An Open Letter To The Holy Virgin And The Smart Slut

[Anonymous]

The Holy Virgin

A girl torn from reality thanks to religion, Disney, or the rationalisation of her complete lack of sex drive into something special. She is holier than thou and she knows it. She will not let any man get near her vagina before marriage and it makes her better...Than you. Though you may get some a-hole depending on the possible loopholes in her obviously superior moral code. She "respects herself". This creature is most common in religion influenced parts of the world and is rapidly being replaced by The Smart Slut.

The Smart Slut

She is rational, down to earth, brave, living life to the fullest and know what she wants. She believes there is no merit to any kind of thought, or feeling being accounted for when considering whether to engage into sexual intercourse. Strong believer women can fuck like men. Any girl who doesn't is obviously asexual, repressed, arrogant and has no idea how sex, love and feelings work because she didn't have a piece of man-meat stuck in their vagina. Most commonly found in the Western hemisphere, but most loudly promoted by American culture.

Ladies, please listen.

I'm here to offer love, truce, peace and acceptance with one simple sentence:

For the love of god, shut the fuck up already.

Thank you. :)

Sincerely,
A regular, confused, sane and a sexual girl, way too tired of your insecurities and superiority-complex bullshit.

PS. To all the male keyboard sages out there who know exactly what men and women need: please, shut the fuck up as well. If you really did know you would have said it already, and these two bitches wouldn't be spamming my life.

Thank you. :)

[xHoneyxBeex]

hahaha! oh my gosh, I love this. It's so true. I'm sick of some "holier than thou" virgins acting like they're better than others simply because they lack sexual experience. I really wish they would grow up and get over themselves.

I'm also sick of some non-virgins acting like sex makes you "cool" and pressuring others to have sex too. Peer pressure is, in fact, not cool. They need to realize that not everyone wants to have sex with just anyone, some people attach a more meaningful importance to the concept of "sex" and that's okay too.

In my opinion, the decision to have sex is a personal decision and I don't care if someone wants to sleep around or wait until they're married to have sex. However, I don't appreciate all the judgmental attitudes and superiority complexes coming from both ends of the spectrum. People need to lighten up and realize that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if someone is a virgin or not, everyone should just mind their own business.

[xHoneyxBeex]

Reading the comments here... I think a lot of people completely missed the sarcasm in the 'smart slut' part of this take. Lol

[TheWiseOwl]

I probably come across as the Holier-than-thou Virgin male and well I couldn't really care less, I have my views on promiscuous people and I am not afraid to air those views even if it offends certain men and women.

If a woman wants to have lots of sex, I won't shame her, try and stop as I have no right to do so, it's her life, her body and quite frankly it's none of my business and doesn't affect me.

Just as long as those women stay well away from me and do not come near me for friendship or anything else then it's all chips and gravy with me.

[Red_Dragon]

Yeeah but I think I've heard you shame them before.

[TheWiseOwl]

I'll think you find I haven't.

[scarygoodyr34]

Your article was a sexist one.
When we divide people by either referring to our opinion of their worth as either being virgins or sluts, we are demeaning, degrading, and devaluing them as individuals. Individuals should be mainly perceived by others and respected by others for their accomplishments in society, like academics, sports, work, charity for example, or finding a cure for cancer or another horrible disease, or just by being a good friend to someone who needs someone to talk to.
Sluts aren't women who are sex maniacs or addicted with sex. Sometimes people stupidly throw that word around casually like it's not disrespectful or like it's not a sexist term. I think worse of the man who overhears his very young daughter say the word "slut" randomly in public and the father just keeps walking and ignores the child when he should be a good role model for the young kid to teach her respect for others and not judge someone automatically before you actually get to know the person. I think that's more important than promoting sexism and superficiality.
How many people you have slept with or haven't slept with in the end, I don't think should matter so much. Everyone lives their lives the way they want to.

[Azara]

This was a very good response. down to earth and logica.

She's anke to articulate her views without resorting to character assination terms like feminazi and explicatives.

[Scrambled]

"Everyone lives their lives the way they want to"? Bullshit. Some people can't, ugly men can't be p*rn stars (whether they want to), I can't attract pretty girls (even though I would like to) I would like to study at Oxford (cant do that). You speak of ideals and not the real world.

[scarygoodyr34]

oh. I must be a dumb individual because I believe in equality and respect for other people.
I'm not a feminazi, and I think self-victimization is wrong. I just get annoyed at extreme opposites and annoyed at labels in regards to people (like your article pointed out: by mentioning slut and virgin).
But I do agree with some parts in your article, although I don't agree with all of it. I just took slight offense to your comment in the article about "the virgin feeling holier than thou". I'm a virgin and I don't think my lack of sex makes me better than other people or makes me a bad individual. It's just a choice.

[myTake Owner]

No you're a dumb individual because you suggest I divide all women into all these groups instead of realising I'm talking about 2 groups that don't encompass all women.

That's why you're a moron and so are all the people who whined about the same thing you're whining about. Everything has to spelled out for you retards.

[scarygoodyr34]

I realize that those 2 groups don't encompass all women. I was suggesting that I don't agree with people who are prejudice towards women because of what women choose to do with their bodies or if they are still virgins. Unless I just misunderstood your entire article--if your article's main point was to illustrate how ridiculous people are when they divide women into 2 groups and not see them as individuals, then I agree with that. I agree that that is a ridiculous thing to do.

[myTake Owner]

My point was that it's ridiculous when women who belong to either one of the two groups I described look down on others and try to shame them into becoming just like them.

[heart_of_gold]

Who do you think you are? You cannot judge anyone because of what they choose to do with their body and their lives. Just because I, for example, choose not to spread my legs and mount every piece of man meat I see, or just because I simply don't have interest in having sex with someone I meet until I get married does not give you the right to judge me or anybody else. Now if you're being judged by someone who is in your above previously described, extremely hateful and biased comment, that's not the rest of the people who choose not to have sex until after marriages fault. Obviously you don't like being judged so don't come on here judging the rest of the people you know absolutely NOTHING about. Keeping the peace my behind. But I guess even Hitler thought what he was doing was right. I don't think I'm better than anybody, and I certainly don't have a, "Holier than art thou" mind set.

[heart_of_gold]

Sweetheart there is nothing intelligent about this article for me to be unable to understand. Don't flatter yourself, or trick yourself into thinking that because you can rant and import pictures of virgin Mary and Miley Cirus that you are anymore intelligent than sheep running to the slaughter even after they've seen all the sheep before get their heads chopped off.

[myTake Owner]

There is nothing intellectual about this article, yet you still failed to understand it. Yes.
Be ashamed.

[heart_of_gold]

Let me just stop engaging in conversation with you. Your idiocy would require me to drop down quite a few levels to be able to have a worthwhile discussion with you.

[EyeSeaYew]

That moment when an under 18 calls an adult sweetheart.

Seriously, though, the take owner is right. It should be clear that this is not to be taken at face value. The fact that you did take it at face value technically does mean you're not smart enough to understand this article.

But that's none of my business. *sips tea*

[FatherKnowsBest]

Don't argue with an 18 year old. Don't you know that they know everything! 😊

[heart_of_gold]

Both of you need to stop.. stop acting like she just decided to start typing this up, and didn't mean anything by it. It is clearly biased. Look at what she said about the virgin and the slut. Or are you truly the ones who need a lesson in taking this at, "face value". As far as you insinuating that I'm you're typical "I think I know it all" teenager, I'm not. I'm not foolish enough to think that, and neither should you be. Don't overlook me and stick your nose up like you're above me and know better than me because you have more years on this earth than I. Wisdom doesn't always come with age, you two including the take owner are all examples of that. Yes I called her sweetheart. And in the sassy way you're probably assuming I meant it in. And? If your're getting at the fact that she deserves some degree of respect, takes respect to get respect. I don't care how old you are. ESPECIALLY when you start attacking a whole group of people. Please. Save it.

[Izzy2102]

"shut the fuck up already." you should have taken your own advice because for someone tells people not to judge women based on their sexuality you do quite a good job at it. Your descriptions are biased and judgmental.

So you have to be close minded, religious, holier than thou and have no sense of reality to be a virgin or sleep with only few men? And just everything is great about sleeping around?
That's just BS and as I said judgmental

I didn't have sex until I was in college and since then I've only slept with one guy, my fiance and I'm very happy with that. i don't to sleep with more men, that doesn't make me a stuck up bitch.
And I've seen my friends hook up a lot and it's not all great, they had to deal with a lot heartbreak and regret. If you think that the high is worth the pain, fine but judge other for not thinking the same way

[amphet11]

What she doesn't understand is that the more sexual partners a women has the more she devalues herself as relationship material, refer to my post above as to why. I am sure you your relationship with your fiance will be stronger because of your lack of sexual promiscuity. I am not judging sluts from a moral point of view, there is literally simple biology that dictates that being a slut is generally a bad choice.

[Izzy2102]

@amphet11 I disagree with your reasoning. I think it's more about sex coming with more consequences for women, while men can be basically be gone before she even knows she's pregnant

[amphet11]

That to, the risk of pregnancy is a factor, i don't see how you can disagree with my reasoning though, got taught this in both anthropology and cognitive science at university, further study after Bateman's principle agree with me.

[Izzy2102]

@amphet11 I don't think being able to reproduce only every 9 months is the main reason we don't like casual sex as much, it's the much higher risk

[myTake Owner]

I didn't take either position. I simply condemned bitches who do so only because they want someone to affirm their life choices. They want to use social stigma as a tool to make themselves more important.

I didn't divide all women into the two bitches above. There are normal women like me and you.

And lastly, if you just think it's harmful to be a slut and you voice it, then you're not the holy virgin.
If you slept with a few guys, that doesn't make you the smart slut.

I SPECIFICALLY described what makes the holy virgin and what makes the smart slut. If you're too stupid for basic reading comprehension, you might wanna get off GaG.

[myTake Owner]

Extending my sentence for accuracy:

And lastly, if you just think it's harmful to be a slut and you voice it >with open mindedness and humility before the nuances of difficult life choices, and with proper argumentation meant only to help women and honestly dissuade them from being a slut/having sex/whatever you oppose (instead of just shaming them)<, then you're not the holy virgin.

[Izzy2102]

So you just choose to pick two very narrow fictional types of women? Based on?
I honestly don't get the point of your take anymore, if that is not your opinion and it's clearly not societies opinion, what exactly did you write about?

[myTake Owner]

They are nt fictional. They are everywhere. And I told you what I was talking about. If you're too dumb to understand there is no point in repeating myself. Now is there?

[amphet11]

I don't even know what you are taking about anymore, but it is societies opinion, slut is a derogatory word for a reason.

[bloodmountain1990]

You ever meet promiscuous girls who don't want to be judged for sleeping around and being very experienced but won't hesitate to judge a guy for being inexperienced?

[Izzy2102]

@amphet11 I was talking to the asker not you

[amphet11]

lol, and i was talking to the asker too, not you (in regards to my last comment)

[Anonymous]

I'm not going to shame anybody who's not waiting for marriage, cause I don't care what goes in your legs or not. I'm waiting for marriage and I'm an atheist. I just want to wait for the right person. But sluts are pretty awesome and confident like wow you girls are great.

[Red_Dragon]

Why a atheist would get married is beyond me.

[musicbrain5]

@Red_Dragon: I'm an an atheist and I got married, lol 😂

[Red_Dragon]

@musicbrain5 Why if don`t mind me asking? I mean I guess for some people see it as symbolic for their relationship. I mean to me I see it as a religious thing no matter how you cut it, but I understand people see things differently. It`s just beyond me.

[musicbrain5]

@Red_Dragon: Marriage is not a religious thing to me. Organized religion has brainwashed people into thinking that they invented marriage and that it's only legitimate if both people are religious. My husband and I were both raised Christian but stopped believing in it as teenagers. We got married in the church though because it's part of the tradition from both our cultures. But religion is not part of our lives.

We also think that it's a more stable environment to raise a child in. It feels like more of a family that way to me - more complete, I guess. There's also the fact that he isn't Canadian. It's easier for him to seek citizenship if he's married to a Canadian.

It was also just the right step for our relationship. I don't want him to be my boyfriend forever. So many people here on GAG have such a huge problem with marriage. People have said things to me like I'm trapping him, or that I'm only marrying him so I can divorce him and take the kids and all his money, etc. 😢

[Red_Dragon]

@musicbrain5 Well I think at some point he's not really your BF but just your man. Your SO. I believe just because you aren't married doesn't mean the relationship the two of you have aren't a forever relationship so to speak.

I guess that's just my view of it, because to me marriage doesn't necessarily mean a piece of paper. I mean a piece of paper is just a piece of paper. That doesn't mean two people are necessarily in love to me. Some people get married for selfish reasons. I've heard one case when two people got married and just sat on to opposite ends of their house. They would run into each other in passing through the house but were never really together. Eventually they decided to divorce but see that doesn't mean two people are in love. It's just a piece of paper.

Again that's just my view. If it means more to other people then by all means that's understandable. Everything you said makes sense and I'm happy for you :).

[Red_Dragon]

@musicbrain5 Well musicbrain people can be very mean on here. I remember someone on here told me that a guy on here called me and her the n word (with the er on the end) and that he can't stand us. Another guy even told her he hates her. Of course I've been called all kinds of names on here. A asshole, a dick, toxic, dumb, ignorant, hypocrite, etc. the list goes on.

There are people on here who are depressed, virgins, angry, racist, sexist, maybe mentally unstable, and/or insecure who come on here to express their hatred and negativity.

I understand that stuff said can be very hurtful. I also think it's a reflection of how people are in general. People in general to me are selfish and mean. 😡 I'm sorry they were so mean to you.

The good thing is you and I both know that out of all the mean and negative people in the world there are also the few who are caring, loving, people who are dear to us. I'm sure you have some of those people...

[Red_Dragon]

@musicbrain5

Plato said this:

"People are like dirt. They can either nourish you and help you grow as a person or they can stunt your growth and make you wilt and die."

Those few are the ones worth cherishing.

[Anonymous]

You know it is possible to be sexually experienced without being a prude of sleeping around. It's not a black and white thing.

The problem isn't that the girl is having sex, it's how they go about it. If a girl is using sex to get guys to like her then it's pathetic as if she has nothing to offer. A girl I dated was the biggest hypocrite ever. I met her off Pof and she said she's glad I'm not a guy who sends nudes and dirty messages but then sent me nudes before she met me. This girl also claims to be a feminist and is sick of being treated like a sex object, pretty sure feminism is the opposite of that. It's not that girls shouldn't have sex but they shouldn't make it seem like they're a sex object and act like that's all they have to offer. That's how they get disrespected in the first place.

[myTake Owner]

I know it's not a black and white thing. I am in that middle and I know many other girls who are. But we are honest when we say that. Most women say that they are into "live and let live", but then they turn around and behave like I described above. I am not describing everyone, only two groups present within the female population.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh ok. Yeah sorry I got confused by the way the article was worded.

[Azara]

l.

Take owner, you have fully discredited yourself by invoking the term femininazi to express your views.

But before all of that you're reducing women to their sexual preferences is just arrogant. Bc it inconveniences you though im not sure how as you don't have to listen to anyone about their sex.

Women having sex isn't women trying to be men. It was men who created an environment where sex was unnatural fir women... So worn reassertion their sexuality and rights to it is just that. Reclaiming the sekf. Not trying to Be like someone else. They were robbed now they are taking bavk sexuality. You're trying to demean female sexuality and intelligent by insisting women wjo like sex don't understand their own mind. Who are you to tell them that's what they are doing.

Some people want to wait until marriage. That's their business it doesn't mean they are judging you. It's hypcritical as You're quite comfortable judging.

[Anonymous]

Dear take owner

"Shut the fuck up" Nobody wants to hear your shitty ass opinions. Judging people on they're sexual decisions. You should hear my first thing I was going to say to you. But I decided not to because your not supposed to argue with fools. But I had to say something. "Shut the fuck up"

[myTake Owner]

The fuck is with these teenagers all over the place?
Where are so many coming from? =O

[Opinion Owner]

Go to hell

[ArabianPwincess197]

LOL OP true

[Opinion Owner]

Good god. Nobody wants this shit. You know? So judgmental.

[ArabianPwincess197]

Agreed - apparently everyone who disagrees with her is acting stupid but some are genuinely stupid :\

[Opinion Owner]

I didn't know there was so many assholes on this site.

[derpaderp]

I honestly couldn't care less about what's passing between someone's legs and what isn't. It's none of my fucking business just like what goes between mine is none of theirs. People are such busy bodies. Being a virgin or not doesn't make you any better or worse a person.

I will say there's a lot less holy virgins around these days. Most girls and women I know like sex and have as much as they want

[Overactivetits]

oh you'd be surprised. try online dating. judgmental virgins galore

[derpaderp]

@Overactivetits the only judgmental Virginia I ever see these days are men ironically

[Overactivetits]

thats cause girls are judgmental virgin liars. they take it a step further

[myTake Owner]

Being The Holy Virgin from myTake, is not the same as being just a normal virgin. Even if said virgin is waiting for marriage. I am talking about arrogant girls who attack other girls and stuff their insecurity based ideologies down everyone's throat to seem like they matter..
Same for The Smart Slut. A girl can be a slut as much as she likes, but not be this psycho who thinks the main mark of wisdom, maturity, human value and relationship experience is having fucked someone in your life. If you didn't, you're obviously an asexual loser.

I know a bunch of normal sluts and normal virgins. This letter is from me, but in their name as well.

[Anonymous]

I don't give a fuck if if you have sex with 1 or 10 guys. We live the life of our choice. I don't care about premarital sex but I won't do it simply because I am not ready and would like to lose my virginity after marriage. It does not make me any better than you. But your take screams insecurity, like if some guys want virgins then go for the guys who don't want one. We all know that in high schools or colleges there are many girls who lose virginity and are considered cool. So don't act like the world is unfair or the other girls can't have superiority complex. Because some sluts have equal superiority complex. So, seriously, shut the fuck up and stop bashing someone's choice of life. And if virgins are arrogant about it, they are stupid. If sluts think their whorish attitude is coolest thing, they are stupid.

[Vesuvius87]

Doesn't make sense. I think everyone is free to choose how to live their life whether that's waiting till marriage, wanting a relationship, having a friend with benefits, etc. From what I read, that sounds like you're saying that having random is the best of all and that anyone that doesn't do it, has sexual issues.

If they want to wait till marriage so be it. To be honest why is it really any of your business?

Lastly, I don't even fit either of those categories. I'm all for ''only in a relationship'' and yes I lost my virginity to my past bf. How about that?

[Vesuvius87]

Interesting reverting to insults when you got nothing else to say. LOL... Maybe you should take some time to look at yourself in the mirror.

[Artistic_Soul]

Two words: I agree. :)
Some more words: They do need to shut up. XD I'm tired of hearing how I need to lose my virginity. And I'm tired of hearing "You need to waitttt". I'll do it when I want xD I don't care if you FCK 10 times a day or are waiting. Its not my business and my sex life isn't yours...

[Dulcedulcexoxo]

O. k. girls like you need to get over yourself. Lol I'm sexually active, I have sex , if someone wants to call me a slut I don't care. Like 97 percent of the people in the u. s have sex before marriage. We literally are the majority. Your able to have sex because men don't care that you aren't a virgin. Lol. Frankly, virgins are strong people, they have self control ( yes I said it ) Doesn't take will power to have sex. Anyone of the 97 percent who gets upset about a virgin has some internalized issues. We can't be discriminated against we are the majority , virgin are the minority and do get discriminated against. like you who obviously is mad that their morals is something important to them. For real. You are bashing, and the majority playing victim.

[DrKran]

Some people know that without sex then they have heavy weight on their shoulders.
It's easier to put weight onto our shoulders but they themselves can't handle such struggle.

Sex before marriage is wrong anyway. People will listen to the guy who makes it easier for them over the guy who puts too much to handle.

Being a christian is about hardship, not letting our beast get the best of us.
Every time I've finished having sex, I'm like "These feelings aren't my own" or "That's it? That's all I get?"...

Continue sinning, that's what Jesus died for. He died for our sins, not to make us into sinless nomads of anxiety, depression and stress. Repent though, this is important.

[Aroura]

i'm not going to flame at you, but, I was rather offended with the picture of Mary being up there, i hope this was meant as a piece of satire, and I hope that even if you believe otherwise, that you were not intentionally saying that the woman I believe is the mother of God, was this way.

I agree that many females are falling into these two types lately, but that is all i can agree with.

[myTake Owner]

The picture of Mary is satirical yes. I was in no way shape or form addressing the Bible and it's characters specifically.

[Aroura]

thank you for your clarification

[M_A_X]

I'm sorry, so wait, you only get offended if it's not satire? I don't think you realize how stupid that is... It defeats the whole purpose of the existence of satire, which is that people actually do say some dumb crap like that and mean it, on a daily basis

[Aroura]

I am not offended by THIS PERSON who wrote this because this was not bashing the most important woman to my personal faith. That does not mean that I am not offended by people who act like this, it is a separate issue. @M_A_X

[Laura1995]

I'm waiting to have sex until I'm married. But that's my decision and no one should judge me because I'm choosing to wait.
People who decided to not wait is their personal decision and I will not judge them based on that. What everyone does and doesn't do with their genitals isn't anyone's business but theirs.

The last thing I need is someone telling me I'm asexual because I'm a virgin. Like what?

[myTake Owner]

It's the implication sexually experienced make, I'm only exaggerating.
They don't claim you're asexual, but imply you're frigid, lame, a loser, coward, prude, etc. if you don't have sex like they did. They don't have to be sluts to be "the smart slut". They just have to be arrogant cunts implying they are better than you for having had sex already.

[M_A_X]

Here's your problem. What if you wait until you're married to find out he's into something super crazy in the bedroom that you can't deal with?

If you wait until you're committed, you're still taking a huge risk, just like everybody else. What if you got married and he wanted to be the girl in the relationship, like that topic I just saw bout the dude wanting to dress up like a french maid?

[myTake Owner]

@M_A_X What if you marry and find out he really prefers men?
It's called a mouth Max. Some people use those to convey, what we commonly refer to as information.

[M_A_X]

Okay, so your idea is to talk to him about everything he's interested in sexually before you get married, so there are no surprises? And you don't expect him to hold anything back? You don't expect him to be a virgin too, do you? because if that's the case, he might not even know what he likes until it happens

[myTake Owner]

@M_A_X Wait, so your argument for: "No talking about it is not enough." is: He might lie?
Lol by that token no one could ever marry anyone before testing them in every possible way in case they might lie.

Maybe they left out they have AIDS. Better test them!

Omg! xD

[M_A_X]

Jesus Christ man... if you marry someone and they haven't even been tested for aids, you're an idiot

[myTake Owner]

@M_A_X The idea is that they tested themselves and will tell you the truth. I was parodying your argument by saying a person like you would insist on re-testing their partner themselves because they don't trust their word.

[Unit1]

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'nuff sed.

[been_waiting]

This was stupid as fuck.

Here's an idea 😒
What other people do with their genitals is like, not your business, or anyone elses, so long as no one's getting hurt.

[Red_Dragon]

LMAO!!! XD Ahhhh.

So basically:

"Everybody shut the fuck up"? Nice.

[Red_Dragon]

"This creature is most common in religion influenced parts of the world" XD

[Red_Dragon]

Annnnd I know the two girls you are talking about too.

[DontDropIt]

I have a pretty good idea who the Holy Virgin is lol

[Red_Dragon]

@DontDropIt On here? Tell me in private.

[DontDropIt]

If she's even talkinf about gagers lol I don't know

[Red_Dragon]

@DontDropIt Hmmm maybe she wasn't, but I think she was. There was a girl on here who complained about two girls harassing her on here because to her and some others they are always acting so stuck up and downing girls who are promiscuous.

Who were you thinking about though?

[DontDropIt]

I'll pm you lol

[Red_Dragon]

@DontDropIt Okay.

[JoshyJames]

I see the issue you are trying to put forward is that unmarried virgin females consider themselves more holy or morally better than those who are not virgins. True? Correct me if I am wrong. If that is the issue then I agree with you that it is unfair to judge someone's morality based on whether they are still a virgin or not.

*correct me if I got wrong

[myTake Owner]

Yes that is what I was saying. You're the only person with half a brain to actually catch that.
Either that, or all the people who are pretending to misunderstand this take are actually just butthurt.

[JoshyJames]

just forgive them people when dealing with such issues tend to refer more to emotions than intellect and that makes them not see and understand the issue clearly

[ninalau]

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOO FUNNY LOL I like this take.