Does the Mainstream Media try to frame independent journalists & other influencers who question the status quo?

[Anonymous]

I'm thinking of the likes of Joe Rogan, Andrew Tate, Russell Brand with millions of followers and millions watching daily on a tiny YouTube channel that's basically videoed in their front room with minimal staff, meanwhile CNN with an army of employess gets maybe 200k a day if they lucky.

Joe Rogan questioned the vaccine during Covid then CNN & the rest sponsored by Pfizer came for him. Andrew Tate is another talking against young men not submitting to the matrix control so they are continually trying to get him jailed in Romania for sex trafficing despite no evidence or victims. Tucker Carlson spoke out against the war in Ukraine for us profit and got fired. Jordan Peters on has spoken some pretty real home truths about society and modern female behaviour and they call for his head. Trump though convicted of no rape isn't even allowed to say he's innocent despite the accusations coming from a Liberal journalist who according to her book was raped by every man she ever met., why because Trump ran against the first female presidential candidate and won. Tulsi Gabbard to, she was basically forced out of the democrat party for speaking the truth, recently she mentioned the great land heist going on during the recent natural disaster in Hawai. Now they've come for Russell Brand because he's touched on a lot of subjects the establishment don't want mentioned & he has 3 million followers. I'd also point out that the Mainstream Media is owned by a handful of very wealthy individuals.

[Sabretooth]

there's a lot to unpack here but, I'll start with Rogan and Peterson. Rogan and Peterson are not smart and here's 2 examples:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/N_ADtoO-f0Qhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/xCsaEItN_4s

Peterson uses fancy words and ''deep'' sounding formula of speaking so he sounds like he's an intellectual... but, if you really listen to him--you'd know he's not. Carlson is a liar both by his own lawyers admission and his own: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1EP5H4gFDV0

as for T

as for Trump, a jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million dollars. Tulsi Gabbard is full of shit. she claims that she left because: ''It's now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers, driven by cowardly wokeness..." yet, is in the pocket of the defense industry, expressed support for increasing the use of drone strikes, and hinted that she would consider using torture if she thought it was necessary. https://medium.com/arc-digital/tulsi-gabbard-is-not-anti-war-660e7d1e4ce1 Russell Brand has been accused by 4 women of Rape: https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/9/18/23878706/russell-brand-sexual-assault-allegations Tate discussed tactics on how to lure girls for trafficking: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12343669/Andrew-Tate-leaked-texts.html

[strateguy632]

but if the accusation start after he said the unpopular opinion...

[Sabretooth]

@strateguy632 what about Farron Cousins? David Pakman? Jessy Dollemore? TYT? they've all gone after those in power but haven't been arrested. what about Andrew Cuomo? Andrew Cuomo was highly respected and the Democrat darling and I greatly respected him for saying
Andrew Cuomo said that'd be happy not to be reelected if it meant saving lives and I even defended him about him putting COVID patients in old folks homes because I understood his situation... that all ended after the sexual assault allegations' and now, no one speaks of him

[KostasKouvalis]

Alex Jones, Lauren Southern, Tommy Robinson. So many others. There's no doubt in my mind and anyone with a brain can see this.

They're scared of people knowing the truth, or at the very least questioning things, because it jeopardizes their own careers and personal agendas. But it's probably their own personal careers they're more worried about. The official reason Tucker got canned was because he allegedly exchanged text messages with several of his co-hosts and producers claiming he didn't actually believe the election was rigged, but reported it anyways. But we all know the REAL reason. He has been taking a lot of "time off" before he got canned, and it's exactly for the reasons you said. His views didn't align with that of the network. He went rogue, and I think collaborating with Lauren Southern also did him in. But his co-workers had been trying to get rid of Tucker for years, because they were jealous that he had the highest ratings out of any mainstream news host. In the end, it's all about ego. So called mainstream "journalists" who had been in the business for years couldn't bare the thought of being pushed out by some guy in his living room with a laptop and a gopro. It's very sad honestly

[Sabretooth]

People suffered from Jones's lies. Parents were harassed and graves were defiled: apnews.com/.../shootings-school-connecticut-alex-jones-waterbury-782e495a3ece4753d857a9b47d444385 www.itsonsitetv.com/.../ these people are animals.

[KostasKouvalis]

Like rightists were never threatened or attacked because of Leftist conspiracies

[Anonymous]

Apart from Andrew and Russell I have no idea who the others are.

Regarding Russell, I think there may be some truth behind the allegations and he is guilty. Look at how he grabbed Katherine McPhee. You could tell Katherine wasn't 100% comfortable and Jimmy had to tell him to stop. Other celebrities years ago never wanted to be around him. I think Rod Stewart called him out years ago as well. Russell was genuinely getting called out years ago, but it just wasn't making headline news like today.

Something definitely also happened between him and Katy Perry. Go watch her documentary that was filmed around the time off her marriage being over. There was also a song she wrote at the time, where the song seems to talk about someone hurting her and her not wanting to be here anymore.

Andrew is not some victim either who is being targeted for speaking out about whoever. He is being targeted because he is a disgusting human pos and his ass needs to be locked up. He reminds me of R Kelly.

[Drewtate]

Katy Perry isn't a very nice person. Brand is a crap comedian who made his fame shocking people ie casually mentioning he banged rod Stewarts daughter in front of him at an awards but that's an act and comedians often go too far

[inhua]

Tate's targeting was very time specific especially after the BBC snake Matt Shea backstabbed the Tate brothers even though cops already came to their house before and found nothing except video proof of their accuser lying about being human trafficked.

the "victims" didn't even go the cops but went straight for the media and won't even show their face much less appear in court to testify against the Tate brothers.

there's no jury to determine their guilt or innocence because frankly the evidence against the Tate brothers is so weak the jury would declare them innocent. it's only the Tate brothers, their lawyer, the judge and a piece of paper as "evidence"

same goes for Juliann Assange after he exposed worldwide government corruption and suddenly these false rape accusations come out of nowhere

notice how they target specific people including Jordan Peterson and Brett Kavanagh yet they don't dare to question Justin Trudeau or Joe Biden and their misconduct

[Drewtate]

@inhua the BBC even have a journalistic documentary hit piece "how the tates groomed the world". Specifically used the word groomed, even though it has no application, its meant to grab you and assume their guilt

[inhua]

@Drewtate Tate just spoke the truth and these simpletons believed he "groomed" the world

they somehow believe Tate is responsible for the red-pill. fun fact, the red-pill existed long before Tate came along only this time, there's a famous guy speaking on it

for years, mainstream media believed anyone who was red-pilled was a loser even though the most successful people are actually red-pilled and use the red-pill to stay on top while the other blue-pill losers are too busy calling each other a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, bigot etc.

[Drewtate]

@inhua all true. My point is the word groomed
Groom
brush and clean the coat of (a horse, dog, or other animal).
"the horses were groomed and taken to shows"
.(of an animal) clean the fur or skin of (itself or another animal).
"their main preoccupation is licking and grooming themselves"
give a neat and tidy appearance to (someone).
"keeping oneself groomed is important and can have a positive impact on one's attitude.
look after (a lawn, ski slope, or other surface).
"groom your lawn—keep the grass cut"
2.
prepare or train (someone) for a particular purpose or activity.
"star pupils who are groomed for higher things"
form a relationship with (a child or young person) with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization.
"he groomed a 14-year-old girl online while pretending to be a former soldier"

I mean these are journalists who supposedly have various masters degrees and picked the most shocking word they could think of. I'm part of the world and Andrew Tate hasn't brushed my coat.

[inhua]

@Drewtate if there's any grooming going on, it comes from the mainstream liberals news media, pop culture, social media, peer pressure, academia and the public school indoctrination camps

you got parents out there literally trying to convert their son into a daughter

[davado88]

We the ordinary peasants have absolutely no power. We can't protect our rights in law or obtain self government parliament-wise.
We are lemmings without the sense yo realise our predicament.
The false advocates of alternative media are presented to us to mollify anger at losing all our rights and various inustices.
They never achieve anything but that doesn't seem to occur to us.
People are pretty fn stupid i suppose.
All we can do is indulge in hedonism until the whole shitshow goes up in flames.
And to that end ill watch lesbian porn and have a ciggie

[Nikki1989]

I don't care who does it, but creeps need to be called out. It is disturbing how so many people are quick to defend these sickos.

[Asker]

Why are they sickos?

[Exterminatore]

Way to go Nikki. Just ignore the topic of media propaganda and turn this into some #metoo BS.

[Drewtate]

@Exterminatore do you know they've demonetisatised Tate and Brand on YouTube but R Kelly continues to make money off his YouTube videos and unlike Tate and brand who's accusations are vague and lacking in evidence he is not only convicted but there's actual evidence including a sextape he made with a 12 year old girl, even passing on her. The Grammy award he won that night is even in the video.

[Exterminatore]

@drew

That’s amazing. That makes it clear this is a tool for the establishment to use to silence those they choose.

[Exterminatore]

Absolutely. First they try to do a character assassination, as with Russell Brand. If that doesn’t work, imprison them like Julian Assange. If that doesn’t work they give them a dirt nap like they did with the Kennedy brothers.


It has been rightly said: “there are no countries, only corporations.” Anyone who exposes the corruption of governments, corporations, and ultimately the heads of both, band the main stream media who is paid to spread propaganda will be silenced. They are globalists who want to establish complete control over all on the earth with a one world government, economy, and religious system and anyone exposing this and the lies will have at the least a smear campaign conducted on them if they have credibility.


Watch this, and check out more of his videos to understand what’s really going on. He does an excellent job of beaking it all down in a sensible and easy to understand way.

https://youtu.be/iGt6tu3fp_U?si=54C1lc3MN4L9ZIxu

[Exterminatore]

@irish

Also forgot to say you’re spot on in your assertions.

[Lliam]

Absolutely. The corporate media ownership is linked to the deep state (unelected, shadow government), and those organizations and elites who control the globalist agenda.

Corporate media, from CNN, MSNBC, Fox, NPR, WaPo, the NYT, and every other outlet, not to mention Wikipedia, Google, Meta, etc. pushes one, unified agenda. That goes for news and entertainment.

Notice the single narrative on things like covid, climate change and Ukraine. And there are issues that they never mention at all. They don't want the public to think or to question anything.

Even Senate hearings and CDC information that sheds questions about the desired narrative is blocked.

Honest, internationally renown scientists, doctors and researchers who tried to reveal their findings on covid and the jabs were blocked, banned, censored, mocked, slandered, threatened and fired.

Try looking up Vanessa Beeley or Eva Karene Bartlett, honest, independent journalists who reported and continue to report the truth about Syria, Palestine and Ukraine. They are baselessly accused of being Antisemites and Russian employees.

Armies of investigators, trolls and shills are employed to take down anyone who threatens the goals of entities like pharma, Zionists, the banking establishment, big ag, and the entire the globalist cabal, that have unimaginable wealth and power.

[strateguy632]

most of what you said makes sense but zionists already "got back" their historical homeland so i don't know what you imagine zionist goals are? protocols of elders?

[Lliam]

@strateguy632. You obviously know nothing about Zionism.

[blueonblack22]

The British government is sending letters to social media companies and video hosting websites asking them to take down and/or demonetized Russell Brand’s videos. That is absolutely f*cking insane. Scary Orwellian insane. He hasn’t even been officially charged with a crime yet.

The worst part of all of this is it takes away from the justice the Russel Brand accusers could have. Personally I think most of them are full of sh*t. But there was one allegation that has hard evidence behind it.

But now people like Russel Brand can claim he is part of a victim of a coordinated attack. Which is obviously true. But he can also use that as a defense to escape any real accusations.

The bottom line is the Orwellian power structure does NOT care about bringing justice to sexual assault victims. That’s a facade.

You feminists out there you need to stop giving knee jerk support to what people like Russell Brand is experiencing unless it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt he is guilty. When you do this then the real abusers out there know they can cover up their bs just as long they spew a certain media affirmed ideology. Then the victims of those abusers will never see justice.

THINK about what is going on here. Think it all the way through.

[PositiveFlight]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. The main stream media are absolutely as corrupt as it gets. The freedom of speech and freedom of the press are no longer truly in affect. What we have is corrupt public/private partnerships of what’s supposed to be limited government which has made itself unlimited which picks the winners/losers within a quasi corporate field of the media and pharmaceuticals. Its all about censorship and propaganda in order to mentally condition everyone into compliance with the narrative of their agenda. Which is exactly what the World Economic Forum is trying to establish worldwide. The complete destruction of nations, destruction of the US constitution and bill of rights, removal of personal liberty/sovereignty, and empowerment of unlimited global governance.

[strateguy632]

that is the agrnda about "familiarized people with getting censored on facebook" that is spreading everywhere like cancer. even in whatsapp and microsft document share i can "report" to the meta facebook zuckerberg police or Microsoft police... who are not real entities.

[inhua]

yes they absolutely do and they're not even trying to hide it at this point. they're even laughing in the face of the public masses of sheep who believe them

Juliann Assange is the biggest recipient of this after he exposed worldwide government corruption

but when you can't combat the truth, you must create a lie to distract the masses from the truth hence false accusations of criminal activity

[KrakenAttackin]

Independent journalist are a real threat to the MSM. If you look at surveys, the public has very little trust in the MSM (rightfully so).

Now with myriad platforms other then television, independent journalist can be heard and average people can make their own choices.

Frankly, the whole profession of "journalism" has been nothing by indoctrination and propaganda for decades. People have been craving a change.

[Exterminatore]

Damn right bro!

[DarkWinterNights]

Absolutely. We still don’t know who was on Epstein’s list, who assassinated him in prison, how Maxwell got such a good plea deal but we treat decades old anonymous accusations with enough credibility to absolutely destroy peoples reputations literally overnight. It’s disgusting.

[strateguy632]

if true say it the same month it happened. but they can't lie "he did bad now" so theh find someone willing to accuse sbout the past. anc make excuses to cen sor nonsense whatever they consider to be nonsense or insensitive despite necessary conversation.

[Anonymous]

No. I think people confuse being unhinged with "free-thinking." Rogan didn't question the vaccine. He spread misinformation and lies with no supporting evidence, which literally got people killed.

Andrew Tate wasn't arbitrarily jailed. He did, factually, engage in human trafficking and it was proven in court.

No, Tucker Carlson was not fired for not supporting aide for Ukraine. He was fired for spreading white supremacist rhetoric, misinformation, and openly advocating for violence against minorities and people he didn't like for political reasons.

They're uneducated assholes and criminals. The media reports news. It doesn't have the ability to create it. They did that themselves through their own actions.

[loveslongnails]

LOL Joe Rogan did nothing but spread misinformation about the vaccines, and when he didn't know something, he made it up. That's not unusual for Joe. Sometimes he interviews people who are experts in their field and still argues with them as if he's knowledgeable.

For some reason, you gravitate towards those who bloviate in favor of liars like Trump, thinking he and them are getting a "raw deal" from CNN or MSNBC. You seem to think Trump and his supporters are "victims", when the truth is his entire cabal did nothing but destroy anyone who isn't wealthy, or who wanted to limit his power.

By the way, all of those "news outlets" are owned by either Black Rock or Vanguard, and they couldn't care less about the accuracy of one side vs the other. It's all good for business. Some of us, however, do care about facts and don't make up our own.

[BarryLiverstone]

Media wants clicks to get advertisers to pay them, just like the “independent” journalists. It’s all about drama to create a buzz and sell soap. So yes it’s framing in a sense but the journalists are also not reporting news in good faith so it’s all part of the circus.


I heard stories of when my grandparents went to a circus as kids to be entertained. This is our modern day circus, but some popcorn and enjoy.

[RealMarek]

The MSM can’t compete on a level playing field so they get a lot of donations from tech companies, government, etc. and these entities collude with them to destroy independent competitors.

[strateguy632]

if the independent get many views that makes a target to try discredit.

[Surely]

This is very obvious. When the main stream is proven wrong. There is no rebuttal, apology or even “We F$$ked Up!”
The cackling hens on the View, can spew all their ideas and lies and never apologize to anyone!

[Anonymous]

Oh most definitely. Crazy all these other nuts like the view can say random, crazy shit but not be held accountable for what they say. Like claiming Jason Al dean’s song promoted violence. It’s all part of an agenda. If you don’t play by their rules they’re going to try to take you out.

[007kingifrit]

they attack anyone who doesn't push their narrative. that's why we don't call them mainstream media anymore. we call them old media, they are out of date and trying to preserve their aristocratic hegemony of information

[FunkyMonkee]

As long as you're NOT on their side pushing their bullshit, or if you're trying to report the truth, they'll try to fuck you over.

[Drewtate]

Absolutely. A lot of money was made off of covid by the vaccine companies not just Pfizer though. This how corrupt America is I'm afraid. America is every bit the oligarchy Russia is expect American Oligarchs are smarter.

[Exterminatore]

We’re way more corrupt than them.

[Summeroflove]

Unfortunately. Most of them got where they are by back stabbing and throwing people under the bus. It’s all okay until someone does it to them.

[fuddly]

You are on dodgy ground with this
I don't think a man would get away with posting it
I don't think we can excuse the behaviour of men you mention
Why now? Maybe the mainstream media
But i don't think they are any more coordinated than the off beat media

[Levin]

That is the suspicion. by the way, I think your last image is supposed to be making fun of so called conspiracy theorists though. I mean, to be fair, it's technically not a crime.

[MJtheCoach]

all the staff working for Mainstream Media should be forced to get all the c0vid jabs one after another!! Hold their arms and give them those 98 jabs so they'll stay safe.