have completely fucked priorities if we slip into that mindset.
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I’m all for bringing manufacturing back to the U. S., but it needs to be understood that American goods will subsequently be more expensive. It also doesn’t materialize overnight. We only have one Pittsburgh, there’s only so much steel we come up with in America. We CAN do more, and that would be fine…. BUT, in America, we try not to be subhuman ghouls who think factory workers are expendable, so the U. S. steel is going to cost more for the same relative quality of steel. And the biggest hiccup in the link is that the middle man, the business making or retailing the goods from the cheaply-sourced materials, is the one refusing to take an income cut. That’s why I’m talking about Walmart and Best Buy raising prices. And I’m still waiting for you or anyone to acknowledge that news and address it head on, as to why they suddenly, POST-election, finally crunched the numbers and said “oh no, we’ll have to raise prices on the consumer, we JUST figured it out! Sorry, guys, we should have checked sooner!” You, as conspiratorial as you are, should be having all kinds of alarms going off about that, if economy is your priority. You let these people gaslight you all into believing that someone way less powerful than them is the one fucking you. “It’S nOt Us, iT’s ThE iMMiGrAnTs AnD oBaMaCaRe!” I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, guys….. WAKE UP.
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Anyway, got off track, but the point is we aren’t just going to cut off China and Mexico and have a bunch of our own factories just instantly materialize. The number one cause of pandemic inflation was supply chain interruption, not “gas prices.” Gas was super cheap during the pandemic…. because of supply and demand. No one was doing much driving —> less gas demand —> prices drop. World opens back up —> people are driving again —> prices go back up. But the thing you’re not getting isn’t that there’s not some worldwide shortage of gas. There’s plenty of gas to go around for everyone. There’s so much gas we were able to make a moral decision to no longer use Russia as an additional source (not so much America, but Europe/Asia, etc.). If you take away ANYTHING from what I’m saying, I’d want it to be the understanding that “Gas is expensive because gas companies and their investors WANT IT TO BE.” That CANNOT be discounted in any measure. We’re being price-gouged, plain and simple. I don’t care about all “oil is traded on futures” excuses…. gas doesn’t have to cost this much, they just want it to. The Exxon CEO could make $100M a year and be doing great and be fairly compensated for their efforts. The refusal to make less than $300M a year is squarely on THEM. We foot that bill. Gas COULD be 99 cents, but some yachts are just too small to be seen in.
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So…. lets rekindle US manufacturing, that would be great. THAT’S when you use tariffs, on specific goods, not on a specific country, and the specific goods should be tariffed in a way that’s not immediately disruptive, but escalating over, say, a 10 year period, during which time the U. S. should be incentivizing domestic steel mill building and subsequent steel production. But they won’t just materialize tomorrow, and regulations would need to be imposed that would punish OUR businesses for outsourcing, beyond just tariffs, because like I said, American companies aren’t limited to China for cheap goods, they can get it in other countries that treat their labor class like garbage. This is zero percent about me wanting to be reliant on foreign sources. I think you’re just forgetting WHY US businesses opt for those foreign sources in the first place. This all goes away if corporate America reduces its greed. American corporations are the bad guys here, they’re why we pay so much. I’ll never forget hearing a recording of a conference call from Exxon or whoever it was, saying “our priorities remain with the shareholders”, which is big-wig talk for “fuck you, everyday Americans…. me and the other guys and gals living in our palatial oceanfront estates aren’t taking any kind of reduction. Tough it out.”
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Then while we’re all struggling they buy up all the real estate, and it gets even worse. And now we just handed the keys to these guys. Can’t for the life of me understand why you guys think an autistic weirdo billionaire deadbeat dad buying his way into a government role will be good for the common person. I don’t even want to open the DOGE can of worms, but that will be a disaster. You think it’s tough finding work now, wait til a bunch of bureaucrats are out on their asses looking for jobs too. But they’ll tell us we’re cutting the deficit or some bullshit, and our kids won’t learn about dinosaurs in schools in Alabama because it conflicts with Jesus, and our citizens will continue to get dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber…and we’re already mind-blowingly stupid and not focused on the things we should be focusing on.
I gotta run, but the point is, you don’t run a country by going around threatening other countries and trying to be the biggest swinging dick in the room. This is real life, not the movies. So tariffs “as a club” is political malfeasance. This won’t benefit us. If we do bring back manufacturing, it’ll be at an American standard and cost, unless these lunatics get rid of OSHA and things like that, which certainly isn’t off the table.
When we pass the keys off to guys whose only concern in life is getting rich….. holy shit, are we ever fucked.
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Sorry, that could’ve been 1-2 replies but GAG is dumb as shit with their character limits🤦♂️
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I bought good quality American made goods all the time. Air conditioners that lasted 30 years, A washer and dryer that I had for 25 years. All my vehicles were made in America and I got 12-15 tears and over 200K miles from them all with no major repairs. Yes, you have to pay more for them but they last much longer. I have my old black and white TV that was made in America by GE that I had in college. I cannot bear to throw it away. You need a digital converter box to get it to work but it still works but I need a pair of pliers to change the channel.
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Well, yeah, amen to that. People look at me like I’m unreasonable when I say I want at least ten years out of electronics, but I feel like that’s not asking a lot. That should be bare minimum.
I was just listening to a comedian saying how he was old enough to remember things “like we used to make them”, and he was like “Appliances back then were built to last, they never broke. And if they DID break….. you could just fix it by hitting them.” 😂
I think they also realized it’s better to have people coming back to buy again, haha. Like Chris Rock is saying here about the Cadillac El Dorado bumper😂
https://fb.watch/wijKgcjVuI/?mibextid=z4kJoQ
But I mean, I’m totally in favor of producing as much as we can in-house, that only makes sense. And it’s totally achievable and feasible if the millionaires and billionaires absorb the hit, not the workers or the consumers, as far as the increased cost. No one needs to make $300M a year. No one needs to make $100M a year either, but I’d let it slide on account of a good faith effort. If those execs took one for the squad and passed on $200M to the consumer and their employees instead of pocketing it and passing it on to some douchey next of kin (the son of the Yankee Candle guy used to come to the uptown bars where I went to college, pulling up in a McLaren or a Lamborghini, one of those “look-at-me” sports cars…. absolute cunt, that kid😒), we’re in a better situation. I do wonder if most Americans these days are built for factory work, though, haha. Not exactly cut from the same cloth as the guys a hundred years ago.
It always has to do with someone accusing them of sexually assaulting someone!!
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Does this really surprise you 7?
Was it authenticated by an outside source like a Republican? Fact checked? Polygraphs given to the people that supposedly had the email?
Seriously, they are accusing him of something he didn't do just like those girls that accuse their male teachers of sexually assaulting them then they confess they lied about it. Meantime the teachers life is ruined and he can't find a job or anything because of these little lying bitches!!
Anonymous(30-35)1 yShe should have said it was Russian mis (dis) information, that way the media wouldn't cover it.
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Anonymous(36-45)1 yNew York Times?
Still do trust them
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