10 Tips For Dating A Feminist

[Anonymous]

In this day and age, feminist women are more and more common. Sure they might be all about girl power and women's rights, but they still date!

There's many misconceptions and stereotypes when it comes to feminism, but don't let that steer you away from dating a feminist girl! Below are 10 tips for dating a feminist woman.

1. Conversation

Don't just talk to her, engage in conversation with her. Let her thoughts and views be heard and try not to offend her or judge her. Respect her right to an opinion and she'll do the same.

2. Your Relationship With Other Women

How you treat a female waiter, your relationship with your sister or your mother, and how you treated your ex are all cues and things she will pay attention to.

3. The Bill

She won't automatically assume that you've got the bill, but you should at least offer. And if anything, you'll guys at least "go Dutch" and split the bill. And paying for her meal doesn't mean she owes you anything or that there should be strings attached.

4. Fighting Her Battles

Don't feel the need to step in and fight her battles. She can stand on her own, if she needs you; she will tag you in.

5. Don't Try To Control Or Own Her

Just like you she doesn't want to be interrogated. Don't ask her 21 questions or try to control her.

6. She's A Boss

Just because she goes for what she wants or is assertive and determined that doesn't make her a "bitch," she's a boss!

7. Miss Independent

You won't have to do everything for her. Yeah she will need you, but she can take care of herself.

8. Sexist Jokes

Don't automatically ask her, "So do you hate men?" Sexist jokes are a definite no no! You'll either have to give them up or say them when she's not around, but she better not find out!

9. Support Her Dreams And Goals

If she is a feminist she will have likely had goals and dreams before you came along. Take interest in her career and dreams and encourage and support her. Better yet, be a power couple.

10. Still Be A Gentleman

There's nothing wrong with opening her door, but don't be surprised when she opens it herself or is just as courteous to you.

Remember, just because she is a feminist that does not mean she is from another planet. At the end of the day, she just wants to be treated as an equal with respect and understanding. You should be treating everyone with respect and understanding anyways!

[Anonymous]

From all the feminist I know and have seen I can tell you this...
1. There is no such thing as engaging a feminist in conversation... it's more you agree or be shamed/attacked.
2. She will constantly judge your interactions with other women, looking for every opportunity to call you on "your privilege" or suppressive nature.
3. "She won't assume you got the bill but you should offer"... Seriously! So be equal, but also be a gender stereotype and offer to pay.
4. If you step in she will give you shit because "she's a strong independent women" but if you don't help you are guaranteed to get shit for not helping. It's lose-lose.
5. Don't try to control her, but you better do everything she tell YOU to do or be shamed in some way.
6. There is a difference between being a boss and a bitch. Don't fall for the lie that her rude ignorant snarky attitude isn't bitchy. It is.
7. She can take care of herself... but you better read her mind and determine when she still needs you help and when she doesn't or you will be told!
8. You won't be able to make ANY jokes, not just sexist ones. She will have no issue saying snarky things about men, but if you do the same back... "she better not find out!" <--- notice this quote... this is truth. If you do ANYTHING she doesn't agree with and she finds out, you will have hell to pay. Walking on egg shells constantly is no way to live.
9. Isn't this a relationship in general?
10. Be a gentleman. <--- the catch all. So fit into a gender role, but don't expect her to. She can do whatever she wants because she says so, but you have to be a gentleman. Oh an don't EVER ask her to act like a lady, you will be sorry.

Summary, unless you are willing to have her think for you and want to live in constant fear of every action and word you say, and when ever you do wrong, she will add it to her list of anti-male crap. Dating a feminist would be like doing jumping jacks with Nitroglycerin in your pocket... you will be just waiting for the boom.

[thesunstillshines]

Haha this is great

[FatherJack]

Outstanding... the truth , the whole truth & nothing but the truth... why don't these hypocritical harpies just say loud & fucking clear " I HATE MEN !! "

[Opinion Owner]

I've lost too many friends to feminism.

[Endeavor]

Wow
Didn't expect this.

[Hal2002]

I love the nitroglycerin in your pocked thin.

I told the last feminist I dated, that talking to her was like walking threw a mine field blindfolded. It was not if I would step on a mine, only when I would step on a mine.

[Massageman]

Thank you.

[bolverk]

Nice take, I've tried dating a "feminist", but I'd rather juggle three grenades with the pins pulled Its much safer.

[tzdc21]

That was brilliant! You just made my day!

[OlderAndWiser]

A strong woman will tell me that I am the man she's been waiting for. An ugly woman will tell me that I'm a few pounds overweight.

[RainbowFanGirl]

I don't think this list was needed. This list was created for radical feminists, who just want women to be superior to men. You want them to respect you, but you have to return the favor as well. Not all feminists are man-hating, overly-sensitive bitches. I think the regular, or non-radical femenists would treat their man with the respect that they deserve in return.

[doireallyneedone]

You are indeed wise for your age, young one.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Thank you...

[ArchDruidMordred]

I think the Feminazis disagree with you.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Ha. I can see that.

[gobsmacked3]

I think separating people with labels is silly for you treat every one you date in the same way, with respect

[Massageman]

ONE tip for dating a feminist. Don't.

[inamorata]

1. Don't just talk to her. Engage with her.
Let her get out her rant in full.
Try not to offend her or judge her. (which is completely arbitrary and personal and she may, at any point, decide you have done just that only for disagreeing with her)

Lucky guy, who wouldn't want to participate in such a conversation! :D (sarcasm)

2. This is every woman.
Just because we have a brain and aren't feminists, doesn't mean we don't judge men trough female eyes.

3. NO, you have no right to say that as a feminist. You are paying for your meal no discussion about it. Otherwise you are allowing unequal treatment, or worse expecting it, all while spewing feminist crap.

4. This is every woman.
Just because we have a brain and aren't feminists, doesn't mean we're morons who need men to tend to us like children. We don't lie we're tough like you do and acknowledge we're females, but we are still adult females.

5. Control in a relationship/leadership/dominance/aggression all these things get women attracted to men. Feminists are no exception, this is a flat out lie.

6. Which is fist unattractive as it means she denounces her femininity that should compliment a man as the actual boss and create harmony, all for the sake of her pride.
Second, women rarely make a good boss. I personally have yet to meet an exception. They lack brain power and are too emotional to exert control in proper degrees and ways. They are either total psycho cunts, or they let everything slide and then complain passive-aggressively.

You're most likely not a boss, just a delusional bitch.

7. This goes for all women. Only those of us who don't hang our pride on not needing anyone, purposely divide duties making us need the man, because we understand people can't do well all alone (they can only get by) and should need one another if they are to create a romantic relationship.

8. You are way too sensitive and would be a total drag to be around if you can't take a joke.
Also: "she better not find out"? What are you, his parent?
(this clearly explains why power vacuum needs to be filled. You can't have equality, you can only be in charge like this)

9. Support her goals and dreams, even if those include letting her climb the corporate latter as strangers raise your children.

10. Translation: there is nothing wrong with treating your unequally, but only when you like it.

Also this needs correcting.
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A strong man doesn't put up with shit from an out-of-control cunt. His way or the highway.

[mistninja314]

"A strong man doesn't put up with shit from an out-of-control cunt. His way or the highway." <3 <3 <3 you the real MVP

[inamorata]

Also I think @Klara-Hitler did a great job replying to this garbage.
If there was MHO here, it'd be hers... <3

[Klara-Hitler]

1. Conversation - He should try to engage in conversation and hear everything you have to say and not judge you too. probably if he says anything against you he will be a sexist.

2. Your Relationship With Other Women - he should try to be nice with every woman he sees. before feminism was made men hit the female waiters and kicked their asses when they went to bring the orders. it wasn't like that a normal human being had a little respect for everyone regardless of their sex as long as they haven't done any bad to him.

nobody is obliged to try having anything further than a simple respect for anyone just because she is a woman. and that respect always existed.

3. The Bill - He should 'at least' offer to pay the bills and paying for the meal doesn't mean she owes him anything.
and why should he pay your bills? why should he even offer it? because he is the 'man'? you are of course very anti-sexist.

4. Fighting Her Battles - He should stand there ready for the queen to tag him in so then he can fight the battles in the name of the mighty queen.

5. Don't Try To Control Or Own Her - He shouldn't try to control or own her. of course according to 4 you control and own him.

6. She's A Boss - Everybody knows that by now.

7. Miss Independent - 4,5,6.

8. Sexist Jokes - don't worry if he meets the 7 standards above all he will say is "woof woof".

9. Support Her Dreams And Goals - Support your queen knights of the round table. She has great plans in her head but apparently she can't wear a 50 kilogram steel armor and handle a 30 kilogram longsword like you can do.

10. Still Be A Gentleman - Be a gentleman. Be a Gentle-man, always be gentle because she's so fragile, but she's equal to you.

nope. I am not going to let my son be your dog. if you want a dog go buy one.

my son:

1. He will lead his woman with love
2. He will own his woman with love
3. He will be a gentleman for "his" lady.
4. He will support "his" lady. and as long as she supports him. He will not do anything for nothing in return.
5. He will be the leader, and no one is the boss.
6. He will fight the battles of his "family" and his lady will help him.
7. there will be no boundless independence for the individuals as soon as they get into a relationship. But they will make an independent entity called family.

this will be my son, his woman, their family. This is the Bavarian way of living and we don’t care about some hypocrite childish women with their ‘queen’ complex.

[PT1911]

You will be such an excellent mother to your children

Bless you

[muspelhem_5]

I pretty much agree with your criticism, but lol, are you an oldschool Nazi?

[Klara-Hitler]

@muspelhem_5 no. I am a woman of patriarchy. Bavarian way of living existed 3000 years before national socialism was created. I don't understand what is bad about a man leading his family and her lady support him and make him more powerful. family isn't a plaything to fight in it over who is the boss. no one is the boss in a patriarchal family, no one has any sort of complex and need to prove himself or herself. but both the man and the woman are leaders and guides in their own ways in the family.

A man of patriarchy, a man who feels the need inside to create a family is a natural born leader. there is no shame if he wishes to lead, there is no shame in following and supporting him with all the power you have.

and the only law in there is love. love is the law, love under will. love will rule not a person. Not me or him. His love will make me follow him, his love will help him lead his family in the best way possible.

that is our way of living.

[Klara-Hitler]

@PT1911 thank you very much.

[B1gbadw01f]

'yeah, what she said'!

[heavensgift2girls]

Your son is lucky to have a mother like you that will teach him strength. Today a lot of mothers are teaching their sons to be weak and submissive to women, which is not the kind of man women are attracted to. As a result we now have a bunch of whinny nice guys that don't understand why acting like a doormat doesn't impress women.

[Klara-Hitler]

@heavensgift2girls thanks. it is not about being nice or bad. it is about knowing how to lead. leadership is a man's main ability. and if we scare our boys from ruling and leadership no one can take their places in the society.

women want a man's leadership and at the same time fear it because of the mistakes he may do during it. the need is inevitable. and not just by women but the society needs men as leaders. and there will be always a group of weaker men between stronger ones who can't handle leadership well.

so because the need is natural the only thing we can do here is to plan on learning men how to lead better and be better leaders to fight the possible problems in the system.

the feminists though instead of educating men will start scaring them and wipe out the whole natural system. they step forward to fight against nature.

and nature doesn't care about you, it will destroy you. you will have to find ways to make it better or will have to die.
...

[Klara-Hitler]

... and the weaker men you see who are failing in everything are the answer of nature to the human society. The need exists, the society will become weaker and chaotic because the need will always be there but the strength to feed it is lost.

And in the end the line will die off. The artwork of nature.

[bananatossing]

So much win in this post ;)

[Dawsonwc]

Every time I see rants about how "feminist" women should be treated whilst dating I can't help but think who the h*ll has she been talking too. Maybe I'm different or my friend group is just odd but these rants always seem redundant to me. 1. Who the f**k dates a girl and doesn't have conversations with her? Like how is that even possible. What dude in his right mind wants a girl he can't talk to. 2. Don't just check how I treat other women in my life check how I treat everyone all the time cause I'm defintely checking you. 3. The Bill. I offer on first dates and after that I offer whenever I feel like it or when I'm taking someone somewhere that is higher than an average affordable meal. That has nothing to do with being a women thats called just being thoughtful. in my opinion I don't believe women should even have meals paid for this day an age. If I'm dating you your an adult and can buy your own food it's not like you had to hunt it down. 4. I'm not going to be dating you if you constantly get yourself into situations that need me to fight for you. Fights are easy to avoid and if you don't know how I don't want you raising my kids 5. I'm black I don't want anyone experiencing what my ancestors did. 6. She's a bitch. I'm not sure why women think men like bossy men. He's an asshole too. Bossy and assertive are not the same. You can be assertive and get your way without being an asshole about it. 7. D*mn right you should be independent. I don't date children. 8. I make jokes. I make racists jokes, I make sexist jokes. Dark humor is born from saying the things people feel is wrong to say. True if I know your sensitive I'm not going to make them. But If I know you can take a joke and you know me well enough to understand they're jokes I'm making them. And if they offend you too much tell me we'll talk and I'll stop. And once again that goes for everyone. 9. If you don't have dreams and goals I'll help you find some. Life's empty without them. And that has nothing to do with being a woman. 10. Being a gentleman isn't something you can turn off but if you think holding doors or putting down jackets in the rain is a real gentleman you've been deceived any f**kboi can do that. So in short once again I'm reading a list of things with the label feminist thrown on it that has nothing to do with being a feminist. Feminism much like all fights for civil rights is pretty much all done in the judicial/legislative system these days not the common public.

[sheabutter]

I agree with everything you have said except the paying for dates. At least for the first 1-5 dates, I think it's okay for whoever initiates the date (it shouldn't matter who initiates) to pay for the other person. It could swap back and forth. After that though, you are right. People should be able to pay for their own stuff, with the exception of giving gifts to one another.

[Dawsonwc]

Now just because I don't believe in paying for dates doesn't mean I don't do it. I pay often for the first few dates but eventually you'll learn of my opinions about it. I only strictly hold my rule of attempting to pay for the first after that it's kind of just picking and choosing depending on the girl. If she's really traditional and I really like her I'll do it a little longer. It's like how I bow my head to pray over food when others ask despite being an athiest. I may not believe in something but I understand the importance it may hold for others and I try my best to respect that but I'm not going to hide my beliefs.

[Dawsonwc]

Or in other words I don't believe in doing it but it's not so important that I'm gonna whine about having to do it

[Guy2345]

So, if men are more likely than not to ask the woman on a date, doesn't that then mean that men are more likely to pay for said date "initiation" privileges? Out of all the women I've dated, I've only been asked on a date ONCE by a woman with the necessary courage to risk rejection. I did, in fact, reject her request, because I was not interested. Does that mean I should always pay for every one of my dates? Feminism is a crock of crap, until women start accepting the downside, in order to get the good side. Feminazis are just self-centered little girls, that have a distorted, limited view about the world and yet, still feel the need to complain about it. When the Feminazis start picking up newspapers, instead of handing out protest leaflets, and learning an UNBIASED version of history, instead of pledging their undying fealty to some knuckle-head Liberal Arts teacher previously associated with the Black Panther movement, then we can have a conversation. Until then, learn how to

[Guy2345]

operate a vibrator...

[Anonymous]

It's 2015, why would you not be a feminist regardless of your sex? Feminism is the equality of the sexes, which benefits both men and women. No, you are not a feminism if you believe women are better than men, because that is misandry, so saying "oh girls are better than guy, feminists hate men" isn't actually feminism at all. Why is it so hard for you to want equal rights for women? Why is the thought of women being equal to men such a turn off for some of you? Why do you still want women to be oppressed? It's not even such a hard concept to understand, it's basically common sense. And for you girls that are such anti-feminists, even if you do not actively need feminism in your life, does not mean it isn't necessary. It only takes a few google searches to see how oppressed women, no matter what age, are. You might not need feminism, but what about the little girls who haven't even gone into their teenage years and are being forced into marriage with someone 5/6+ times their age? Or how women get paid less for doing the exactly same job as a man? Or how men aren't able to express their emotions without being labelled as weak? Or how male rape victims are completely dismissed because "they should've enjoyed it"? Or how women do not have control over their bodies? FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK- SAYING YOU HATE MEN IS MISANDRY- THE PREJUDICE AGAINST MEN!!! I'm a feminist and i believe that men and women should be treated equally, so a woman shouldn't hit a man and vice versa, a woman shouldn't abuse, mistreat or get special treatment for any crime, neither should it be dismissed because it's a girl against a guy, because reality is that if a man touched a woman he would be faced with consequences so why are male abuse victims being completely dismissed? This is why feminism is important, not just for women but for men aswell. So the fact that pretty much all of you want women to be stuck in this system of oppression because you can't handle a woman being assertive or a "boss", or independent or having BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS just makes me wonder if any of you are actually aware of what feminism is, and no it is not hating men, not shaving your armpits or looking like a men (which is completely fine if you do does things) IT IS BEING EQUAL TO ONE ANOTHER.

[MalloryMalloy]

It's not about equality. Feminists hate men, plain and simple. When I see feminists claim they hate men or they need to be oppressed, it's not about equal rights. They are no different than the KKK or any other hate group. And feminism is almost dead anyway.

[Opinion Owner]

you do realize that hating men is misandry and not feminism right? Any person who considers themselves a feminist whilst expressing hatred for men is far off being a feminist.

[DaddyRollingStone]

"Feminism is for everyone," said the smug, overweight metropolitian while drinking from her 'Male Tears' mug.

[Dawsonwc]

Yeah equality for all people is called being egalitarian and whether or not you want to admit it some of the most prominent feminist writers did practice misandry in their writings. You can't cherry pick the parts of feminism that you like and call the other stuff false feminism. That's just the whole "no true Scotsman" thing. If you believe in equal rights call yourself egalitarian not feminist. Sometimes people are both but most if not all of the female positive positions that are held in feminism is also part of being egalitarian. A feminist to me these days is someone who wants equal pay for equal work for women, and less sexual objectification and shaming while ignoring the heavily female biased divorce laws, child support laws, and domestic violence laws. I have an aunt who is a mayor, one CEO, one CFO, and one who works for the pentagon, and one's a homemaker. Never heard the word feminist uttered from any of their mouths. They don't need political labels. They just do.

[Guy2345]

You need to read through these comments again Anonymous 18-24 year old expert... Feminism hasn't been about equal rights for women for a very long time now. It is now about the enrichment of women above all others. "Keep what we got, but we want MORE." Yes, women are oppressed... in other countries... But until they rise up and demand change, change will never come... I think we should ship all the feminazis over to the Middle East, or North Africa, where their ministrations would still have some meaning and some some merit...

[Guy2345]

@Dawsonwc Very apt observations! Excellent post. Wish I could +1 your post, but alas, its not available...

[Guy2345]

I LOVE the fact that someone finally utilized the word Misandry... As to the existence of Misogyny - yes, it does still exist, so too does Misandry... The Feminazi's are the Misandrists of the modern age. @DaddyRollingStone - they've now upped it to a "male tears" pitcher... The mug was getting to small and some male tears were being lost to the ages from the mugs overflow... The feminazi's couldn't have that, since they need to have mementos and proof of all the crushed male spirits, so they can show them off to all their misandrist cohorts... lol...

[WesTheGuru]

No, there is a difference between a bitch and an assertive woman. Men don't call assertive women bitches, we call bitches bitches.

Pretty much what this post says to me is "Let her do whatever she wants, she's not tied down by gender roles! But don't abandon yours because she'll still expect them of you!" Feminists in modern society are not about equality anymore, they're about actions without repercussions, and not being expected to do anything.

A man is still expected to hold the door open for her, offer to pay, defend her when she can't handle herself, and generally treat her like a queen. If he doesn't, he's not worth her, but if she doesn't treat her man like a king, she's just too "independent" to be worried about it!

Feminism is not feminism anymore. You already have equal rights in the US, so equality already exists. Feminism is just favoritism now.

You want to know what I say to your last point of "Be a gentleman"? How about you be a woman first. I'm not being a gentleman for a woman who expects everything for nothing in return.

[Tombstone1000100]

On point

[ScruffyNerfHerder]

I'm getting kind of sick of gender-biased posts, to be honest. Both feminists and men's rights activists or whatever they call themselves.

I'll be blunt. If I consider someone an equal, I won't go out of my way to accommodate them. I accommodate children, the senile, and the handicapped. The able can handle themselves.

I'm supposed to treat Feminists differently than I do "normal" women? Is that the implication of this guide (offensively assuming that I'm treating "normal" women poorly to begin with, in the variety of abusive ways listed)?

More offensive still is the condescension toward "normal" women in this guide. Let me quote you: "If she is a feminist she will have likely had goals and dreams before you came along." So a woman who isn't a feminist won't have goals and dreams, particularly before meeting me? Unbelievable.

"I hope you like feminist rants, because that's kind of my thing." I don't let men rant at me with their views--with the objective of maintaining equal treatment of the sexes, I will tell you to shut up too if you're ranting. I don't have to subject myself to what you have to say. A conversation is a collaboration, not a contest. Date someone else if that's a problem.

Rather than being sensitive about the feminist label applied to oneself, how about instead just being a normal human and talking? Maybe we'll agree or disagree on things, and I will be polite and respectful regardless. But I am not going to walk on eggshells to make sure you don't feel offended or judged--if you're an adult, handle your emotions, they aren't mine to deal with.

When you identify with a label, you reduce yourself to a caricature. I don't waste time on caricatures. I don't waste time on people who are overly sensitive about their own views. I don't date children.

And you're paying your half of the bill.

[Octavion]

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[muspelhem_5]

This^^

[Watermelonoma]

Lol, beastly response dude

[ScruffyNerfHerder]

@Octavion @muspelhem_5 @Watermelonoma

Thanks for the regards, gentleman ;)

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Guys think all feminists are feminazis. I hate those bitches too, I hate that they can't see a video of a girl shaking her ass on TV without thinking that's just wrong and shit. Some girls like to behave like bitches, LET THEM BE. I hate that they can't laugh at a joke, I have a really black sense of humour, make your sexist or racist joke, It's okay for me.
I am a feminist, I can ask a guy out, and be okay with his rejection, I can change a car's wheel, I can pay my bill, and many more things.
I can clean my house, but if I live with a man, he could help me doing the cleaning, or cook as much as I do.
I hate that girls in Nigeria can't get education because they are girls.
I hate that guys think they will stop being "guys" if they do the cleaning.
I hate that sometimes people pay less to girls when they do the same work as guys.
I hate that women get the custody of the children most of the time, sometimes moms are not better than dads.
I hate that women (sometimes) get less years in jail cuz they have a pussy.
I hate that people think guys are rapists because they have a dick and that it's okay if a girl wants to rape a guy.
I hate that people think it's okay to see a girl beating a guy and that it's wrong when a guy does it. Abuse it's never okay.
And what I hate the most is FEMINAZIS.

I am a feminist. I love men. I support equality.

[epiman94]

You Rock. Welcome to G@G!

[Just1n123]

This!! Thank you for telling the truth about us :)

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Thanks a lot Epiman94 :) It's great to be welcomed hahaha

Just1n123, you are welcome, hun :D This is what a real feminist do.

[FatherJack]

You are an egalitarian... you believe in fairness for all... sadly the feminazis have hijacked true feminism... by the way I do ALL the housework in my house.. my Mrs usually cooks , I do the rest , mind you I'm ex military , so it's ingrained in me. Upvoted for an honest & fair response.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

FatherJack

That's so amazing! I really want to marry that kind of guy. Men are able to do the same things we do (except for the period, pregnancy and girly stuff) and women are able to do the same things men do.

I am definitely an egalitarian.

More guys should be like you.

[FatherJack]

Thanks for the lovely compliment...& having such a fantastic positive attitude , all girls / women need to be like you , there are too many mean & spiteful man hating women in the Western countries. And I like Latinas... I'm married to an Italian , my little girl is blessed with lovely Latina looks from her mum.

[WhatTheHellAmy]

Well, I like variety, I like to hear different opinions. But I can't deny that I would like to hear more women wanting REAL equality.

Well, western countries are really far away from my home. I live in Mexico, and I was born here, so I'm 100% latina.
Not sure about that italian stuff, I've never thought about an italian as a latina.

Why do men hate women in the western countries, I've never heard about that.

[Anonymous]

There is a difference between feminists and feminazis. However, there is a VERY fine line between the two of them. In fact, that line is practically invisable. Every single feminist I have met have claimed to be oppressed by all men. They claim that they will not succeed because of the men. They claim it is there body and the can do what they want with it, and then turn around and claimed every man used her. The idea of feminism is more appealing than the actual movement. I believe in equality. But will I ever consider myself a feminist? Hell no. And why? Because along the line of claiming to be a feminist, you will say at least once that men are the fault behind everything.
Oh the MAN knocked you up and left? Must be his fault.
Oh the MAN gets paid more than you do? News flash, I've never had this problem! So this is a crock of shit. Maybe you should consider getting a different job OR stop believing that since you have tits and a pussy that you should get paid more for doing absolutely nothing!
Men do not owe any single woman out there for anything. They are not the burden like most "feminists" claim they are. They are not the reason why women don't have what they want in life. Call me crazy, but I would rather have my man say I belong in the kitchen 24/7 then to sit back and enter any feminist march!!

[Remonster]

That's terrible. Entirely shifting her lack of responsibility on males.

[Opinion Owner]

That's what "feminists" do. Every single one of them. Their movement is such a great idea, yet none of them stick to it. They want equality for BOTH men and women but if you were to ever go to a feminists march, you would see that everything they claim they are is completely blown away by them blaming all their bullshit on men.

[Hal2002]

God I love number one, Don't just talk to her, engage in conversation with her. Let her thoughts and views be heard and try not to offend her or judge her. Respect her right to an opinion and she'll do the same.

That is so much bullshit, the minute you do not agree with her opinion. You will be considered disrespecting her, devaluing her, offending her and judging her.

Love this one too, How he treats his mother, is a pretty good indicator of how he will treat you. Bullshit, my mother is by no means mother of the year material and I avoid her as much as I can. My relationship with my mother, in no way effects how I treat other women.

I have date a few hardcore feminist, and for the most part I have found that while they want you to support and understand them and change your program for them. They are about themselves and you better be on their program, as they are not going to make changes to their program for you unless it benefits them.

I have a simple rule in life, respect me and I respect you.
I will treat you equally, to how you treat me.

If you can not make me a priority in your life, don't expect me to make you a priority in my life.

[Hexxus]

TL:DR I will take feminism seriously when they stop claiming that saying hi to a girl is harassment and when they push for women to be required to sign up for the draft as well as pushing for equality in devoice court.

The original goal of feminisms was a noble cause which was giving women equal social and political rights. At least here in the united states that goal has been realized.

Men and women both have advantages and disadvantages to each other in different areas. The goal of modern day feminism is not true equality, its to preserve the advantages they already have and eliminating the disadvantages. Feminism as outlived its purpose and is making issues out of non-issues as an attempt to stay relevant. Their actions are harmful to both men and women...

Such as pushing "yes means yes" law. Which more or less states that if a women does not give on going verbal consent through out a sexual encounter she was raped or the shaming of women who choice to be say at home mothers.

There have been feminist who have pushed for laws that would remove the burden of proof if a women accused someone of sexually assaulting her. Had that been passed all any vindictive women would have to do to destroy a guy is claim that he raped her. Even if she has no evidence and she is out right lying the guy would be ruined. I know plenty of psychotic women who would jump as such an opportunity

[miramiraonthewall]

Great tips, generally, but I don't think many men on GaG are interested in dating us. Like I don't even think these tips will be necessary or useful for most of their lives. lol But it's nice to put some tips out there.

However, not all feminists are the same. Certain things will vary, but generally this applies pretty consistently.

But most serious feminists won't find themselves trying to date men who openly disrespect or disagree with feminism. And you'll find that in specific very liberal political/social circles, there are often men who fully understand feminism, and history and politics in general, and can meet you exactly where you are. Thats the goal right there. When that happens, and he just gets it... perfection. The meeting of intelligent, conscious minds. Being with someone who can talk about things on the same wavelength is always magical. It's like your brains are f*cking too. It's so good. Thats what you should look for, in my opinion, my feministas. Although, I do know it isn't as common as the alternative, so I understand that struggle.

[Bards]

They confuse feminist and "feminazi" all the time.

[miramiraonthewall]

I dont agree with using terms like "feminazi" as I said below. @Bards
Aside from the fact that I probably am what many people here consider a "feminazi," especially according @WhatTheHellAmy and her standards below, I don't believe in pandering to ignorance or apologetically trying to reassure people that I'm a "good one" and they're "the bad ones." No, I'm a feminist. Period, point blank. If you don't get it, then you just don't get it.

[Bards]

Well it at least it doesn't really apply to the dating world. Most guys dont care dont the term, a lot dont know what it is. They just do what they do anyway; good or bad.

Feminism or whatever people want to call it doesn't determine if you are a decent person or not.

[miramiraonthewall]

And lmao @ all the anti-feminist opinions here.
This is definitely not the place to find anyone interested in dating feminists.
The attitude here on feminists is very "some form of mild torture > dating a feminist" xD
But everyone is looking for different things in life, you know. Not everyone is compatible, and we just have to find people suited to our political and moral values.

[miramiraonthewall]

@Bards

I think that depends on who you are. It matters a lot to me, because intellectual, political compatibility is extremely important to me. I really could never date a man who didn't agree with feminism. And I'm very vocal about my feminist identity for that reason. I want them to know I'm one of them. Its just much better and fairer to everyone to start on as honest a point as possible, if you're interested in a serious or long term relationship.

Politics is also a big part of my life, including feminist discussions regularly. This may be one reason why I
haven't struggled with this as much as I probably would with guys. I'm already dating very liberal men who are involved or very interested in politics and at least have a clear understanding of what feminism is. I usually begin out as friends and have discussions about things, so we know where we stand in general. That would be my best advice for anyone, if intellectual, political, or moral compatibility is at all important.

[Bards]

Yeah thats very true.
I dont see how this Take is offensive or wrong also.
So much butthurt o_o

[miramiraonthewall]

@Bards

If you so much as whisper the word "feminist" on GaG, expect all shit to hit the fan. Creating a list about how to date feminists is kind of like throwing meat to the wolves.

[Bards]

Hahah yess xD

[LexBarringer]

I don't agree with the last animation, stating that;

Feminist is a person who believes in the social, political and economic equality of the sexes.

Feminism has been about how women measure up to "men" in the gender binary (men [XY] and women [XX]) and making sure they have the same rights, economic and political status.

Source:

I am an egalitarianist and practice egalitarianism, also known as equalism. Egalitarianism is all about including all genders not just the binary, sexual orientations (or lack therein if said person is asexual). Egalitarianists believe in the social, political and economic equality of the sexes [we prefer calling them, genders to be exact, to include everyone in the conversation] (because there are more than just two sexes / genders). This gets into the cisgender and cissexual area which I could go further on but in order to keep this short and concise, I shall not.

Source:

I am part of the LGBTIQA+ spectrum by birth, born this way.

I am the, "I" of this spectrum, meaning Intersex, more specifically, I have Klinefelter's syndrome (I'm a XXY amd not a XY male).

[doireallyneedone]

I am so glad reading the comments that both guys and girls can see whats really going on in this take.

This is the reason why many men (and women) have a problem with 'feminism'. I think most people will be fine with Feminism if it promotes true equality, but it seems like a lot of feminism these days is slightly misguided. This take for example, there is so much 'sexist undertone' when you read it carefully. It almost implies that non-feminist women are less independent than feminist women. A load of sh*t of course.

[cth96190]

I have but one tip on the subject of dating a feminist: do not do it.
I would never, under any circumstances, be interested in a feminist. Nor, I believe, would a feminist be interested in me.
I am a conservative old-fashioned man of honour, a former soldier and a dedicated martial artist. I am a man.
A feminist would want a simpering skinny-pant-wearing latte-sipping girlyman who would be her bitch.
I could not tolerate to be in the presence of a woman who called herself a feminist, but was too stupid to understand that third-wave feminism was hijacked by the Marxists during the 1960s and has been used as a part of the Marxists' tool kit to subvert Western Civilisation. I would rather put my penis into a nest of scorpions.

[DanHart]

I agree ! Applause , applause ! I am no wuss, a wuss won't get anywhere in live with his submissive behavior !

[DanHart]

Socialist, communist SCUM doesn't even deserve to breathe the air around them.

[DanHart]

Get your asses up and get a job, Feminists !

[Jaydog666]

Was feeling u up until to the rant about commies.#wayoffthereservation

[DanHart]

Sry, but feminists in Germany are strongly linked to communism and socialism.

[AleDeEurope]

So if she's not a feminist we should treat her differently? Why I have the feeling that you're insinuating that if she's not a feminist she's not a woman that deserves to be treated right?
I don't like how you try to picture feminist women, like if they were more powerful than other women, like we need to put her on a pedestal. Listen, I'm gonna treat you like I think you deserve to be treated, and this is something YOU decide. Act like a bitch and you'll be treated like one. Act like a lady, and you'll be treated like one.

If you want me to be a gentleman, act like a lady, don't demand something and call me a misogynist when I ask for you to be a lady.

[9mfeo]

How would you describe the behaviour of a lady?

[AleDeEurope]

@9mfeo Someone with manners and respect. A girl that when you hold the door open for her she says thank you and doesn't think she's entitled to that. A woman that's confident and humble, not arrogant or cocky. She knows how to behave at the dinner table and knows how to eat. She's intelligent and knows how to talk about different topics (not everything is about feminism, there's more going around the world). A lady knows how to have fun too, she's not stuck up and doesn't take herself too seriously. A lady knows what she wants in life and goes for it. She dresses nicely, taking care of her appearance, not overdoing it, but at least being presentable.
But most of all, a lady has respect for herself, she doesn't succumb to society's pressure, she acts how she thinks what's right and what's wrong; she has her own mind, her own opinions and acts upon them.

[9mfeo]

Do you think it's impossible to be both a lady (as you have just described it) and a feminist?

[AleDeEurope]

@9mfeo no, it's very possible, but for some it is impossible cause they believe being a gentleman and a lady is something of a patriarchy society, which is total bullshit.
The girl that wrote this Take I'm pretty sure she's not a lady, at least she doesn't think like one.

[9mfeo]

I agree with you - I think that there is a certain standard of behaviour that humans should expect from everyone. I don't feel the need to put a label on it (gentleman/lady/parakeet/whatever) but it can simplify conversations to do so. For some feminists, "lady" calls to mind a person whose defining characteristic is that they're submissive to a man instead of just an all-around nice person (which is how I interpreted your description). Funny, isn't it, how perception of language can shape a conversation?

[Octavion]

"A strong man can handle a strong woman. A weak man will say she has an attitude."

Sorry but that just sounds like an excuse for someone to act rudely and force everyone to put up with it. If you have an attitude it means you lack maturity and shaming people for bringing it up is just further proof of it. No person with true self-respect puts up with attitude be they man or woman.

[heavensgift2girls]

That is exactly what it is. If a man ever complains about a woman mistreating him, and she attacks him for not being too weak to handle a strong woman, then it is time to get as far away for that woman as possible. That is what emotionally toxic women do. It is just a shaming technique to control men. No feminist would ever say that a strong woman can handle a strong man when he is mistreating her. The feminist would tell the woman to stand up for herself and dump that asshole.

[Coffinspire]

Love this take!! I was so scared it was going to be the way extreme feminists are, when they are strong women when they want to be, and weak women any other time. I would call myself a feminist, but I don't want to be babied. Sure, I can't lift heavy things, but I give it a damn good try to not ask for help. I want to be respected, not as a woman, but as an individual. I hate when guys look at me like "stupid woman" or that I'm too girly to get dirty or something. Also, I hate the double standards relating to sex, body hair, gender roles etc . which is more or less where the "feminism" in me comes from.