Why Mexico *SHOULD* And *WILL* Pay For The Wall

MementoMori_

This is not a difficult case to make. President Trump has a remarkably good patriot compass. He seems to intuitively know what is good for America and have an unstoppable drive to achieve it. I am astonished at his ability to see the goal and cut through the din of disingenuous and dishonest opposition to get things done. I've never seen anything like it. After 8 years of living in a country without a leader, President Trump's unparalleled leadership skills seem like a life preserver for America thrown off a ship in the middle of a hurricane. This is a world class leader who can literally lead the entire world ... EXACTLY what America needs so dearly at this point in time.

If President Trump has a shortcoming it would be in his communication skills. Although you could argue that his direct method of communicating is not a shortcoming at all but rather an asset: especially when coupled with the rest of his modus operandi that allows him to get what he wants with coercion if needed. Together it all works remarkably well...no stupefyingly well! What a breath of fresh air! He is a one man army who true to his word, whether you agree with his methodology or not does appear to be doing it all for the good of the American people.

But there are a lot of people in the world who don't want the good of the American people. In fact they want America and its people to fail. And some of them are Americans. So they are overwhelmed with anger and their heads are exploding because due to the ubiquitous false propaganda the liberal press was feeding them for 2 years they fully expected Hillary Clinton to finish the job of destroying the country that B. Hussein Obama made such an impressive start on. They are utterly shocked it didn't happen because all along the corrupt media all but assured them they were but one president away from the end of America and Hillary Clinton was that president. It led them down the primrose path. If I was one of those people I'm sure I would having seizures too because President Trump is the most formidable adversary I have ever witnessed. I'd hate to be an enemy of America with him in the White House.

President Trump has clearly explained that the wall on the Mexican border will be built while he is president. And in spite of those who said that it never will be (Don't they EVER get tired of making bad predictions about President Trump? I mean how many times can you be wrong and still make the same erroneous predictions?) after just days in office, the plans are already in progress to build the wall. President Trump said he would build the wall how many times? 1,000+? And so he will. So you have to wonder why the Mexican president was so surprised about that, that he canceled his meeting at the last minute because he said he's not coming if we build the wall. Did he not expect President Trump to keep his promise? Again how can ANYONE keep repeating such bad predictions about this man? I feel embarrassed for them. I guess its just wishful thinking from people who have been so badly defeated that they feel utterly demoralized. So the president made it pretty clear (ya think?!)....The wall is going up.

But whether by design or not President Trump hasn't spent a lot of time explaining why Mexico SHOULD pay for the wall. And why he knows they WILL pay for the wall. The answers are is pretty simple.

Mexico is a corrupt country. The government there is in bed with the drug lords and conspires with them to smuggle illegal drugs into America. Drug overdoses account for more than 50,000 deaths in America every year. This is a form of terrorism. Yes I've heard the argument about how if Americans didn't buy the drugs it wouldn't happen. And I reject it. If someone wants to commit suicide, does that give you any justification at all to shoot them? How is this any different? Never mind that a state government is intentionally violating its neighbors laws. That alone is a cause for retaliation.

The Mexican government also has a longstanding intentional plot to dump its criminals across the border in America. This is how they deal with crime there. Instead of building prisons, which cost money, they send them over here. Is it any wonder that our cities are filled with Mexican criminal gangs that are assaulting, raping and murdering our citizens and costing us a fortune in law enforcement and incarceration expenses? In effect, Mexico is using our prison system to house their criminals. And Americans are paying the price. At this very moment, the biggest Mexican drug lord of all times is being afforded justice at the expense of the American people after being extradited here because he escaped twice from Mexican prisons and they don't want to pay for him. They want America to pay for their crime. AND WE ARE. *** BIGLY ***

And finally, there are the illegals who have the nerve to break into our country -- *** encouraged by their own government *** -- knowing that their first official act upon coming here is to violate our laws. I've also heard a similar failed argument about them as has been made about the drugs: that they wouldn't be coming here if we didn't have jobs for them. What? Is that any different than a bank robber saying that they wouldn't rob the bank if it didn't have so much money in it? What an utter piece of rubbish.

You cannot have a welfare state, like American socialists want, and also have open borders, like American socialists want, and expect to survive as a country. The two together is a recipe for destruction. And the answer is to have neither.

So why does the Mexican government encourage illegals to come here? Because that way, they export their poverty to our country (just like they export their crime) and don't have to deal with it. They make us pay for it instead. They had it figured out a long time ago and play America like a harp. Why should they pay for their crime and poverty when America is a sucker who is willing to do it for them?

You may ask why on earth would the country that is the 9th largest oil producer in the world need to export its poverty? Shouldn't its citizens be swimming in prosperity? The answer is YES. So why aren't they? Because the government of Mexico is CORRUPT. A small group of elites who run the country ARE STEALING ALL THE OIL MONEY. It's that simple. And they are playing American generosity to take advantage of us like a symphony.

When I used to travel in Mexico, people lived in cardboard boxes in the desert and police stopped you every 50 miles and shook you down for cash bribes. The government there is CORRUPT TO THE CORE. And they, along with their American liberal accomplices, are putting one (no not one, more like 20 million) over on Americans costing American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars.... dollars that THEY CAN AFFORD but would rather spend to line the pockets of the corrupt elite there.

Because of all of the above, Mexico is not the angel that some want you to think it is.

By the way *** THIS *** is the case for the wall, NOT the trade issue. That's an entirely different topic. In effect, what President Trump is telling the government of Mexico is "Because of your past behavior, the wall is going up. You have lost your right to have any say about it. And furthermore, if you don't pay for it, and start dealing with the drugs and illegal border crossings, there will be more to come. What do you want to do?"

Mexico, like so many other (if not all other) countries in the world depend on the United States for everything. They would be living in the stone age without us. Americans buy $270 billion dollars of goods from Mexico every year, by far their most important source of foreign revenue. They could not survive without that not to mention the hundreds of millions of dollars we just give them outright out of the goodness of our hearts because America is such a generous country.

So from Mexico's point of view ... Let's see, pay America a few billion dollars for the wall, or lose $270 billion a year, hundreds of millions of dollars of gifts and become cave dwellers?

...Tough choice.

And now you know why Mexico *SHOULD* and *WILL* pay for the wall.

Godspeed President Trump. YOU ARE RIGHT AGAIN. And God bless America.

Why Mexico *SHOULD* And *WILL* Pay For The Wall

Why Mexico *SHOULD* And *WILL* Pay For The Wall
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  • oddwaffle
    So... Your neighbor is building a much taller, more expensive fence. He also hired your teenage daughters to help. Then he send you the bill and demand you to pay for it because you have evil plans concerning his backyard.

    I wouldn't pay him shit. I would call the cops and hire a lawyer to sue his sorry ass if he doesn't pay my daughters.
    Is this still revelant?

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  • LittleSally
    Do you really believe the wall would make any difference? I bet the illegal immigrant numbers won't decrease by even 10%... after it's built - if it's built...

    Is this still revelant?
    • I'll take that bet. There are already 700 miles of wall. When those were built, illegal entry into the country in the areas where the wall was built decreased by 85-90%. When the Israeli's built a wall to keep Palestinian suicide bombers from illegally entering the country through the border, there was a 95% reduction. If border walls don't work, why do 65 countries already have them? Congress (including Democrats) already authorized the wall that President Trump is going to build 11 years ago. There is already a law mandating that it be built. President Trump is just following the law.

    • I bet on the underground tunnels, boats and literal airplanes...

    • Bet on anything you want. The evidence shows that border walls work.

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  • Elarra
    The bigger the wall, the bigger the ladder.
  • VictoriousSausage
    nope. here's why, you don't want to pay tax to the empire, you don't get others to pay for something you're building.

    (i couldn't resist that joke, all seriousness though, i really doubt you're going to force another sovereign country to pay for a wall that's built out of fear for the very country you're forcing to pay for it, Donald Trump is just a man, no god, no great persuader, just a man)
    • Mexico said it wouldn't give up the Texas either. How'd that work out for them? ;-)

      Remember the Alamo!

    • ah, see i wasn't alive then, man, just leave it, Mexico ain't paying for shit at the moment, and you can't force money out of them unless you invade them, Trump has already stated you're having an import tariff from them anyway, which will most liekly stop investments from Mexico and drive your economy down.

  • John_Doesnt
    I keep looking for the part where it says "I'm joking".
    • meowcow

      It's no joke... people are actually this stupid.

      Trump's campaign promises sound good to the uneducated, who cannot think the issue through to ask informed questions.

      @MementoMori_ did you ever wonder? If a wall were to be built, what would stop people from tunneling under it? That is how most of the drugs from Mexico come to the US. Illegal immigrants tend to cross the border above ground, since they are poor and have no connections to drug cartels to access their tunnel system. But there's nothing to stop a person from digging his own tunnel.

      Trump promised to "ban Muslims" from entering America. But his recent Executive Order did not do this. He essentially banned all citizens of countries with a muslim majority. He can't do this indefinitely, and it will probably only last a few weeks. How is he going to sort muslims from non-muslims in the future? Anyone can pretend to be not muslim quite easily.

    • TripleAce

      @meowcow the wall is a step forward that just makes it much harder... sure you can built a stealth plane and fly over... better yet... built a rocket that goes into outter space and skips over all radar then lands right here in the USA... it will deter many from crossing... which is the idea

      Same with muslims, puts pressure on the system so it could change

    • Don't think walls work? Ask the Israelis. For decades they were the victims of almost daily Muslim terrorist bombings on children's school buses, marketplaces and residential neighborhoods. After building a wall to keep illegals from entering, the terrorist attacks were immediately reduced by 95 percent and still are to this day. There are already 700 miles of walls on the US border. And they are working too. In the area where they have the walls, the invasion of drugs and illegals slowed from a flood to a trickle. As a matter of fact the wall that President Trump is building should have been built many years ago because Congress passed a law -- supported and voted for by Democrats -- that mandating building it. But they have been ignoring that law and not complying with it ever since. Walls work. That's why at least 65 countries use them to enforce their borders. As a matter of fact, it is the fact that walls work that makes the left so angry.

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  • jacquesvol
    "President Trump has clearly explained that the wall on the Mexican border will be built while he is president. And in spite of those who said that it never will be"
    It has been started by Bush:
    H. R. 6061, the "Secure Fence Act of 2006", was introduced on September 13, 2006. It passed through the U. S. House of Representatives on September 14, 2006 with a vote of 283–138.

    and has been there for quite a time now:
    en.wikipedia.org/.../Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_barrier

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QF30yOGag

    cdn1.pri.org/.../Dear_Fig_0.0.jpg?itok=lnZ55W3B

    cdn1.pri.org/.../NOGALES14%20057.JPG?itok=1ew3qFnt

    cdn1.pri.org/.../...8907_2887176045498087913_o.jpg

    Trump just makes noise about an existing wall , to herald it as his own invention.
  • COCOCHANEL
    my mom's mexican friend has a friend who has come to america several times and maxed out credit cards each time, never bothering to pay them back. how would they track her down? they can't even track down illegal immigrants who murder u. s. citizens because they aren't in the system.
  • marcosgo
    We prefer a trade war than paying for the f... wall!

    You can do what ever you want on you side of the border...

    I need to buy a Big Mac will you pay for it?
    • If I'm giving you money I will ask you to buy it or take it out of the money I give you. If more Mexicans stayed in Mexico and tried to improve their country they wouldn't need to flee. The walls going up and the gravy train has stopped. #BUILD THE WALL!!

    • Mexico is going to engage in a trade war with the United States? What are you auditioning for a standup routine on Saturday Night Live Español or something? Mexico would last about 15 minutes and then their entire economy would be wiped out. America wouldn't even notice anything happened. That would be the stupidest thing Mexico ever did since attacking the United States in the Mexican American War.

    • By the way Mexico said it wouldn't give up Texas too.

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  • Jager66
    I think it's SOOOOO funny that Trump is making Mexico pay for it.
  • ThisDudeHere
    I was fully expecting this to be a click-bait troll post.

    Was kind of surprised that it turned out to be actually serious.
  • Anastasiya00
    Okay. I am a conservative but I don't think the wall will work very well. So why spend a large amount of money? If you wanna build it its fine but its stupid to make Mexico do it. If you want something YOU work for it. I thought that was a conservative value? to be hard working. And if Mexico pays for it who do you think will be the type of people who pay it? The illegal immigrants? The drug dealers? what a good revenge right? NO. It would be taken from the tax payers, who are hard workers! These are the Mexicans who agree that illegal immigration is wrong, why would you want to make the hard working, businessmen/women, people providing for their families pay for something YOU want?
    Wanting to fix illegal immigration is fine and understandable. But a wall is not necessarily the answer and if you do built it, which is OK, YOU pay it. Not innocent Mexicans who work hard in their own country minding their own business
    • Thanks for your comment. All good thoughts.

      The reason Mexico should pay for the wall is because the Mexican government promotes activities that hurt our country. We need to push back. They intentionally and illegally export their poverty, crime, drugs and gangs to America so that we have to pay for it instead of them. It is costing our country billions of dollars a year as well as a terrible toll on society in crime, imported disease, disrespect for the rule of law and cultural divide. Meanwhile, their corrupt government officials are the ones pocketing the profit while they starve the people who they are supposed to be serving. Charging Mexico for the wall will sting the pockets of their corrupt government. That's where they need to be hit.

      As far as the wall not working. If they don't work, than there wouldn't be 65 countries that have them. They do work. And they work extremely well.

      Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent
      https://tinyurl.com/mdazz68

    • There's already a closed border between Mexico and USA. And none of this Its the hard working citizen's fault. If the government is corrupt, we know it is, what makes you think he will not steal the money from this citizens to pay for the wall, too? If you want a a wall, fantastic. But YOU pay for it. You are the ones who wan't to fix things, for YOU, then do it yourselves.

  • ManaX
    I'm from the UK and am sure as hell not visiting America for the next for years.
  • Red_Arrow
    The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorized building 700 miles of physical barriers along the border. It does not state "wall" and the title says "fence". The border is 1,989 miles long. So 700 miles of fence is nowhere near 1989 miles of wall. Also authorized were more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting. And Homeland Security was authorized to use advanced technology like drones and cameras.

    So only a fraction of the border was under the act. And I can find no time limit in which it needed to be installed. Further, congress approved an amount of money that was far below what was needed for the fraction of the border covered.

    I know this does not fit with your Alternative Facts, but... tough!

    • www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...rity-walls-borders.html

      Considering 65 nations have built walls. We also have walls in the DMZ zone in Korea. Walls can be effective if built right. Cheap fencing or low walls are easy to cross, and completely a waste of money.

    • Red_Arrow

      @RegularTK421 - Don't know what your point is. As the article you linked points out:
      "Experts are dismissive, saying: 'Their main function is theatre. They provide the sense of security, not real security'"

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  • ColinHarvey
    We should use the wall money to fix the roads in Michigan. My state could use $10b in infrastructure.
  • OrdinaryGentleman
    "Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said on Thursday he hoped to have a wall along the southern U. S. border with Mexico finished within two years, according to an interview with Fox News."
    www.reuters.com/.../us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-idUSKBN15H20D
    Forget sides leaning left and, well whatever trumps side is, for a second and look at the behemoth of a project sitting in the way. Effectively 2.75 miles a day of wall would need to be built to span the entire country bordering Mexico; the logistics of that much concrete delivery seems absurd.
  • EL_MORRIS
    Your not worried Mexico would go bankrupt in the process? Well, America first right?
  • Iraqveteran666
    Good take.
  • SnowHearth
    Keep dreaming
  • helloitsmethere
    You do realize that boats and planes exist right?
  • DizzyAster
    That's a long troll post.
  • Anonymous
    It's quite normal. A lot of ugly old men want big things: cars, houses, walls. They're all compensating for how small something else is.
  • Anonymous
    "Because of your past behavior, the wall is going up. You have lost your right to have any say about it. And furthermore, if you don't pay for it, and start dealing with the drugs and illegal border crossings, there will be more to come. What do you want to do?"

    Lol what? That is no where near the incentive to do it. Mexico can easily get other trade partners. We don't live in the early 20th century when shipping goods was a huge hassel. They can partner with people across the world if they don't trade with the US anymore. China would be a welcoming party and they alone would make up for the US loss.

    Mexico is not going to pay for the wall. They have no true incentive to. American tax payers are going to pay for the wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwrbmIamvWA

    I can't comprehend how people still think Mexico will give a dime towards the wall. Something that will have no real impact on stopping illegals from coming into the US.
    • "Mexico is not going to pay for the wall."

      They said they would never give up the Alamo either.

  • Anonymous
    What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
    • zero substance... waste of a post.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, I regrettably have tarnished the proud and sacrosanct legacy of internet comment board posting. If only I had taken some time to put real thoughts into my post, maybe everyone could have come together and we could've achieved world peace, but alas it's just another wasted post.

      I guess all you snowflakes can't take a joke.

    • You need to give up the crack. Your posts are incoherent.

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