do women really think really negative of these guys?
I always heard that women like bad boys because supposedly they always what to be that "special one" who changed that bad boy, etc. but oh well if that myth was true wouldn't it be easier to change an MGTOW guy? I mean after all MGTOW guys are not bad boys, they aren't advocate of violence against women, they are just guys who know there are a lot of better things to live for in this life
I cannot fully answer your question but as you can see by my username I do kinda live that lifestyle. In fact I lived like this before I ever heard about this movement. At the same time I do not consider myself a bad boy.
I always felt that women were trying to change me even when we had everything. Especially when it comes to jobs which were always in event organizing and other entertainment industry jobs. They paid more than most jobs but for some reason women wanted me to get a regular 9 to 5 job that paid less.
My friends in the same industry did change for women but then lost them when for those women "mission was accomplished". So happy I never did. A lot of women will probably say that it just wasn't meant to be but I think that is bullshit. I also know that it is never enough for women. After this there will be something else they want changed.
I'm glad I never gave in. It gave me the chance to live the way I want to. I have no ties, I have no kids and the wonderful things I have experienced I could never have done with a wife that doesn't act like a partner in what you do.
Not saying this life is for everybody. But it sure is for me.
MGTOW has become a lonely hearts’ club for the refuse of the male species. Not only are most Virgins Going Their Own Way personally repellent losers, their “philosophy” is completely wrongheaded.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with going your own way, and doing your own thing. No one is faulting anyone for that. The problem is that some guys take a good thing too far. The valid principle of "going your own way" slowly but surely morphs into something else: give-up-itis.
Give-up-itis is a disease. It is a complete withdrawal from the responsibilities of life. And there is a sizeable component of guys out there who dignify their giving up on life with the alleged embrace of some higher principles. That's all we're saying.
There is a cloud that hangs over the head of the MGTOW clan. I know there are a lot of sincere, good guys there, but perceptions do matter. And the whole MGTOW philosophy is just too susceptible to abuse by quitters who are looking for a safety blanket.
Men need a philosophy of life that is action-oriented, so that his natural tendencies to backslide are kept in check.
Yes, absolutely, as long as his idea of gender equality doesn't mean he won't still treat me well and be polite. Some people go overboard. Also, I do hope to be a stay at home mom while my kids are young, so he would have to be okay with that. Basically it depends how extreme he is.
I can see where these MGTOW guys are coming from, but they take it too far and don't have a logical argument for many of their points. I feel like this group is the natural response to how feminism is going down a bad path in some countries.