It is true how women treat social media abd the immature lies im single and have two kids with my bm but we didn't work out and i have a lot of girls Hmu in realtionships and marriages but scared to leave their bf's due to the money situation and their children but there still dtfi dont turn them down but i just think of it as sad lol and which is why i never persue realtionships anymore, not ever girk is like that but i dont trust lol even my fiends girl wants me lucky it my friend if she wasn't you know the rest lol
Don't give up, though. That's quite the global defiance; never to love again?
Also, it's your personality they rank as most important (not getting into a back and forth on this one... I've experienced enough to know it.). All else is a bonus.
Stepping back, a lot of women on here have little to no sympathy for this. I mean, you did nothing but drag women through the dirt and blame us for your predicament. But a lot of guys resonate with what was said, which is sad. And not to be mean, but then I remember I'm on GaG. Guys :/ I wish you could see how good it can be with the right girl. I know there are some really good guys on here, and I really hope you guys find your perfect person. <3
No, You say i dragged you women through the dirt. You're wrong. I am brutally honest and i will tell it like it is. People don't like the cold hard truth.
You haven't the spoken the truth at all :) Or you just have incredibly terrible luck with women (which doesn't make me a bad woman or girlfriend) it just makes you unlucky.
You say that girls like confident and romantic guys because of media rather than biology. Confident is sexy, romance is alluring. You might not have either and the issue with insecurity in males is that it causes girls to dislike you which makes you even more insecure. Terrible cycle. You should cut out of the cycle by figuring out how to be confident.
Dude, you can give up on whatever you want to give up, you don't need to explain why you chose to do that to anybody especially by portrying other gender in bad colors only. If you think giving up will bring more adventages to your life than disadvantages, then do that, it's your life, and you live it.
But when this constantly happens to you maybe you picking these type of women? I meant there so many people who if this person is this or that they off my dating list right away. I meant hey if your not attractive your not attractive but I heard a statistic that women in America are having an issue finding guys now most girls are going to be single. Because of the fact they are refusing to look at guys without university/college degrees.
This coming from a guy who has been with his wife for almost 4 years now. If you don't want to date just don't. I don't believe everyone is meant to be in a relationship and that's fine. What isn't cool is some of the women on here trying to shame you for that. It's your life, live it how you see fit.
I recommend you find an Amish colony or move to an Islamic country where I guarantee you the wives will never leave or be able to leave without your full consent. And you won’t have to worry about the girls rejecting you for looks. You should work on your financial status, but it’s not like the women of the places I mentioned would be as picky as the women in America.
@Kit_Kat88 Because he is complaining about how it’s so easy for people to leave a marriage. Well, if there are more strict rules put in place he won’t have that problem.
I don't really care what you do, but I'm intrigued by your definition of 'love'. It seems like 'love' to you is needing a husband/wife to survive? That seems like the opposite, that seems like getting married because you have to, not out of love, and not divorcing even though you maybe cannot stand your husband/wife, because you wouldn't survive?
Isn't it a good thing that you no longer need to be married as soon as possible, but can actually look for love?
i agree with you because for as long as i can remember, i've always hated, detested, despised, loathed, on how it's always the mans job to approach and make the first move, be the initiator, take the lead, in the dating/mating game, i wonder if the reason why i feel that way has to do with my parental upbringing or childhood social experiences, or if i'm just a genetically natural born Beta or Omega Male
Seems to me you didn't have good experiences in your love life. But don't give up and don't blame all women for that.
For a long time I was broke, I ~never~ owned a car and I still had my fair share of girlfriends who I truly believe loved me.
I think you're investing time in the wrong relationships, maybe hanging out with the wrong people. There's love out there. There are plenty of nice women who want a guy despite any of the things you mentioned.
Boohoo. Women are the worst, love is dead. Its not because I'm a sorry ass who cry nice guy and whines constantly.
Well cool, I just don't understand why these guys always have to write these damn articles. I mean you do know that even pity party will not get you a girl. lol
@Mi2mi2a Because no one, not guys nor girls, wants to actually build a bond with someone and grow close. Not just through sex. Through experiences thick and thin. Everyone's a goddamned window shopper, ready to split at the first sign of a 'better choice', rather than working to make the love that they have now the best of their lives.
People have become property in every sense of the word in the dating game. There is no more love. Just sex.
@Onidandal Is there some data? like a comprison data of love; before and now. You know why you can"t put love in a data, because you can't quantify it. You can't say there is no longer any love because through your persona lenses you don't see it.
and maybe if you actually believe in what you said, why don't you become the change? why not look for love? it can not just be dead, love is something a couple creates it doesn't exist beforehand.
The only timeframe in this source where, in America, love was more emotional than lustful, was the 1800s-1900s. Which, unfortunately, had a lot to do with the Catholic Church and the limiting views of such, but it does show the existence of attainable deeper bonds.
There are multiple kinds of love, and two of the most present have been passionate love and companionate love. Passionate love is horny. It's the mega highs and lows that you experience earlier on. Companionate love is what you potentially experience later on, when your passion slowly burns out, but what's left is warmth and closeness. Unfortunately, people only stay together for a few months at a time until they find a new lay.
The idea that you contain an emotion that is impossible to quantify is the height of hubris. You're human. Just like everyone else. Your emotions can be inspected, played with, and measured. And they probably have been, at one point or another. Your version of love is a fantasy. Currently, with the hookup culture that has been growing for the past few decades, empty passion has been pursued.
Speaking of hubris, though, it is also the height of such to believe that any one person could be any sort of change in societal trends. Which is why I know full well that any effort I put through is futile. If everyone's hooking up, how are they going to hear me over their sexual moaning? Meanwhile, while rates of hookups have increased, and we've been isolating ourselves from important connections, rates of mental illness and drug abuse have gone up. We cannot sustain our current culture.
It is a sad reality plaguing society today, people find it easier to just walk away than fix their problems. I can't do this so I am going to run away and make the same mistakes in the next relationship! What is even worse... This behaviour is socially excepted.
Its funny that you wrote this about women because I have always thought that men are like this. Just replace the word money with sex.
We live in crazy time and I know it may seem so hard to stay positive when there is so much negative around you, but please don't give up. Love for you might be closer than you think.
“Don't give up before the miracle happens.” ― Fannie Flagg, I Still Dream About You
Wanting the body of the opposite gender, the gender you are supposed to be attracted to isn't bad, it's still attraction to the person! Money is trade for almost everything, wanting that in a relationship makes you a product, a prostitute, and is not attraction to the person by any measure.
Sorry that it did not work out for you. But you also have to see from the girl point of view. It might be some other reason whý she left you. If you are the reason or not, is not something i`m going to judge. But to say EVERY girl is like that is just plain mean and incorrect.
I´m not like that, no one i know is like that. I think you have just met the wrong ones in your life
I think you should keep looking and you might find the true one. Good luck and don`t give up!
The hard part is they (in my experience) never tell you why they want to stop seeing you. I understand to an extent why they do that (Some guys can be super clingy/obsessive or aggressive/mean) if they find out why. But to do it after one date, then ghost me all together, it kinda leaves a huge whole in my confidence. Rinse and repeat this a couple of times and so it gets hard after a while to keep faking the confidence when there is a giant gaping whole from all the other times of being rejected/ghosted for seemingly no reason.
I do agree with you that it's not fair to say every girl is like that. But the odds of finding a girl who 1) likes a guy and 2) isn't like that is extremely slim, especially since they are usually taken. I know girls have the same problems that guys are jerks and they can't find a good enough compromise either.
@Botchie Yeah well all i can say about that is that you have had a bad luck when it comes to dating. at least where i`m from money is barely the issue. All the girls here are very independent. I guess it`s a cultural thing. Neither is the attractiveness a big role in relationship here, but more the personality.
Either it`s you who is the problem or the person you`re dating is very shallow. But no matter what the cause is a person should always tell the reason. And i agree with you on that. This happens to the both genders equally
@Blanchmess I 100% agree with you that it's a cultural thing. Yeah, I personally have had bad luck with dating, but I think for the average guy on here with the same issue as me has it because of the culture the women we try to date are from. I also believe that independent women are arguably better to date. My ex was super dependent on me and I felt more like a parent than I did a partner. Attractiveness is another issue, but that's another topic for another day. And lastly, if the other person told the reason they were uninterested (as long as it is legit and honest), we would know the answer to if it's the person being shallow or a character flaw in myself.
@Botchie Yeah i agree in what you said last. We would still call the person shallow no matter what. But i would rather know the truth than just being ignored. Which is how many guys feel. Sadly some girls just tend to not have empathy for the guy and leave the guy wonder instead, vice versa
But what happens if something unexpected occurs and you become bankrupt or in serious financial debts such as from some unexpected and serious illness or trauma. Those medical bills can drain you quickly. Unless somehow the BOTH of you are wealthy this might not be a big deal, but if your partner wasn't financially stable and had lots of financial debts too then that would be problematic.
All the more reason I would never be willing to trust anyone else at all. Trust is required and so is risks, and if someone is not ever willing to risk and trust then there is no point in pursuing a relationship, or even bother to date anyone. Although you also have the players that just want to fuck around and have fun.
The entire money system is horrible mess and unbalanced anyway. The uneven distribution of wealth. Besides I think some day there is gonna be a financial collapse or economic collapse or something and then the whole money system won't really even matter any more. Although it won't happen anytime soon, but eventually I think it would and that it is inevitable.
I've never met a man with money who walks around womenless. I'd rather be used for my money and have sex with beautiful women than be some average chump or simpy nice guy who gets used by plain Janes and has to be left scraps or whales that no man wants. I'd rather die or be an incel for the rest of my life than settle for scraps. An besides... there's always whores
It is inevitable, history repeats itself. There will be another large scale global conflict, but before it can occur, it always starts by building up from the tiny problems that grew out of control. Once it collapses a whole great depression will occur, much worse than before and then from there eventually ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE. It just takes a spark to trigger the dominoes to fall as that happened in the last two World Wars. One major event that will trigger a BIG conflict worldwide.
We're not gonna make it. Humans aren't going to change the way their nature are. They will ultimately destroy each other, this planet, and every other living things as the result of their greedy ambitions. Even if another global war doesn't end it for us, climate change will because humans fucked up the environment and compromised the integrity of the ecosystem. It just sucks that we are dragged into this crapsack world without our consent.
I have said for a long time now that if me and my fiance ever split up then I am more than happy to just not bother with looking for a relationship unless I am approached by someone, there is only so much effort a man can be expected to put in after all!
Oh hun, you are thinking wrong. Do not beat urself up. Maybe you are looking at the wrong girls, I dont know? Women in general are not that complicated... Seriously.
Hey mate save your pennies and go to Thailand, meet nice girls, make sure they are not party girls, because they basically prostitute themselves to stay alive, meet her family, immerse yourself in another culture, and get out of the funk you are in. You just need a holiday, shake your world up, and find yourself and what you really want.
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It is true how women treat social media abd the immature lies im single and have two kids with my bm but we didn't work out and i have a lot of girls Hmu in realtionships and marriages but scared to leave their bf's due to the money situation and their children but there still dtfi dont turn them down but i just think of it as sad lol and which is why i never persue realtionships anymore, not ever girk is like that but i dont trust lol even my fiends girl wants me lucky it my friend if she wasn't you know the rest lol
@RainbowFanGirl said it best.
Don't give up, though. That's quite the global defiance; never to love again?
Also, it's your personality they rank as most important (not getting into a back and forth on this one... I've experienced enough to know it.). All else is a bonus.
Thank you :)
Stepping back, a lot of women on here have little to no sympathy for this. I mean, you did nothing but drag women through the dirt and blame us for your predicament. But a lot of guys resonate with what was said, which is sad. And not to be mean, but then I remember I'm on GaG. Guys :/ I wish you could see how good it can be with the right girl. I know there are some really good guys on here, and I really hope you guys find your perfect person. <3
No, You say i dragged you women through the dirt. You're wrong. I am brutally honest and i will tell it like it is. People don't like the cold hard truth.
You haven't the spoken the truth at all :) Or you just have incredibly terrible luck with women (which doesn't make me a bad woman or girlfriend) it just makes you unlucky.
You say that girls like confident and romantic guys because of media rather than biology. Confident is sexy, romance is alluring. You might not have either and the issue with insecurity in males is that it causes girls to dislike you which makes you even more insecure. Terrible cycle. You should cut out of the cycle by figuring out how to be confident.
Dude, you can give up on whatever you want to give up, you don't need to explain why you chose to do that to anybody especially by portrying other gender in bad colors only. If you think giving up will bring more adventages to your life than disadvantages, then do that, it's your life, and you live it.
But when this constantly happens to you maybe you picking these type of women? I meant there so many people who if this person is this or that they off my dating list right away. I meant hey if your not attractive your not attractive but I heard a statistic that women in America are having an issue finding guys now most girls are going to be single. Because of the fact they are refusing to look at guys without university/college degrees.
Right now I'm trying to find guys I'm attractive too but I'm trying to be reasonable. So maybe look if you doing this without knowing it?
But there isn’t someone for everyone
This coming from a guy who has been with his wife for almost 4 years now. If you don't want to date just don't. I don't believe everyone is meant to be in a relationship and that's fine. What isn't cool is some of the women on here trying to shame you for that. It's your life, live it how you see fit.
I recommend you find an Amish colony or move to an Islamic country where I guarantee you the wives will never leave or be able to leave without your full consent. And you won’t have to worry about the girls rejecting you for looks. You should work on your financial status, but it’s not like the women of the places I mentioned would be as picky as the women in America.
The wife would stay because she’s forced to then. How’s that any better than being alone
@Kit_Kat88
Because he is complaining about how it’s so easy for people to leave a marriage. Well, if there are more strict rules put in place he won’t have that problem.
I don't really care what you do, but I'm intrigued by your definition of 'love'. It seems like 'love' to you is needing a husband/wife to survive? That seems like the opposite, that seems like getting married because you have to, not out of love, and not divorcing even though you maybe cannot stand your husband/wife, because you wouldn't survive?
Isn't it a good thing that you no longer need to be married as soon as possible, but can actually look for love?
i agree with you because for as long as i can remember, i've always hated, detested, despised, loathed, on how it's always the mans job to approach and make the first move, be the initiator, take the lead, in the dating/mating game, i wonder if the reason why i feel that way has to do with my parental upbringing or childhood social experiences, or if i'm just a genetically natural born Beta or Omega Male
Seems to me you didn't have good experiences in your love life. But don't give up and don't blame all women for that.
For a long time I was broke, I ~never~ owned a car and I still had my fair share of girlfriends who I truly believe loved me.
I think you're investing time in the wrong relationships, maybe hanging out with the wrong people. There's love out there. There are plenty of nice women who want a guy despite any of the things you mentioned.
Good luck. ;)
Boohoo. Women are the worst, love is dead. Its not because I'm a sorry ass who cry nice guy and whines constantly.
Well cool, I just don't understand why these guys always have to write these damn articles. I mean you do know that even pity party will not get you a girl. lol
Love is dead though he ain’t wrong about that
@TheUglyMan Oh yeah? how? why?
@Mi2mi2a Because no one, not guys nor girls, wants to actually build a bond with someone and grow close. Not just through sex. Through experiences thick and thin. Everyone's a goddamned window shopper, ready to split at the first sign of a 'better choice', rather than working to make the love that they have now the best of their lives.
People have become property in every sense of the word in the dating game. There is no more love. Just sex.
@Onidandal Is there some data? like a comprison data of love; before and now.
You know why you can"t put love in a data, because you can't quantify it. You can't say there is no longer any love because through your persona lenses you don't see it.
and maybe if you actually believe in what you said, why don't you become the change? why not look for love? it can not just be dead, love is something a couple creates it doesn't exist beforehand.
You can quantify everything. Including love. To think of love transcendental is childish. It's a human emotion like all others.
www.soc.ucsb.edu/.../history-dating-america
The only timeframe in this source where, in America, love was more emotional than lustful, was the 1800s-1900s. Which, unfortunately, had a lot to do with the Catholic Church and the limiting views of such, but it does show the existence of attainable deeper bonds.
study.com/.../...ate-love-definition-examples.html
There are multiple kinds of love, and two of the most present have been passionate love and companionate love. Passionate love is horny. It's the mega highs and lows that you experience earlier on. Companionate love is what you potentially experience later on, when your passion slowly burns out, but what's left is warmth and closeness. Unfortunately, people only stay together for a few months at a time until they find a new lay.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_theory_of_love
The idea that you contain an emotion that is impossible to quantify is the height of hubris. You're human. Just like everyone else. Your emotions can be inspected, played with, and measured. And they probably have been, at one point or another. Your version of love is a fantasy. Currently, with the hookup culture that has been growing for the past few decades, empty passion has been pursued.
Speaking of hubris, though, it is also the height of such to believe that any one person could be any sort of change in societal trends. Which is why I know full well that any effort I put through is futile. If everyone's hooking up, how are they going to hear me over their sexual moaning? Meanwhile, while rates of hookups have increased, and we've been isolating ourselves from important connections, rates of mental illness and drug abuse have gone up. We cannot sustain our current culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg
We need to revive connection.
It is a sad reality plaguing society today, people find it easier to just walk away than fix their problems. I can't do this so I am going to run away and make the same mistakes in the next relationship! What is even worse... This behaviour is socially excepted.
Its funny that you wrote this about women because I have always thought that men are like this. Just replace the word money with sex.
We live in crazy time and I know it may seem so hard to stay positive when there is so much negative around you, but please don't give up. Love for you might be closer than you think.
“Don't give up before the miracle happens.”
― Fannie Flagg, I Still Dream About You
Wanting the body of the opposite gender, the gender you are supposed to be attracted to isn't bad, it's still attraction to the person! Money is trade for almost everything, wanting that in a relationship makes you a product, a prostitute, and is not attraction to the person by any measure.
Nope, women are to blame here, not the women. you are not blameless
Sorry that it did not work out for you. But you also have to see from the girl point of view. It might be some other reason whý she left you. If you are the reason or not, is not something i`m going to judge. But to say EVERY girl is like that is just plain mean and incorrect.
I´m not like that, no one i know is like that. I think you have just met the wrong ones in your life
I think you should keep looking and you might find the true one. Good luck and don`t give up!
The hard part is they (in my experience) never tell you why they want to stop seeing you. I understand to an extent why they do that (Some guys can be super clingy/obsessive or aggressive/mean) if they find out why. But to do it after one date, then ghost me all together, it kinda leaves a huge whole in my confidence. Rinse and repeat this a couple of times and so it gets hard after a while to keep faking the confidence when there is a giant gaping whole from all the other times of being rejected/ghosted for seemingly no reason.
I do agree with you that it's not fair to say every girl is like that. But the odds of finding a girl who 1) likes a guy and 2) isn't like that is extremely slim, especially since they are usually taken. I know girls have the same problems that guys are jerks and they can't find a good enough compromise either.
@Botchie Yeah well all i can say about that is that you have had a bad luck when it comes to dating. at least where i`m from money is barely the issue. All the girls here are very independent. I guess it`s a cultural thing. Neither is the attractiveness a big role in relationship here, but more the personality.
Either it`s you who is the problem or the person you`re dating is very shallow. But no matter what the cause is a person should always tell the reason. And i agree with you on that. This happens to the both genders equally
@Blanchmess I 100% agree with you that it's a cultural thing. Yeah, I personally have had bad luck with dating, but I think for the average guy on here with the same issue as me has it because of the culture the women we try to date are from. I also believe that independent women are arguably better to date. My ex was super dependent on me and I felt more like a parent than I did a partner. Attractiveness is another issue, but that's another topic for another day. And lastly, if the other person told the reason they were uninterested (as long as it is legit and honest), we would know the answer to if it's the person being shallow or a character flaw in myself.
@Botchie Yeah i agree in what you said last. We would still call the person shallow no matter what. But i would rather know the truth than just being ignored. Which is how many guys feel. Sadly some girls just tend to not have empathy for the guy and leave the guy wonder instead, vice versa
My current boyfriend is in college and has work placement. He is nice. Not all woman a same. Look into your self or read mytake. My type of traits that make me be in a relationship to begin with a guy ↗
He didn’t say all women are the same
@TheUglyMan I meant. Most of girls I have met. Has away making it difficult.
Lots of money is key to long lasting relationships and great supply of sex boyo
But what happens if something unexpected occurs and you become bankrupt or in serious financial debts such as from some unexpected and serious illness or trauma. Those medical bills can drain you quickly. Unless somehow the BOTH of you are wealthy this might not be a big deal, but if your partner wasn't financially stable and had lots of financial debts too then that would be problematic.
@JudgmentDay then there is a good chance she will leave you and take everything.
@Jager66
All the more reason I would never be willing to trust anyone else at all. Trust is required and so is risks, and if someone is not ever willing to risk and trust then there is no point in pursuing a relationship, or even bother to date anyone. Although you also have the players that just want to fuck around and have fun.
The entire money system is horrible mess and unbalanced anyway. The uneven distribution of wealth. Besides I think some day there is gonna be a financial collapse or economic collapse or something and then the whole money system won't really even matter any more. Although it won't happen anytime soon, but eventually I think it would and that it is inevitable.
I've never met a man with money who walks around womenless. I'd rather be used for my money and have sex with beautiful women than be some average chump or simpy nice guy who gets used by plain Janes and has to be left scraps or whales that no man wants. I'd rather die or be an incel for the rest of my life than settle for scraps. An besides... there's always whores
@JudgmentDay yeah true on both accounts.
@JudgmentDay This financial/economic collapse you speak of, i pray to Agni it happens. Maybe then, everyone will come to their senses.
@Speedbird_747
It is inevitable, history repeats itself. There will be another large scale global conflict, but before it can occur, it always starts by building up from the tiny problems that grew out of control. Once it collapses a whole great depression will occur, much worse than before and then from there eventually ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE. It just takes a spark to trigger the dominoes to fall as that happened in the last two World Wars. One major event that will trigger a BIG conflict worldwide.
We're not gonna make it. Humans aren't going to change the way their nature are. They will ultimately destroy each other, this planet, and every other living things as the result of their greedy ambitions. Even if another global war doesn't end it for us, climate change will because humans fucked up the environment and compromised the integrity of the ecosystem. It just sucks that we are dragged into this crapsack world without our consent.
I have said for a long time now that if me and my fiance ever split up then I am more than happy to just not bother with looking for a relationship unless I am approached by someone, there is only so much effort a man can be expected to put in after all!
Oh hun, you are thinking wrong. Do not beat urself up. Maybe you are looking at the wrong girls, I dont know? Women in general are not that complicated... Seriously.
I think women are a bit complicated in the dating world.
I just think its too hard to find a women whos not a ragging whore.
Hey mate save your pennies and go to Thailand, meet nice girls, make sure they are not party girls, because they basically prostitute themselves to stay alive, meet her family, immerse yourself in another culture, and get out of the funk you are in. You just need a holiday, shake your world up, and find yourself and what you really want.