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Most are common sense! #3 and 4 really depend on the woman though. Just because you and your group of gfs don't like it don't mean other girls don't, infact many like both. Although guys don't want to make girls uncomfortable, if they see you are, they should stop, if they really care about you.
Guys have to pay and girls have to give sex. Sorry, that's the rule...
What? You don't think we are entitled to sex? Then you are not entitled to a free meal. You don't want to owe anything? Pay your share.
Woman are not prostitute.
Well not all woman.
If you don't like being considered like a prostitute, then pay for your meals. This way everybody is happy. It's simple.
Why is it wrong to take a girl out and pay for her meal? What's your excuse? Guys don't do this anymore? My fiance paid for are first date... wasn't a big deal I didn't have sex with him that day either... we actually went on plenty of more dates that I paid for too. It's not mandatory to do so... but it's very sweet and shows that you care and don't mind spending money. It doesn't mean that you have to pay for every date.
It's not wrong to do it. It's wrong to expect it or even demand it. You are acting like entitled princesses.
@Twix005 exactly, women aren't prostitutes. And men aren't your personal ATM. It's not okay to expect the guy to pay for the first date.
Everyone who down voted missed the joke. Lol
Sex has been throughout all of human history a business engagement. Women married men who their dad's sold them to and the men got sex and later children. Women got a steady income without working a job outside of the home and while this is less direct that was functionally prostitution. In the modern world men pay for dates and buy presents (men are expected to women can as far as social standards go) and women return the favor with sex so yeah pretty much every woman is a prostitute (prostitutes are usually cheaper though and yield no risk of not getting laid.)
I'm just here to see how butthurt guys are going to get about #8 :)
Nah, you're just a troll looking for hand outs because you think you're entitled because you have a pussy. Equality my ass. HAHAHAHA
Hence, why you're hiding like a little anon coward.
@tyrantfuryre haha see you guys never surprise me :)
And girls are predictable.
Smh lol
AAHAHAHAHAH CHEAP BASTARDS
OR
Instead of wasting your money on paying for females you could just use your phone when the need arises.
All that money you waste on paying for female time and consumption could go to buying you a MUCH better car. Even a condo. And holidays to Brazil where females treat you with respect. Brazilian females don't demand to be treated equally then demand you pay for them.
Yes they do. What state have you visited? Im planning my next summer.
I knew all this. Isn't it common sense? It disturbs me that it's not.
What, the? I have to [at least offer to] pay and then there're are all these rules, what on earth is this? What does She have to do? [if anything]
Be there cause you asked her to be.
@Twix005 That is ridiculous. She is an adult and is capable of paying her fair share.
@Dark_Scorpio Yeah but if you asked to take her out... then you should pay... why wouldn't you?
I just said why. She's an adult. Plus that whole whoever ask pays thing is bullshit because for guys do majority of the asking and second I don't know her. So if she pays for herself and I pay for me then if the date goes bad no one loses much. Isn't being equal fun.
I also want to add the the guy paying thing happened only because in the beginning women weren't really allowed to work so back then it was really only men with money. That isn't the case today so it means nothing now.
So, suppose I pay [for the whole damn ordeal], would it still be rude of me to make a tiny request? Or is she like the audience and I the fool who has to entertain her? Please, educate me!
@Dark_Scorpio You want to take her out but you can't pay... it's rare that a girl will find this okay... look at the down votes... I'm giving you advice take it lol.
Spending of few buck on a girl really bothers you huh? lol
Yeah you can keep your advice to yourself because it's worthless. Why would I spend money on someone I don't know basically giving that persona free meal when I have no guarantee of getting anything from it and not I don't mean sex?
@Twix005 Problem isn't spending some money. Let us ask, instead, why should she be worth the trouble? Is she doing a favor to me by going out with me?
What these sort of topics come down to eventually is "how you're suppose to be on equal ground.." and yade yade yade.
So how does this playschool routine work, exactly?
I am so happy for the first one, don't your ex even if you were asked. My husband went on and on about his ex, what an idiot. He is so lucky I am so forgiving.
If a guy asks a girl out, she's not obligated to help pay on the first date. She can offer, and he can split the bill with her.
If a girl asks a guy out, he's not obligated to help pay on the first date. He can offer, and she can split the bill with him.
are women willing to follow the same steps
i doubt that
first date : free meal for women
If she asked you out on the date then yeah.
i doubt that 2016 and most woman wait for the guy to make the first move
Should be labeled "10 things all guys and girls should know before going on a date" because girls do this stuff too
Except for that double standard paying for you crap lol have yet to meet a girl that hase ever offered and really ment it
Well excuse me... but you can make a mytake about girls then.. cause this one is my opinions on guys.
You're excuses for having a shitty opinions. XD
Lol at all the sour girls
Agree with all but number 8. If the girl was actually interested in me and not a free ride she wouldn't mind paying for herself. Girls want their cake and to eat it too nut will end up with neither.
I really don't like the whole guys have to pay kind of thing to be honest.
only if you asked her out... then yeah you should.
deal with it
Lol you have literally commented on every message on this post. You really are opinionated on getting men to pay for you. You are the equivalent of a prostitute lol, literally.
@Afrochick no dice
not so, if your dating and the girl suggests you go see a movie or go out together, your still paying therefore your point is irrelevant
''Deal with it''... actually I will pay for the first one... after that if she expects me to pay... lol there are plenty of girls that are happy to split the bill. It's an easy way to weed out the shitty women. Girls who expect men to pay will try and convince guys it is the norm as you can see Twix has commented on literally every message on this thread spreading her opinion.
I wish women were more honest about their opinions in person. On here they do act a lot less timid than in person. seriously see it as a good thing... it makes finding good women easier if the shit ones get the hump because they are paying for their shit lol.
LMAOOOOOO
1-7 can be applied to women also.
8 who says the guy asked the woman for a date when it could have been the other way around.
9 women shouldn't check out others also.
10 when shouldn't bring up sex either then
These aren't so unreasonable. But, for some reason I feel like I would never want to date the girl who wrote this.
sounds good until you hear about how you got friendzoned while that dude who pushed for a bj actually got it and now he has a friends with benefits
Oh My God...
When will some of these girls learn... how many more of these does someone have to post...
95% of us WON'T PAY FOR YOUR FOOD!
IT'S 2016!
Yeah where are all the real in man 2016?
The kind gentleman?
Not these cheap boys with these lame excuses.
*real man
Those "real men" have smartened up because of girls like this:
www.theglobeandmail.com/.../
I honestly don't get how some girls are confused that guys won't pay for their food... I really don't.
@Twix005 if you "expect" him to pay for your stuff, then I hope you "expect" to open your legs for him on the first date as well. Same traditional values, same sexism. You are so entitled.
@Kirah No man should expect a decent women to open her legs up for him on the first date paying or not paying... Guys should get to know a woman first before taking her out on a date anyways. So if he does pay for thier first date he will feel more better about it. What is wrong is man shouldn't feel that they need sex from a girl just cause he's paying for a first date. Men need to have more respect for women & stop dating wrong girls... that make them think like a fuck boy & that's real.
I disagree with #8 why I have to pay it when we are equal? I'm not interested in gold digger. Otherwise, if I'm not interested in her I still have to pay bill?
Whether it's friends, family, or a date - if you ASK someone for the pleasure of their company, then you offer to pay unless you can both agree on splitting the costs. If a guy asked me out to dinner and a hockey game - dinner maybe $30 per person, tickets being $100 each, and I said yes, but he turned around and said, "Okay your half will be $80." What if I don't have it? Does he awkwardly say, "Okay should we do something cheaper so you can afford it?" Here I am, someone minding my business and being asked out, and then I'm strapped with a bill I didn't expect to pay with someone I have agreed to try to get to know too.
It's the same for anyone asking anyone out, guy or girl. If you extend the invite, you should be prepared to pay for the outing. "Wanna grab some coffee with me?" - said one friend to the other. "Sure," they say. "Good. Um, you gonna bring five bucks with you?" Usually between friends you can establish who pays each time. But big invites? It's courtesy.
Whoops, math really off, sorry. I meant $65 each. :)
@Ozanne I don't mind to pay cheap somewhere for us but expensive place I rather pay half.
Then it's only fair to the girl to be upfront about that. Not many women will object to honesty about money. If you were to say, "I'd love to go to a hockey game with you, but I can't afford another ticket, do you want to go if you can pay this other ticket?" If she likes you and can afford it herself, no doubt she'll agree. But it's unfair to spring it on any person you go someplace with if you're the one doing the inviting, cooking up the plans, and then tell them later on, "I can't believe you didn't pay for half of this." In Europe I guess it's different. Even if it's friends, if someone does the inviting out, it means "I'm 'inviting' you, I'm treating you, I'm asking you to spend time with me if you'll accept." I can't help but notice how cheap some Canadians and Americans are about these things. Even when I ask someone out, and they throw me money later on, I have to remind myself it's because they want to help, not because they are buying their way out of an invite.
@Ozanne Really? this is the first I've heard of it like that, if I ask my friends f they want to hang out I don't pay for them ever. If I'm going on a date then I'll pay half for that I don't expect nothing but his attention and time. Otherwise it's unfair, if the universal rule is three dates to see who is compatible then thats a lot of money he's forking out, I'd hate to have that much spent on me.
@19magic AMEN!!! You nailed it.
"Otherwise it's unfair, if the universal rule is three dates to see who is compatible then thats a lot of money he's forking out, I'd hate to have that much spent on me."
I think this is the point that gets overlooked so much. And those 3 dates add up if each of the girls decides it's not gonna work after 3 dates. I'm glad someone understands.
@Botchie I seem to be the only one then, on this site lol
@19magic It could just be a generation difference, but it's just a given where I'm from. Perhaps it's a bit more casual in the UK? I've never been there.
@Ozanne I donno haven't really gone out in the big wide world, but I don't think dates are all too common. At least not my generation, and even then it's normally anniversaries between couples. Hell my dad and his partner went on their first date, a kid and four years later.
It's normally a group thing or a double/triple date. If not that then a lunch thing.
I agree, except when girls are the ones on their phone and ignoring me... that's annoying.
I dont spend anymore than 20$ on a girl first date lol. Thats it. Anyone who spends more than 40 or 50 is trying way too hard and is doing it wrong
Don't ask her out on a date that you can afford. Simple as that.
cant*
So you are a gold digger. Man, these little girls of today..
Lmao at the guy who downvoted me. I bet you're one of those guys that goes all out on the first date. Thats how you end up used for what you offer. Idiot lol. You end up screening so much by following my rule. 40-50 should be for someone you ACTUALLY see potential with, not a first date meet a greet lol, good luck
I would have to agree with this.
I would ad that the guy should offer to pick her up for the date. Shows class
Want us to wipe your ass for you too? :D
That's a plus c:
Get a job and drive or take the bus to the date yourself.