+1 yDoesn’t change much of anything to me. I don’t care if a suspect is combative, I mean, the whole scenario is built for that. For better or worse, we have a government-sponsored gang that rolls around enforcing a behavioral standard none of us directly created or even were consulted about, we just get born into a bunch of rules with no real input or way to change it, not without a huge ordeal. We don’t get a choice or even much of a voice. I am personally VERY uncomfortable with that, both with a complete stranger making judgement calls on my behavior, and them having the right to essentially kidnap me, and I simply can’t come up with a rational reason for why I should accept that and “go quietly.” I’m so shocked that people are so weak-willed that “just do what the officer says and nothing will happen to you” is actually considered a rational take on this kind of thing. None of this is beneficial to me in that scenario, and I care a lot more about what I think than what a bunch of complete strangers think, so I’m never just going to trust that they are correct in what they’re doing, or that the result is going to be in my best interests. Being arrested and facing charges, potentially having my freedom —the one thing I should be guaranteed to never, EVER lose under any circumstance, as that’s the one unalienable right I believe in— taken away from me for any period of time... I’m sorry, I’m just not going to accept that, and if the rest of humanity labels me an “outlaw” or a “bad guy”, so be it, I still believe myself to be righteous in that. You want to kick my ass or something, get after it, that’s how we’re naturally meant to keep one another honest. Taking my life would even be in bounds (as long as you were directly affected/involved), but taking my freedom is not. If the store owner knelt on Floyd’s neck, i’d just be like “welp... pass around counterfeit bills and eventually one of those guys is gonna have to come talk to you”, and whatever happens to you from there is your own fate of your own making. What offends me is people not handling their own business and a third party involving themselves that’s really the meat of the issue for me, I’ll just never feel ok about that. And it works both ways, I don’t want their help as much as I don’t want their harassment, I’ll handle my own conflicts as I see fit and whatever I deem to be ethical, no one else. And there’s no opt-out, not in America, seemingly not anywhere, and nothing in life makes me more uncomfortable than that. I would trade my artificially-obtained safety in exchange for the unbridled freedom my heartbeat entitles myself and all of us to.
Long rant, here I go again, lmao, but I say all that to say I 100% “get it” when people fight or elude the police, that seems like such a normal and natural reaction to what’s happening. Our society wants us to have no backbone and no heart, to just be docile and roll over when the government says so, like when I see a person go quietly, I’m just amazed that they’re accepting this fate for themselves, or maybe we’ve just been so broken that we actually believe that somebody besides ourselves actually knows better than us of what’s “good for us.” But it’s just not in me to ever believe that, to ever trust that. Cops aren’t all bad. People aren’t all bad, and cops are just people. People are however very flawed, or at very least, there’s no template as to what’s “not flawed”, all kinds of matter of opinion and perspectives and life philosophy comes into play, and these flawed people are the same pool we get all cops and all civilians from. Bottom line: there’s no hard and fast rules about pretty much anything. We attempt to make them, but they aren’t really correct in my eyes, and the ones that exist are created by the aforementioned flawed humans, so I just can’t put a whole lot of stock...1214 Reply- +1 y
... in anything the human mind imagines. Plenty of hits, but a whole lot of strikeouts in that game, lmao. I guess I just feel like our natural behaviors —which just “are”, it’s only our subjective thoughts that make things right or wrong—are curtailed by this attempt by organized society to guarantee things that were never meant to be guaranteed. Prosperity, good health, comfort, happiness, even our very survival... we confuse these desires with entitlements. I don’t see a single other species with that, humans are literally the only animal on the planet who believe this for themselves (it seems, I guess we can’t really interview the other animals for their thoughts, haha), so that’s a huge clue to me that what we’re trying to implement is invalid. Our freedom is all we’re ever promised. That freedom includes potentially harmful scenarios for others, but it’s up to us as independent beings to enforce that for ourselves or possibly for those we share DNA with, and those who can’t simply don’t survive. “Bad” things will happen to people all the time, it is what it is. It sounds cold and brutal and gruesome, and it is, but that’s what nature is, that’s all we’re “entitled” to, like or not.
So all that said, I’ll never fault someone for trying to protect their own freedom by escaping an artificial authority. The more society isn’t ok with that, the more audacious I consider the human species to be. So, within the context of what society has become rather than what I believe to be naturally proper, if you ARE going to have this gang of police, there needs to be an understanding... - +1 y
... that they are at a distinct advantage, and if our society is as civilized as it thinks it is, the onus is on the police to do no harm to any suspect. It’s to be expected that any suspect is not going to take kindly to a complete stranger inserting themselves into a situation, and if you aren’t up to finding a way to subdue them without harm, then you should sell insurance or learn to fix air conditioners, whatever, no one has a gun to your head forcing you to take the police officer job. I don’t want to hear how hard it is to be a cop, you signed up for exactly this.
The issue isn’t and never has been about George Floyd as a man. For all I know, I’d have thought he was an asshole. But no man, of any color, should ever have his neck knelt on by an agent of the government. He wasn’t even the only cop there. You ever pig-pile on someone as a kid? They’re usually dead to rights. Why wasn’t there a three-cop pig-pile (no pun intended, but “that’s gold, Jerry, gold!” lmao) temporarily. Handcuff his hands behind his back, I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t handcuff his ankles as well, and now, where’s he going? Nowhere. And you sure as shit don’t need to kneel on his neck, while other two stand there watching. So, I don’t know, man, obviously I believe in my views if I have them in the first place, but concede that they’re unconventional and maybe unacceptable to others, but that’s my position on law & order in general. You can’t really rightly execute it without violating people, as comfortable as it might make the majority, and I just keep coming back to “we aren’t entitled to any of that”, so it’s my overall governing philosophy again of “social problems are just the manifestation of the futility of our attempts at organized society.” - +1 y
i stopped reading when you called the police a government sponsored gang
they did their job. georgie boy was combatative and they DO have the authority to restrain him as necessary. and he said "i can't breathe" before anyone was leaning on his neck so that obviously wasn't the cause of death - +1 y
Ok so what was the cause of death then? How did he die, by magic, or did he kill himself? 🤨I'm curious
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@Jayrock24w Who knows? You know how they say people die in jail under mysterious circumstances? You never know when someone is covering something up or the whole truth doesn't get out. Floyd also said he was claustrophobic yet was in his car with the windows rolled up. Who knows what he really died of. It could have been an OD for all we know.
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🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ wow OD ok, adios amigos 🤣🤣
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The coroner's report said he had methamphetamine and fentanyl in his system, and some preexisting heart thing. And this stuff "complicated" the subdual. Seems like the mental and physical stress of the situation combined drugs and medical problems caused him to die in a situation where most people would have been able to endure -- albeit tough to have a guy on your neck, but he was asking to be put in that position and was saying he couldn't breathe even when he was in the car. There's no way Chauvin goes down for murder-2 with the bodycam footage. Realistically they should be going after man slaughter. - +1 y
Ok but can i ask one question? What would u do if u was him in that situation, knowing the cops and blacks have a bad reputation when interfering with one another?
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I've seen many videos where it took 4 officers to subdue a man on drugs or adrenalin as they can seem to have superhuman strength and feel no pain. The police will do anything to end the threat if their lives are in danger. Police shouldn't have to have a prize fight with a suspect to take them into custody. As for taking the job. There are lots of people who enlist in the military too. They also took what could be a dangerous job. They don't have to treat enemies with respect before they blow them away. And if they get killed everyone weeps and bury them with honors and give them medals for bravery. Cops get shit for their jobs and more and more people will fight the police from the start and seem to be actually looking for trouble. They also seem to be prepared for a showdown by making sure they tape it all to make them look like the innocent one when they were instigating a showdown so they could sue. There are a million bad people for every bad cop. Who do you want on your side when you need help?
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Ur right, thanks for the tip, i'll keep in mind 😜😝🥴🤪
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@Jayrock24w None of what Floyd did.
This "reputation" of blacks and cops being at odds, is not because of any pervasive racism, it's because of people like Floyd making life hard for cops and a subset black people being *convinced* of racism at the drop of a hat. Following instructions won't always keep you safe because you can find bad cops out there, but resisting against bad cops isn't going to make it any better either. We should always be looking at police reform that can help weed out or prevent bad cops, but regardless, the public should follow instructions. (and don't load up on fentanyl i guess) - +1 y
😑ight Ur right, i'll take that into consideration 😊 adios amigo
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+1 yThese people claiming that they won't change their minds after seeing a man actively resisting and Acting like a 5150 while being on two incredibly dangerous drugs is a moron and uneducated.
George Floyd was experiencing cardiopulmonary and psychological distress minutes before he was placed on the ground, let alone had a knee to his neck. He was saying he couldn't breathe minutes before being placed on the ground. George Floyd was foaming at the mouth as indicated in a transcript of the bodycam footage, which is indicative of a drug overdose.
The Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) allows the use of neck restraint on suspects who actively resist arrest, and George Floyd actively resisted arrest on two occasions, including immediately prior to neck restraint being used. The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExdS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect, and requires extreme restraint. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExdS suspects may die irrespective of force involved.
The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExdS. Restraining the suspect on his or her abdomen (prone restraint) is a common tactic in situations, and the white paper used by the MPD instructs the officers to control the suspect until paramedics arrive. Floyd’s autopsies by the Chief Examiner and Michael Baden revealed a potentially lethal concoction of drugs — not just a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl, but also methamphetamine.
Together with his history of drug abuse and two serious heart conditions, Floyd’s condition was exceptionally and unusually fragile. Chauvin’s neck restraint is unlikely to have exerted a dangerous amount of force to Floyd’s neck. Floyd is shown on video able to lift his head and neck, and a robust study on double-knee restraints showed a median force exertion of approximately approximately 105lbs.190 Reply
I read Thomas Lane's statement on what happened right when this whole mess was starting, so I didn't think it was a race issue or that the police were acting very out of line (besides the knee on the neck, not sure that was appropriate). This solidifies the fact that the police reacted accordingly to the situation, so my viewpoint is the same. Floyd had a bad reaction to his fentanyl, which was the main cause of his death. He didn't deserve to die, but the cops didn't outright murder him, they did what the situation called for.
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I knew it, I fucking knew it. You trump supporters are evil. Glad you said this, now I know.
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@Froyologirl if that's what you think. personally I think beating people in the streets and calling it a peaceful blm protest is evil too, but to each their own
This doesn't change my opinion at all. I'm glad this 'leaked' video is out there. Citizens of the world need to know.
The cop needs to lose his badge, lose his pension, go to jail (and I wouldn't care if he was murdered inside)... everything. This cannot be allowed to continue, and have cops protected under a larger legal umbrella that permits any action with impunity.
I think what I always thought - a man died senselessly, tragically, on this day.1819 Reply- +1 y
Oh please, how many people die senselessly every day here on Earth? Look at my post above. A white woman died senselessly at the hands of 2 black teens, but since she was white it doesn't matter because only black lives matter. No protests for her death, but some career criminal resisting arrest dies and all hell breaks loose.
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I would have given you a "like", except the part about someone being murdered, which I can't support as a technical rule. But otherwise well said and I agree.
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@Jamie05rhs Yeah I know I was pushing it on that part. But I think cops shouldn't be able to skirt punishment, be free men, so that's why I wrote it. It's an almost problem to solve.
@Daniela1982 An overly simplistic and biased response.
And unarmed black men are 2.5x more like to die at the hands of white cops. - +1 y
@Jamie05rhs The guy was complaining, whining, and moaning the whole time like he was on drugs. He claimed to be claustrophobic but was in his own car with the windows up so I call bull shit. He was resisting all the way instead of obeying the police commands to get in the car. This does not change my opinion except on the cops side up to then. If he had just obeyed what the cops said and complained all he wanted at the police station until things were cleared up he would still be alive. The way he was resisting seemed like he was on drugs or possessed drugs and didn't want them to do a drug test on him and get sent back to jail as he was a career criminal. He didn't deserve to die, but he was asking for trouble and got it by his resistance.
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And where did you get this statistic, the BLM website?
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@Daniela1982 are you serious rn, like fr that's how u think 😂 of cops really wow
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@Jayrock24w What is with you turkey pot pies? There are 5,000 good cops to every bad one. There are more bad people than good on Earth. Yet when a bad apple dies it's tragic and protest the fuck out of it, but when good people die at the hands of bad people who gives a shit, right?
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Nah i ain't tryna boil ya bubbles their so bring it down a bit. I just think its funny, but that's ur opinion, not mine. Ima just keep my experience to myself 😂😂
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But i mean i can't blame u for thinking that, cuz that's the world we live in, and that's the knowledge that taught🤷🏾♀️
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@Jayrock24w You can drop the phony talk and spelling. You're just trolling.
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@Daniela1982 girl u funny, but that's ur opinion, who am i to judge u for that? Right? I'm just saying this shit is funny asf 🤣🤣🤣😂
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@Daniela1982 "turkey pot pies"?
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Real 🤣🤣🤣
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That's pretty unnecessary, not caring if the cop gets murdered in prison? Like damn, a lot of negativity there.
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you are literally insane
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@ScottSummers are you talking about me? If so, I don't see how not caring if someone gets murdered in prison isn't insane. It's not like was a serial killer or did it in cold blood.
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thank you amanda for having a heart :)
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@Daniela1982 oh stfu Daniel. You probably don't wear a mask.
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U kno if you'll like watch the video, and listen carefully, u would see that he wasn't whining like he was drugs, he was pleading for his life, because the cop before reaching the car already had his gun pointed at him and cussing. If u listen carefully u would notice that the reason he didn't want to get out the car is beacuse he didn't want to die like he said if u had LISTENED 🤦🏾♀️
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+1 yI see nothing here that justifies the death of Floyd.
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@Pliskin55 Yes I have.
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@Whatthefluff It's possible that Floyd died thanks to the pack of fentanyl he downed before he was approached by cops. He was already fading in the car.
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@Pliskin55 sometimes. What's the relevance?
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Being a narcotic, I'm sure that his breathing was compounded, but I can't believe that in this instance, it would be the sole contributor to his death.
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He wasn't threatening anyone or at risk of becoming violent/unsafe. Yes, he should have just gotten in the vehicle, but he was not behaving in a way that justifies a police officer bringing him to the ground and restraining him in such a rough way.
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@Pliskin55 You don't need a medical degree to know that kneeling all your weight on someones neck for over minutes will kill them. Doesn't matter if he was under the influence of drugs. Fentanyl doesn't force your windpipe to close. I was strangled by own patients for 6 seconds and nearly lost consciousness and had bruises that lasted weeks. Yes, I have been around people on drugs. A majority you can talk a person down. Even if you can't, there's still options to negotiate before using physical violence.
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@Pliskin55 that doesn't make sense.
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@Pliskin55 still doesn't warrant Chauvin kneeling on his neck for over 8 minutes? How is okay that a trained police officer can get scared and shoot someone, but a regular citizen must remain calm with a gun in their face?
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@Pliskin55 that doesn't answer the question
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@Pliskin55 I never said anything about him getting shot. You're aware you don't have to get shot to die right?
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@Pliskin55 yes I said that. You don't need to remind me. I'm asking you that question. Unless you had a stroke, it sounds like you did.
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he resisted arrest, the other 3 who didn't are fine. he also said i can't breathe before anyone knelt on his neck meaning the police were probably not the cause of death
honestly it changes everything - +1 y
@007kingifrit it ABSOLUTELY changes everything especially because he was using all means necessary to resist and delay arrest before he'd die of whatever he took.
I’m pretty sure every black person we have out on a pedestal to show the world that cops are racist, was a bad person. That “kid” in Florida was a thug who beat people up and robbed stores. The other “kid” in California was the same. I don’t know about Floyd. But none of them were innocent and it’s funny how the media portrays them as innocent good kids wielding bags of skittles.
In any case, the cops kneeling on Floyd’s neck is inexcusable. I watched a video from 2017 of a white guy who called the police because he was having a sort of panic attack and he was asking them for help. So the cop put the guy on his face on the ground, and kneeled on his back with BOTH knees.
The guy died. They laughed about it. The paramedic was like “this man is dead.”
Don’t fucking excuse the cops formtheir evil deeds, because the guy they killed was not innocent. They killed his ass. Maybe he would have died anyways. But they fucking kneeled on his neck. That’s not proper protocol. I don’t care if the motherfucker is a thug and a piece of shit. You go to court and you get a fair trial and that’s that.
Cops aren’t only abusing black people. Another problem with what seems to me to be conservatives, reacting to liberals being stupid. Just because liberals want to put thugs and criminals and pieces of shit up on a pedistal does not mean you have to become a reactionary who just denies everything about everything.
I’ve been watching videos of cops killing people since at least 2010. I had to stop eventually because the pain of seeing police brutalize people was too much for me to handle. I was so full of rage and anger. And conservative dudes want to hold up the cops like they are angels and shit.
Cops are motherfucking thugs too. Blue badge gangsters with legal guns who get to kill people at will. Fat donut eating half brain half wit mindless angry and brainwashed thugs with a hive mentality. Fuck the police, I can’t fucking stand em.
Most cops are good people in my experience though. So I don’t hate them all. But any cop that does bad shit, I hope he fucking suffers bad for his misdeeds. Suffer you fucking scum bitch.30 ReplyThe idealized black hero… It just exhibits the moral values of the black community… On day two they came out with the video footage from the store fronts that showed the same thing from a different angle without the audio. At that time it was obvious he was a criminal. It was obvious he was running game, being non compliant, and resisting arrest. It was obvious that he was the one that took it to the ground because he didn’t want to get arrested. It was obvious that most of the handling of George Floyd was by the black cop. The evidence was reviewed and the one officer was charged with third degree murder/manslaughter due to George Floyd dying in custody due to rough treatment. That seemed justified and that should have been the end of it and the courts should have taken care of the rest… But in the face of all clear evidence, people’s true colors come out and the plague of racism rose out of the black community, they attacked and beat up innocent people on the streets because of the color of their skin, they robbed businesses, they burnt down buildings, they murdered people to rob them and out of racism, they mobbed innocent people in cars, they kidnapped people, they lynch people, they extorted businesses, they rapped people, they demanded reparations because they think they are superior to their fellow Americans, they advocated for anarchy and communism because they hate what America stands for, etc. That’s what they value... It’s no wonder why they portray George Floyd as their hero and martyr, he was a crazed criminal anarchists that didn’t respect the rule of law or anyone he came in contact with.
20 ReplyOk I'm seeing a lot of people still defending this guy. And they're still saying the knee on his neck is what killed him.
After watching the footage it just confirms my suspicions. The guy was not cooperating and was very erratic. Even tho he said he's not on drugs to me it seemed pretty clear he was on something.
And one of the autopsy before already said that his death was due to drugs not the knee. And the guy was screaming he couldn't breathe before he was even on the ground.
And he can't get into the cop car cause he has claustrophobia? My guy he was just driving his SUV with two passengers what claustrophobia are you talking about?
At the end of the day I don't see any intention that they tried to murder this guy or that this was an act of racism. In fact the other two passengers was black as well, but you know what the difference is?
The two passengers weren't resisting and cooperated with the police. Now in terms of using the knee on the neck to restrain someone I'm not sure if that's a technique that was taught to them. But if it is then how can you blame the cop?
The cops arrested I have a feeling that they're going to go free. And I'm starting to think there's going to be a second wave of riots.
Cause let's be real even with this footage being released people are still going to say the cops are racists.40 ReplyBecause I have conflicting feelings about the validity and "spin" of everything I see, read, and hear on media, it's been very hard for me to form an opinion about this situation.
Based on what I've seen so far, I'd been inclined to believe that the cop kneeling on the neck was the cause of death, but, now, hearing about the drugs in Floyd's system, and the calculated amount of pressure exerted on his neck, I don't know.
Still, it looks to me like the police handled the situation very poorly. This video, to me, shows Floyd to be either on drugs, deranged, or both.
I would think that the police should have had him quickly subdued and secured.
But that makes me think of another point of view: Were the police trying to accommodate Floyd's anxiety by not subduing him quickly? Maybe they should have quickly secured him at the first sign of derangement for his own good.
In my opinion, there would have been outrage by certain groups if that would have occurred.
I've also heard that there was "personal history" between Floyd and one of the police officers involved.
What to believe?
There are a lot of good police officers out there protecting our communities. I also know there are some police officers who go into police work who shouldn't be there.
But, the police are needed.
What isn't needed is the skewed, sensationalistic media that isn't presenting news and statistics in their entirety.
I believe in freedom of the press. I also believe the press has a responsibility to it's consumers to deliver the news completely and fairly.
Otherwise, it's not news, it's propaganda. What is propaganda used for? Starting wars.10 ReplyMy opinion has always been that George Floyd was a man who, regardless of what happened here, got his life taken when that shouldn't have happened, and whose death was served as a political martyr for scumbags like Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA to make the world even sh*ttier than it already is. Had he been white or this not been within the last eight years, no one would have cared about his skin color; it would've just been an innocent (enough) man needlessly killed by a cop in a tragic incident. But since we live in Clownworld now, this has become about "police brutality" and "defunding the police" because the many human beings nowadays have the mental capacity and understanding of sea slugs and want to latch onto whatever hot-button political issue that makes them feel better for a moment to absolves them of their own sh*ttiness and sin. Thank goodness for police cams, but regardless, he was an unarmed man who didn't need to die, let alone let human trash destroy America "in his name."
TL;DR: It's still a shame what happened to George Floyd, but the people exploiting his death are almost the worse thing to happen from this, something he likely wouldn't have wanted regardless of this situation.10 Reply
+1 yThe poor guy was in cuffs surrounded by police. There was no need for how he was pinned to the ground. I don't agree 100% with police all the time but I respect them for the dangers that they face on the daily. But there is a line that they should not cross. Killing someone who is in cuffs is just like shooting someone in the back that is running away. I agree that black lives matter.. but so do the rest of all races. It takes one rotten person at the exact time to cause a world of shit. That cop did exactly that. It takes more people to smear that shit around and make a horrible situation worse by looting and rioting. Yes they got a lot of attention but was it the attention that they needed to get thier point of a senseless death at the hands of police while in custody brought up to a better light. Not in my opinion. They made a bad situation worse. They took the attention off of Floyd and gave it to the chaos and destruction. Yes by all means March and protest and tell the world about how its wrong to kill someone that is in cuffs. Let them see that. Not the video of a burnt out fipped over police car or a video of a building on fire. I know that there were peaceful protesters in that group that had no intention on doing more than protesting and marching. Again the bad apples get the wrong attention.
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+1 yNo. He didn't deserve to suffer and die. Gasping for air for over 8 minutes is murder. He didn't do anything to warrant being murdered. Cops are law enforcers They're meant to arrest criminals and let the judiciaal system bring them to justice. Chauvin acted as judge, jury and executioer... and he enjoyed watching the life go out of poor George Floyd. It's so obvious he took pleasure in murdering him. An arrest shouldn't end in the death of someone before they've even had a chance of a fair trial.
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+1 yI work in healthcare and take care of drunk, belligerent patients everyday. About half of the time, these same patients are also withdrawing from various, or multiple, drugs. I care for these patients in addition to my patients who truly want to get better. I have never once laid my hands on a patient to injure them. I've worked in healthcare since I was 18. A majority of the time, you can talk a person down. About 2 years ago, a patient with severe psychosis strangled me and a coworker was able to talk her down without bringing physical violence to her. I went through months of therapy because of that.
It doesn't matter if George Floyd was doing/acting something suspicious. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Given that logic, cops kill all innocent people.50 Reply
+1 yin honesty he should've been cuffed and taken away i don't get why he was put on the ground... they did do that right away but they just didn't get him in the car securely or he resisted but they could've taken a billy stick and beat him with it rather than kneel on his neck... but i don't get all the violence and destruction... yes he died needlessly but this was only the 8th killing of a black man without a weapon in the past 12 months... no reason to burn down america... shame on our leaders for letting it happen.
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+1 yWhy don't we have body cam videos of blacks killing whites? Because they don't have body cams. But no one protests when a white woman is killed by 2 black teens in an attempted car jacking. This whole BLM is a load of crap as blacks kill more blacks that whites do.
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One person Started Blm and got with another person who have the same view. Thoose people found more people and more people and more people. If no one is protesting about this white woman being killed than that means you aren't either. People like past the point of blm and want to compare two evils. There is hatred in every group. Murders, robbers, just plain evil everywhere there is human nature. Instead of you spitting out venmon about the balck people who are doing good and what to see change. Why won't you be the voice of change for your people. Maybe because your hate for blacks out weigh your live for your own people. I don't see how blm will be a load a crap do blacks kill yes, no whites kill yes, do Hispanics and Asians kill yes. No person is greater than any other person. No one deserves to be killed and no one has the right to kill any other person. The police are supposed to protect and serve so many people died in the hands of the police for unjustified reasons. That does not have anything to do with the race group they are from committing crimes. Will it be OK of a cop kills a white kid because they shot up schools? Use your brain.
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Not only do blacks kill blacks more often but blacks kill whites more often than whites kill blacks, so why do whites not riot every time a white is killed? Hmm could it be that the media only makes a fuss when a black dies? Now I said that the covid mask wearing etc was to see how easily we could be controlled, the BLM riots was a test to see what it would take to get civil unrest. Now if you put the 2 together and look at the bigger picture what will happen is the media/government will stir up civil unrest like the BLM riots then lock us down and take away our rights like covid 19. Mark my words!
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@Si213 They won't stop at that. They are already destroying our National Heritage by tearing down statues and changing school names and mascots, street names, and burning and rioting. So who is showing all the hate now? How long does it take hate to fade? Our rights are being tested one by one to see how much we will tolerate. Freedom of speech is apparently gone. I'm sure guns will be the next. And then who knows what will come after those?
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Police need to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen. When I call police, I need to be reassured that they won't shoot my dog because they're trigger happy.
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Well this has its roots in slavery and this will always be the case, because of the mainstream narrative that white Europeans are the inventors of slavey. But if a little research is done on the subject you will find that white Europeans joined the slave trade, one that had been started hundreds of years before white Europeans had started doing it. No one ever talks about the islamic/eastern slave trade, no one talks about to this very day blacks still enslave other blacks in country's like Nigeria for instance. Bear in mind I have been to Nigeria and have seen this with my own eyes.
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bruh shut up. This ain't a interracial issue. It's about the cops that's all dummy
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Thank you for your kind words, froyologirl it just occurre's to me that it would not be the case if the shoe was on the other foot for example if whites were killing more blacks than blacks killing whites. There would be uproar. Now there is some truth to what you say that it is a problem with police brutality, but if that was the real problem why did blm get involved and turn it into a racial issue. Have you looked at what blm stands for go on there Web site please, have a look!
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doesn't change my opinion at all. I already knew he was probably a junkie who got the cops called on him. This shit happens all the time in poor neighborhoods.
This very same thing happened in my old neighborhood 3 years ago. Lucky for the police they showed up and they guy already died from overdose. but he trashed the store and was screaming "Leave me alone!" If the cops showed up 5 min earlier they probably would have restrained him and he would have died in their custody.
We have to fix our drug problem to prevent more George Floyd situations.
He would have never tried to use that fake bill, overreacted to the police, or had that heart-attack if it wasn't for his drug abuse.
If black cops were called on him, same outcome would have happened. People made it racial.40 ReplyThis video didn't change my opinion one bit, I still think those police officers should spend the rest of their life rotting in a prison before they're condemned to hell. To all those ignorant dumb bigots that ever advocated for these law enforcement officers the only thing that I have to say to you is suck on that you motherfukers. This man was murdered, in cold blood with use of excessive force and no probable cause. JUST BECAUSE YOU WEAR A BADGE DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE A GOOD GUY! Thank you for posting this. Everyone needs to help this video spread so it can go viral and justice can be done. These officers deserve nothing less then to be put in prison with a bunch of other inmates and beaten on a daily basis by the same people they beat.
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Dude, get a grip! There are lots of murderers sentenced to death that have been on death row for 20 years. Why don't you go protest about them?
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I think maybe you're missing the point, or maybe you just didn't read the whole post. These cops killed a guy in cold blood. They deserve to be shoved inside a prison and beaten by others for the rest of their lives, however long or short that maybe. I have absolutely no idea where you are getting the notion that I'm siding with prisoners from.
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@jkingoffYou are insinuating that all cops are bad. There are but maybe one in every 100,000 good cops. They are certainly not all bad. I know a couple of Orange County Sheriff deputies and they are some of the nicest guys I know. I would not hesitate to go out with them but they are married. If you knew the scum sucking maggots of society that they have to deal with every day you would praise them too. So one career criminal who was fighting with the police was killed. I am thinking it was more from a drug overdose then from the neck hold. He was complaining about being claustrophobic in spite of him sitting in his car with the windows rolled up. Claustrophobic and his windows rolled up? Give me a break! How about all the cops that are killed during domestic abuse cases? There have been more cops killed by bad guys than bad guys killed by cops in similar circumstances. But does anyone protest when a cop, who was lured to a domestic abuse call, and then ambushed and killed, get any notice? No, not at all. Only when one does something bad do they get noticed.
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You're making the wrong assumption about my intention. I think you've misread and misunderstood my post. I didn't say all cops are bad. All I said was that the cops in the video that killed that man deserve to be put in prison for the rest of their lives and beating on a daily basis. I'm not anti cop, I'm just pro integrity. Just as much as cops hold citizens accountable for their actions they themselves are not above the law. The murderers in this video deserve to be put to Justice. I would also like to see your statistics on how many cops there are good vs bad please provide the proof of your findings. Furthermore, how can you not feel upset and outraged about what happened?
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@JKingOff you are jerking me around, aren't you? Where is a copy of the medical examiner's report about cause of death? Everyone can get huffy and puffy about the cops, but what if the guy died of a drug overdose? He could have gone peacefully to the police dept and get it all figured out. But no, he fought them because maybe he knew he would be going to jail as a 3 time loser. People only want to think the worst. So what if all these dip shits are proved wrong, that the cop wasn't the cause of death?
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Public records, I'm sure they also have a copy in the court proceedings. No I'm not jerking you around. It was also in the paper autopsy reveals cause of death suffocation. I still can't believe that you're defending them when his own body camera showed him beating the guy to death. there were plenty of other ways they could have handled the situation, but instead they chose to kill him. For all you know maybe the reason why he didn't want to go with them is because he feared being shot or killed by the police. Let's try putting this another way. Take away the badge, the title, and the uniform. What if this were just any other person that did this to that man. Pulled up beside his car, pulled out a gun and told him to get out of the car, restrained him and took him around the corner, and then with a group of other people proceeded to beat him to death. what's upsetting to me is even though these guys are obviously guilty that there are still people defending them simply just because they are cops.
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Well you are never going to find out how many corrupt people there are in all, including our own government. I', assuming you would agree that there are way too many. In some countries the cops are all on the take. I saw that in Tijuana when I went there. I'll agree with you on one point, that if this cop/cops killed this man they should pay a price. I would think the cops would want the same and get rid of those types of people.
u +1 yEarlier on, I thought that Floyd had been outright murdered. Then I learned that he died at the hospital (or on the way there). Then I started reading more about the MPD police chief, Derek Chauvin, and George Floyd's history and started to become skeptical about murder charges.
I saw this video earlier in the week and after seeing it, murder is completely out of the question. The cops are by no means totally blameless here, but at worst they should be charged with assault. If they press forward with murder, they will lose. And if you ask me, I think that some on the left want that to happen because then it will "confirm" that there is systematic racism and it will add fuel to the fire.
It is all a very tragic situation. The fact that this was hidden from the public makes it infuriating and less sympathetic. George Floyd should not have died. However, he was no saint and Chauvin is not a satanic murderer.10 Reply1. Don't do drugs
2. Don't do crimes
3. Don't resist arrest when you got caught
4. Be respectful
These are such simple things that could have saved his life.
He was on drugs. Cops were respectful at first. He was resisting and crying that he can't breathe while he was sitting in the car and asked if he could lay down on the ground.
Yeah the cop held that knee way too long, but Floyd's own actions led to this incident. I'm sure the cop didn't believe that Floyd actually couldn't breathe, because he was saying the same thing when he was just sitting.50 Reply
+1 ythe dude was pretty terrified. and he's letting them know he has health problems. My viewpoint I don't think has changed much after watching that. It only reinforces my belief that cops have too much power. Which stems from the idea that its a job not many choose to do. Especially in areas where there is a lot of crime. So in return for their service, working a difficult and stressful job, they are protected by the judicial system when they make mistakes. I believe its a mixture of the high amounts of stress and a bit of systematic racism is what makes cops become pigs.
30 ReplyOkay to put everything aside it’s not okay for anyone to kill anyone 😂 I mean like even if he was white , black , Hispanic , Asian it should still go viral because a cop which we cannot do much they have more power and can't go around killing someone just so easily.
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sorry but this is naive and childish, people need to kill eachother, we can't survive if we don't
on an unrelated note it isn't clear the cops did kill him; he started saying "i can't breathe" before the cops knelt on his neck... so how do we know that killed him? - +1 y
He was prob saying I can’t breathe before cuz he was too shook up and scared. N ok idek what u meant in the first sentence but the cops were wrong. The cops weren’t getting off him and then could’ve simply put him in the police car with the other police men. Court n such would handle it not the police.
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If u were in that situation I’m pretty sure u would’ve been confused and had a anxiety attack when a guy put u in handcuffs has u on the floor with their knee on u. U can simply do nth while other police men are not giving a crap. Long story short he shouldn’t have passed out either way or even died to the extreme
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you said it isn't ok for anyone to kill anyone. i called you childish for saying that. the ramblings of a spoiled youth.
we NEED to kill other people in order for society to function. we can't have safety at our borders, or law and order, or anything like security if we don't have the threat of killing to enforce order
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no i'm a normal adult and i know not to resist the police... there were 3 other people being arrested with george floyd and did any of them have an anxiety attack? no
this is his fault, he acted wrong, he was on drugs and he has a history of extremely violent behvior
did you know he spent 5 years in jail for putting a loaded gun in a pregnant woman's belly and robbing her?
There is no racism evident anywhere. The arrest and restraint of George Floyd was 100% justified. Putting a knee on any mans neck for 9 minutes is completely unnecessary and a man needlessly died. George Floyd is not a hero or icon, he was a lost soul that gave his life because of the mistakes of two men. Himself and the cop that killed him.
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actually if you watch carefully he said "i can't breathe" before anyone knelt on his neck. it is now in doubt if the cops actually killed him at all
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@007kingifrit there was never a need to have a knee on the guys neck for 9 minutes. Two autopsies identified neck compression as a contributing factor or primary cause. The guy was on the ground handcuffed, facedown. What were they trying to do, prevent him from Rolling away? That cop made a horrible mistake.
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the autopsies did not say anything that conclusive... maybe the one paid for by the protestors but that's suspect
and i don't think its unreasonable to kneel on someone's neck if they are resisting arrest. keep in mind the pandemic does warrant unusual holds and george floyd did have the virus - +1 y
@007kingifrit No, you're making excuses, a man laying down in handcuffs doesn't need a knee on the neck to keep him restrained. That's just stupid.
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+1 ythat video doesn't really add any new information to me. i've not followed that case closely. i don't even understand why he was stopped in the first place but man the guy really behaved suspicious. just fucking do what the officer says. it's not so hard to just show your hands or put your hands on the wheel when they say it but for some reason he just did not manage to follow the simplest orders.
of course that by no means excuses what happened to him. i'm by no means defending what the officers eventually did to him but if i was the officer, i would have been nervous too. i mean you gotta think about that as the police man, just a quick reach under the seat or in whatever place can pull out a gun and that was your life. i understand why those poor bastards over-react so much. but in this case, there was no reason to knee on his neck and slowly murder him. at the point where his hands were in cuffs, there was no danger.10 Reply
+1 yI don’t change my mind on murder, and I will never justify murder.
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So you are against Abortion?
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Abortion is not murder
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@scarlett774 Other people have different opinions on that, just the same as the cops trying to subdue a crazy man who is fighting them.
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@daniela1982 the “cops” are murderers, Floyd was not fighting them as you say and abortion is not murder 😂
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@Daniela1982 Most cases cops are justified on being tough on people that is resisting arrest. Also, if you pull a gun out be prepared to be shot. I would say 99% of the time if people do what cops says , they are not going to die. Now the guy in Missouri That media kept showing pics of him in 5th grade, but the guy was like 7 foot tall and wide and cop was size of Barney Fife and that would lead to a gun being pulled. The media showed pics of a little boy because they knew it would cause problems for cops. Media usually don't like cops , because police won't tell them all the information they have.
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Wow look at you justifying murder and being a hypocrite
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@scarlett774He was resisting them all the way. And you can call abortion anything you like. Because clearly helpless aborted black baby's lives didn't matter as much as a career criminal's did.
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@888theGreat They never say what the criminal was doing, only what the cop was doing. They ignore the cops that have been killed trying to arrest someone or being ambushed by fake domestic abuse calls. They just love crime so are always on the side of the lawless because they themselves have no order in their lives. They glorify rebels of society yet hate Southern Rebels. They just don't have any decent sense in them.
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@daniel1982 first of all you always bring up black babies which is so stupid, find a new taking point that actually makes Sense. Second of all cops choose their profession, they know what their getting into when they decide to put on that uniform, they know the risks of being a cop and supporting a fucked up system. And lastly people don’t ask to be murdered unwillingly by the police, you can try to justify murder all you want but you never can and you never will. It’s murder plain and simple. All those innocent people never asked to be murder by the police yet you couldn’t give a shit, don’t pretend you give a shit about “black babies” when you couldn’t even give a shit about the innocent murders by the police and it shows by you justifying a killer, how pathetic can someone be to justify a murderer and killer.
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And criminals know what they are getting into when they do the crime. You are a career criminal soe time or other you are going to get arrested. And when you fight with the police to keep from being taken in don't complain when you get treated roughly. How many officers have been nice at the way they treat people and had their tasers or guns taken away and used on them. Why do you glorify crooks so much. Maybe you were lucky your mom didn't abort you. Because you are justifying murder yourself so stop being a hypocrite. But you are only 17 and don't know jack shit about life yet. Try growing up some. And when some black S O B comes to rape and possibly kill you don't call for the police. They will be too busy fighting with people that don't want to go to jail.
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Hun your 32 and fucking delusional. I’m not justifying a murderer because Floyd didn’t murder anyone are you ok? Also he was arrested for a counterfeit 20 dollar bill and that bill happen to be legal. Also stop being racist it’s unattractive and makes you look even more of an idiot than you already look like
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Not being on the side of career criminals does not make me racist. But of course bleeding hearts like yourself would let them all out of jail and not see any capital punishment for murder, even if they killed the one you loved the most, and even if they were tortured, had their nipples ripped off with pliers and other horrible things. If you spent as much time studying as you do on GaG you would be way up ahead of a lot of people.
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What makes you a racist is saying “when some black sob comes to rape you” that’s what makes you a racist. And I never said anything about releasing anyone from jail, you just trying to change the topic because you know your wrong. Sucks to suck
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She used black as an example , since you were referring cops on blacks.
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Actually I didn’t say anything at all about black people nor did I specifically say I’m talking about black people, she’s just racist, it’s shows in the ignorant way she talks.
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but the video now shows he was saying "i can't breathe" before anyone knelt on his neck... so its not clear the actions of the police resulted in his death
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There have been multiple autopsies that has confined his death
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the autopsies did not agree his death cause was the knee on his neck
+1 ythe police officers were just doing their duty ! as the saying goes - don't do the crime if you can't do the time - ! anyone who commits a crime deserves to do their time in jail and if they do not get caught by man to go to jail , then God will step in and justice will be served ! thanks
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+1 yHe was still murdered. Boy I tell you, racist white people will look for anything to justify the killing of a black person/minority but the moment one of your favorite white celebrities or youtube influencer gets called out publicly for saying something racist whether it was present or past, suddenly everyone's taking things too far and "cancel culture" is just so toxic and we should just let them live. Meanwhile lets dig to find something in this black person's past so we can justify feeling it was okay that they were killed. It doesn't change the fact that this man died/was killed for no reason, when someone tells you I can't breath and you don't move your knee off someone's neck, then your intentions is to kill that person. George was murdered, and Chauvin deserved to go to jail. And that's that.
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ikr trump supporters smh.
+1 yAll it proves to me is that people should actually wait to hear all sides involved before deciding that they know exactly what happened. This DOES change the situation.
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Ex cop needs to die
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This so much. People jump onto the witchhunt train way too quickly rather than trying to analyse the situation rationally.
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@FakeName123 Those lunatics always act like they were the ones involved in the situation and interrogations. 99% of the time they literally know NOTHING! :’)
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Being able to consider ones view being wrong is a very useful trait. Unfortunately many people do not possess this. Reminds me of the experiment where people were given a test with different knowledge relate questions and most people thought they performed way better than they did... except those at the top of performance thinking they performed worse than they did.
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@888theGreat you're a dangerous and unstable person
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@Marilynjuana Your approach does not leave much opportunity to create chaos and looting opportunities. Hence, it's not so popular. Nobody cares about Floyd except for his family. It was never about that, Floyd's death was just convenient, even better that it was in the presence of the police.
In addition to hearing all sides, one should also consider all instances not just a handful. There have been several instances of black people killing people that doesn't make the mainstream media, because it doesn't support the current narrative. Moral of the story is: there's nothing to do about at this point. These BLM extremists will eventually be rounded up. - +1 y
@sp33d Completely agree. Some horrid footage has come out but obviously the media will not cover it since protesting criminals, especially of colour, do not fit the narrative. And the fact that this footage of Floyd had to be leaked is disgusting. It should have been public from the get go. In my country the footage still hasn't been published. Most have no idea.
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@Marilynjuana We seem to be from the same country :) Yes, I don't see this topic anywhere. Maybe as a small side-note, if anything. I also find the choice of words "leaked footage" weird. It should be just "footage", but maybe it's just semantics.
+1 yI'm not a BLM supporter but I am a practitioner of Boxing, MMA, and Krav Maga. There is absolutely no excuse for an officer to have his knee on the neck of someone he's trying to detain. Both sides were wrong, but cops are not supposed to be the judge, jury, and executioner of people they're arresting.
I don't care what's on the tape frankly, these cops fucked up and killed a man by using bad restraint techniques; they should still be in prison. And this is coming from someone that truly hopes he never has to do it, but is trained to bash a skull into concrete to defend myself and disarm armed combatants.10 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yStill doesn’t justify people around the world burning down cities, destroying shit. His criminal record still stands, holding a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach while she gets robbed. He had a bad record. The police officer was a douchebag as well. More reason why the police should follow the model of Scandinavia and reform should extend to prisons as well. I highly doubt any other person other than a black person could garner as much support since other groups of the human race aren’t nearly as easily manipulated as blacks (no offense) Why do you think George Soros allows his money to go into these groups? Then the extra money raised by BLM goes straight back into the DNC. Soros should be publicly executed for the entire world to watch
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+1 yDosent change anything for me. Yes, he had ample oppurtunity to comply which would have prevented whar happened. But he didn't need to die. The cops were too heavy handed in the way they dealt with it. It does go tk show the level of paranoia he had in how the police would deal with him. Not sure of this is from his previous dealings with police or a wider cultural mistrust
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There are allegations that the drugs he downed right before the cops approached him might have played a big role in his death. Who knows what the truth is at this point.
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I doubt to knee on his neck helped.
He was cuffed, can 4 police officers really not handle him without having to put any weight on his neck or chest to compress his breathing? Yhey have to he cautious, his behaviour was off, but once he's cuffed they ought to have it under control
+1 yWhen he claimed to be claustrophobic I would have chained his ankles and just make him walk to jail.
What a load of B. S. "I'm Claustrophobic".
A likely story, any criminal would make up some similar excuse not to go to jail.
He was a drug addict and a child molestor. Good riddance I say. His blood is on his own hands.22 Reply- +1 y
Did you see the video? He was nice to cops , showed no resistance , asked for mercy.
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@888theGreat uuuuh no resisted arrest and freaked out
+1 yNot really. I said it before that it looked like he was high on drugs and the entire situation including stress caused some form of heartattack or circulatory collapse - which the autopsy confirmed.
The Cops knee was on the side of his neck, not the front. At best it would've applied pressure on the artery and not the throat. But people jump to conclusions based on their ideological beliefs rather than taking a step back and trying to figure out what actually happened.30 Reply
+1 yNooe it doesn't change my mind. Cops know what they were doing. They chose to kill him the could've used all that force to put him in the car for whatever reason they were arresting him for.
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Also not saying murder is right but if anyone deserves it its rapist and child predators.
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Not him he didn't deserve this
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Clearly you haven't seen the video so it can't change your view. They got him back out of the car, because he was going insane in there and begging them to let him out, because he was claustrophobic and couldn't breathe even before anything was near his neck.
But glad you pretned you watched it. - +1 y
I did watch it lol Its still my opinion. Are you telling me that the cops are heros for killing this man? Let me tell you there are plenty people in the world who have health conditions. He was a little nutty but he could sit in a car he was in the car when they approached him. So if yojr referring to me saying they should've kept in the car instead of killing him. I can see what your saying because he doesn't feel comfortable and can't breathe but to me thats all the more reason why it was wrong to have put a knee in this man's neck for 7 minutes. I mean I don't know why my oppion matters so much to you anyway. If you don't see a problem with what happend then your just as bad as the cops.
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There's a lot of trolls on this post.
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That's why I am asking you, if you even watched the video. No, he could NOT sit in the car on HIS own statement he begged the cops to get out of it. For at least a whole minute he begged them. How can you say that, if you have watched the video? Makes no sense.
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So what is your point are you saying he deserved to die? Or are you bored and want to start a fight for no reason? You might not understand but people have different opinions all the time it doesn't mean one person is wrong or one person is right. Its simply a perspective.
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My point is calling you out on clearly not having paid attention to the video. You say the cops could've put him in the car - when Floyd clearly resisted going into the car for more than a minute yelling that he is claustrophobic and eventually also saying he can't breathe way before he was being teached anywhere close to his neck. Only _AFTER_ that the cops used more force.
This has nothing to do with "perspective", because those are facts that happen in the video. So you either are ideologically blinded or have not seen the video, because your statement is factually wrong and disproven by the video. That's my point. - +1 y
I saw all of that my oppion stays the same i still think what I said. It is oppion because not everyone thinks the same. I don't know what you get out of calling me out but if it makes you feel better that's great.
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he said "i can't breathe" before anyone knelt on his neck... don't you realize what that means?
he wasn't killed by police, he was having breathing problems before that - +1 y
@FakeName123 we all saw the vid. And yea BLM
Doesn't change much for me. We all knew George wasn't an angel, he did drugs and was combative but he didn't deserve to die. Fine, they had a lot of officers restraining him, and I could honestly even be okay with sitting on his neck so that he would pass out to make it easier to transport him BUT I just can not get behind keeling on a man's neck for 9 minutes while he's lays there unresponsive. you can't feel his chest move, he is no longer a danger, but they stay on top of him regardless.
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@Froyologirl Me? lol I don't support trump, I literally hate him.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 ythis changes everything for anyone who cares about facts. The one thing it doesn't change, is he shouldn't have been kneeled on, but it's hard to call it murder now and it's clearly not a race-based incident. But funny how people aren't even noticing he said he couldn't breathe before he was ever on the ground, he was resisting arrest, and he told them to put him on the ground because he didn't want to be stuck in the police car. Maybe the positive that will come from this, is it will inspire people to not take lethal doses of drugs like he did because nobody wants to get filmed acting like that.
10 ReplyIts sad people are incapable of being objective, to watch this video and your response be "doesn't justify killing him" is such a rudimental analysis you are causing problems. It clearly shows a drugged up criminal resisting arrest and police officers not "attacking an innocent black man in the street" but following produces until they ended up on the floor (not where the police officers wanted to be) the last thing you can honesty call this is murder.
41 ReplyIt doesn't change my viewpoint. I was always under the impression that he resisted arrest, which lead to him being on the ground, and I was always under the impression that kneeling in his neck was unnecessary and reckless. Had I been the type of person who assumes cops just randomly brutalize people for the hell of it, then my mind would have been changed, considering he very clearly resisted arrest for a long time.
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+1 yDoesn’t change my opinion on it at all.
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What was your viewpoint before, if you don’t mind me asking? (I’m not planning to debate any sides, I’m just curious what GAG’s viewpoints are.)
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Drugs or not no one deserves to be killed like that. Shit is and was gross.
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Ok, thanks for sharing 👍
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With all due respect, @Lyndsielee666, I wouldn't be so sure on what the cause for death is. There are allegations about Floyd ingesting a pan of fentanyl as he saw cops approach him. If he had not resisted, the cops MIGHT have been able to help by taking him to the hospital.
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Bag* of fentanyl, sorry, I can't type on Thursdays.
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The autopsy report showed that it was a knee to his knee suffocating him lmfao. My best friend overdosed on fentanyl last year so let’s not even get into that shit.
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@Lyndsielee666 I wouldn't trust anything the media reports anymore tbh. The fact that THIS video had to be LEAKED is disgusting, it should have been public from the start. I also didn't bring any friends into this, just saying what is alleged.
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@Marilynjuana mmm either way he didn’t deserve for someone to kneel on him for eight minutes but okay
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@Pliskin55 sure thing bud
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"The autopsy report showed that it was a knee to his knee suffocating him lmfao."
Yes. The autopsy report that the family commissioned. In the other one it says circulatory collapse due to a mixture of different drugs, covid AND stress. And in the video the guy said he couldn't breath way before anyone touched his neck. Did you even watch it? Because otherwise your view would've changed already. - +1 y
@FakeName123 sure thing bud.
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Spoken like a true loser who showcases a lack of of intellectual integrity.
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@FakeName123 nah I’m just not gonna argue with some triggered all lives matter ass bitch online 😘
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@Lyndsielee666 You got some valid arguments though. Think with your own head instead of following a movement with clueless lunatics like a sheep.
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@Lyndsielee666 The only person I see here that’s triggered would be you...
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@Conspiracy_Theorist not likely bud 😇
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You sure seem like it "bud".
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@Conspiracy_Theorist do I thought?
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Though*
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Do you thought? I mean I sure hope you think, if you don't think then you're useless.
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George Floyd was experiencing cardiopulmonary and psychological distress minutes before he was placed on the ground, let alone had a knee to his neck. He was saying he couldn't breathe minutes before being placed on the ground. George Floyd was foaming at the mouth as indicated in a transcript of the bodycam footage, which is indicative of a drug overdose.
The Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) allows the use of neck restraint on suspects who actively resist arrest, and George Floyd actively resisted arrest on two occasions, including immediately prior to neck restraint being used. The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExdS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect, and requires extreme restraint. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExdS suspects may die irrespective of force involved.
The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExdS. Restraining the suspect on his or her abdomen (prone restraint) is a common tactic in situations, and the white paper used by the MPD instructs the officers to control the suspect until paramedics arrive. Floyd’s autopsies by the Chief Examiner and Michael Baden revealed a potentially lethal concoction of drugs — not just a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl, but also methamphetamine.
Together with his history of drug abuse and two serious heart conditions, Floyd’s condition was exceptionally and unusually fragile. Chauvin’s neck restraint is unlikely to have exerted a dangerous amount of force to Floyd’s neck. Floyd is shown on video able to lift his head and neck, and a robust study on double-knee restraints showed a median force exertion of approximately approximately 105lbs.
People sure don't do their research do they? I'm sure you'll ignore what I said, every demonrat Leftist does. They only listen to their MASTERS. - +1 y
I know you're stressed out over all this, go back to drinking your Hot cup of Tea/coffee and watch your CNN ok? make sure you remind yourself to stay away from reality ok?
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@Conspiracy_Theorist you sound like you need a nap
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@Consipracy_Theories you talk about others listening to the Masters but you don’t know you are one of those blinded by the masters too, do you? Nah you don’t know. The fact that you don’t know you are a sheep too makes it really bad for you cause you think you are wise so you don’t know you need wisdom. You have knowledge but zero wisdom
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@JOHNBAKER003 I read literally nothing he wrote 😂 he was big mad over absolutely nothing 😴
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@Pliskin55 you’re triggered by a random on the internet but I’m the loser 🐸
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@Pliskin55 you sound mad, are you alright? Is it past your bedtime? 🥺
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its not clear he was killed by anyone, he said "i can't breathe" before they knelt on his neck... so it wasn't their actions causing him trouble breathing
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@007kingifrit sure thing chad
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why post at all if you're going to say such thoughtless responses? you really don't think for yourself
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So you think that was going to help him breathe better having someone kneeling on his neck. OK.
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@007kingifrit ooof you run the internet and all things people post now huh 😂 you’re trying to justify a cop kneeling on someone’s neck for eight minutes straight bro. Are you stupid?
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there are lots of good reasons to kneel on someone's neck for 8 minutes... like if there is a pandemic going and unconventional holds are necessary and the perp is hyped up on drugs
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@007kingifrit sure thing bud. You’re sounding awfully blue lives matter 😂😂😂
+1 yYes!! Once again the media manipulated public causing massive damage from rioting over not reporting the whole truth. I'm not saying he deserved to die! I'm only saying we deserved to know the whe truth.
The US media is nothing more than a propoganda machine50 Reply
+1 yNo it doesn't, just cements it, I was 99,9% sure that he wasn't complying with the directions he was given and was resisting. If he just got in the police vehicle he would still be alive. Here you have a great video why it is really important for everyone to comply.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/yfi3Ndh3n-g30 Reply
+1 yI continue to reserve judgement, as this is only an excerpt and not all that’s available to both the state and defense teams. There’s always more to the story, and we don’t have it all. Let the judicial system resolve it.
30 ReplyHe was resisting, he was being a nuisance to the officers, behaving erratically. I understand why the officers wanted to use force because he seemed more and more unstable as time went on. There is no evidence of any racial motivation in here. Sure some things could have been done better but that can be said about literally any police intervention.
20 ReplyI knew he was high, before. The CCTV footage was cut at times, so I didn't understand why he wasn't just taken to sober up and be done with it. Now, it's shown he didn't wanna get in the car. I don't really get why he wasn't forced in the car. He was under arrest and had the right to stfu!
As for my viewpoint - it doesn't change a whole lot. I understand now Floyd would be alive had the officers not been so soft and just put him in the damn car.10 ReplyHonestly this doesn't condone what the cop did to George Floyd I think we can all agree that that was messed up but I think we would have to wait for the autopsie to come out the lowest he can go is manslaughter I think if George Floyd died to a prior medical condition which means the cop at least assisted in his death because the cop could of helped him.
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it isn't fair to ask the cop to help him he couldn't have known. he used a normal hold in that situation
1.5K opinions shared on Trending & News topic. It reinforces my beliefs that the police murdered George Floyd.
50 ReplyThat sucks.. he was somewhat difficult and wouldn't freaking listen to the officers directions. The cop was initially patient until floyd lost it and the cop started losing his patience.
The outcome shouldve been different.. officer Chauvin shouldn't have continued to kneel on George when he said he couldnt breathe but George shouldve just stfu and listen.12 Reply- +1 y
To be fair, I'm certain that a lot of people experience intense anxiety when they are handcuffed and made to be put in the back of a police car. Many people feel anxious when they are just in the same place a policeman is.
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@Whatthefluff for your average non criminal sure, but george had a history and he knew he got caught.
+1 yBeing bad a playing simon says does not warrant being murdered in my eyes.
60 ReplyThis video don't really change anything. The way he died was kinda wrong. But This man deserved a death sentence so he got what was coming to him. Anyone who points a gun at innocent pregnant lady. Is in my book worthy of death.
10 ReplyThere is no excuse for what the officer that was murder that's what is wrong with the system how many mass shooters get taken in by police without being treated like that because they are white no more excuses
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+1 yMy opinion was always that George Floyd was resisting arrest, cooperation, and had possibly taken something to suffocate before the police knew. And highly unlikely to be racially motivated.
This body footage now confirms that i'm truly glad it exists. The BLM protests were not justified. The worst part is that the bystanders had him out to be innocent and that's why many do not feel safe in black neighbourhoods.00 Reply429 opinions shared on Trending & News topic. Interesting. Doesn't really show anything other than George being extremely paranoid but I also don't know why he was being arrested.
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Fair enough. The official reasoning for the detainment/arrest was in regards to Floyd allegedly using a $20 counterfeit bill.
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"The police officers now facing charges over the murder of Floyd were responding to a 911 call from a local grocery store, who said they suspected George Floyd had used a counterfeit $20 bill to buy cigarettes.
The attending officers found a man fitting the suspect's description, Floyd, aged in his 40s, in a car, according to a police department account. After Floyd exited the vehicle, the department said, the officers handcuffed him. Floyd refused to enter the police car, saying he suffered from claustrophobia, at which point the police officers forced him to the ground where they held him down and Chauvin knelt on his neck."
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How could the have been in his own car if he has claustrophobia? Seeing as that was his excuse for not getting in the police car.
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@Nachowedgie yeah I also noticed that when I was watching the video.
Nope. What the police did were wrong. There was no need for how they behaved. He was distressed, anxious and under the influence, but to me, he was never a threat to them.
10 Reply311 opinions shared on Trending & News topic. The state isn't allowed to kill anyone until after they have been sentenced to death in a fair trial. That's really all there is to it.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yDid he deserve to die? Obviously not. But he was a known criminal. I don't know what the officers' prior dealings with Mr. Floyd were. That definitely plays a role in how they approached him and treated him in this incident. If you deny that, you're naive. What you do matters.
As Spike Lee said, "Do the right thing."10 Reply- 356 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
+1 yNope, still a scumbag
The neck thing was too much, 2 in the head would been more effective and no one would care about the case after a week maybe 2 in local media22 Reply- +1 y
People get shot everyday and in your version the army would be involved to take out the pesky protesters so maybe it would be better
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+1 yYes, I figured he cursed them, but he begged them not to kill him and the cop did. The cop should publicly executed. Even though I am against capital punishment , I think maybe hanging would be appropriate in this case.
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Maybe a slow death, by adding weight a little bit at a time. A clean break would be to nice.
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Some say the Holocaust was fake, even with pics and the testimonies of the liberators of the camps.
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@Daniela1982 Well the real argument is that the liberated camps were never death camps, just work camps and the reason the prisoners were starving and dying of typhus was because of Allied bombing the German railroads for months, making it impossible to keep the camps adequately supplied.
What's funny is that the so-called "death camps" all had hospitals, swimming pools, tennis courts, movie theaters, and even maternity wards for the prisoners. Highly unusual if the purpose of the camps was to systematically liquidate them all.
Nobody says that the entire holocaust was completely fabricated, the argument is that the numbers of victims and the true nature of the prison camps have been wildly exaggerated beyond all proportion and unfortunately, there's a lot of solid evidence to back it up.

The fact that you don't even know what the real arguments are is proof that you're getting all your information on a complex issue from one side which has a vested interest in suppressing and obfuscating the debate. The same side that has made it completely ILLEGAL is dozens of countries to question or investigate the Holocaust, including every single one of the countries where the camps are located. This doesn't exactly bespeak of their honesty or trustworthiness.
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@bananaman177 There were plenty of Allied soldiers that saw it all when they liberated the camps, along with ample photographic proof. They even marched German citizens in the town to view the decomposing bodies and see the bones in the crematorium. I find it a cruel joke to say they had movie theaters, tennis courts, and pools. You are either a troll or a dumb ass. Maybe both. You will also probably say the Malmady massacre never took place or that the SS were polite and treated everyone with respect.
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@Daniela1982 What the Allied soldiers saw was a camp full of starving people who had wasted away to almost skeletons and were dying of typhus. Which is exactly what you would see if you visited a prisoner camp that hadn't been able to get anywhere near enough supplies to feed thousands of people for a period of over a year. Which is exactly what happens when you repeatedly bomb the railroads and factories that supplied the camps.
And the camps really did have medical and entertainment and recreation facilities for the prisoners to use. The fact is, we will never know what actually happened because so many different people have been spreading so much bullshit around for so many decades, especially thousands and thousands of fake holocaust survivors who wrote fake memoirs about it recalling all kinds of ridiculous contraptions the Nazis used to kill Jews like something out of a slasher movie.
Real facts and real evidence about the holocaust is almost impossible to come by, but falsified information is so pervasive, it's about the only kind of information you can actually find. - +1 y
I only suspected you were an idiot, now You have shown me you really are. Photographic proof does not lie. You can look at it any way you want, but it happened. You just don't want to admit that people could be that cruel. Just look around you and read the news. They are!
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@Daniela1982 Actually, photographic evidence lies all the time, it's one of the easiest and most effective ways to lie because people don't question what they see with their own eyes, but they'll attack anyone who tries to make them question it.



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Well, seeing your photos won't totally convince me, but they do throw suspicion how real it all was. But why would they lie about it all? As it was the US helped put Germany back together again after @bananaman177the war and our half of Berlin fared a lot better than the Russian side. What would anyone have to gain by faking such stuff? The Germans and Japanese already lost the war. So why would they show faked pics when most of the German war criminals get off with light prison sentences and few were even executed anyway. None of that makes any sense. What are your thoughts?
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@Daniela1982 Why would they lie? For hundreds of billions of dollars and unlimited global political capital forevermore.
That's the EASIEST part to figure out. - +1 y
How did that give them money?
458 opinions shared on Trending & News topic. George was definitely fucked up that day. But the deciding factor in it all was the stubborn ass of a cop who persisted in kneeling on his neck even after he was clearly under control.
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i don't know what the criteria is for "under control" but if they got off of him he might have resisted agin
+1 yI was one of the people back when this started that said there was more to this story than was being reported, and ohh look guesse who was right
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+1 yProof that he wasn’t being threatening and the cop pulled out a gun on him and he was killed for no reason
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he resisted arrest and needed to be restrained, and the cops didn't kill him, he died from complications that were related to his drug overdose
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@007kingifrit you clearly did not watch any of the footage but okay
Well it did look like he was on crack. I mean technically speaking he was resisting arrest. Now the amount that he was resisting justify the right to kill him? No it didn't.
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+1 yNot really. He was restrained,. This means that the charges should be less than murder or at least the option for manslaughter should be addeds. If not, acquittal and more riots. Yay.
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+1 yI mean everyone resists arrests no one wants to go to jail.
But police can't kill people for resisting arrest31 Reply- +1 y
I didn't see him resist
I feel quite sorry for the police to have to deal with people like him...
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