American Muslims For Trump

[MementoMori_]

I watched some interesting interviews on Fox News tonight with Muslims who not only support President Trump, but who also wholeheartedly support his ban in immigration from the terrorist countries of the Middle East.

One Muslim woman said that because of the ban she feels a lot safer having lived in one of those countries. And that she knows that Islam has a very serious problem with terrorism.

One of the most interesting interviews was with the Iraqi man who served as the interpreter for American Navy SEAL hero Chis Kyle whose bravery and heroism was chronicled in the superb movie American Sniper. The Muslim interpreter, who now lives in America said that President Trump's ban makes the entire country safer and he and his family are grateful that the president is so bravely standing up to those in our own country who don't understand the threat that he witnessed first hand while he lived in that region for most of his life.

But even more than the interviews themselves, one thought went through my mind the entire time I was watching them. It occurred to me that I never heard anything like that for the last 8 years while the former president -- what was his name again? -- was in office. The question kept being raised over and over again -- where are the Muslim American voices protesting the terrorism coming out of their religion? Why aren't they louder? Now, suddenly there are so many Muslim voices speaking out to support the war on Islamic terrorism? What changed all of a sudden?

The answer is clear. When America had a president who sided with the terrorists these people were afraid to speak out. There was nothing in this country to protect them. They could not trust their own president. They did not feel safe.

But on January 20, 2017, when Donald J. Trump was sworn in as the 45th president of the United States, that all changed. Those Muslims in America who feared for their lives along with the rest of their fellow Americans, under a president who seemed more concerned about the rights of foreign terrorists than the lives of American citizens, have finally found a home. They have FINALLY escaped the tyranny and oppression of their homeland, feel the power of American liberty and feel safe enough to come out from the shadows.

God Bless America

President Trump .... FULL SPEED AHEAD!

Shireen Qudosi: Why Muslims back Trump on radical Islam - American Muslims For Trump

[Anonymous]

Only the biased media could take something so mundane as a restriction of non US citizens coming into the US from 7 countries temporarily, and call it a "Muslim Ban."

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

So, if a candidate campaigned on a promise to ban Muslims from entering the country, and other Republicans say he expressed an interest in legally banning Muslims, and then he issued an executive order banning people from predominantly Muslim countries... you wouldn't assume it's a Muslim Ban?

[Opinion Owner]

First of all it is not a "Ban" it is as stated temporary travel restrictions on non US citizens from 7 countries. As for what Trump "said" he has been misquoted so many times from the media they have lost all credit in my eyes quoting him, like the boy who cried wolf.

The fact that they continue to call a restriction of non US citizens coming into the US from 7 countries temporarily A "Muslim Ban" when it clearly is not, to spread ignorance, hatred, and further a biased political agenda, I see no reason to change my view of them.

[MementoMori_]

Oh but is IS a ban. It's a ban on radical Islamic terrorism!

[Red_Arrow]

"Now, suddenly there are so many Muslim voices speaking out to support the war on Islamic terrorism? What changed all of a sudden?" Hardly any at all. You want to see huge numbers of Muslims protesting? Watch your TV or go into the streets, and see the many, many thousands of Muslims protesting the ban which is keeping families separated and keeping many in danger of losing their lives to the terrorists they have resisted from coming here, even after already being completely investigated and vetted, cleared for entry. In fact, many already work or study here. Many have homes they are not allowed to return to here. Many have families here and cannot return after leaving for a short while to conduct business or see relatives.

[disgustingweebtrash]

I have a pakistani best friend who I have know for many years (He isn't a Muslim anymore, he has been an atheist since he was very young and has also educated his family who are also no longer Muslim) and he has supported Trump ever since Trump announced his campaign.

[MementoMori_]

Don't be fooled by the people who want you to think that supporting liberty is racist or Islamophobic and anyone who supports what President Trump does is a racist or an Islamophobe. It doesn't matter what your religion or national origin is. All people who support liberty and freedom, no matter where they are in the world, will support what President Trump is doing. He owes no apologies. America owes no apologies. Don't expect President Trump to apologize for a false motive his detractors ascribe to him that he doesn't have. And you should never do that either. Enemies of liberty want to distract you with that false claim. Whether your friend is a Muslim or not, an American or not, if he values liberty and the right to individual self-determination, than he is a friend of America and a friend of President Trump and his followers.

[martyfellow]

There are many currents among US Muslims. Some are traitors to their own people and have sold out to the media securocratic apparatus, and say whatever Washington wants them to say.

Just as there African American stooges who support Trump, so there are Muslim and Arab stooges, carefully cultivated by the media and the government.

[TripleAce]

A young boy yhat just came straight from Syria, he's only been in North America one month, told me directly that muslims back at home all were against Hillary because they all now know she linked to the establishment that erected terrorist groups in islamic countries. He said they didn't like Donald Trump but even with the ban prefered him over the opposing side because at least he will fight to actually beat them

That says a lot coming from a 23 year old boy living in Syria

[MementoMori_]

I believe that. No one could possibly like living in one of the Muslim countries of the Middle East. All of their governments are tyrannies, and they are at the mercy of a large group of their fellow Muslims who are homicidal lunatics. Who could live that way?

Their flaw is this. When Americans were faced with tyranny, they didn't cower to it. They laid down their lives to overthrow it because for the people of this country liberty has always been more important than life itself. Apparently something in their moral fiber, culture, religion and/or values is vastly different. They do not seem to be prepared to lay down their lives to stop the tyranny in their own midst. Hence it becomes OUR problem and the problem of people all over the world. It's difficult for me to understand their mindset and not hold them accountable for their own predicament because of their lack of courage and their inaction.

[MementoMori_]

Oddly enough, the country of the Middle East where Muslims have by far the best life is in Israel. 20% of the population in Israel are Muslims and it's the only place where they are truly free. It's the only democracy in the Middle East and Muslims who are Israeli citizens have 100% of all the rights of other citizens including voting and holding political office. Also, they have good jobs and the highest average income of any Muslims in the Middle East.

[MementoMori_]

No wonder all the Muslim countries want to destroy Israel. They cannot stand the competition for their own people!

[Anonymous]

Fox News regularly falsifies things to support the republican agenda.

Here are some actual facts on the ban and the lies trump tells you and you jump to believe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwFLtbc7_c

[MementoMori_]

Yawn. You are a testament to hallucinatory pharmaceuticals.

[Opinion Owner]

And when actual facts are presented you dismiss them.
Nothing like retarded republicans.

[BigBallerSodaPop]

It's about time some news sided with Republicans

[RhythmBlack]

Might as well give the Statue of Liberty back to France. We don't need it anymore.

[genuinlysensitive]

LMAO, you see falsified right wing news organizations like Fox Noise, but you fail to recognize the Left wing falsification machines like Vox. It's just as bad, only it supports the left, only difference.

[Opinion Owner]

@genuinlysensitive show me what's false in this news story.

[Map4Territory]

But the two people you mentioned in your post wouldn't have been allowed into the US under Trump's ban. I'm not calling them liars, but I seriously question the wisdom of someone who can't see the hypocrisy.

[MementoMori_]

It is a temporary ban for six months on immigration from countries that are run by terrorists and have vowed to send them over here disguised as refugees. Obama put a six month ban on immigration from Iraq in 2011... exactly the same kind of ban that President Trump just employed. Did you protest that? Was that racist? Where were the demonstrations then? If this is hypocrisy, what is that?

[Map4Territory]

Obama suspended a specific type of visa because of a specific and real threat. He never suspended refugees, people with green cards (they walked it back but it was confirmed by the White House that they wanted green cards suspended previously), or blocked visa's from an entire country. I'm sure you think literally all of that is a lie, but it certainly shows people aren't being hypocrites.

If this was just about visa's, I personally wouldn't be so upset. It's incredibly hard to get refugee status and much easier to get a visa. If terrorists are coming over, they are doing it on a visa.

But this ban has nothing to do with safety. If it was than Trump would have mentioned literally anything that is currently wrong with our immigration policy or proposed even a single way to make it better. He would have written an EO that wouldn't be torn apart by courts. He could care less about safety, he's just trying to reframe anti-foreigner bigotry as a safety for political purposes.

[MementoMori_]

It was about visas. They specifically stated that green card holders are exempt from the temporary ban.

[MementoMori_]

Look, President Trump stated EXACTLY what he was going to do when he became president. He said he was going to issue a temporary ban on immigration from terrorist countries to give them time to develop an extreme vetting system and that he was going to set up safe refugee camps IN THOSE COUNTRIES to house the refugees. That is PRECISELY what he is doing. Why the sudden shock as if he is doing something that wasn't expected? If you are shocked about anything shouldn't it be that he is the most honest president in modern history so far, carrying out every one of his campaign promises to a T.

[Map4Territory]

At no point have I ever mentioned that I was surprised. I'm not surprised by what Trump's done, just horrified. Exactly as horrified as I was when Trump discussed Muslim bans before the election, just like most Republicans like Paul Ryan were horrified by it before the election.

Visas and refugee status are not the same thing and Trump banned refugees. And again, the White House said they intended to ban green card holders as well before walking it back.

Trump has never expressed what aspects of these programs are weak or what changes he wants to make to them. Because he's doing exactly what he said he'd do, ban Muslims. He couldn't care less about strengthening our vetting process. But he's flip flopped on that as well because he's just another girly politician who cares more about optics than actual leadership.

Also nothing you have said has defended your original point. The Muslims you cited are hypocrites whose opinions almost certainly do not represent the whole.

[MementoMori_]

Obama's policies vis-a-vis these countries resulted in the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims (not to mention hundreds of thousands of Christians). President Trump's policy will save hundreds of thousands of Muslims while at the same time stopping the worldwide pandemic of radical Islamic terrorism that is emanating from those countries because of the failure of the Obama doctrine. You tell me which is the more humane result for Muslims and for everyone else in the world.

[Map4Territory]

You are all over the place. You claim Muslims support the ban, I question it so you jump to liberals being hypocrites. I refute that so you jump to some bullshit about feeling surprised. I refute that so you jump to an argument that is basically, "Obama bad, Trump good, and fck you if you think I'm going to explain why or provide evidence". Your arguments are disorganized and incoherent. If you are being honest with yourself, even you would have to admit you are making your case poorly. But the question is, why are you jumping around rather than defending your points? Most of the things we have argued can be viewed through different lenses depending on your values. Instead you seem to disregard that and just look for an expedient argumentative position. So you could care less about policy, all you care about is winning a debate about how Trump is good. Don't you think that such an evangelistic view might be biasing you, affecting how you perceive current events?

[MementoMori_]

I gave you the last word. Don't forget to thank me. ;)

[Map4Territory]

That's considerate of you. Sincerely, I thank you

[Red_Arrow]

In 2011, two individuals were identified as POSSIBLY having been inadequately screened. So the State Department processed applications from Iraq in greater depth, resulting in a slowdown, but absolutely no ban, and the slowdown was affecting only applications from Iraq, not several countries. So that story was completely false. Where the heck do you get your news? Oh, wait. Fox. That explains it. And you are calling the slowdown, not a ban, on Iraq alone, "exactly the same kind of ban that President Trump just employed." Not anything like it at all!

Any your including the part about the Iraqi interpreter supporting the ban was interesting, considering one of the first people affected by the ban was an Iraqi interpreter for our forces who is not being allowed to come to the US after being completely vetted and accepted. The delay could cause him to lose his life to those he was helping us fight. Great way to reward those who risk all to help us.

[Browneye57]

Perhaps more Americans will quit fighting everything and go along with what's best for everyone else. The left has become completely un-hinged.

[MementoMori_]

I don't mind if liberals want to destroy their country. The problem is that it's my country too.

[RhythmBlack]

The left isn't going to the destroy this country, Trump is, and I'm waiting with my popcorn on hand. It's funny how me and a friend predicted what he'll do for kicks in high-school and a lot of them is coming true. Again, waiting with my popcorn.

[Browneye57]

@RhythmBlack gonna be a long wait toots. The democrat party is going to become so insignificant that likely they will never come to power again.
You see, the poor people the left CLAIMS to represent have been down-trodden by them for the past 20 years. Once they see what true growth and prosperity looks like in our country they will no longer support the democrat party. The minorities, the women, to the point where those left will become so insignificant that it won't matter.
A good example is this immigration flap - all the shreaking and clamoring for the same things that have been said and done for the past 20 years - Trump is finally doing something about it. Check out this vid here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXwnlsNFXIY

[RhythmBlack]

And a wall that'll cost American tax payers millions is the way to stop. Say it with me, Mexico isn't going to pay for that wall, American tax payers will. I mean, this ain't Attack on Titan you know, where the wall came from millions of Collasal Titans.

[MementoMori_]

Ain't it funny how the libs all of a sudden give a crap about American taxpayers after 8 years of spending this country into more debt than was amassed by every president in US history before Obama combined?

Make me laugh! You care about as much about taxpayers as you care about the US Constitution.

[John_Doesnt]

This is ridiculous. The ban has nothing to do with any countries that have ever attacked America. Never! The ban also gives preferential treatment to Christians, which violates the first amendment.
The fifth amendment is also being violated by not giving these people due process.

Seriously: none of these countries have been involved in attacks against the US or involved in ISIS activity.

[MementoMori_]

"The ban also gives preferential treatment to Christians, which violates the first amendment. "
False for two reasons:
1. The ban includes all people from the banned countries. Christians were turned away with Muslims.

2. Foreign nationals residing outside of the United States have no First Amendment rights.

No foreign national has any constitutional right to enter America. It's a privileged that must be granted. And the Constitution gives the power of granting or not granting that right to the president. PS: Breaking -- President Trump just fired the acting Attorney General -- an Obama appointee -- for breaking her oath of office and insubordination by refusing to enforce his lawful executive order regarding immigration.

[MementoMori_]

"The fifth amendment is also being violated by not giving these people due process."

Also false since foreign nationals residing outside the United States have no Fifth Amendment rights, or any constitutional rights at all.

[Iraqveteran666]

No ban on Saudi Arabia. It's just a ban on countries where Islamic terrorism is out of control.

[John_Doesnt]

@mementomori the ban affects Americans with green cards, they do have constitutional rights. They have been detained for hours at airports without due process or without reason. The ban has already resulted in the mistreatment of people that do have constitutional rights.
Secondly: you're argument is that nobody outside the US deserves constitutional treatment. So no freedom of speech, no freedom of expression, they can be jailed without a fair trial.
Do you hear yourself? It's wrong either way.

[John_Doesnt]

@Iraqveteran666 I just said: those countries have NEVER been involved with terrorist activity in US territory.
Why ban travel to the US when those countries have never had people coming into the US that are dangerous? But allow people from countries where people have actually caused problems?

[Iraqveteran666]

This is not the first ban and won't be the last one.

[MementoMori_]

@John_Doesnt

"the ban affects Americans with green cards, they do have constitutional rights"

False. The administration specifically stated that people with green cards are exempt. Some locations misinterpreted the rules initially, but it was corrected.

"Secondly: you're argument is that nobody outside the US deserves constitutional treatment."

False. I never argued that nobody outside of the US deserves constitutional treatment. I cited the fact that no foreign national outside of the US *HAS* constitutional rights.

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Get your facts straight man. Not a single thing you have said so far is true. You sound like you are living in an alternative universe.

[John_Doesnt]

so it is still wrong. You admit Americans have already been mistreated and that people deserve constitutional rights.
How is this right? People are having their right to due process taken away and Christians are being given preferential treatment.

[MementoMori_]

You've got to give it up man. Even after you learned that everything you believed about this was wrong, YOU ARE STILL angry at President Trump. What that means is that you aren't interested in the truth, or the actual things he does, you just want to be angry at him because you don't like him and your side lost the election. That's what it's really about for you. So clearly, no matter what he does and no matter what I say, you will never be persuaded. Even if President Trump did everything you want him to do, you would STILL be angry. So what's the point in talking about it? How many times do I have to repeat that foreign nationals who reside in foreign countries ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANY RIGHTS UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION. If you don't like the rights they have or don't have in their own countries, then go protest over there. That's not America's or President Trump's fault.

[John_Doesnt]

This has nothing to do with being "mad about the election". Please parrot something else from Fox News.
People are being mistreated, abused and dying from this. I'm not stupid, but everyone who supports Trump clearly is.

[Viperkiss]

@MementoMori_

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwFLtbc7_c

[MementoMori_]

Grow up please. 500,000 foreigners were processed traveling into America in the 3 day period after President Trump's executive order went into effect. Out of a half million people, ONE HUNDRED AND NINE of them were inconvenienced for a few hours while their paperwork was straightened out and then went on their way. No one got a firing squad, no one was harmed in any way, no one was tortured. A handful of people were *** INCONVENIENCED *** so they could get the paperwork right. OMG! Trump is HITLER! This is Nazi Germany!!! You don't care about the facts. You're pissed off you didn't get your way in the election and now you don't care about anything except destroying President Trump and the rest of the country in the process.

[Viperkiss]

Except they were all wrongly targeted for 'special' treatment simply because of their religion and the bullshit retardicans believe.

[John_Doesnt]

@MementoMori_ 'somebody' reported my responses. So I'm done responded to you. Go be offended and be a report monkey else where.

[Djaaaay]

MementoMori_ Well adressed !!! Unreal some people...

[MementoMori_]

I've never "reported" anyone. I don't need big brother to help me, I do just fine by myself.

[MementoMori_]

These Democrats don't care about truth, reality or facts. They are filled with hatred, intolerance and rage and they don't care about anything except avenging Hillary Clinton's loss... no matter how much they damage the country in the process.

[Dimmu]

Ironically , statistics say that Muslims in the US are twice as peaceful as non Muslim
But who cares about facts and numbers
Let's just hate cause we are "civilized"

[jacquesvol]

They want you to forget the bowling Green Massacre.

[madhatters4]

i love reading great fiction

[ThugUgurcan]

Its purpose is to prevent terror.
ındia endonesıa malesıa egypt suudı arabıa turkey There are many more Muslims in these countries.

[Anonymous]

fox news. the same news site that feature kellyanne conway, the one who coined the term "alternative fact" or, another word for "lie"

[MementoMori_]

This is such a false argument. Any person with a brain knows what the term meant. It means that your side gives one set of facts making your case, and our side gives another set of facts making our case -- the same thing that happens in any debate. The fact that your side twists the clear meaning of what she said into something that was never meant or said only proves the disingenuous nature of your entire approach to discourse. You are the intolerant and dismissive of any other views except your own selfish take to the extent that you engage in the very fascist tactics that you wrongly accuse the other side of committing. It's really nasty and disgusting. And don't expect us to respond to your assault with anything less than as aggressive a retort as is necessary to make you pay they price for your tyranny.

[Opinion Owner]

so like a republican to bring in FALSE STATEMENTS

[Anonymous]

Typical, conservatives patronize naive minorities that think they're going to benefit from voting Republican. Much like there were women in Europe that were AGAINST the women's suffrage movement.

Please google "false consciousness"

[Iraqveteran666]

It's racist to think minorities should vote Democrat because they can't decide for themselves

[Opinion Owner]

@Iraqveteran666 Of course, that's the typical argument. Forget the fact that you morons have been chanting "All lives matter!" except for now when refugees are fleeing for their lives. "Well, I mean, fuck all those Muslims!"

[Iraqveteran666]

https://youtu.be/8Z10eiuQ8q8
This former black panther days it best.
But all lives do matter I see nothing racist about that, it would only be racist if I said white lives matter or black lives matter. Well you can blame Obama for the refugee crisis.

[MementoMori_]

@Iraqveteran666

That's the MO of the far left (which is now synonymous with Democrats). Create a crisis and then propose a radical solution to solve it which inevitably involves advancing an anti-American agenda. Yes, B. Hussein Obama is the cause of the refugee crisis (and Hillary Clinton get's honorable mention). Their catastrophically failed Middle East policy is the reason this problem exists in the first place. Now the criticize President Trump for not doubling down on that catastrophe? MAKE ME LAUGH!

"Never let a crisis go to waste."

--Rahm Emanuel (formerly B. Hussein Obama's chief of staff and right hand man, and now failed mayor of Chicago)

[Djaaaay]

I saw it too. I agree with your take. Well done !!