Seems like a bit of a Kafka-trap so people can some can exercise power over some others. Now you have the ability to decide of a whim that anyone who hasn't dated outside there own race (even if they are "Person A") or anyone that says they just don't want to (as "Person B") is a racist and they are Kafka-trapped. Ostracize at will.
Besides, I don't think I'd have a problem with racists as long as they don't break the law or act unethically. People are allowed to feel however they want, hurting people is the real problem.
I should probably elaborate that socially I would have a problem with racists, we're not really going to get along, but I don't want to go around shaming them, that's just being an asshole.
People are allowed to formulate an opinion. No, it does not have to reach a physical level for one to be able to place a judgment on it. I don't know what trap you are referring to because I openly inferred having a preference is not the problem. When someone attaches hate , judgment , negative stigmas to an entire racial group then that goes beyond a simple preference, it is hate. I am simply exposing hate is often there in our faces but is overlooked because the moment someone says , "I have a preference" it suddenly makes all of what they said ok. "I don't want pale pink string haired babies so I will date a black man". Why would this be ok? Is it because the words "I have a preference" magically takes away everything? Usually when people think of racism they think of it in its most extreme form. Blatant and physically harmful. However most racism nowadays is subtle. I am simply exposing that fact. Not dictating what people should or should not do.
That just means you're not getting along with them socially, it's not quite them being full-on assholes but it's in the same vein. It's fine to not like someone for the things they say, it's not different from anyone else saying things you don't like: We have the freedom to hate things.
If they are discriminating where discrimination isn't acceptable (e. g employing an engineer) or "reach a physical level" then that's not ok. As long as they aren't doing any damage then we can all get on with our lives and attempt to win over their hearts and minds in the realm of ideas if we so choose.
A Kafka-trap is basically saying you're guilty and if you deny it then you're super guilty; an impossible situation to escape from. My issue it that you're creating the mental framework to ostracize people at will. When it's subtle and not hurting anyone we can tolerate it's existence while trying to change their minds, same goes for any worldview that believes something you don't.
I think what you fail to realize is that racism doesn't only come in one form (overt). ---openly displayed (ex. Kkk, hate crimes , job hiring , not being able to get into an establishment because no X race allowed etc). It comes in the covert form which is often swept under the rug. Just look how quickly , you dusted it under and made an explanation for it. There's a video circulating the web where 15 young men men paid 750 dollars to reserve a table at a night club (through the site website) . When the men arrived , although their name was on the list they were told they cannot enter into the club. They confronted the manager of the night club. he was in complete silence throughout the whole dispute. He allowed white people who reserved a table to enter. This is covert racism , one that is not widely displayed. Another example, I am set up on a blind date. Me and this person have every thing in common, when the color of my skin is revealed they dismiss the date. Again this is covert
racism. My attempts of this article is not to stop what will always exist (that's impossible). It's to make people aware of what is usually swept under the radar. There is no harm in spreading awareness. I have every right to that.
That sounds overt to me. But also, it can still fall under the asshole category, club owners can let in whoever they want in order to create the kind of environment they think will keep people coming.
I though you meant a study of 15 separate trials, but after looking at the video no it's just a group of 15 guys. There's not much to suggest it's racism. Even if their claim that a bunch of white people were let in after them well were there girls in that group? Because clubs often don't let in too many guys. They typically keep to gender ratios NO LESS than 50% female, often 66% female. In many cases only charging guys to get in. This is their business model. It's obviously unfair to guys, is that sexism then?
Even if it was racism, the guy can be a racist and still let people in from the demographic he doesn't like. If he was a racist *asshole* however, then that would be more in line with not letting them in.
It is the ACT of unjustified discrimination that makes racism wrong.
My gosh lol. Why are people including black women in their comments. This black woman doesn't five 2 craps if you dont find me attractive because I am black. Who are you again? No one
@SweetSourL LMAO thanks. My butt is just there, I never had to workout to get it tbh. It was bigger in middle school. It got smaller because I kinda stopped eating a lot. When I eat it goes to my butt and hips
@SweetSourL Could be for some but not for me. My thighs never gotten bigger and I hated it. I hated the fact that my butt kept growing but now my thigh has grown a bit too, I'm soooo happy
@Afrochick Yes girl. These dudes are something else lol. Was I supposed to cry because some dudes dont like me because of my skin color? Not my fault they're missing out lol
You don't get to decide to whom others are attracted, and no one is liable to explain his or her dating preferences to you. Posts like this come across as sheer bitterness aimed at all the men in the world who aren't interested in dating black women. That may seem harsh and unfair to you, but that doesn't give you the right to label anyone else a racist because he or she doesn't conform to your wishes. White guys don't owe you or any other black woman anything, not even an explanation as to why many of us choose not to date black women.
Anon, she didn't say it was wrong to have a preference when it comes to dating. It's totally okay to not be attracted to black women. She was just bringing to light, if you will, when it becomes racist.
@RainbowFanGirl No, she's saying that people who socialize with people of other races but don't commit to them are too stupid to realize that they're carrying around a cart full of repressed racism that keeps them from seeing the true beauty of the other race. That's nonsense. People like who they like.
I don't care if white guys don't date me because I am black. Do as you wish. I could careless. Who are ya'll? No one to me. I date who I want. Y'all date who y'all want.
@CapricornSwagL Good, then we're agreed. I couldn't care less who black women date. I don't call black women racists for wanting to only date black men, and y'all aren't going to be calling white guys racist for not dating black women.
Okay. Well I don't care that white guys won't date me. I dated a white guy before so yeah. :) There are white guys who will date is. I have a lovely guy as it is. I was just trying to clarify. Have a good day.
@RainbowFanGirl That's cool, you should date whoever makes you happy. I don't judge other people's dating habits. That seems to be a preoccupation of black women, not of white men.
So, many comments to respond to. Un fortunately my responses will be limited to users until I get to a computer tomorrow instead of typing from a phone. For now all I will say is this, Anonymous you are incorrect with your interpretation of my article. There isn't even a line in this article where I tell others who to date. In fact, I present the fact that people have a right to a preference. The division between person B and C lies in the fact that person B, simply is more attracted to members of their own race due to predisposition , environmental , societal and cultural factors. While Person C harbors hate , animosity , and negatives stigmas against other races and is trying to cover their ignorance up by saying "I have a preference " . I am simply exposing the fact that there racist out there who try to cover it up by putting on a front that is acceptable for society.
Also I have every right to label someone a racist , if they have every right to spread their ignorance about the negative stigmas i supposively have.. Your argument is that of a contradiction (saying it's ok for one and not the other ). I have every right to stand up and notice the negative traits other people possess.
So who made you the arbiter of who's racist and who's not? How do you know that people who claim to have a racial preference are filled with racist hate? The fact is, you don't. White guys don't walk around all day trying to figure out how to discriminate against black girls as a manifestation of our sublimated racism. White guys mostly don't care at all about black girls one way or another. We have our own concerns and lives to lead. It would be a waste of our lives and energy to spend time worrying over a group of people who a.) doesn't like us, and b.) sees us as all-purpose oppressors who are propped up by our 'white privilege.' So get over yourselves. The whole world doesn't go around worrying over racial issues and the social implications of dating choices.
It doesn't take much brain activity to come to the conclusion that if someone is making hateful comments or negative stigmas against other races , that they are racist. I guess in your eyes that should be viewed as love and completely acceptable. Anonymous , I question your logic. You're getting on the defense because of my formulated opinions about someone that chooses to suppress other races. Instead of calling the racist people out on their hatred and anger you decide to throw a fit with the person who recognizes the discrimination , and get on their case instead. Makes a lot of sense! I know white men dont go around speaking about these things. This is why I am speaking about a certain type of person , not all people as a whole . I love how you automatically make this a white and black thing as if no other races are hated or discriminated against. Your logic is irrational and doesn't make much sense because you are siding with the aggressor. You are a part of the problem.
Says the person lobbing derogatory and defamatory labels at others she doesn't know and hasn't met based on nothing more than their dating choices. If anyone is the problem here, it's people like yourself, social justice warriors who make careers out of tossing epithets against the wall like spaghetti to see what sticks. It's folks like you who attempt to create racial incidents and drama where none actually exist, so take a look in the mirror before you label anyone else "the problem."
Come back with a better argument. Apparently the only acceptable word usage comes from your race to suppress others. You're pretty much saying it's okay for someone to be slapped over and over, but not respond to it. I pity you. And wish you well ! Adios.
You're the one who needs a better argument because you're the one making claims, so the burden of prima facie falls on you. You're making claims that don't withstand the test of rationality, because they aren't founded upon any empirical evidence.
See, more unfounded name-calling. Apparently, spouting libelous nonsense at others is your go-to move when confronted by facts that don't jibe with your heavily biased world view.
We've become sensitive now have we? Because you've labeled me a lot things. Oh wait, that's right I get it. It's ok for you to throw the dish out like you have been all along but not ok for others to do the same. Listen, I have no idea where you get that I need evidence to back up my claims. If I blatantly get told black women have ugly features , are uneducated or ghetto I don't need any piece of paper to tell me that's racist. It's called common sense.
You called me a 'racist,' which is a very serious charge in this day and age. You called me that without any evidence to support the claim, and you did so because black people know that their rhetorical trump card is to call the opponent racist. I, on the other hand, haven't called you a single name. All I've done is point out the many inherent fallacies in your 'reasoning.'
I don't think you understand the impact of your disagreement with me. All along you've been pretty much vouching for the fact that it's ok for someone to make hateful comments , but not for someone to openly respond to it. Do you not see exactly the types of people you are siding with and the behaviors you are attempting to justify? I can't possibly believe someone who holds no discrimination in their heart would side with those who are clearly hateful and wrong.
How is a man's choice not to date women of a certain race "hateful"? You're putting words into the mouths of an entire group and ascribing thoughts to us that we simply don't think. You really need to get a grip on this issue and realize that white people do not exist as mirrors to simply reflect back to you whatever thoughts, feelings, and motivations you choose to ascribe to us. We're individuals each with our own personal agency, and our choices are our own, just as the choices of every other group belong to them. It's not your place to pass judgment concerning our motivations in who we date.
Again, in my article I openly did not disagree with people being able to have preferences. . My entire argument is solely those who make racist comments and try to hide themselves. If you're not that type of person, your preference does not bother me. My attempt is solely to expose people that are usually under the radar
You said, "That seems to be a preoccupation of black women, not of white men." Care to explain that comment? That seems like a negative stereotype of black women and that is exactly what we are talking about.
Dude you are a bigot. Again you state "... because black people know that their rhetorical trump card is to call the opponent racist." You keep posted negative comments about "black people". Not a particular person.
Would I be person A or C? I'm pretty much open to dating any race besides white people. I would prefer to be married to a black man and build my legacy with him though. In the end though I'd probably date or marry any race as long as he's not white. I don't hate white people and I'm not racists towards them I just couldn't date them. I don't find them physically attractive and to me their personalities aren't really attractive either. I don't think I'm racists though as I talk to and hang around everyone although I didn't want to state this originally in my comment since you said they hide behind the I have this race friend argument. It's true though I don't dislike them I just couldn't date them.
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I am a person "A type". But I still find issue with this. No one can know if someone is a B or a C there's nothing that could tell them with certainty. I see nothing wrong with preferences in certain appearances whether it be certain colors ages or shapes. It's like saying that a man shouldn't be attracted to women in general they should be attracted to every person (not that there's anything wrong with that either). What's lost in this shpeel is the understanding of the word racist it includes the concept of intention for w/o that everyone is racist and grossly so, that is more ignorant an ideology than white supremacy.
In all fairness since covert racist are usually subtle in their actions, it's hard to identify them. This post wasn't made so people can be able to tell the difference (because it's usually masked), it was made to make them aware that covert racism exist. I also hear people say anyone with a preference is racist. My efforts were to differentiate between one who has a preference and one that has hate. Preferences don't automatically equal racism , hatred does.
I wholeheartedly agree with your MyTake and you make a lot of valid points. Me personally I am willing to date anyone of any race so I identify as Person A. I am an open minded individual as I'm willing to learn about whomever I am dating and I don't have a preference when it comes to having a partner. I will say that there are a quite a few of people who are Person C but I tune these individuals out.
I'm half white but won't date white lol. It's still my own race, so it's not like I'm refusing to date outside my race or am a closet racist. I just don't find the skin tone that attractive and don't like purple/pink dicks, they don't look good to me at all. Really, I'm as much white as I am my other race, I'm 50/50 so I'm both.
What? Lol. I've only heard of homophobe when someone openly discriminates against them. But bi phone? Solely based off of the fact that you are straight makes no sense
Labels have huge impact when they aren't thrown around for just anything. If someone is openly discriminating then it's common they will be called a lot of different things. But simply being straight and called that is odd. Maybe those people were joking.
As a black female I'm pretty open to dating a guy of any race. As long as he's cute and his personality matches up. I have gone through phases were I was specifically crushing on guy's of one race. Like right now I've really got a thing for guy's of my own face
Because covert racism is usually masked , it is hard to spot. If someone says they do not date a race and then follows that line with negative stigmas, stereotypes , and insults then it's clear what to see this person is. He or she feels themselves superior , that is the reason why they will not date someone who is not their race.
Someone who has a racial preference (and solely that ), has nothing to say negatively about other races they simply share more of an attraction to their own than others.
Oh yeah I've answered this question on here a few days ago about someone asking if it's racist he won't date a certain race because "they're all ugly." :P
I fail to see how it makes one "close minded" if they choose B. I am not racist at all and I don't think there is any race that is any better or worse than any other. It just so happens that I have very rarely felt attraction to black women. I am not closed off to it and I don't have some "rule" against it, it simply hasn't happened very often. Should I attempt to force it in order to be seen as more open minded? Why should I?
If you shade main attraction towards the race of your own and are at least open to dating others, I'd consider you a mix of B and A because you aren't completely closed off to the idea.
Lol so many passive aggressive people in the comments, because you're saying they might be covert racists.
Which outcome is really better? Making overt racism socially acceptable again, so covert racists can come out to play or staying on this course, where they are just as angry as you are, because the gool ole days are no more where they "can be themselves"?
Black/Asian relationships are virtually non existent yet nobody seems to give a crap or even mention it. Do blacks and Asian have a secret pact that they will stay away from each other?
This must be a response to other users because I didn't label an identity of a couple. But anyway my observation is the same as yours. I notice that too
Why does it really matter? I always how I would date any race, cause I don't care about race, but I just haven't met any non-white/Mexican girls that I'm attracted to.
"Why does it really matter?" Is a question that can pertain to any aspect of life. If nothing ever mattered there would not be any rules, laws or regulations. The fact of the matter, people's actions have a way of affecting society especially when it's done to suppress groups that have to continuously fight for their rights. This article is out in place to bring something to light that is often overlooked.
@asker that would be the opposite of what I am saying. There are people who are strictly attracted to people with different phenotypes and opposite features. In other words, only white women who date black guys, or Asian men who only date white women. How is that similar features or phenotypes? Category B just mentions those who prefer dating their own race based out of attraction, but they don't harbor any negative feelings towards other races. Category A is for those who are open to dating anyone as long they connect with them. Race is basically an irrelevant factor for those types. You didn't mention those who exclusively date outside of their race. It's not a big deal, just something I noticed that you didn't cover.
I'm just telling you my observation , I am not excluding that although it is acknowledged. Too many sub categories complicate things. I wanted to be direct , precise and to the point. I wanted to cut the fat out of the article if you may. Listing what you have stated would have made no real significance in this article because it is not the highlight of it. Even though that extra category wasn't thrown in, I don't think many would care because it's not the topic of discussion.
If a girl your own race treated you ok but you connected more with a girl from a different race, who would you choose? If it's the girl who connected with you more then your preference is for whoever treats you right not necessarily phenotype.
"No preference" in my eyes mean sure you may be attracted to girl X more but you'll date whoever you connect with the most. You share connection with people in general not necessarily color.
Well yes, it'd be the girl I connected with more, you're right. I'm just talking physically, I'm much more likely to be attracted to someone my own race physically. But yeah, I'm person A.
LOL That's funny. I've seen your comments on posts guys made calling out girls, and you were caterwauling the loudest about the injustice of it all. You're in no position to cast stones, given your residence in that glass house of yours.
What would you classify those who are like. No I'm not racist but I just don't find anyone from race "X" attractive physically even though 1 of those person from said race would be a perfect match for me if they were not that race.
You have to ask yourself , why are you solely out to exclude someone based on their phenotype? Answer in honesty. Do you simply just share no attraction to that person? Or is society subconsciously influencing your discussions? Are stereotypes, negative stigmas , attached to the reason of why you wouldn't want to date that race? Do you feel your physical features in comparison are superior?
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Seems like a bit of a Kafka-trap so people can some can exercise power over some others. Now you have the ability to decide of a whim that anyone who hasn't dated outside there own race (even if they are "Person A") or anyone that says they just don't want to (as "Person B") is a racist and they are Kafka-trapped. Ostracize at will.
Besides, I don't think I'd have a problem with racists as long as they don't break the law or act unethically. People are allowed to feel however they want, hurting people is the real problem.
Yep, Kafka is a great reference point for what the author is intoning with this post.
I should probably elaborate that socially I would have a problem with racists, we're not really going to get along, but I don't want to go around shaming them, that's just being an asshole.
If you were the constant target of there attacks you would.
@ThePostMan But that means they are actively being assholes, that's different. That means I'm shaming them primarily because they are being assholes.
People are allowed to formulate an opinion. No, it does not have to reach a physical level for one to be able to place a judgment on it.
I don't know what trap you are referring to because I openly inferred having a preference is not the problem. When someone attaches hate , judgment , negative stigmas to an entire racial group then that goes beyond a simple preference, it is hate.
I am simply exposing hate is often there in our faces but is overlooked because the moment someone says , "I have a preference" it suddenly makes all of what they said ok.
"I don't want pale pink string haired babies so I will date a black man". Why would this be ok? Is it because the words "I have a preference" magically takes away everything?
Usually when people think of racism they think of it in its most extreme form.
Blatant and physically harmful. However most racism nowadays is subtle.
I am simply exposing that fact.
Not dictating what people should or should not do.
That just means you're not getting along with them socially, it's not quite them being full-on assholes but it's in the same vein. It's fine to not like someone for the things they say, it's not different from anyone else saying things you don't like: We have the freedom to hate things.
If they are discriminating where discrimination isn't acceptable (e. g employing an engineer) or "reach a physical level" then that's not ok. As long as they aren't doing any damage then we can all get on with our lives and attempt to win over their hearts and minds in the realm of ideas if we so choose.
A Kafka-trap is basically saying you're guilty and if you deny it then you're super guilty; an impossible situation to escape from. My issue it that you're creating the mental framework to ostracize people at will. When it's subtle and not hurting anyone we can tolerate it's existence while trying to change their minds, same goes for any worldview that believes something you don't.
I think what you fail to realize is that racism doesn't only come in one form (overt). ---openly displayed (ex. Kkk, hate crimes , job hiring , not being able to get into an establishment because no X race allowed etc).
It comes in the covert form which is often swept under the rug.
Just look how quickly , you dusted it under and made an explanation for it.
There's a video circulating the web where 15 young men men paid 750 dollars to reserve a table at a night club (through the site website) . When the men arrived , although their name was on the list they were told they cannot enter into the club. They confronted the manager of the night club. he was in complete silence throughout the whole dispute. He allowed white people who reserved a table to enter. This is covert racism , one that is not widely displayed.
Another example, I am set up on a blind date.
Me and this person have every thing in common, when the color of my skin is revealed they dismiss the date.
Again this is covert
racism. My attempts of this article is not to stop what will always exist (that's impossible). It's to make people aware of what is usually swept under the radar.
There is no harm in spreading awareness.
I have every right to that.
That sounds overt to me. But also, it can still fall under the asshole category, club owners can let in whoever they want in order to create the kind of environment they think will keep people coming.
I though you meant a study of 15 separate trials, but after looking at the video no it's just a group of 15 guys. There's not much to suggest it's racism. Even if their claim that a bunch of white people were let in after them well were there girls in that group? Because clubs often don't let in too many guys. They typically keep to gender ratios NO LESS than 50% female, often 66% female. In many cases only charging guys to get in. This is their business model. It's obviously unfair to guys, is that sexism then?
Even if it was racism, the guy can be a racist and still let people in from the demographic he doesn't like. If he was a racist *asshole* however, then that would be more in line with not letting them in.
It is the ACT of unjustified discrimination that makes racism wrong.
My gosh lol. Why are people including black women in their comments. This black woman doesn't five 2 craps if you dont find me attractive because I am black. Who are you again? No one
Haha Ikr! I realized that too. I dont know why they are saying "black women" in the first place.
@SweetSourL Right. This mytake isn't even about black women. Those men are obviously slow... lol
Yup girl. I'm guessing you're the black one? And I mean that in a non racist way. Promise :)
LMAO yes I am the black one @SweetSourL. The white girl is one of my best friends from college
I so knew that, just wanted to make sure. You're soooo beautiful and that ass is looking right girl haha
@SweetSourL LMAO thanks. My butt is just there, I never had to workout to get it tbh. It was bigger in middle school. It got smaller because I kinda stopped eating a lot. When I eat it goes to my butt and hips
That's so cool
@SweetSourL Could be for some but not for me. My thighs never gotten bigger and I hated it. I hated the fact that my butt kept growing but now my thigh has grown a bit too, I'm soooo happy
I see what you mean. Totally cool. Good luck with that
Ikr? They think we're insecure and salty that they don't "find us attarctive"
Like dude I don't care. 😂👏
Omfg yessss lol @RainbowFanGirl. I'm just like... dude who are you again? -_-
RIGHT? LOL
@Afrochick Yes girl. These dudes are something else lol. Was I supposed to cry because some dudes dont like me because of my skin color? Not my fault they're missing out lol
You don't get to decide to whom others are attracted, and no one is liable to explain his or her dating preferences to you. Posts like this come across as sheer bitterness aimed at all the men in the world who aren't interested in dating black women. That may seem harsh and unfair to you, but that doesn't give you the right to label anyone else a racist because he or she doesn't conform to your wishes. White guys don't owe you or any other black woman anything, not even an explanation as to why many of us choose not to date black women.
Anon, she didn't say it was wrong to have a preference when it comes to dating. It's totally okay to not be attracted to black women. She was just bringing to light, if you will, when it becomes racist.
@RainbowFanGirl No, she's saying that people who socialize with people of other races but don't commit to them are too stupid to realize that they're carrying around a cart full of repressed racism that keeps them from seeing the true beauty of the other race. That's nonsense. People like who they like.
I don't care if white guys don't date me because I am black. Do as you wish. I could careless. Who are ya'll? No one to me. I date who I want. Y'all date who y'all want.
@CapricornSwagL Good, then we're agreed. I couldn't care less who black women date. I don't call black women racists for wanting to only date black men, and y'all aren't going to be calling white guys racist for not dating black women.
Okay. Well I don't care that white guys won't date me. I dated a white guy before so yeah. :) There are white guys who will date is. I have a lovely guy as it is. I was just trying to clarify. Have a good day.
@RainbowFanGirl That's cool, you should date whoever makes you happy. I don't judge other people's dating habits. That seems to be a preoccupation of black women, not of white men.
So, many comments to respond to. Un fortunately my responses will be limited to users until I get to a computer tomorrow instead of typing from a phone. For now all I will say is this, Anonymous you are incorrect with your interpretation of my article. There isn't even a line in this article where I tell others who to date. In fact, I present the fact that people have a right to a preference. The division between person B and C lies in the fact that person B, simply is more attracted to members of their own race due to predisposition , environmental , societal and cultural factors. While Person C harbors hate , animosity , and negatives stigmas against other races and is trying to cover their ignorance up by saying "I have a preference " . I am simply exposing the fact that there racist out there who try to cover it up by putting on a front that is acceptable for society.
Also I have every right to label someone a racist , if they have every right to spread their ignorance about the negative stigmas i supposively have.. Your argument is that of a contradiction (saying it's ok for one and not the other ). I have every right to stand up and notice the negative traits other people possess.
So who made you the arbiter of who's racist and who's not? How do you know that people who claim to have a racial preference are filled with racist hate? The fact is, you don't. White guys don't walk around all day trying to figure out how to discriminate against black girls as a manifestation of our sublimated racism. White guys mostly don't care at all about black girls one way or another. We have our own concerns and lives to lead. It would be a waste of our lives and energy to spend time worrying over a group of people who a.) doesn't like us, and b.) sees us as all-purpose oppressors who are propped up by our 'white privilege.' So get over yourselves. The whole world doesn't go around worrying over racial issues and the social implications of dating choices.
It doesn't take much brain activity to come to the conclusion that if someone is making hateful comments or negative stigmas against other races , that they are racist. I guess in your eyes that should be viewed as love and completely acceptable.
Anonymous , I question your logic.
You're getting on the defense because of my formulated opinions about someone that chooses to suppress other races. Instead of calling the racist people out on their hatred and anger you decide to throw a fit with the person who recognizes the discrimination , and get on their case instead.
Makes a lot of sense!
I know white men dont go around speaking about these things. This is why I am speaking about a certain type of person , not all people as a whole .
I love how you automatically make this a white and black thing as if no other races are hated or discriminated against.
Your logic is irrational and doesn't make much sense because you are siding with the aggressor.
You are a part of the problem.
"You're a part of the problem."
Says the person lobbing derogatory and defamatory labels at others she doesn't know and hasn't met based on nothing more than their dating choices. If anyone is the problem here, it's people like yourself, social justice warriors who make careers out of tossing epithets against the wall like spaghetti to see what sticks. It's folks like you who attempt to create racial incidents and drama where none actually exist, so take a look in the mirror before you label anyone else "the problem."
Come back with a better argument.
Apparently the only acceptable word usage comes from your race to suppress others.
You're pretty much saying it's okay for someone to be slapped over and over, but not respond to it.
I pity you.
And wish you well !
Adios.
You're the one who needs a better argument because you're the one making claims, so the burden of prima facie falls on you. You're making claims that don't withstand the test of rationality, because they aren't founded upon any empirical evidence.
The only people getting offended by this posts are the covert racist. Sorry, I blew your cover and you have no where to hide.
See, more unfounded name-calling. Apparently, spouting libelous nonsense at others is your go-to move when confronted by facts that don't jibe with your heavily biased world view.
We've become sensitive now have we? Because you've labeled me a lot things.
Oh wait, that's right I get it.
It's ok for you to throw the dish out like you have been all along but not ok for others to do the same.
Listen, I have no idea where you get that I need evidence to back up my claims. If I blatantly get told black women have ugly features , are uneducated or ghetto I don't need any piece of paper to tell me that's racist. It's called common sense.
You called me a 'racist,' which is a very serious charge in this day and age. You called me that without any evidence to support the claim, and you did so because black people know that their rhetorical trump card is to call the opponent racist. I, on the other hand, haven't called you a single name. All I've done is point out the many inherent fallacies in your 'reasoning.'
I don't think you understand the impact of your disagreement with me. All along you've been pretty much vouching for the fact that it's ok for someone to make hateful comments , but not for someone to openly respond to it.
Do you not see exactly the types of people you are siding with and the behaviors you are attempting to justify? I can't possibly believe someone who holds no discrimination in their heart would side with those who are clearly hateful and wrong.
How is a man's choice not to date women of a certain race "hateful"? You're putting words into the mouths of an entire group and ascribing thoughts to us that we simply don't think. You really need to get a grip on this issue and realize that white people do not exist as mirrors to simply reflect back to you whatever thoughts, feelings, and motivations you choose to ascribe to us. We're individuals each with our own personal agency, and our choices are our own, just as the choices of every other group belong to them. It's not your place to pass judgment concerning our motivations in who we date.
Again, in my article I openly did not disagree with people being able to have preferences. . My entire argument is solely those who make racist comments and try to hide themselves.
If you're not that type of person, your preference does not bother me. My attempt is solely to expose people that are usually under the radar
Lol this was about every race but suddenly it's all about your little white ass again 😂
You said, "That seems to be a preoccupation of black women, not of white men." Care to explain that comment? That seems like a negative stereotype of black women and that is exactly what we are talking about.
Dude you are a bigot. Again you state "... because black people know that their rhetorical trump card is to call the opponent racist." You keep posted negative comments about "black people". Not a particular person.
Would I be person A or C? I'm pretty much open to dating any race besides white people. I would prefer to be married to a black man and build my legacy with him though. In the end though I'd probably date or marry any race as long as he's not white. I don't hate white people and I'm not racists towards them I just couldn't date them. I don't find them physically attractive and to me their personalities aren't really attractive either. I don't think I'm racists though as I talk to and hang around everyone although I didn't want to state this originally in my comment since you said they hide behind the I have this race friend argument. It's true though I don't dislike them I just couldn't date them.
I am a person "A type". But I still find issue with this. No one can know if someone is a B or a C there's nothing that could tell them with certainty. I see nothing wrong with preferences in certain appearances whether it be certain colors ages or shapes. It's like saying that a man shouldn't be attracted to women in general they should be attracted to every person (not that there's anything wrong with that either). What's lost in this shpeel is the understanding of the word racist it includes the concept of intention for w/o that everyone is racist and grossly so, that is more ignorant an ideology than white supremacy.
In all fairness since covert racist are usually subtle in their actions, it's hard to identify them.
This post wasn't made so people can be able to tell the difference (because it's usually masked), it was made to make them aware that covert racism exist.
I also hear people say anyone with a preference is racist. My efforts were to differentiate between one who has a preference and one that has hate.
Preferences don't automatically equal racism , hatred does.
I wholeheartedly agree with your MyTake and you make a lot of valid points. Me personally I am willing to date anyone of any race so I identify as Person A. I am an open minded individual as I'm willing to learn about whomever I am dating and I don't have a preference when it comes to having a partner. I will say that there are a quite a few of people who are Person C but I tune these individuals out.
Also @gobsmacked3 great minds think alike.
I'm half white but won't date white lol. It's still my own race, so it's not like I'm refusing to date outside my race or am a closet racist. I just don't find the skin tone that attractive and don't like purple/pink dicks, they don't look good to me at all.
Really, I'm as much white as I am my other race, I'm 50/50 so I'm both.
Wow I never knew color of my dick mattered too until I read your opinion lol...
Don't worry, to most people it doesn't. And to some, they really prefer the color of a white guys dick.
Nice myTake. This isn't related to race but I've been called a bi-phobe because I said I only date heterosexuals. *shrug*
What? Lol.
I've only heard of homophobe when someone openly discriminates against them.
But bi phone? Solely based off of the fact that you are straight makes no sense
*biphobe
Labels have huge impact when they aren't thrown around for just anything. If someone is openly discriminating then it's common they will be called a lot of different things. But simply being straight and called that is odd. Maybe those people were joking.
Heh, yeah. Unfortunately they weren't joking. I've stopped caring about it though. The people who say it always compare it to racism. :/
As a black female I'm pretty open to dating a guy of any race. As long as he's cute and his personality matches up. I have gone through phases were I was specifically crushing on guy's of one race. Like right now I've really got a thing for guy's of my own face
The only preference I have is dating within the 'human race'
What's with the guys hating on this tho? 😂
Why are so many guys hating on this? My goodness, people are so sensitive.
Why are people hating lol? Are the aliens offended?
8 people must like to fuck dogs or something like that.
I agree with this post, however I find it really really hard to determine who's having a racial preference and who's just really racist..
Because covert racism is usually masked , it is hard to spot.
If someone says they do not date a race and then follows that line with negative stigmas, stereotypes , and insults then it's clear what to see this person is. He or she feels themselves superior , that is the reason why they will not date someone who is not their race.
Someone who has a racial preference (and solely that ), has nothing to say negatively about other races they simply share more of an attraction to their own than others.
Oh yeah I've answered this question on here a few days ago about someone asking if it's racist he won't date a certain race because "they're all ugly." :P
Well , he's immediately feeling as if he's superior then isn't he?
He didn't just state he's unattracted. He felt the need to demean and insult.
Yeah and the best thing is I think he actually
Blocked me after I said that I think it's racist
What race was it?
@RainbowFanGirl I don't know as he was anonymous ( like they usually are) and just said "certain race"
I fail to see how it makes one "close minded" if they choose B.
I am not racist at all and I don't think there is any race that is any better or worse than any other. It just so happens that I have very rarely felt attraction to black women. I am not closed off to it and I don't have some "rule" against it, it simply hasn't happened very often. Should I attempt to force it in order to be seen as more open minded? Why should I?
If you shade main attraction towards the race of your own and are at least open to dating others, I'd consider you a mix of B and A because you aren't completely closed off to the idea.
*share
Lol so many passive aggressive people in the comments, because you're saying they might be covert racists.
Which outcome is really better? Making overt racism socially acceptable again, so covert racists can come out to play or staying on this course, where they are just as angry as you are, because the gool ole days are no more where they "can be themselves"?
Why is that every time interracial relationships are brought up it always involves white people?
https://www.blogher.com/files/divorce_3.jpg
Black/Asian relationships are virtually non existent yet nobody seems to give a crap or even mention it. Do blacks and Asian have a secret pact that they will stay away from each other?
This must be a response to other users because I didn't label an identity of a couple.
But anyway my observation is the same as yours. I notice that too
Why does it really matter?
I always how I would date any race, cause I don't care about race, but I just haven't met any non-white/Mexican girls that I'm attracted to.
"Why does it really matter?" Is a question that can pertain to any aspect of life.
If nothing ever mattered there would not be any rules, laws or regulations.
The fact of the matter, people's actions have a way of affecting society especially when it's done to suppress groups that have to continuously fight for their rights.
This article is out in place to bring something to light that is often overlooked.
Person C is a very small minority and they'll either be non-existent over time, or impossible to get rid of.
The "minority" is much bigger than you think. It's consider such because it's often overlooked.
You forgot the person who has a preference for one outside of their race. Either way good mytake.
Thanks. I didn't want to make things too complex. Too many categories always makes things more complicated.
And if you read category B, I stated in the last line that they are open to their own phenotype or those with similar features (other race)
Either way I notice those that do prefer at least one race outside of their own tend to get a person with similar characteristics
@asker that would be the opposite of what I am saying. There are people who are strictly attracted to people with different phenotypes and opposite features. In other words, only white women who date black guys, or Asian men who only date white women. How is that similar features or phenotypes? Category B just mentions those who prefer dating their own race based out of attraction, but they don't harbor any negative feelings towards other races. Category A is for those who are open to dating anyone as long they connect with them. Race is basically an irrelevant factor for those types. You didn't mention those who exclusively date outside of their race. It's not a big deal, just something I noticed that you didn't cover.
I'm just telling you my observation , I am not excluding that although it is acknowledged.
Too many sub categories complicate things.
I wanted to be direct , precise and to the point.
I wanted to cut the fat out of the article if you may.
Listing what you have stated would have made no real significance in this article because it is not the highlight of it.
Even though that extra category wasn't thrown in, I don't think many would care because it's not the topic of discussion.
Thanks for you input !
I respect it which is why I gave you a thumbs up.
@asker Fair enough, most of your focus tended to be on group C.
This is oversimplified. I'm mostly attracted to my own race, but that doesn't I mean it's impossible that I'd ever date outside it.
You are open to dating others.
You're person A.
Well yes but your description says I have no preference, and I do have a preference. I just don't rule other races out.
If a girl your own race treated you ok but you connected more with a girl from a different race, who would you choose?
If it's the girl who connected with you more then your preference is for whoever treats you right not necessarily phenotype.
"No preference" in my eyes mean sure you may be attracted to girl X more but you'll date whoever you connect with the most. You share connection with people in general not necessarily color.
Well yes, it'd be the girl I connected with more, you're right. I'm just talking physically, I'm much more likely to be attracted to someone my own race physically. But yeah, I'm person A.
What's up with most guys being so salty over this? Lmao.
Ikr? 😂 I don't know why people are getting mad.
@RainbowFanGirl I guess they felt this indignant in their past lives when they were told the Earth is not actually flat.
LOL That's funny. I've seen your comments on posts guys made calling out girls, and you were caterwauling the loudest about the injustice of it all. You're in no position to cast stones, given your residence in that glass house of yours.
@BigJake that's something a salty person would say
Takes one to know one, doll.
@BigJake lol whatever.
What would you classify those who are like. No I'm not racist but I just don't find anyone from race "X" attractive physically even though 1 of those person from said race would be a perfect match for me if they were not that race.
You have to ask yourself , why are you solely out to exclude someone based on their phenotype? Answer in honesty.
Do you simply just share no attraction to that person?
Or is society subconsciously influencing your discussions? Are stereotypes, negative stigmas , attached to the reason of why you wouldn't want to date that race?
Do you feel your physical features in comparison are superior?
I'm type B personally, I simply have no attraction however do not let that affect my opinion of the race or individual