no, you shouldn't. You see a lot of these ignorant asshole men look at a fat woman and run away. Sure, everyone has preferences but that fat woman could be in the process of losing weight, she could be having multiple surgeries because she cannot lose weight, etc. etc.
it is better not to assume you know someone's reason for being fat because it isn't always, oh she/he eats all the time and that's why they are fat.
no, there are MANY MANY other things that can cause that. Heart failure is a great example. my friend's mom has always been skinny, but she developed heart failure and wasn't allowed to do much walking because of her breathing and bad heart rate. She blew up 80 pounds from the meds they gave her. luckily, she lost it all after a while of learning to maintain her health issues/concerns.
as I said, do not assume you know their story. Being overweight can be genetic oh and... if you make fun of fat people, you will become fat too.
I agree that you shouldn't have to "lower your standards" and if it's working for you to date your preferred body type that's great. HOWEVER I do have a problem with conventionally unattractive people, male and female alike, thinking they are ENTITLED to conventionally attractive people and then getting mad when they aren't interested but refusing to do anything to improve themselves. As long as that isn't your attitude, I don't care. But I see that mindset among "nice guys" and fat girls too often.
I know this, I mean I'm not really fat, but I am a bit overweight. (5'7 at 175ibs) Luckily it's a lot of good fat, but plenty of bad fat also. While I don't know about women who're grossly overweight, like in a sense that it's killing them/uncomfortable to live with...(the woman in the zebra print & woman in pink) I know that in my experience muscular, hot men like women who have more fat than average. Unluckily for me, I don't really prefer that haha. I like the unique lookin squishy guys, but they go for thin toothpicks. T_T
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Fit guys don't have to lower their standards either. I workout and don't chow down on junk food all day so I can look as good as possible. Why would I want to be with a woman who doesn't care to put any of that effort in to look good herself? I'm sorry fat is not attractive, and your fat pride movement isn't going to change my mind on that.
Seriously, that pictures 😂... Pictures 1 and 5 look like they're from porn and porn meets all kinds of bizarre for fetishists... And has Lena Dunham really had a relationship with Patrick Wilson or do they just posed together? Lol, she's so ugly to him... And that pink eyeshadow looks hideous. The woman in the second picture is kinda ugly too... I don't understand why it's written "attractive and fat". Pictures 4 and 6 are ok...
I don't understand the comment of the blue anon 18-24, though. What does his thinking that "women age like milk, men age like wine" has to do with this? Another troll? Because it not only doesn't have to do with this take but it isn't true at all too.
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Oh, I hadn't read the part about Lena Dunham before, my bad. Still...
P. s.: I agree you don't have to lower your standards; of course you don't have the obligation to have sex with people you don't feel sexually attracted to. If you're fat and a hot guy that you're attracted to wants to have sex with you, or even a relationship, go for it! I just think it's trolling because of pictures like the ones that look like they're from porn and because of your replies to some of the guys.
@OreoMilkshake Men don't age better. What happens is, there are more women who like older men than there are men who like older women, so white hair and some wrinkles are considered charming on men by a lot of women, while it is not considered charming on women by most men, quite the contrary. Women have thinner skin, so they have more wrinkles, but because men have thicker skin, their wrinkles are deeper. Women generally like older men because they're more psychologically mature, experienced, more economically stable, more likely to commit etc. Men care more about looks/ have a higher libido, so they prefer younger women. Although men are fertile until they're old, after the age of 35 sperm count and quality decreases (it's not only the woman fault). And men absolutely don't age like wine, not when we're talking about physical appearance. Younger men obviously look better/ have better chances to look better than men in their 40s and up do.
On a side note... Lena Dunham isn't "obese". Slightly overweight.. yes, but she isn't fat and misshapen. Why is she put in the same category as morbidly obese women. Why is the woman that Pierce dating also in the same category as the other morbidly obese women?
Is the opinion owner trying to make us all think that these women are all one in the same?
@MermaidMotel True, I haven't thought about that. The guys are fitter than them, but Lena Dunham and the Pierce Brosnan's wife are not fat, judging by that pictures.
I'm not even going to point everything wrong with your post, I'm sure all the other opinions beat me to it.
Just wanna clear something up, being fat is NOT healthy. This thinking might help you sleep better at night but it should NOT discourage you from losing weight because YOU think you're fine.
This piece of writing would have been half decent if not for that "we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves". So basically you are saying that fat girls are a catch, but there's something wrong with fat guys. That's just wrong on so many levels.
You can say that all you want but you won't meet a hot guy if you are fat... not trying to be rude. You need to either change yourself or go for someone like you or alternatively you could keep seeking a guy with your high standards and stay lonely. The truth.
I doubt that very much lmfao. Im being honest with you so you know im not trying to hurt your feelings. You don't need to settle for some overweight ugly dude? YOU are overweight and fat yourself lmfao, this is hilarious. I feel terrible for laughing but your attitude is so ugly.
The sense of self-entitlement is strong you should get to choose fit attractive guys despite being a lazy pig yourself lose some fucking weight (and the attitude) and maybe this won't be just a fantasy mytake.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I should never have to settle for someone I'm not attracted to, especially when I've been catfished or misled.
I mean it's not all black and white. I've dated some girls who have had cute faces with a little chubbiness but I knew what I was getting into beforehand.
I mean no one should be ashamed for their appearance, height, weight, etc but also no one should be guilty for not be attracted to someone.
I mean would it be that much better if you dated someone only to find out they settled and had no attraction?
sure, you have a right to want a 10/10 guy, no arguments there... BUT if said 10/10 guy doesn't find you attractive because of you being fat does not mean he should lower his standards for you either.
@Edwin23 only just noticed the "I am not settling for an overweight ugly dude" response from her/him on someone else's opinion, despite preaching to me how "I shouldn't judge based on looks."
100% confirmed troll, good job op, i took your bait
Wow that is hypocritical! In your own words, you said that "we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves." So you don't have to "settle" for fat guys because they are unattractive to you but if a man thinks you are unattractive because of your size, HE is shallow? Wow!
What you're saying is not entirely true. If a hot guy was to walk into a bar and there were 10 women. Five were slim and sexy and the other five were very obese, the hot guy, unless he has a fat fetish, is going to pick a sexy slim woman over an obese woman. Maybe the woman on the dating site got hot men chasing after her because these men got rejected from all the other fit women on the site, so as a last resort these desperate men had no choice but to chase after the obese women.
hasty generalizations are not facts. and just because you think it is a fact, it doesn't make it a fact. this is called the false consensus effect because you are projecting. not every guy thinks like you.
Fat is never good and no it's not attractive, you want to think that it is attractive because it becomes more and more standard thing in the States while we the fit guys (and girls) have become the minority. When I hear obese people that they are attractive, I tell them "Don't kid yourself, you are not." Also if you slim down you will become healthier.
I see that first picture and i'm like, "Damn, that girl's got some good game" hahahaha. Respect tho. Love is love is love. I wouldn't leave a girl I love just because she put on weight after a period of years. I'd help her get back in shape.
I think fat women shoudn't lower their standards but they should realize that they aren't going to be pulling in men that are models. If they are getting with men that are good looking then those men probably have a fat fetish. If you are overweight then do something about wanting to get shape. Not trying to be mean but i think an overweight women just is unhealthy looking to me. This article just seems like someone doesn't want to accept the facts of dating.
Yeah, you don't need to lower your dating standards, but you can't demand for other people to lower theirs. If they are not attracted to someone, there's no point in dating them.
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no, you shouldn't.
You see a lot of these ignorant asshole men look at a fat woman and run away. Sure, everyone has preferences but that fat woman could be in the process of losing weight, she could be having multiple surgeries because she cannot lose weight, etc. etc.
it is better not to assume you know someone's reason for being fat because it isn't always, oh she/he eats all the time and that's why they are fat.
no, there are MANY MANY other things that can cause that.
Heart failure is a great example. my friend's mom has always been skinny, but she developed heart failure and wasn't allowed to do much walking because of her breathing and bad heart rate. She blew up 80 pounds from the meds they gave her.
luckily, she lost it all after a while of learning to maintain her health issues/concerns.
as I said, do not assume you know their story.
Being overweight can be genetic oh and... if you make fun of fat people, you will become fat too.
karma is real
I agree that you shouldn't have to "lower your standards" and if it's working for you to date your preferred body type that's great. HOWEVER I do have a problem with conventionally unattractive people, male and female alike, thinking they are ENTITLED to conventionally attractive people and then getting mad when they aren't interested but refusing to do anything to improve themselves. As long as that isn't your attitude, I don't care. But I see that mindset among "nice guys" and fat girls too often.
I know this, I mean I'm not really fat, but I am a bit overweight. (5'7 at 175ibs) Luckily it's a lot of good fat, but plenty of bad fat also. While I don't know about women who're grossly overweight, like in a sense that it's killing them/uncomfortable to live with...(the woman in the zebra print & woman in pink) I know that in my experience muscular, hot men like women who have more fat than average. Unluckily for me, I don't really prefer that haha. I like the unique lookin squishy guys, but they go for thin toothpicks. T_T
Fit guys don't have to lower their standards either. I workout and don't chow down on junk food all day so I can look as good as possible. Why would I want to be with a woman who doesn't care to put any of that effort in to look good herself? I'm sorry fat is not attractive, and your fat pride movement isn't going to change my mind on that.
This is the MHO. I'm a athletic guy who feels the exact same way. I really like the three butt hurt SJWs that downvoted your opinion with no response.
Nice trolling! 😊
Seriously, that pictures 😂... Pictures 1 and 5 look like they're from porn and porn meets all kinds of bizarre for fetishists... And has Lena Dunham really had a relationship with Patrick Wilson or do they just posed together? Lol, she's so ugly to him... And that pink eyeshadow looks hideous. The woman in the second picture is kinda ugly too... I don't understand why it's written "attractive and fat". Pictures 4 and 6 are ok...
I don't understand the comment of the blue anon 18-24, though. What does his thinking that "women age like milk, men age like wine" has to do with this? Another troll? Because it not only doesn't have to do with this take but it isn't true at all too.
Oh, I hadn't read the part about Lena Dunham before, my bad. Still...
P. s.: I agree you don't have to lower your standards; of course you don't have the obligation to have sex with people you don't feel sexually attracted to. If you're fat and a hot guy that you're attracted to wants to have sex with you, or even a relationship, go for it! I just think it's trolling because of pictures like the ones that look like they're from porn and because of your replies to some of the guys.
The saying is there because that's often how it happens to be, im not sure if it's a gender thing or if it's just a coincidence that men age better
@OreoMilkshake Men don't age better. What happens is, there are more women who like older men than there are men who like older women, so white hair and some wrinkles are considered charming on men by a lot of women, while it is not considered charming on women by most men, quite the contrary. Women have thinner skin, so they have more wrinkles, but because men have thicker skin, their wrinkles are deeper. Women generally like older men because they're more psychologically mature, experienced, more economically stable, more likely to commit etc. Men care more about looks/ have a higher libido, so they prefer younger women. Although men are fertile until they're old, after the age of 35 sperm count and quality decreases (it's not only the woman fault). And men absolutely don't age like wine, not when we're talking about physical appearance. Younger men obviously look better/ have better chances to look better than men in their 40s and up do.
On a side note... Lena Dunham isn't "obese". Slightly overweight.. yes, but she isn't fat and misshapen. Why is she put in the same category as morbidly obese women. Why is the woman that Pierce dating also in the same category as the other morbidly obese women?
Is the opinion owner trying to make us all think that these women are all one in the same?
@MermaidMotel True, I haven't thought about that. The guys are fitter than them, but Lena Dunham and the Pierce Brosnan's wife are not fat, judging by that pictures.
So in essence you are saying that big girls deserve hot guys but those hot guys deserve a big girl? Lol... I'm not sure if I get it completely hahaha
That is twisted lol...
thats not the point she's trying to make. you are making a hasty generalization.
I'm not even going to point everything wrong with your post, I'm sure all the other opinions beat me to it.
Just wanna clear something up, being fat is NOT healthy. This thinking might help you sleep better at night but it should NOT discourage you from losing weight because YOU think you're fine.
Well said
Wtf 2 down votes as if I'm wrong? people these days man
Maybe they' are fat and felt offended 🤷♀️
This piece of writing would have been half decent if not for that "we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves". So basically you are saying that fat girls are a catch, but there's something wrong with fat guys. That's just wrong on so many levels.
This fat girl completely agrees with you!
You can say that all you want but you won't meet a hot guy if you are fat... not trying to be rude. You need to either change yourself or go for someone like you or alternatively you could keep seeking a guy with your high standards and stay lonely. The truth.
I have already met lots of hot guys who like for who I am. I don't need to settle for some overweight ugly dude.
I doubt that very much lmfao. Im being honest with you so you know im not trying to hurt your feelings. You don't need to settle for some overweight ugly dude? YOU are overweight and fat yourself lmfao, this is hilarious. I feel terrible for laughing but your attitude is so ugly.
ok so the overweight buy is a ugly dude... but your overweight and not an ugly girl?
lol I don't get that logic hahah
that's a hasty generalization, not the truth dumbo
The sense of self-entitlement is strong you should get to choose fit attractive guys despite being a lazy pig yourself lose some fucking weight (and the attitude) and maybe this won't be just a fantasy mytake.
guys who aren't fit and attractive aren't entitled to her either.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I should never have to settle for someone I'm not attracted to, especially when I've been catfished or misled.
I mean it's not all black and white. I've dated some girls who have had cute faces with a little chubbiness but I knew what I was getting into beforehand.
I mean no one should be ashamed for their appearance, height, weight, etc but also no one should be guilty for not be attracted to someone.
I mean would it be that much better if you dated someone only to find out they settled and had no attraction?
sorry but i have to use this, seems appropriate
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sure, you have a right to want a 10/10 guy, no arguments there...
BUT if said 10/10 guy doesn't find you attractive because of you being fat does not mean he should lower his standards for you either.
it works both ways, not just the one
If he doesn't like me then he is just shallow. You shouldn't be judged only by the way you look.
how is he being shallow if he's not attracted to you visually?
you're literally saying "yeah i'm not a 10/10 but should only get 10/10s otherwise they're shallow"
Bro I think we might be being trolled. A human Person can't be this stupid.
@Edwin23 only just noticed the "I am not settling for an overweight ugly dude" response from her/him on someone else's opinion, despite preaching to me how "I shouldn't judge based on looks."
100% confirmed troll, good job op, i took your bait
Wow that is hypocritical! In your own words, you said that "we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves."
So you don't have to "settle" for fat guys because they are unattractive to you but if a man thinks you are unattractive because of your size, HE is shallow?
Wow!
What you're saying is not entirely true. If a hot guy was to walk into a bar and there were 10 women. Five were slim and sexy and the other five were very obese, the hot guy, unless he has a fat fetish, is going to pick a sexy slim woman over an obese woman. Maybe the woman on the dating site got hot men chasing after her because these men got rejected from all the other fit women on the site, so as a last resort these desperate men had no choice but to chase after the obese women.
thats a hasty generalization.
@afnabe not a generalization. Cause most of us probably have been there too. So we're just trying to give you the right insight about how a guy works
@afnabe I don't care. It's just a fact.
hasty generalizations are not facts. and just because you think it is a fact, it doesn't make it a fact. this is called the false consensus effect because you are projecting. not every guy thinks like you.
Fat is never good and no it's not attractive, you want to think that it is attractive because it becomes more and more standard thing in the States while we the fit guys (and girls) have become the minority. When I hear obese people that they are attractive, I tell them "Don't kid yourself, you are not." Also if you slim down you will become healthier.
some fat people have faces that look better than yours and they are way more attractive than you
You're totally delusional. Good luck with your ill-health.
by the way those guys have some kind of twisted fat fetish. Nature abhors unhealthy excesses like obesity.
thats a hasty generalization
I see that first picture and i'm like, "Damn, that girl's got some good game" hahahaha. Respect tho. Love is love is love. I wouldn't leave a girl I love just because she put on weight after a period of years. I'd help her get back in shape.
OMFG. Seriously? We had a guy just claiming the same thing. Just no. If you need to lose some weight then eat less and hit the gym.
Lmfao I remember that other take. Mirin the brutal honesty
I think fat women shoudn't lower their standards but they should realize that they aren't going to be pulling in men that are models. If they are getting with men that are good looking then those men probably have a fat fetish. If you are overweight then do something about wanting to get shape. Not trying to be mean but i think an overweight women just is unhealthy looking to me. This article just seems like someone doesn't want to accept the facts of dating.
these are hasty generalizations and i see the false consensus effect here
Yeah, you don't need to lower your dating standards, but you can't demand for other people to lower theirs.
If they are not attracted to someone, there's no point in dating them.