Is feminism often a shit test?

[Anonymous]

Shit tests are (sometimes conscious, sometimes unconscious) tests that women throw at men in order to quickly determine their desirability. Basically, a shit test is when a woman gives a man a hard time to see how he responds, and thereby the woman knows if he’s a ‘real man’ or not.

I think feminism often is a shit test. I’ve known feminists, whether ‘moderate’ or radical, who’ve gone on and on about the evils of masculinity or about how men should be more ‘respectful’ and gender-neutral. However, these women then often have sex with traditional, masculine men. From my own personal experience, I can say that these ‘feminists’ are often even more turned on by masculinity than non-feminist women are.

Feminism is often a shit test.

I disagree.

[Anonymous]

No.

Feminism is a woman's movement started in the 1800's (don't quote me on the date) in order to give women the right to vote, own land, and not to be considered as property of their husband.

The "shit test" is an entirely different matter. It's a fast paced time period in which a girl throws whatever quirky/annoying thing she can at a guy in order to see how he responds and it is a way for her to loosely determine how his personality is wired so she will know how he will respond under certain circumstances. If he takes it or "handles it well" i.e. with humor/level headed/doesn't go bat shit crazy when she (sometimes) intentionally pisses him off, then he's relationship quality. If he just flies off the handle then he's not and she moves on leaving him to call her a "radical feminist" and hate women.

It's essentially a fast paced mini relationship that she puts him through.

Not all women do this, but the majority of younger ones do even if they don't know they're doing it.

[heavensgift2girls]

Women have always been able to own land. They could buy land, sell land, and inherit land. Voting originally was reserved for only landowners regardless of gender. So women were voting from the beginning. However some states (not all of them) did eventually pass laws that were sexist when it came to voting. Feminism actually came about after women's suffrage, which says that if a state allows people to vote, that they can't discriminate against people for various reasons.

[RositaV]

Funny. I just had this issue over the weekend with my boyfriend. He put up an nasty video of a guy shooting his girl in the head because she wouldn't shut up. I took great offense to this, because I am a feminist and its not right for any man to laugh and put down a female because she "was interrupting him". So yes, I picked a fight with him. I was disgusted. It was not a "shit test" or whatever you are referring to. I've never even heard of this concept. Do girls ask questions, and analyze the response, yes. But its not as simple as "real man or not".. its to figure out how his mind works, and if they would be compatible.

[kilojs]

The fact that you chose that man, who behaves like an alpha ("bad boy") is more confirmation that feminist women are just like most women. They love the bad man that is disrespectful.

[pr3ttybr0wn]

Most straight women are turned on by masculinity. They may believe in equal respectful treatment for women but that doesn't mean they don't want to get dicked down by a real man. Those two aren't mutually exclusive.

And as far as "shit tests"...you have to have standards. You can't just give yourself to any guy who comes around who's interested just because he acts like he's genuine. Don't you have to take entrance exams before you get into school? Submit your resume and get it checked by HR before you get employed?

[Anonymous]

It isn't always a shit test, but it often is. The women that use feminism that way, think there is a need for feminism, mostly because they only go after dominate guys that don't put up with a woman's crap. These feminists tend to have no idea, that what they are attracted to, are the opposite things that they believe feminism is about.

We all know the sweet submissive guys are not the ones women are throwing themselves at. On the flip side, currently any dominance of a man, over a woman is seen as a need for feminism. The truth is that women are attracted to dominate guys. The more dominate the women, the more dominate the man needs to be, in order to attract her. Women's biology, and feminism are simply not compatible when it comes to attraction.

[bombdotcom]

Feminists want sweet, submissive guys...

so that they can boss those guys around and be 'dominant, strong, independent women'

[Opinion Owner]

They might, but will be banging a dominate guy on the side. Women typically aren't going to be turned on sexually by submissive men. It is also difficult for a woman to respect a submissive man in a long term relationship. Their are no 50/50 relationships. The strongest personality always comes out on top.

[RositaV]

I disagree. I consider myself feminist, and seek equality. 50/50 in a relationship

[Opinion Owner]

Then you are setting yourself up for failure. When two people disagree both people can not both get what they want. One person will always end up with more power in the relationship. The people that do think they are in a 50/50 relationship always end up having more power than their partner and simply don't realize it.

[Jonny_]

No, feminists more often than not do it because they believe that women are underprivileged and not respected... then you have girls who just do it because they think it'll make them cool or popular or different. I don't think being 'masculine' is specifically the way to win a feminist over...

[xzinax2]

i guess,i mean,if he doesn't support feminism it isn't really going to work out since he considers me subhuman or is ignorant to social issues-neither are appealing.

i'm not attracted to those ''traditional men'',they really just aren't even an option for my brain. as far as other feminists,maybe sex wise-but frankly people will fuck anyone if it isn't serious,but in marriage and dating? from what I've noticed they tend to date/marry really nice respectful guys

[toulouse]

yes- about as much as physically abusing someone is a test of their love for you.

how would you know? between your prejudice towards women in general, feminists in particular and the supposed inability of women to know how they feel or what they are. youve got a shit load of variables and the only common feature is your feelings. you have absolutely nothing concrete to form any viable conclusions. what experience are you actually rferring to.

in addition human rights is not a shit test. this is how you think. you're projecting that onto people who are _not_ learning disabled.

[Asker]

I'm not prejudiced. I've slept with many women, both feminists and non-feminists. I think I know what I'm talking about. How many have you been with? I suppose that you're yet another fish that thinks she knows better than a successful fisherman how to catch fish.

Also, you're being hysterical. Calm down, and you might regain whatever grasp of punctuation you usually have.

[bombdotcom]

No. It's just an outlet for girls who want to belong to something...

[martyfellow]

Yes,i's a way to test for PC. A lot of women want a PC guy, so prating about feminism is a way to see if he will put up with BS from her or not.

[Anonymous]

No. If you don't like feminism look the other way. It's that simple.

[yaddayaddayadda02]

I agree with you.