Best thing to do is don't take women too seriously. Go into a realtionship as casually as possible. If you put your hopes up too high you are bound to be screwed over. Always be prepared to move on because that will be most likely the case at some point. Most relationships are temporary so enjoy it while it lasts and keep your options open.
In Detroit where I've been several times , you have to take what you want there. You see something you like , then take it straight up.. or miss out. I know a lot of brothers from there too. Survival is a revelant thing there as I know. But looking out side of Detroit is also a good idea as well. Don't give up just yet until you here me out first.. if you wish , pm me and we'll talk...
I have also read and looked at some of these comments from other men. Seems like you aren't willing to bond and hold up other guys without criticizing and shaming. It's no wonder why you guys face such hard times today because of it , unlike the women who all bond and represent each other regardless. I say you guys without including myself , because I do care a little and also don't face theses issues abroad.
Can not blame all women. Yes a lot , maybe most are like that today. I experience a lot of that bull too. But, I still believe there are some great women out there, somewhere.. Hopefully all this waiting will be worth it in the end, right? And I get social anxiety. Hope is all we have left. I try to worry more about myself. Improve myself every day while I wait.. and wait.. One day someone will give me/you a chance, and will see what great people we are. Good luck.
I feel this way too. But it's a people problem not a women problem. Although I agree with social media and feminism, women are more respected than men in society.
Sorry for not reading your entire, very nicely done piece, but I know where your coming from. Just stop playing but don't stop what you're doing. And one day, out of the blue, the right one shows up and bites you in the ass. You'll se.
people always say love will find you. But that's only if you are willing to give it a chance. But if your heart and mindset has already gone cold, uncaring, and have anger built up within you, you'd realize that it's better to completely avoid any girls that feel any interest at all in you romantically for THEIR own good. They can chase you all they want, and even that is unlikely to happen, but if you really don't care to even try anymore then the battles already been lost, inside you had already crumbled into pieces, you wouldn't give the other person a fucking chance and would only deny them completely and push them away constantly. They become constantly more angrier and grumpier which would make them want to go away and look for somebody else. He's already in his 30s, it will take time, eventually I think people will become used to being on their own, no partner, no sex, no dating, no love, and no relationships at all for the rest of their lifetime.
@JudgmentDay yes, you're right, that's why I suggested a timeout. Don't want or seek a partner for a while - until you feel good about things; all things. And slowly become open to it with you're new perspective. It worked for me and it wasn't easy at first
but if guys become bitter, cynical and jaded or even disillusioned about relationships, dating, sex, "love", etc. they may never recover from it. The only difference for me is that I DON'T blame the opposite gender. I just find that there really is no point to take any of these risks unless you are really seriously up for taking your chances to try and raise a family of your own some day.
I gave that up long time ago once I realize why things are the way they are, as in why we mate and procreate and it's all very deep and I only became even More Unhappy about it all. The thing is if you're not already happy with yourself, then a relationship won't make you happy, the other person can't make you happy, at least not forever. And when and if something happens eventually and the two of you split and breakup, the results would be even MUCH WORSE and put a really unhappy person into even further depression. I realize I CAN'T truly be happy, only Less Unhappy or More Unhappy.
I think the same, never give up try earning more try improving yourself heck whatever pay8 for sex do whatever you want be rich to get woman whatever just never give up.
@NessMess Not a joke, if you don't accept reality then go masturbate and cry alone. This is the fucking world and I am not proud of this, but we don't have much to do. My advice makes sense instead of crying and bitching about, just go and improve yourself. Read, work out, be successful, earn more and girls will came for sure and if you are lucky in your journey you may find true love too.
Well I wouldn't say that the only way to improve yourself is to work hard and become rich. But if you're gonna whine about your misfortune then you deserve it, because no one in this world is just lucky - those who are successful fought for it.
Your statement isn't true at all because there are many people who are born rich and many who are born beautiful who have way easier lifes. Many normal, ugly, or with problems arm leg whatever have to put 10 more effort to achieve same things as those lucky individuals
@Mrwoo99 They want to be number 0. Putting the jokes aside, anyone should improve to become better then they were yesterday, the rival is always yourself.
@mits777 I have to disagree with you on that. Just because someone was born rich or good looking doesn't mean he's happy or has found the love of his life. Just because you were born with certain characteristics doesn't mean you're destined to feel happy in your life. Not necessarily, that is - richness etc. does increase the probability of happiness. It's true that unfortunate people are gonna have to put in more effort but that shapes character.
@Honeystick I think the whole thing with winning and losing are just another bunch of delusions.
What exactly is there to actually win or gain in this world?
When the ultimate truth is that everyone and everything will eventually die regardless what they door don't do? Regardless of whether they found love or not found love. Regardless of how much money someone had or lacked, or whatever possessions they attained or lost. Everyone and everything will suffer in this kind of a world and then they eventually and inevitably die.
@JudgmentDay it's not about the literal winning or losing - it's about being truly happy in your life and finding love. Yes at the end of the day it doesn't matter if we found love or not, but the whole point about life is not to get to your destination but the journey to it! Likewise life is not about survival but about enjoying every moment of it, doing everything you want to do. And that's only possible if you put effort into it.
Glad someone else has same ideas as me. I do the same myself, I may break up from a relationship, some girls may like me some no whatever happens I am still enjoying my journey to being the best I can be. Already finished 2 schools, great job, great body and never complain just keep working. Only people worth my time will be there in the end of my journey
Geez, thats some hardcore MGTOW stuff. I mean I get you, sometimes I can be bitter af too. Maybe when I'm at your age, I'll be the same way, who knows. In the meantime keep your head up dude. Maybe we should try and stop being so damn edgy.
Yeah there you go in your hard way Now you're bending fundamental rules of reality Can you calm down just for a while Are you brave enough just staying on safe ground All I say, do what you want to do
being alone will not make you happy in the long run, you will become very depressed. I know society has gotten so much worse, but there are girls out there who are thinking just like you. I've seen them on this site.
I think all happy and overly optimistic people are the ones deluded. The depressed and unhappy people have came to realize how awful this world really is and can be. Relationships, dating, or sex, etc. are really just a whole other bunch of "coping mechanisms" for us to pass the time before our time is up in this kind of messed up world. The same for anything that is suppose to make us feel good and not bored, and yet everything can become boring eventually. But I think he'd be alright, just have to learn to cope with being single for a very long time or indefinitely.
I feel similar to him, I can relate. But the big difference is that I don't blame the other gender, it's just that this isn't the kind of world I would want to be part of, especially if I had known beforehand. I have a negative outlook of this entire world and reality altogether, I feel there really is just nothing but pain, misery, suffering, and death, and that the "good" things that exists and goes along with it in this world are merely just coping mechanisms provided there as distractions to try and allow us to feel good and pass the time here before our time is up. I just Hate how NONE of us ever asked to come here and yet we're part of this reality and world, once we're here we're exposed to all possible forms of harms and suffering throughout our entire lifetime, and then ultimately we die no matter what we do or not do. It's really deep, but if I ever tried dating I think there's no point because even if I were to hide how I feel about this world, I can't hide it from
Even if I were to date someone and somehow got in a relationship I can't hide something like this from the other person forever, and it would eventually lead to self sabotage anyway. I only see myself quickly push someone away for their own good. Besides I think it would only scare any girl away or disappoint them deeply when they find out this is how I feel about this world and reality, and most of them do want kids, thus it's also much harder to find someone that does not want kids, and even then having similar interests, because people are always very different no matter what. I've yet to find a girl that deep like I am and have similar unhappy outlooks about this world and reality altogether.
Have you ever considered trying to change your outlook? I had to do it when I was a teen. only works if you really want it though and are committed to making it work though.
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Best thing to do is don't take women too seriously. Go into a realtionship as casually as possible. If you put your hopes up too high you are bound to be screwed over. Always be prepared to move on because that will be most likely the case at some point. Most relationships are temporary so enjoy it while it lasts and keep your options open.
In Detroit where I've been several times , you have to take what you want there. You see something you like , then take it straight up.. or miss out. I know a lot of brothers from there too. Survival is a revelant thing there as I know. But looking out side of Detroit is also a good idea as well. Don't give up just yet until you here me out first.. if you wish , pm me and we'll talk...
Asker... by the way... not all winners were born , most winners were once loosers.
I have also read and looked at some of these comments from other men. Seems like you aren't willing to bond and hold up other guys without criticizing and shaming. It's no wonder why you guys face such hard times today because of it , unlike the women who all bond and represent each other regardless. I say you guys without including myself , because I do care a little and also don't face theses issues abroad.
Thank god you for you. You no longer have to deal with most BS that comes from falling in love, so be happy and free man.
Love is really just the byproduct of hormones and chemicals in our brains and bodies and systems, all entirely delusions and illusions.
@JudgmentDay agreed.
That was an Excellent take man , because i haven't seen a professional take for long time.
Can not blame all women. Yes a lot , maybe most are like that today. I experience a lot of that bull too. But, I still believe there are some great women out there, somewhere.. Hopefully all this waiting will be worth it in the end, right? And I get social anxiety. Hope is all we have left. I try to worry more about myself. Improve myself every day while I wait.. and wait.. One day someone will give me/you a chance, and will see what great people we are. Good luck.
I feel this way too. But it's a people problem not a women problem. Although I agree with social media and feminism, women are more respected than men in society.
Not really sure about this take. Instead, I just learned to better myself at what I'm already good at, which is staying distant and cold from everyone
Sorry for not reading your entire, very nicely done piece, but I know where your coming from. Just stop playing but don't stop what you're doing. And one day, out of the blue, the right one shows up and bites you in the ass. You'll se.
people always say love will find you. But that's only if you are willing to give it a chance. But if your heart and mindset has already gone cold, uncaring, and have anger built up within you, you'd realize that it's better to completely avoid any girls that feel any interest at all in you romantically for THEIR own good. They can chase you all they want, and even that is unlikely to happen, but if you really don't care to even try anymore then the battles already been lost, inside you had already crumbled into pieces, you wouldn't give the other person a fucking chance and would only deny them completely and push them away constantly. They become constantly more angrier and grumpier which would make them want to go away and look for somebody else. He's already in his 30s, it will take time, eventually I think people will become used to being on their own, no partner, no sex, no dating, no love, and no relationships at all for the rest of their lifetime.
@JudgmentDay yes, you're right, that's why I suggested a timeout. Don't want or seek a partner for a while - until you feel good about things; all things. And slowly become open to it with you're new perspective. It worked for me and it wasn't easy at first
@Aqualung
but if guys become bitter, cynical and jaded or even disillusioned about relationships, dating, sex, "love", etc. they may never recover from it. The only difference for me is that I DON'T blame the opposite gender. I just find that there really is no point to take any of these risks unless you are really seriously up for taking your chances to try and raise a family of your own some day.
I gave that up long time ago once I realize why things are the way they are, as in why we mate and procreate and it's all very deep and I only became even More Unhappy about it all. The thing is if you're not already happy with yourself, then a relationship won't make you happy, the other person can't make you happy, at least not forever. And when and if something happens eventually and the two of you split and breakup, the results would be even MUCH WORSE and put a really unhappy person into even further depression. I realize I CAN'T truly be happy, only Less Unhappy or More Unhappy.
Winners never give up. Therefore you'll never be a winner and neither will you ever find love.
Stop spitting non-sense left and right.
@NessMess No, it's just that you have to be cruel to be kind.
I think the same, never give up try earning more try improving yourself heck whatever pay8 for sex do whatever you want be rich to get woman whatever just never give up.
This is a joke right? If not then wow... *clap clap*
@NessMess Not a joke, if you don't accept reality then go masturbate and cry alone. This is the fucking world and I am not proud of this, but we don't have much to do. My advice makes sense instead of crying and bitching about, just go and improve yourself. Read, work out, be successful, earn more and girls will came for sure and if you are lucky in your journey you may find true love too.
Well I wouldn't say that the only way to improve yourself is to work hard and become rich. But if you're gonna whine about your misfortune then you deserve it, because no one in this world is just lucky - those who are successful fought for it.
Your statement isn't true at all because there are many people who are born rich and many who are born beautiful who have way easier lifes. Many normal, ugly, or with problems arm leg whatever have to put 10 more effort to achieve same things as those lucky individuals
I'm number 1... so why try harder.
@Mrwoo99 They want to be number 0. Putting the jokes aside, anyone should improve to become better then they were yesterday, the rival is always yourself.
@mits777 I have to disagree with you on that. Just because someone was born rich or good looking doesn't mean he's happy or has found the love of his life. Just because you were born with certain characteristics doesn't mean you're destined to feel happy in your life. Not necessarily, that is - richness etc. does increase the probability of happiness. It's true that unfortunate people are gonna have to put in more effort but that shapes character.
@Honeystick I think the whole thing with winning and losing are just another bunch of delusions.
What exactly is there to actually win or gain in this world?
When the ultimate truth is that everyone and everything will eventually die regardless what they door don't do? Regardless of whether they found love or not found love. Regardless of how much money someone had or lacked, or whatever possessions they attained or lost. Everyone and everything will suffer in this kind of a world and then they eventually and inevitably die.
@mits777 Im sorry* but did your doctor slam dunk you during child birth or are you just mentally retarded?
@NessMess yourbmother sucked my cock when ibwas 1 year old
@JudgmentDay it's not about the literal winning or losing - it's about being truly happy in your life and finding love. Yes at the end of the day it doesn't matter if we found love or not, but the whole point about life is not to get to your destination but the journey to it! Likewise life is not about survival but about enjoying every moment of it, doing everything you want to do. And that's only possible if you put effort into it.
Glad someone else has same ideas as me. I do the same myself, I may break up from a relationship, some girls may like me some no whatever happens I am still enjoying my journey to being the best I can be. Already finished 2 schools, great job, great body and never complain just keep working. Only people worth my time will be there in the end of my journey
@mits777 exactly. You get it. But then again it's a certain type of mindset only very few people can achieve. I think this all is the living proof.
Yup, many other prefer crying over, getting depression or banging their head against the wall.
@mits777 *clap clap* I don't even need to say anything here honestly, your intelligent speech right here is enough.
@NessMess To be honest, I read your comments and you shouldn't have spoken to begin with. So goddamn stupid.
@NessMess i think that is all women can do these days.
@Cyhhgg It is her that shouldn't have bothered.
Very poorly written. Not all women are like this. You just keep finding the bad ones out of a whole bunch.
yup, my cousin doesn't work and his wife keeps him :P , true love haha. You just need to know how to make a woman love you
This is sad. I know many women who are not as you described. Hope it gets better for you.
Geez, thats some hardcore MGTOW stuff. I mean I get you, sometimes I can be bitter af too. Maybe when I'm at your age, I'll be the same way, who knows. In the meantime keep your head up dude. Maybe we should try and stop being so damn edgy.
I think you just haven't found the right one, there are a lot of woman out there. Stop searching in the wrong places.
Maybe there isn’t someone for everyone
I know a really good girl who will stay with you. But that's all there is to her, faithfulness, that's all. Where do you live?
listen u live in the usa women are crazy there
fly to Europe , asia :)
Yeah there you go in your hard way
Now you're bending fundamental rules of reality
Can you calm down just for a while
Are you brave enough just staying on safe ground
All I say, do what you want to do
being alone will not make you happy in the long run, you will become very depressed. I know society has gotten so much worse, but there are girls out there who are thinking just like you. I've seen them on this site.
I think all happy and overly optimistic people are the ones deluded. The depressed and unhappy people have came to realize how awful this world really is and can be. Relationships, dating, or sex, etc. are really just a whole other bunch of "coping mechanisms" for us to pass the time before our time is up in this kind of messed up world. The same for anything that is suppose to make us feel good and not bored, and yet everything can become boring eventually. But I think he'd be alright, just have to learn to cope with being single for a very long time or indefinitely.
Yeah if you really feel that way then you are probably better off not dating...
I feel similar to him, I can relate. But the big difference is that I don't blame the other gender, it's just that this isn't the kind of world I would want to be part of, especially if I had known beforehand. I have a negative outlook of this entire world and reality altogether, I feel there really is just nothing but pain, misery, suffering, and death, and that the "good" things that exists and goes along with it in this world are merely just coping mechanisms provided there as distractions to try and allow us to feel good and pass the time here before our time is up. I just Hate how NONE of us ever asked to come here and yet we're part of this reality and world, once we're here we're exposed to all possible forms of harms and suffering throughout our entire lifetime, and then ultimately we die no matter what we do or not do. It's really deep, but if I ever tried dating I think there's no point because even if I were to hide how I feel about this world, I can't hide it from
Even if I were to date someone and somehow got in a relationship I can't hide something like this from the other person forever, and it would eventually lead to self sabotage anyway. I only see myself quickly push someone away for their own good. Besides I think it would only scare any girl away or disappoint them deeply when they find out this is how I feel about this world and reality, and most of them do want kids, thus it's also much harder to find someone that does not want kids, and even then having similar interests, because people are always very different no matter what. I've yet to find a girl that deep like I am and have similar unhappy outlooks about this world and reality altogether.
@JudgmentDay I am sooo sorry that you are having such a rough go of things. I hope you find what you are looking for though... :/
Have you ever considered trying to change your outlook? I had to do it when I was a teen. only works if you really want it though and are committed to making it work though.
Woe is me! Just be yourself & you will eventually find someone that accepts you & loves you unconditionally. Work on yourself & enjoy life Until then.
Feminism in the me to movement that’s why I stopped