I'm Fat, But That Doesn't Mean I Have To Lower My Dating Standards

[Amy97]

I know that hot is relative and all inclusive depending on who you chat with, but for these purposes, let's talk about the "universally attractive" kind of hot. You know, the kind fat chicks don't deserve? We want to pretend that we don't know what I'm talking about, but let's be real; we totally do. The fact that "fat chicks bang 'hot' guys" was one of the most powerful realizations I've had thus far.

In line with the above paragraph, I knew that there would be someone that would find me attractive but the pool would be small (because of my body) and potentially full of guys I didn't personally find sexy. So I would have to settle for anyone that would take me. After all, how could a conventionally gorgeous man (tall, fit and with a six pack) like fat chicks? Well, let me tell you something: through various sites, events, parties, and corner store meetings, I found myself with over a hundred men who were champing at the bit to get with this. I was the one who had to sift through and pick the hottest of the hot. Ladies, over a hundred.

"Girls" showed what society thinks about that when Hannah's character has a weekend romance with an attractive and wealthy doctor. People flipped their shit. "Patrick Wilson is so hot he would never do Lena Dunham" was the most eye catching. Wilson's wife responded to that rubbish here, but the tweet speaks volumes about what the majority of people think unconventional women deserve. Jesus christ, it's annoying.

I won't spill the details of my bedroom coming and goings, but lets just say this: the hottest guys in Tucson and I get along just fine. Know this: the myth that "atypical" bodies can't be paired with "typically attractive" bodies is false. Women need to know that all bodies can be paired with all bodies and we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves.

[deepinthoughtz]

This entire Mytake is completely hypocritical. "Lower your standards" basically means fat women don't have to date fat or ugly men.
It's supposed to be a message about fat acceptance or empowerment yet she gleefully and eagerly "fat shames" guys for being overweight as "beneath her standards".

Then there is the whole problem with the notion that just because a guy might be a model or look like one, that he's automatically a "higher standard" in the dating pool. The guy could be a complete ass. This seems to be all about appearances and superficial. If it's wrong to judge fat women by appearances, why isn't it wrong to judge hot men by their appearances as if they are at the top of the dating food chain because they have six-pack?

Finally, let's stop pretending that obesity is sexy or attractive. It is not. I'm not advocating fat shaming people or belittling people but pretending that hugely obese women are sexy is as ridiculous as saying that Governor Chris Christie or Steve Bannon in a speedo would be a sexy example of a male.

[afnabe]

if you're fat and you're not attracted to fat people, there is nothing hypocritical about it. we can choose who we are attracted to.

[deepinthoughtz]

@afnabe It's hypocritical when you make statements like this, as the person who wrote this Mytake did:
"If he doesn't like me then he is just shallow. You shouldn't be judged only by the way you look."

[deepinthoughtz]

@afnabe
This entire Mytake is essentially shaming our society for saying that fat women don’t deserve to date attractive men.
Meanwhile SHE is saying she lower her dating standards. By that, she means she shouldn’t have to settle for fat or unattractive men.

By “Lower her dating” standards, she is making a judgement about someone’s worth in the dating pool based on their appearances.
The exact SAME thing she blaming society for doing when society makes judgements about fat women.

[MermaidMotel]

I have found that people, in general, are hypocritical. There is A LOT of hypocrisy going on in the dating scene and in people's apparent "dating preferences".

[MermaidMotel]

Also funny how @afnabe is "no longer active". I think it was probably a fake account created by the original poster..

[karahiri]

i agree. one of my friends is clinically obese and she gets with the hottest guys ever lol... like... MODELS. :p I don't know why people think that because you look a certain way you can't POSSIBLY be attractive to someone who looks different. by that logic, all interracial relationships are moot. relationships where one person is way taller should get scrapped. etc. etc. most importantly, I don't know why all these people who ARE NOT IN THE RELATIONSHIP, put their two cents in. people should just mind their own business.

[TripleAce]

obese... yea but I bet it's just for sex... I seriously doubt those model guys make her their girlfriend and take her to amazing model events with a clinical obese women...
cmon now lol... that just doesn't happen

[karahiri]

@TripleAce not always. some, she just wants to hook up with. others want something more substantial. why does it matter so much if a conventionally attractive man wants to be with a bigger woman?

[TripleAce]

Just cause i don't think a model type would want a clinically obese women as a wife lol

It's ok just its not realistic. If she wants hot so does he. Sure some like the chub but that's usually limited to sexual experiences vs actually making her your gf/wife

[karahiri]

@TripleAce By that logic, only people who look like each other should get married. lol. whaaaat. just because you find that body type to be unattractive and not worthy of wifing, doesn't mean every guy out there feels the same way. some people find fat to be be hot. so what? who cares?

[TripleAce]

But what happens is that once your under a certain threshold your social value significantly drops... which is why it's much more common to see good looking guys with maybe a below average women...
But once you are grouped into the fat category and now even the obsess category (like you're saying)... pffff... that significantly drops her social value down...

Bah... give me one example... you have the whole world as your finger tips..8 billion people to choose from.. show me one model with a clinically obese women... lol

[karahiri]

@TripleAce but you don't need SOCIETY to want you. you're missing the point. she's not expecting or wanting every hot guy to want her back. i'm just saying that she's been with hot guys, much more than you'd expect. i don't understand the point in trying to please everyone on the planet. she's -already- attractive to plenty of people.

[TripleAce]

Lol
Not much more than id expect. I've met so many bbw girls that get hot guys left and right lol. But the common denomitor is it's almost always for sex and these girls stay single cause it makes them believe they can attract the hot guy based on sexual attention

The point is yes she will get sexual attention but she needs to know that does not mean she'a getting hot guys. To get a guy you need to make him fall for you

They're just using her

[karahiri]

@TripleAce How is it being used if she -wants- to hook up? she isn't always looking for a relationship, you know? sometimes she just wants sex. that's all.

[TripleAce]

Lol you have an answer for everything huh
I bet the 'uglier' person usually falls for the hotter one lol
Sure its just sex but she would love it if he made her his girlfriend lol

Cmon kara lol haha. Give it up 😛

[karahiri]

@TripleAce i just think you're making a ton of assumptions because you don't want to see the situation in a different light. it's your perspective or the highway. :p

[redeyemindtricks]

"By that logic, only people who look like each other should get married. lol"

^^ Soooooo in the VAST majority of marriages / long-term rls, this is pretty much what ends up happening anyway.
... Because most couples eventually converge on similar lifestyle habits, similar activity levels, similar indulgences, and similar diets (I'm always ASTONISHED at how many couples literally eat exactly the same foods as each other, almost all the time... it's veryveryVERY close to 100 percent.)

Under those circumstances, even if the two start out with significantly different somatotypes, their bodies will start looking very, very "alike" with a surprising quickness (... unless there's some gigantic discrepancy, EG one spouse works a factory floor job that's 8 hrs/day of walking, lifting and carrying heavy shit, while the other rides a desk all day).

I mean, just look around you. How often do you SEE **couples** with totally different body types?
... Not very often, that's for sure. There are

[redeyemindtricks]

DEFINITELY more noticeably interracial couples (even in socially reactionary rural areas) — and even more taller-wife-with-shorter-husband couples — than there are couples with mismatched body types. Not even close.

[karahiri]

@redeyemindtricks I agree with everything you said. TripleAce makes it sound like it's impossible for a fit guy to want a bigger woman for more than just sex. I completely disagree with that because I have literally seen couples like that. Is it the norm? No. I never claimed it to be the norm. I just think he's using his own disapproval of such pairings as evidence that they can't possibly -exist-.

[redeyemindtricks]

Yah

I've actually seen some super hot tension, between couples like that.

Specifically, the boy's lifestyle is all rigor, and regimens, and scheduled eating and scheduled fasting and scheduled EVERYTHINGing (... thus keeping him ripped, at my age or close). And then he meets this woman, whose body is the way it is because she just loves to **indulge** herself. In food, drinking, and (especially) sex.

Ahah it was actually fascinating to watch them together. You could literally see the 2 sides fighting for primacy inside the boy: In one corner, his lifelong rigid habits, with their visible results but all that forgone pleasure; in the other corner, saying "fuck it" and just letting himself be **overwhelmed** for once -- **with** AND **by** this woman.

The most fascinating part, in the 2 couples I saw like that, was the utter effortlessness of the woman. She wasn't **trying** to seduce the boy, nor did she ever **push** him to "let himself go for once". She was just... there, and

[redeyemindtricks]

the boy was pretty much seducing **himself**.

Also of note -- the 2 greatest femmes fatales I know (like, the women who drove men to leave their marriages, change their whole lifestyles, and pretty much just wreck their old selves all 'round) are both built like ancient fertility goddess statues.
Not shapeless-fat, but, like, US size 12-14 (UK 16-18 or euro 46-48ish) with fucking KILLER curves. The kind of woman you could knock up by **looking** at her for too long.

[karahiri]

@redeyemindtricks That's kind of... strangely awesome. I guess she represented everything that he had denied himself. All of that abundance and freedom. I wonder if that's the premise for similar couples I've seen in the past...

I completely get what you mean by "the kind of woman you can knock up by looking at her too long" :p Ah. I've seen that kind of woman before. Pretty stunning. Just so... womanly. lmao. 12/14 is pretty much average these days in the US anyways.

[redeyemindtricks]

"That's kind of... strangely awesome. I guess she represented everything that he had denied himself"
^^ yh
What's perhaps even more interesting, is that when I try to reverse the roles in my head — a woman whose diet and workout regimen are as strict as mine, being tempted by a boy of the more bacchanalian type — it just... doesn't intuitively work. Can't put a definite finger on it, but, if I had to guess, I'd wager it has something to do with the fact that most women have already beeen fighting ••internal•• battles with all sorts of indulgence for all their lives (... and have been much more conflicted about it, given how much more negativity we endure for our desires growing up).

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"Ah. I've seen that kind of woman before. Pretty stunning. Just so... womanly."

^^ Uhhuh. Tbh I still feel inferior standing next to a woman with a full-figured hourglass. There's a whole rabbit hole of thoughts that flow from that, but... not worth going into here.

__

[redeyemindtricks]

"12/14 is pretty much average these days in the US anyways"

^^ Yes and no.

Yes in terms of strictly mathematical averages, but, no if you're talking about anything middle-class or higher.
That mathematical average is the result of the fact that the lower socioeconomic classes are both MUCH fatter and MUCH more numerous than the middle, upper-middle and upper classes.

Among middle-class and higher people — especially in metro areas of any significant size — lmao the average woman is nowhere close to that big. In those demographics, the VAST majority of women are going to represent the same swath covered by "straight sizes" (= not plus sizes) in retail stores.
Because, like, businesses aren't all colossally fucking stupid ahha. There's a reason why basically EVERY store at yr local shopping mall — except for the one or two that cater specifically to plus sizes — stocks sizes 2-12 (maybe 0, 00 or 14), and primarily sizes 4-10. Because that's the size of the VAST majority of

[redeyemindtricks]

women in the middle class and above.

You could easily walk around a coastal city, and/or a reasonably well-to-do inner-ring suburb of a coastal city, all day long for an entire week or two before you'd see ONE non-pregnant woman who's too big for straight sizes.

[hellionthesagereborn]

well I have a couple of issues with this, first and foremost being your basically attacking men who don't want you because of your size. I mean, if you don't have to lower your standards then why do they? That's hypocritical. I also don't think any one said or believed that their is not one good looking guy who wouldn't be with some one who wasn't attractive and/or over weight, what is being acknowledged is that this is not the norm. Now I'm glad technology has allowed you to hone in on that small group but this doesn't change the fact that its still a small group. Secondly my question would be how many of them wanted a relationship and how many wanted sex? Because those are two different things, a man can want sex with a woman but not want a relationship. Acting like they are the same is a big mistake. The other issue is of course that your using ancedotes to justify to women who are not in good shape to continue to be unhealthy which of course is not going to work for probably 90% of women who are overweight and/or unattractive. I mean I know a woman who is alone and miserable and its specifically because (well she has a very entitled personality not unlike your own) she refuses to lower her expectations, she thinks she can get the rich good looking guy when she lives with her mother, barely works, is clearly lazy as hell (hence the extreme obesity) and has a shitty personality. She will be alone almost certainly for the rest of her life and this is the reality of most women in similar situations. When some one says this they are not being mean, they are telling you reality, they are encouraging you to work on yourself, be some one some one whishes to be with and in return you can have a better life. Its not an attack its an attempt to fix the problems that make you miserable. Your take seems to be a lot more about you being miserable not "empowered" as its you trying to justify yourself to the world, if you loved yourself, if you looked at yourself and saw yourself as attractive you wouldn't need to do that, you wouldn't go to a site and, from how your saying it I must imagine, have sex with random guys in order to feel like your desirable. I'm sorry but the facts still stand, if your overweight the likelihood of you being with a active muscular guy are slim. Your not entitled to love, especially if you don't even love yourself enough to try and make yourself better then you currently are.

[Tanisha69]

Wow well said that was deep af

[hellionthesagereborn]

@Tanisha69 Thanks. Most issues like this are an attempt to validate and prove to ourselves that what we are doing is acceptable rather then to others, and unfortunately leads to deeper suffering in the long run rather then making them feel better about themselves.

[HorrorFan]

"I'm Fat, But That Doesn't Mean I Have To Lower My Dating Standards"

Yes, you do.

"The fact that "fat chicks bang 'hot' guys" was one of the most powerful realizations I've had thus far."

Yeah. Men often cast wide nets when they want to get their dicks wet. Alcohol is a powerful thing.

"I found myself with over a hundred men who were champing at the bit to get with this. I was the one who had to sift through and pick the hottest of the hot. Ladies, over a hundred."

Your nose is growing, Pinocchio.

""Girls" showed what society thinks about that when Hannah's character has a weekend romance with an attractive and wealthy doctor. People flipped their shit."

"Girls" isn't real life. Movies and television also shows that every average Joe just needs to patiently wait for his dream girl's boyfriend to inevitably show the world that he's an evil prick to ultimately end up with the girl. This is why people grow up feeling entitled and thinking they are the main character to well... anything, instead of understanding that they are the random ass extra in the corner with maybe one line.

"Know this: the myth that "atypical" bodies can't be paired with "typically attractive" bodies is false. Women need to know that all bodies can be paired with all bodies and we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves."

So apparently the basic principles of supply and demand do not exist in Magical Christmas Land, the place you are clearly from. If fat, unattractive girls don't have to settle for less than the hottest guys, who are the hot girls sleeping with?

Are you suggesting we now live in a world where unattractive girls get hot guys and unattractive guys get the hot girls? Because if that were true, someone forgot to hand me my hot girl coupons.

You are delusional. Lose weight or accept reality.

[Ozanne]

I can't get over some of the comments here. What's wrong with just dating whoever the hell you want, and let others do the same? Attractive comes in all shapes, sizes, colours, and is filled with all different types of character traits.

Yeah sure, being overweight is unhealthy, but so is sitting and roasting in the sun all day, partying three nights a week, smoking, not sleeping enough or even sleeping too much, sitting on your stupid phone for hours a day. I bet there isn't a single person here who isn't guilty of doing something that can affect their health. The overweight issue is that it's a problem that people can visibly see in someone. You can't tell by someone walking down the street that they take too much Tylenol every day - killing their liver.

And what is lowering someone's standards other than selecting the right person that is right for *you*. That's what's important - not whether or not someone seemingly unattractive can bag someone who by society's standards is attractive.

Some of the worst people I've ever known in my life were physically attractive but had bullshit habits and personalities. Where does that make it in to someone's high standards? LOL :)

[Honeysuckle404]

The men... wait no boys, on GAG are some of the most disgusting rude and pathetic humans I've ever met. It's really sad. Just know that not everybody in the world are as cruel as the boys on this site.

[Ozanne]

@Honeysuckle404 Oh believe me, I know. :) Sometimes I think to myself that if I can make one comment to one person that might make them stop in their tracks and say to themselves, "she has a point" then my job here is done. LOL

[Anonymous]

no you don't. yes it's so stereotypical in this day and age that people only go for skinny, lean, and fit people because that's what society has classified as "normal" sadly...

i'm no girl who weighs 100lbs, has a thigh gap, is tall and just looks like a board. i really wish i did, but i know i never will because i don't have that kind of body structure that will allow me to look like that ever in my life

i haven't grew in height since i was 11 (I'm 20 now and still remain 5ft 2in tall) and even though i'm not thin as hell, i don't care because my body size doesn't determine my worth

even when people who are a lot skinnier would tell me to hit the gym, all i know is that i could snap their barbie/ken doll body within seconds because they were basically all skeleton to me.

when a guy tells me he'd date me if i were skinnier, all i tell him is "whatever..." because only somebody who has a right set mind about body image and how it doesn't determine who you are as a person will date you

[sjoes006]

Look I think the picture of morbidly obese persons and Take are off point. If you are morbidly obese maybe you gotta a guy who loves you to death and maybe not.

Is he hot should not be an issue. That's shallow af. You want to be loved for who you are and score with a hotty.

But most importantly you are forgetting the very main issue, YOU. YOUR HEALTH, QUALITY OF LIFE AND EXPECTANCY.

The one lady in the 'attractive and fat' she's just average or curvy, not skinny. But not unhealthy.

I know so much goes into becoming morbidly obese such as emotional issues, shame and it is debilitating.

But honestly, my objective is health first, man second and hot man... not on my list of qualifiers. I've never described a boyfriend as hot even if they maybe traditionally are and I date a wide range of men in terms of size.

My line is health condition. If you are my age and have trouble climbing the stairs our lifestyle isn't going to match up. And like any addiction, I can't stand by and watch you kill yourself.

It is an addiction.

[curiousnorway]

It's not about not deserving since in some cases losing weight is hard if you've a disease or genetic that makes losing weight harder, but if you don't want to lowering your standards you can't expect getting a person fitting into you standard. People wants what they wants and in the Western world the majority of people prefer a slim fit partner, in addition to the people belonging to the hot category is rare.

If you wants a handsome man it's a bigger chance getting one in Mauritania since the beauty standard there is different then in Europe, US etc. There it's a desirable feature to be overweight for women due cultural reasons, but since it's a patriarchy society men don't need to be overweight there. Some of them works a lot making them slim and fit.

I also have high standards in dating. I wants a partner who looks either South-European, Middle-eastern, Asian or South-American, but who's Norwegian like me, have same values as me and following Norwegian culture. It's less likely for me to find it since there's very few people who looks like that in my country and the majority of them are immigrants or refugees. If I first finds one who's both Norwegian and looks good, we also needs to be compatible in other ways too which is difficult to find. I don't want to lowering my standards, but I don't expect getting what I wants either.

[BrittBratt2416]

Just had the same conversation with a fat guy who complained about society thinking thin is beautiful but had the nerve to say skinny women are better and thinks fat girls are disgusting. How fucking hypocritical and entitled can a person get? You guys seriously amaze me, now I see why there's so many youtube videos criticizing fat people and saying fat acceptance is bullshit. You want the world and fine ass to accept you and see you as beautiful, but you won't give people that look the same way as you the time of day? Really? It's okay to call men who don't want fat girls shallow but totally okay to right off fat guys for the same thing? No that's not how it works. This just proves nobody wants to be fat or date a fat person, but if they are already fat they don't want to change. Also a lot of men have a fat fetish the same way like some guys have a foot fetish, otherwise those men would pick a much slimmer woman.

[DodgersGM]

There are a few things I really like about this take:

* it just goes to show that, yes, attraction is at least SOMEWHAT subjective. That's why bitter people (both men and women) will look at other couples and think, "what in the hell is he doing with HER?" Or, "what in the hell is she doing with HIM?"

* People shouldn't settle for someone they're not attracted to. That's just a sad situation for all involved.

At the same time, morbid obesity is not something to celebrate (keep in mind, I say this as someone who needs to drop thirty pounds himself). I mean, who cares if you're banging hotties in your twenties and thirties if you're gonna die in your forties or fifties?

[BronzedAdonis]

Sure some thirsty guys with no standards will pork you because you're a willing vagina but don't think that you're going to attract a quality man for anything serious.

People date within their means, garbage attracts garbage, peacocks attract peacocks. That's reality and unless you can bring something exceptional to the table you're Shit out of luck.

I'm honestly not trying to be a douche here but you're entitlement is off the scale (so is your weight) whatever helps you sleep at night but don't delude yourself into thinking you're ahead of the game, as if you can have your cake and eat it too (pun intended)

[Cryostatic]

Pretty much this. Tons of fit guys out there who'll happily fuck anyone they can get their cock into, regardless.

And if that's your game, you just want to hook up with fit dudes, then you're in luck. Line 'em up like a buffet. Just don't think that most of them aren't going to drop you like a sack of bricks if they can better deal you.

[afnabe]

guys who are lower than her standards aren't entitled to her either.

[Deathcore_Rulez_D00d]

You're right no one is entitled to her. So she has two options.

Settle for someone in her league, or stay forever alone.

I know for a fact, that most guys and girls get extremely annoyed and even feel outright insulted when people below their leagues approach them.

It's the equivalent of a PhD graduate being offered a minimum wage job at McDonalds.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Why is this woman

cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...b592-26cc00944e45-m.jpg

in same weight category as this woman

cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...b222-f605d09c9cab-m.jpg

[LittleSally]

She's not... or at least shouldn't be.

[yankees2]

@LittleSally WTF are you talking about?

[Krumpir]

I agree!! Wtf!! One is being curvy, second fat and third obese!! Thaz first one is obese, not even just fat and waaaaaay far away from beong curvy.

[Z-Spark]

No, i never met any hot guys who went for fat chicks, fat guys? yes they do sometimes but not always, being fat is not hot for anyone , i make an effort to not be fat and you should too unless you have a problem so serious you can even lost weight.

as for the guys you mentioned what i take from your take is that hot guys are open to sleeping with you, how do i put it in a nice way... guys will sleep with any willing woman regardless of age, color, body shape or weight , marry? now thats where most girls find it hard.

[afnabe]

you are making so many hasty generalizations. maybe op doesn't want a commitment? i personally would rather get used by a hot guy than be stuck with an ugly fat guy forever.

[Z-Spark]

@afnabe iam not generalizing iam telling you how guys think iam a guy with a dozen guy friends some are hot and some are not, they will literally fuck any willing woman but won't commit to said woman, you say you're cool with sleeping with hot guys and never commit than commiting to an ugly one... well most girls have a different mentality, if the ugly guy is a great provider they will marry him, and if they find a hot guy they will act like angels to keep him around cause having a hot guy who is smart with a good job as a husband is every girls dream.

[slutsdontgetoral]

I posted on this yesterday. People thought I was nuts. Dated several heavy women I found attractive. I'm a bodybuilder and we got strange looks out in public. I don't care. They don't share my bedroom. But, its not a blanket statement to say I like all heavy women. If she is heavy then big boobs and a round butt are a must. I don't wanna see ALL midsection. If she has small boobs and a flat butt I prefer her to be skinny. I think different fashion rules apply to big women. Don't like it when heavy women wear skinny girl clothes or show their midsections out in public. I prefer they wear makeup. But, I'm not gonna lie, a BBW rocking a dress that shows off boobs, butt and curves with a cute hairstyle and makeup does it for me. In the bedroom a curvy body feels better than a skinny body.

[Deathcore_Rulez_D00d]

What a fucking cancerous MyTake. So you reject ugly guys for their looks but when attractive guys reject you for your looks they're shallow?

Ugly guys need to stick with ugly girls and vice versa.

If you are unattractive, there should be no expectation for you to get attractive partners.

[Jemini_Crocket]

Even a girl who's healthy and exercises regularly, if she doesn't have a face like Angelina Jolie but the guy still finds her attractive, she still doesn't deserve the hot guy?

[Deathcore_Rulez_D00d]

I'm not saying unattractive girls deserve or don't deserve attractive guys. All I'm saying is that it's hypocritical for girls to reject unattractive guys but get made when attractive guys reject them for their looks

[afnabe]

thats not what she was trying to say. stop jumping into conclusions.

[Deathcore_Rulez_D00d]

She literally said
"we don't have to settle for fat guys even if we are fat ourselves."

Then
"If he doesn't like me then he is just shallow. You shouldn't be judged only by the way you look"
"

[Deathcore_Rulez_D00d]

Also I'm deanonymizing this shit because I hold my opinion loud and proud!

[MarcoIsAFailure]

1. many men are into fat girls. Usually slim ones. Fat guys just accept fat girls because they think they can't get someone better, but many slim guys are somehow into it.
2. Fat girls can look beautiful too. I'd rather date a fat girl with a beautiful face than someone with model like measurements but a train wreck for a face.
3. It's extremely clichee, but personality. It's harder to get a men to view you as a possible romantic partner, but if you do and persuade him with your personality, looks don't matter a dime anymore.

[MarcoIsAFailure]

@Doglover776 Sorry, but it's just true that many men think that way. Blame the message, not the messenger.

[Anonymous]

Women don't need to be hot to have sex with hot guys.

It's much harder though not impossible for fat women to get into monogamous relationships with hot guys.

But it's nice to emphasize that yes, fat guys have no hope of hooking up with women - hot or fat ones.

[Parakeeta]

I don't think that's true about the fat guys. They can have handsome faces etc and have hit chicks. I've seen it. And I've been attached to some fat guys.

[Parakeeta]

*attracted

[Tanisha69]

@Parakeeta maybe attached too lol :)

[afnabe]

ugh another hasty generalization

[Parakeeta]

@Tanisha69 😉

[Bandit74]

Its more common to see fat girls hooking up with hot guys than it is to see fat guys hooking up with hot girls, but its more common to see fat guys married to hot women than it is to see fat girls married to hot guys.

Since guys have lower standards for casual sex and the demand for casual sex is higher from males that allows girls to play around out of their leagues when it comes to hookups and flings.

[Anonymous]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
being fat is not just displeasing on the eyes but it shows your character. If you are fat it shows the world that you do not give a fuck about anything or anyone. If you aren't even willing to get into decent shape then you probably aren't going to be willing to do anything that remotely discomforts you.
Its the equivalant of getting into a relationship with a crack addict. Oh sure they may not look that ugly on a physical level but you know they are weak and until they get off that shit or you get off you lazy fat ass and put some effort into life nobody is going to want you except for maybe freaks who get off on that sort of thing.

[Ben_Dover]

Lol bro that's a risky comment but kind of true

[razor97]

@Idonthaveausername

[bubbles328]

Ok... so because you're fat you don't put any effort into your life? I'm not stick thin i'm not fat either, am I at the weight i want to be at? no I'd love to lose a stone or so however, the reason I haven't lost that stone is because i'm dragging my fat single mum ass to a higher level of education so I can have a job and live comfortable with my children! i'm OCD too and spend roughly 4/6 hours a day cleaning. Personally no my bodies not perfect but I excel in other areas of my life and it shouldn't matter if I weigh 50 stone I am a good person that doesn't lay around doing nothing all day and have a lot to offer! And no I don't go for the "perfect" looking guys because the conversation is crap and I find "perfect" with a self centred, shallow attitude unattractive more than fat!

[Idonthaveausername]

@razor97
Again, I agree with this guy that fat is unattractive on a personality level as well as a physical level. Fat people get heart disease and diabetes at an alarming rate, generally become fat from not understanding healthy diets, portion control, and being too sedentary and lazy to exercise, and die a lot younger than healthy people. That's not attractive in a romantic partner and certainly isn't a good role model for children. Fat isn't attractive and neither is a fat mentality. Healthy is attractive and so is are healthy mentalities and good mental health

[razor97]

@Idonthaveausername what about the take above

[Idonthaveausername]

@razor97
That's what I've been saying all along about people being able to love you for your personality over looks. More healthy guys are into fat women than healthy women into fat guys because biology makes it riskier for guys to be fat and women have an added bonus of healthier babies between being over and underweight. Curves also look better on fat women than skinny women while pudge does not look better on men than skinny. Basically fat women are more attractive than fat men

No I don't find fat people attractive, but some people do, and some people don't care if you're over, under, or just right weight. I'm healthy and I expect a man to also be healthy if he wants to be in a relationship with me, but I'd give a guy a chance if he was willing to lose weight and I liked his personality

No you don't have to lower your dating standards if you're fat, but that may cause you to end up alone if nobody attractive wants to be with you

[razor97]

@Idonthaveausername you said: "How attractive you are is a BS excuse to not be in a relationship. Mama June is in a relationship, Charles Manson just got married. You can't possibly be any worse off than either of those two"
you're contradicting yourself stupid bitch

[Idonthaveausername]

@razor97

How attractive you are isn't an excuse to be single, but self-pitying people like you use it as an excuse everyday

I'm not contradicting myself in any way. I stand by my statements

Fat, ugly, crippled people get married everyday to people who find them attractive. This Take refers to fat or unattractive women who refuse to lower their standards to date someone equal to them. No being fat or unattractive won't prevent you from being married, but refusing to date people who are of a similar level of attractiveness will if the people who are more attractive than you refuse to date you. Refusing to date people who are interested in you is your choice to be single and you can't force anybody to like you

Yeah Mama June and Charles Manson are married. You're putting yourself in a lower category than them by claiming you're too ugly to be married. You aren't too ugly to be married--you're too terrible of a person to be married

[Idonthaveausername]

@razor97

I'm not dumb. I'm much smarter than you will ever be. You should learn how to write a complete sentence before calling someone dumb. Throwing stones from glass houses is never advisable

Unattractive people get married all the time--I've said that a million times now. Some fat people are more or less attractive than others, but all fat people would be more attractive if they were healthy and lost weight

Still not stupid, still not a bitch. Repeating the same incorrect thing over and over again isn't going to make it true, it only detaches you further from reality and makes you look like an asshole

[razor97]

@Idonthaveausername i didn't repeat it to make it true, i repeat it because it's truee and you're denying it

[Idonthaveausername]

@razor97
You're dumb because you don't use punctuation, don't know how to write complete sentences, can't come up with a decent argument, and are using incorrect, generic insults

I am the one who uses facts and reality to explain my beliefs

I become smarter everyday because I learn new things everyday. I am not arrogant--I am confident, something you don't understand because you hate yourself too much. Once again, I am not nor will I ever be an idiotic bitch

You repeat it because you're a bully and you're trying to get me to block you and flag all your comments. That's not going to happen because I'm not a pushover and I don't let bullies have their way. You need to learn a lesson about respecting others and that being a little punk will kick your ass one day

[bubbles328]

Ok so being fat is unattractive because it's unhealthy so would you rather go out with a girl with a flawless body who was absolutely perfect but smoked 40 cigs a day or a fat person with a lovely personality, good job and a nice home? yeah thought so the thin smoker that's jeopardizing her health more than the fat person! So it's not a fat issue it's a shallow issue

[Idonthaveausername]

@bubbles328
Fat isn't a shallow issue, it's a health issue. My ex was a thin smoker and I tried to get him to quit the same way I would encourage a fat guy to lose weight. Being fat is aesthetic while smoking isn't (unless you count yellow teeth), so you can't compare the two in the same way

@razor97

You don't use punctuation correctly and you don't write complete sentences. When you ask a question, use a "?" at the end

I learn things by interacting with the human world and studying information

I don't deny things. I point out why you're wrong and you can't handle it because you're ignorant. I don't play the victim card. If I wanted to play the victim card, I would flag all of your comments and have you blocked from this site for being a disrespectful asshole

I'm not nor will I ever be a stupid bitch. I'm much smarter than you and don't complain nearly half as much

[bubbles328]

@Idonthaveausername You can when the excuse for disliking a fat person is it's unhealthy if that's the case smoking would be equally as unattractive if not more

[Idonthaveausername]

@razor97

You're welcome to go to Hell if you believe in it, but I won't

@bubbles328

Smoking and being fat are equally unattractive health wise, but smoking isn't as aesthetically unattractive as being fat. It is not shallow to not be attracted to fat people because you can't force someone to be attracted to you when they're not. We were biologically hard wired to view fit, athletic, and healthy people as attractive, so it's not shallow at all. A smoker who still looks healthy is going to look more attractive than a fat person

Both are fixable, so complaining about someone not being attracted to you for either one is your choice to be unhealthy

And I hated that my ex smoked, so don't think I'm defending smoking at all. I made him go outside and wouldn't let him smoke with me in the car. I tried to get him to quit just as much as I'd get a fat person to lose weight

[razor97]

@Idonthaveausername you're in my hell. and my hell is my argument. you seem very scared of what i have to say

[bubbles328]

@Idonthaveausername men are hardwired to like curvier girls this goes back to cave men times where drawings were found of fat girls worshipped by men more than skinny ones. Men saw these women and wanted to mate because they clearly had a good food supply. In many underdeveloped countries this is still the case. So the human race is actually hardwired to desire larger girls.

However, it was stated on here fat girls were undesirable because they lived a unhealthy lifestyle not because they were unappealing to the eye. However, now an argument presented against that has appeared everyones backtracking what they say. It's all good a lot of people are only attracted to what they see and with the way news and social media is going this issue is only going to get worse it will affect future generations of girls. We currently live in an incredibly shallow world and that's just how the cookie is crumbling right now

[bubbles328]

@razor97 WTF man? grammar nazi-ing is the lowest form of forum debate it's the "get out of the argument free card" used when you have no educated argument

[razor97]

@bubbles328 i used to have a decent debate without insults with her. and he kept denying anything for months. i said and called me a bitter boy. i wanted just to tell her that it's better to live in loneliness than affected by people.

[bubbles328]

@razor97 Well you said it now using low rate insults is not cool either you seem to like her but this is not the way to go

[razor97]

@bubbles328 i didn't say that using low rate insults isn't cool, they can be useful when dealing with people like her, but in this case the whine/bitch one wasn't an insult, she really is

[bubbles328]

@razor97 Talk nicely to her if you like her lol maybe PM her something sweet

[razor97]

@bubbles328 i can't be, if she wouldn't call me names and accept what i said and not reject it, maybe i will be guilty for her. but she doesn't care...

[Idonthaveausername]

@bubbles328
Yes I do agree that some men are attracted to heavier women, but they're attracted to heavy women with curves and not attracted to heavy women without curves, and this doesn't apply to all men. I actually made a comment in my last MyTake about how men in poor countries are attracted to heavy women due to having healthier babies than underweight women who can't afford to eat. Women carry extra weight better than men, so women can be more attractive than men with extra weight, but there is a certain point where the extra weight diminishes their attractiveness. But all women are most attractive at healthy weights

Fat can be unattractive due to health reasons as well. I personally want my future husband to live a long life and set good health examples for our children. Fat and smoking are both bad examples healthwise

Don't let him fool you. He's never been civil to me, has threatened to punch me in the face, called me a whore even though I'm a virgin, and a whiny bitch

[Idonthaveausername]

@bubbles328
And yes men prefer curvy girls over skinny girls, but most do not prefer overweight to healthy. A healthy curvy girl will get much more attention than a fat curvy girl, but both will get more attention than a skinny girl or non-curvy fat girl

[D_Bone_Steak]

NEWS FLASH!!! Guys will pump'n'dump a chunk or take one for the team, but not dedicate themselves to a fetish unless he's really obsessed with the fetish. Like I might like Asian chicks, but if she's not likeable as a person, she still doesn't have a chance... beyond getting banged that is.

As for dudes that do a LTR with a chunk... I think they're either trapped or they grew to love the girl before the body transformation... meaning they're being loyal to the person, but no longer jerking the worm to pictures of her.

[jennyPuss]

this is a ridiculous reality we are in. i think it was okaycupid who said that women on their site rated 80% of men on that site as not being attractive enough to date. what we are seeing is a disastrous climax of Darwinism at work- where women are overrating their own marketability. they are literally pricing themselves out of reproductive market. when a fat girl can compete with ME for a hot guy - there is something WRONG. why are the hot guys having sex with the fat girls? because they MUST... they are the only source of pussy to be had because too many attractive girls are bitches who think they have a golden pussy. guys HAVE to lower their standards do to sheer pussy deprivation. ladies- we need to start fucking our guys more. bring them back into the fold. we can't let those fatties get our good looking DNA. that belongs to us.

[dogfish]

you are not hypocritical , u can refuse to date anyone for any reason and it doesn't matter how ridculous it sounds to people. we shouldn't have to limit our selves to people with the same traits as we do. its not a crime to reject a fat guy when your fat too. i, for one, have been attracted to some fat girls cause i liked her face and character even when people would tell me I'm too hot and fit for her.
i know most handsome fit guys would bang this chick
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i date whoever I'm attracted to and i dont care what people think of me and her. people are the hypocrites, not you. fuck them all. im pretty sure if this was a guy writing this , barely anyone wouldve told him to tried to tell him to lower his standards.

[YBarros]

still I came jerk off, cuz she's look so cute.