How is that a thong? You deserve to be able to wear a swimsuit in a public place without getting kicked out let alown shamed for it this is why the American south has such a bad reputation and honestly i know guys often say the west doesn't need feminism but i think honestly with this and the planned parenthood criminals I honestly think the American south really still dose.
I remember another story from a few years ago. I pool or water park can make their own rules regarding dress, but they should be clear and consistent. www.nydailynews.com/.../ggrrgr-article-1.1396929
It really goes both ways sally. In that state there are large communities with Amish communities so they tend to have different morals. In texas, they actually banned males from going to the alamo movie theater and made fun of them when they caught offense to it. I noticed these problems happen in the southern and mid western states. These things dont happen in big cities
people are asshurt, its a human nature to see a woman in a bathing suit in the summer. Its how it is, no matter how hard you want to change it, no matter how many bills, or executive orders you write, or how many protests you hold, nothing will change it. If you dont like how she looks, then YOU CAN LEAVE. No one is forcing you to stay or look at her.
she did not look improper at all, these people must be a combination of puritans+ISIS.
On the other had, she hasn't been shamed, raped, violated, etc. There's no sexism here and nothing to cry about. Just some prudes. go put some shorts on and be glad you don't actually have something to cry about. You don't need 15 minutes of fame. Now you can cry because you made an idiot of yourself in front of everyone.
It's normal nothing outrageous. Sounds like they need to get sewed to provoke a precedence and avoid this type of events to happen. Poor her she must have felt awful
Teenage boys will get excited at the sight of a girl in any type of swimsuit. Any way when your at school going age the boys are always lifting up girls skirts to check them out anyway With all the sex scenes you see in modern day movies compared to yeas ago. I recon who ever that person was who said that should be ashamed of themselves. Some people claim to have this high moral standing and yet they are the worse hypocrites around themselves.
@HazellaHaze well just the way its cut its high in the legs and low up top and its pink it just looks like more of a body suit then a bathing suit too me and just looks hot
This has nothing to do with sexism... It only has to do with human stupidity, with people not busy enough with actual work to criticize others over nothing.
It has everything to do with sexism. Men are rarely held to such strict dress codes as women, largely because women are expected to be more modest than men because they are seen as more inherently sexual. That's sexism, clear and simple.
@cipher42 I quote "Mothers and fathers complained". So, if women complained, I don't think exism is the real cause of this. As I said, I think it has more to do with human stupidity than "sexism". You know, if I go to a pool with this static1.1.sqspcdn.com/.../mankini.jpg , I don't think people will tell me "It's ok because you're a man. We would have expelled you if you were a woman".
Both genders are capable of being sexist? And are you really gonna tell me that that example you gave is anywhere near as revealing as the actual swimsuit in question?
@cipher42 What you're telling me is that a woman can be sexist towads another woman? It sounds like a black man being racist to another black man. You're telling me that it's sexist that both genders have different dress codes so, following your reasoning, if I go somewhere wearing a miniskirt and get expelled or something, it is sexism?
Yes, women can be sexist. Black people can be racist against black people as well. It's called internalized bigotry, and though it doesn't involve the same sort of power dynamic as bigotry directed at oppressed groups from non-oppressed groups, it is still bigotry.
It's sexist if there are unreasonably different standards for men and women. So yes, if men were to have an unreasonable dress code, that would be sexist, like instances where men are required to wear long pants even in hot climates while women are allowed to wear skirts. Now, again the difference in power dynamic is worthy of note- as one of the reasons men don't wear skirts despite women wearing pants is because femininity is seen as demeaning, but regardless it still equates to sexism.
Also not how it works. The world isn't black and white, things aren't just either big or small. Big issues can have small consequences while still retaining their bigness. Is that really so complicated to understand?
@cipher42 No but I think it's useless to point out such minute things and waste our time on such petty problems while there are bigger issues with actual sexism and inequality.
Again, you're thinking too black and white. It's not as if we have to choose between only addressing small issues and only addressing big ones. It's entirely possible to do both and be successful in both. Yes, smaller issues can serve as a distraction from larger ones in the right circumstances, but I really don't think that's the case here. In this case, it's more a matter of using the many small examples of problems to illustrate the existence of a larger institutionalized issue that the small issues are symptoms of.
@cipher42 "institutionalized issue" Don't tell me you're one of these people who believe in this patriarchy theory... I see it as "black and white" because our time is limited and precious, and I think we should probably use it to fix bigger problems and let the minor problems for another day, once the bigger problems are solved.
What "patriarchy theory"? The idea that a country that was built largely by and for men and where women were prevented from being anything other than homemakers until relatively recently, and which has fewer women in government than such countries as the oh-so-progressive Saudi Arabia might have lingering issues with women being treated as less than men? Then yeah, I fucking believe in that theory.
And treating anything as black and white when it isn't is idiotic, and only leads to misguided policies that simply do not work in a complex reality where all sorts of shades of grey exist and influence matters. Additionally, though the small issues might be symptoms of a larger one, they still need to be addressed. You can't just treat the cause while ignoring the symptoms, especially when the cause is so complicated and in fact exacerbated by symptoms that are allowed to run rampant. And again, using the smaller symptoms to illustrate the existence of the bigger issue is a fine strategy.
@cipher42 Yes, but people still try to fix the symptoms and no the actual cause. And the fact that there are less women in X positions might have some slight link with sexism but this issue is mostly fixed. If a person, man or woman, is not suited for a position, he/she should not have it just because he/she is a man/woman. Parity is just dumb.
Although the "patriarchy" could be considered a valid model many decades ago, don't tell me that our current society was built by men and for men. Many women contributed to the rise of our society through various efforts : in science, in wars and in many other sectors. I think you're actually discreditting some women there with that whole "patriarchy" thing.
Again, both issues can and should be addressed at the same time. As for the lack of women in government, you realize that there are plenty of countries that have more than double the proportion of women in their legislatures as we do? This clearly isn't an issue of natural gender differences, so the answer can only be institutionalized sexism. Like jesus fuck, we still haven't even had a female president yet.
Our current society was built by and for men? I mean it depends on how far back you want to go, but believe me, even in our modern society there's plenty of remnants of the way our society was constructed at the founding. Yes, women have made plenty of progress and have influenced the course of our society to a good degree. However, the power balance is still not where it should be, and men are still dominant in our society.
@cipher42 So basically, you're like a vacuum. Hunting for every small piece of "sexism" believeing in that "patriarchy" conspiracy theory. I'm sorry, but I'd rather fend off Islam to actually defend women's liberties than waste my time on these almost ridiculous "points".
Again, as I said, if we have not many women in politics, it might be because the current candidates aren't even decent. In France, a woman came close to become president, in the USA as well. I don't think it's a matter of gender here, only your "patriarchy" theory is telling you this.
Any small example is important- it illustrates a larger picture. If you can't understand that, I honestly don't know what to tell you, other than perhaps that you need to take a few more political or social theory courses.
It's pretty goddamn clearly not merely an issue of a lack of candidates. And even if it were, that in itself would be telling of institutionalized sexism since other countries have so many perfectly fine female candidates, and there really cannot be that much variation between people in different countries except as a result of culture. Like, you cannot seriously be stupid enough to believe that the US having a quarter as many women in its legislature as it has men, and never having had a female president is merely random chance. With a disparity this size, and with other countries managing to have relatively proportionate gender representation, it would be utterly idiotic to assume that culture doesn't factor in at all.
@cipher42 Well, since you always come back to your conspiracy theories that don't actually point out anything relevant, I don't see the point in continuing this conversation. Whatever I say, you always repeat these "patriarchy' mottos and it's clearly not making things advance. Farewell.
So basically you don't think this particular issue is important thus you discount the importance of the larger picture it's a part of? That's pretty dumb if you ask me, but whatever, have fun with that whole black and white worldview thing if that's all you can handle.
That's just not the appropriate response for this type of situation. Nobody cares what the hell you find attractive. I'm not offended for her, she literally just got to your comment before I did. I am offended for me.
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How is that a thong?
You deserve to be able to wear a swimsuit in a public place without getting kicked out let alown shamed for it this is why the American south has such a bad reputation and honestly i know guys often say the west doesn't need feminism but i think honestly with this and the planned parenthood criminals I honestly think the American south really still dose.
Really you should be able to where a actual thong in a public place without getting kicked out.
I remember another story from a few years ago. I pool or water park can make their own rules regarding dress, but they should be clear and consistent.
www.nydailynews.com/.../ggrrgr-article-1.1396929
It really goes both ways sally. In that state there are large communities with Amish communities so they tend to have different morals. In texas, they actually banned males from going to the alamo movie theater and made fun of them when they caught offense to it. I noticed these problems happen in the southern and mid western states. These things dont happen in big cities
people are asshurt, its a human nature to see a woman in a bathing suit in the summer. Its how it is, no matter how hard you want to change it, no matter how many bills, or executive orders you write, or how many protests you hold, nothing will change it. If you dont like how she looks, then YOU CAN LEAVE. No one is forcing you to stay or look at her.
she did not look improper at all, these people must be a combination of puritans+ISIS.
On the other had, she hasn't been shamed, raped, violated, etc. There's no sexism here and nothing to cry about. Just some prudes. go put some shorts on and be glad you don't actually have something to cry about. You don't need 15 minutes of fame. Now you can cry because you made an idiot of yourself in front of everyone.
It's normal nothing outrageous. Sounds like they need to get sewed to provoke a precedence and avoid this type of events to happen. Poor her she must have felt awful
Teenage boys will get excited at the sight of a girl in any type of swimsuit. Any way when your at school going age the boys are always lifting up girls skirts to check them out anyway With all the sex scenes you see in modern day movies compared to yeas ago.
I recon who ever that person was who said that should be ashamed of themselves. Some people claim to have this high moral standing and yet they are the worse hypocrites around themselves.
Wow, what is this world coming to.
Sun times? really? isn't that like a tabloid or something in the UK?
www.thesun.co.uk/ is indeed a UK tabloid.
I agree with you that that is absolutely ridiculous.
I got told of for laughing and hugging my boyfriend in a Jacuzzi on my birthday.
The woman said it was too sexual. ._.
Its the parents fault. Nothing is forcing the parents to take their kids to the community swimming pool.
As a former teenage boy, a gust of wind could've excited me. If anything it would've caused a few guys to stay in the pool a bit longer.
Poor girl. I bet that was embarrassing. That looks like a standard one piece bathing suit.
Trust me boys get excited if you so much as look at them lol x
not saying i agree... buuut i totally think that one piece is waay sexier then the bikini lol
I find that fascinating, actually. Can I ask why>?
@HazellaHaze well just the way its cut its high in the legs and low up top and its pink it just looks like more of a body suit then a bathing suit too me and just looks hot
Cool, thanks for the reply. I think that's way cool, by the way...
@HazellaHaze no problem i find womens things like bathing suits and underwear very awesome and very fun
You're awesome :-)
@HazellaHaze well thanks but i dont know how you know that haha
if you want to talk more about it you can message me if you want
Sounds like a fake news story. Its British tabloid. People wear swimsuits all over the US.
This has nothing to do with sexism... It only has to do with human stupidity, with people not busy enough with actual work to criticize others over nothing.
It has everything to do with sexism. Men are rarely held to such strict dress codes as women, largely because women are expected to be more modest than men because they are seen as more inherently sexual. That's sexism, clear and simple.
@cipher42 I quote "Mothers and fathers complained". So, if women complained, I don't think exism is the real cause of this. As I said, I think it has more to do with human stupidity than "sexism". You know, if I go to a pool with this static1.1.sqspcdn.com/.../mankini.jpg , I don't think people will tell me "It's ok because you're a man. We would have expelled you if you were a woman".
Both genders are capable of being sexist? And are you really gonna tell me that that example you gave is anywhere near as revealing as the actual swimsuit in question?
@cipher42 What you're telling me is that a woman can be sexist towads another woman? It sounds like a black man being racist to another black man. You're telling me that it's sexist that both genders have different dress codes so, following your reasoning, if I go somewhere wearing a miniskirt and get expelled or something, it is sexism?
Yes, women can be sexist. Black people can be racist against black people as well. It's called internalized bigotry, and though it doesn't involve the same sort of power dynamic as bigotry directed at oppressed groups from non-oppressed groups, it is still bigotry.
It's sexist if there are unreasonably different standards for men and women. So yes, if men were to have an unreasonable dress code, that would be sexist, like instances where men are required to wear long pants even in hot climates while women are allowed to wear skirts. Now, again the difference in power dynamic is worthy of note- as one of the reasons men don't wear skirts despite women wearing pants is because femininity is seen as demeaning, but regardless it still equates to sexism.
@cipher42 So, sexism is not a big deal then if such little things are pointed out as sexist.
Also not how it works. The world isn't black and white, things aren't just either big or small. Big issues can have small consequences while still retaining their bigness. Is that really so complicated to understand?
@cipher42 No but I think it's useless to point out such minute things and waste our time on such petty problems while there are bigger issues with actual sexism and inequality.
Again, you're thinking too black and white. It's not as if we have to choose between only addressing small issues and only addressing big ones. It's entirely possible to do both and be successful in both. Yes, smaller issues can serve as a distraction from larger ones in the right circumstances, but I really don't think that's the case here. In this case, it's more a matter of using the many small examples of problems to illustrate the existence of a larger institutionalized issue that the small issues are symptoms of.
@cipher42 "institutionalized issue" Don't tell me you're one of these people who believe in this patriarchy theory... I see it as "black and white" because our time is limited and precious, and I think we should probably use it to fix bigger problems and let the minor problems for another day, once the bigger problems are solved.
What "patriarchy theory"? The idea that a country that was built largely by and for men and where women were prevented from being anything other than homemakers until relatively recently, and which has fewer women in government than such countries as the oh-so-progressive Saudi Arabia might have lingering issues with women being treated as less than men? Then yeah, I fucking believe in that theory.
And treating anything as black and white when it isn't is idiotic, and only leads to misguided policies that simply do not work in a complex reality where all sorts of shades of grey exist and influence matters. Additionally, though the small issues might be symptoms of a larger one, they still need to be addressed. You can't just treat the cause while ignoring the symptoms, especially when the cause is so complicated and in fact exacerbated by symptoms that are allowed to run rampant. And again, using the smaller symptoms to illustrate the existence of the bigger issue is a fine strategy.
@cipher42 Yes, but people still try to fix the symptoms and no the actual cause. And the fact that there are less women in X positions might have some slight link with sexism but this issue is mostly fixed. If a person, man or woman, is not suited for a position, he/she should not have it just because he/she is a man/woman. Parity is just dumb.
Although the "patriarchy" could be considered a valid model many decades ago, don't tell me that our current society was built by men and for men. Many women contributed to the rise of our society through various efforts : in science, in wars and in many other sectors. I think you're actually discreditting some women there with that whole "patriarchy" thing.
Again, both issues can and should be addressed at the same time. As for the lack of women in government, you realize that there are plenty of countries that have more than double the proportion of women in their legislatures as we do? This clearly isn't an issue of natural gender differences, so the answer can only be institutionalized sexism. Like jesus fuck, we still haven't even had a female president yet.
Our current society was built by and for men? I mean it depends on how far back you want to go, but believe me, even in our modern society there's plenty of remnants of the way our society was constructed at the founding. Yes, women have made plenty of progress and have influenced the course of our society to a good degree. However, the power balance is still not where it should be, and men are still dominant in our society.
@cipher42 So basically, you're like a vacuum. Hunting for every small piece of "sexism" believeing in that "patriarchy" conspiracy theory. I'm sorry, but I'd rather fend off Islam to actually defend women's liberties than waste my time on these almost ridiculous "points".
Again, as I said, if we have not many women in politics, it might be because the current candidates aren't even decent. In France, a woman came close to become president, in the USA as well. I don't think it's a matter of gender here, only your "patriarchy" theory is telling you this.
Any small example is important- it illustrates a larger picture. If you can't understand that, I honestly don't know what to tell you, other than perhaps that you need to take a few more political or social theory courses.
It's pretty goddamn clearly not merely an issue of a lack of candidates. And even if it were, that in itself would be telling of institutionalized sexism since other countries have so many perfectly fine female candidates, and there really cannot be that much variation between people in different countries except as a result of culture. Like, you cannot seriously be stupid enough to believe that the US having a quarter as many women in its legislature as it has men, and never having had a female president is merely random chance. With a disparity this size, and with other countries managing to have relatively proportionate gender representation, it would be utterly idiotic to assume that culture doesn't factor in at all.
@cipher42 Well, since you always come back to your conspiracy theories that don't actually point out anything relevant, I don't see the point in continuing this conversation. Whatever I say, you always repeat these "patriarchy' mottos and it's clearly not making things advance. Farewell.
So basically you don't think this particular issue is important thus you discount the importance of the larger picture it's a part of? That's pretty dumb if you ask me, but whatever, have fun with that whole black and white worldview thing if that's all you can handle.
Ridiculous, people should dress for themselves. Hopefully she sues the F out of them.
Yeah.. no way a body like that is going to excite me.
What is wrong with it?
that's kinda a dick response.
@RedVulcan So be it
This world isn't a fairy tale
Ah well. It's not like you're actually in any danger behind your monitor if you say nasty things online.
@RedVulcan Why is it nasty that i don't find her attractive
and why are you so offended for her?
That's just not the appropriate response for this type of situation. Nobody cares what the hell you find attractive. I'm not offended for her, she literally just got to your comment before I did. I am offended for me.
@RedVulcan "Nobody cares what the hell you find attractive"
You clearly do.
You could have worded it like so: Yeah, not my type. Still gets your point a crossed without making you seem like a total ***hole.
Fucking little whiteknight snowflakes.
If this is true, this is not sexism. This is just bad parenting.
One of the few people who correctly doubted it was true.