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Why Don't Guys Want to Pay for the First Date Anymore? (Page 4)
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Honestly just... it could not matter less. If you're unhappy about it, just split it!
Women have what you call a 'Shooting yourself in the foot' syndrome. There so stupid. If I was getting something from someone and they didn't it repeatedly put generosity I wouldn't demand they do it because I know it will piss them off.
Too many women are becoming obvious in their greed. It's in their nature to want a man's resources.
Because of this men have started expecting things of women. If youve noticed over the years... What men expect of women is becoming similar to what women expect.
Most guys wants a working woman, stable, not using him goldigger (just like sex for women)... Before it was just a pretty face.
Entitlement is the reason men don't open doors anymore or pay. Now whenever I pay for dates... I can tell already what type of girl she was in the past. Luckily for me me and my girlfriend switch.
That's what I said in the myTake yes
We DONT have to anymore that's why and I refuse to pay for you self entitled feminazi's. Why should I invest in you women when you women never invest nothing in dating. Why dont women this time instead approach men, lead the interaction, earn our respect and pay for our meal for a change because I'm not doing that shit no more.
Dating is unequal and unfair to men and I refuse to participate. In the meantime I am fine paying to bang hot model escorts rather than spend money on you so you can blow me off for chad thunder cock and not even refund me my money.
Lmao. Someone didn't read a word I said because I was defending your right to not to have to pay. 😂
I didn't read it, only the title.
How about taking a deep breath, reading through the myTake and coming back after you calmed down? :)
Why are these women down voting me like I am committing a sin?
Because you didn't read it. Only the title. Now read it then come back after you read it because I was DEFENDING your right to choose whether or not you want to pay. Thanks.
It's hilarious, this tug-o-war. The fact of the matter is, it's personal preference and/or a matter of communication.
However, considering you retards can't speak properly, anymore, I'd say the communication bit is downplayed a lot. It's all just competition for you.
Tell me, how many people with serious intentions of dating have you seen complaining about this bullshit? Correct, none.
Respectfulness is not due for topics like these.
Why did you comment on this to call me a retard? If this topic bothers you then you did not have to comment. I have you a fair warning in the beginning of the myTake.
It's unfortunate you feel my comment was directed toward you. I'm not bothered by the topic itself, but the kind of mentality that is prevalent.
I personally don't like it I wanna pay for myself. Ofcorse I Will be very thankful if he offers but I feel like I owe him money then. And it doesn't have to be about dating I think over all I like to pay for myself and I rather offer money than taking it. It just feels better.
And I guess (I don't know) some guys doesn't wanna pay for the meal anymore because they want equality just like the feminists says and because some women expects it
This is exactly why j don't pay for every girl on every date I go to. If they expect me to, I pay for myself and never go on another date with them
Yep 👍
well i certainly hope that men are ready then to put equal amounts of time, money & energy into their appearance
The ones that work out frequently certainly put in as much or more time and energy into it.
I bet they do but that can be a good counter argument against it.
Well they're probably gonna be spending too much time and energy earning the money that you're gonna be using up.
I have had a 6 pack, gone to Yoga, Kickboxing, Got my degree at healthy food others everywhere made fun of me but were jealous of how I looked. I got most into eating healthier. Your comment is so ignorant you have no idea the amount of effort men put into dating. You have it so easy in the dating world I can't wait for you to hit 35... even then you will still have it easier then a man in the dating world unless you are 6 feet, white collared.
Because he doesn't like feeling burdened to have to do it and he's tired of a pussywhipped culture and society like me and wants to put this crap to rest.
Geez, can't you see it? Why should that bother you? If you don't like it, find a weak man that will put you first no matter what and will be your total slave.
^^^ This guy didn't read shit I said and if he would have read, he would have known that I was defending his right to not have to pay! Wow, see what reading can do?
Guys who didn't read counter: 6
Well I see 2 pictures that shows women thinking it is odd that she can't get her way. Plus, I am seeing the way you word your question. It makes me think subconsciously that you want a man to come up with an answer that supports men paying on 1st dates as it would turn you on but secretly want to bash a man that doesn't agree. It's a no win situation and I read it but my answers aren't always compatible with what you type. I interpret the article differently when you throw pictures in it that is misleading.
I used different pictures. When gag features stuff they sometimes change the pictures around. Sorry for misleading you.
It's okay.
I've always avoided this altogether on the first few dates by taking the girl out to a place that is free. If I hit it off with her from there, and by this time would have figured out her stance on how she feels about paying during a date, then I'd be willing to go out some place and cover the cost. I've completely gotten past the idea of taking a girl out on a first date that will cost either one of us money.
I don't think either side is wrong... just find someone who feels the same as you. You want to split find a girl who feels the save, if you don't think it feels like a date if your splitting it then friends would then don't split. People need to try to stop using guilt to help justify their feelings. Someone doesn't have to be wrong for you to be right... you just probably aren't compatible.
I am qurious what would you think if you see some Asian countries where women obviously have less rights but pay the bill on their date. I think paying for the firstdate isn't about equality. i pay when i ask him out. Because he allows me to use his time.
How often do you ask men out on dates though? Thats the thing... MOST women do not... and if they do its a guy they are really interested... aka one out of their league.
Well then, you can do what you want you aren't obligated to listen to me. I'm just expressing my opinion. And this Take was talking about American tradition and stuff like that.
E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y, this is what they asked for, they shall accept it, men and women should PAY FOR THEIR OWN MEAL! This is too simple to understand, some women are jerks at first dates, thinking that men should pay for the delicious and expensive meal they don't have to pay for.
I pay for most things on our dates. I don't think many guys have an issue with this. The issue arises with the price of the first date (it should be well under $75) and if the woman will ever pay for something. I want to see a woman who expects the man to pay for everything to accept what else happened when the man paid for everything?
Good take, especially the part about chivalry.
I love it when women talk about chivalry as if they know something about it. Chivalry mainly has to do with waging war, and the code of conduct accordingly. Women like to treat it like, "Oh, it means men should be nice to me!" No, that's an officer and gentlemen, but trust me, he's and officer FIRST. Being nice to you is just a secondary benefit. Abuse it and it's good bye (which is mostly already is).
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I dint have a problem paying the bill, however if you dint offer to pay at least half, dont expect to hear from me again. To me it shows bad character to expect soneome to pay your bill
I always pay. I do not ask out a girl I don;t want to pay for.
Great 👍
BOOM! Great answer.
I'm a guy.
If you ask someone out (regardless of your gender), you can pay first. It's awesome if (s) he offers to split the bill, but if not, then don't make a big deal out of it unless it's a "repeated" thing.
I'd rather people talk less about who pays on the first date, and more about the double standard that condemns men who hit women and justifies women who hit men.
Do what you wish. :)
30% of women literally only go for a free meal with no intention of getting to know the guy. Yet you expect men to approach AND offer you a free meal to make fun of him if he's not you're type? Why would i pay for a girl who expects me to invest in her when she won't invest in me? Entitled snob
Perhaps it's because of the 4th wave feminism convincing them it's normal to accept a woman paying, either that or they are really frugal since the econemy is pretty much gonna hit the shitters since the USD is devaluing, or they just want to save up on cash.