I agree both parties are responsible for not being responsible. If the man don't want a headache and have no intentions of having said woman in his life "he" needs to strap up!
Annnd,
Men also do things to trap women and benefit from them if they get them pregnant. He gets the "woman" "he" likes pregnant intentionally too. Hold down too. Money too. Place to stay too.
Stupid double talk! Both men and woman can be a trip!
The good book is right... sex in marriage because it sure drive folks crazy with no self-control, selfish, jealousy, envious, etc... Poor decisions... Stinking thinking... Immature.
If you are going to do wrong, do wrong right.
If I was dude I would strap up, bring the before and after pill, because I'm not going to let nobody control my destiny that I only want in it for a day of pleasure.
Damn! It's the woman's fault if she have sex or not have sex. Damn women get blame for everything the man comes up with to do. If you ain't like your father Adam. Yeah, it was his fault we're in the state we're in. He was given the leadership to lead. He stood there and watch Eve do her thang when he could have taken leadership and knock that fruit away from her mouth and challenge the devil. Naw, he blamed her " the woman you gave me did this"
I’m not Christian but I know something you’re not considering... at this point humans didn’t know the difference between Good and evil or right and wrong.
Oh, my friend... Once there's a command or law by God (basically God tells you not to do something), the right and wrong is put in place. The good book says "Where there is no law there is no transgression". God told man "not" to eat of the tree of "Knowledge" of "Good" and "Evil". It was just that as well, once they ate of the tree "they" become knowledgeable of "Good" and "Evil". "They knew they were naked" before they did not... One of my favorite words spoken by God when he said to them "Who told you you were naked?" When they said they were hiding from God because they were naked.
A baby or toddler doesn't know to lie or do wrong. No one teaches a baby or toddler to lie or do wrong. Yet, they lie and do wrong. "Don't touch " The baby touch..."Did you touch it?" The baby nods and say no. Who taught the child to be disobedient and lie?
I am the son of a single mother. My father died in an auto accident leaving my mother widowed at age 28 and with me (age 10) and my sister (age 7). My mother had relationships with two men: one who I liked, the other who I did not. Regardless, if you're a man dating a single mother you must be prepared to accept that her children will always be the center of he life. A lot of men can't deal with that, but it is reality.
By the way, my mother never remarried. She was always in love with father, who she maintained was the only man that she could ever love.
If I can take my dating coach hat off for one minute.
Single parents should only date single parents.
As they both are in similar positions and they are used to the different kind of dramas.
At the end of the day it is not fair on someone who is not able to understand and also wants the "first time experience".
Personally I have dated a single mother and I will never do it again. It's too much drama, you will always be last and you will be a emotional & financial punching bag.
I help clients who are but to me I have always suggested to seek someone who is a experience and a better alternative. But hey that's my truth 🤷🏼♂️
Its funny, when we hear of someone as a single mum at work or as friends, the default thinking is that single mum fell victim to some scoundrel of a man.
But when we consider dating, we avoid single mums because we assume she is toxic; either she forced her partner away or got pregnant to trap him for money/relationship.
I guess the takeaway is single mums should date their work colleagues.
I might date a single mother exclusively if she had him young and the kid is almost out of the house, while she also puts me first over her child overall. Because in that context we're a family unit that's functional.
A guy can't be expected to play the role of dad without the authority of Dad and also being putting 2nd/3rd in life, while being expected to put her and her child before himself.
As long as we speak about dating, excluding single mothers from your dating options is limiting your self.
"They Made Their Bed and Must Lie In It" "You Come Last" - When you lie with them in this bed occasionally, it doesn't mean you can't stop it if there is no fun for you or she starts to neglect you as guy she dates at some point. (We speak about dating)
"Women Get Pregnant to Keep Men" "Women Get Pregnant to get Money" "Biological Selection" - Girls without kids can try to baby trap you as well, there is no difference to single mothers.
"She is the Reason Baby Daddy Left" - if you aren't an unicorn hunter and you date exclusively virgins, there is always someone who left them because of some reason before you. No matter she she has a child or she doesn't.
There are genuine single mothers through divorce, death or father turned addict. They get my sympathy there is also the kind that sleep around casual sex then expect taxpayer's to fund there life who do they think they are sleeping around then sponging off welfare these girls disgust me. No one has a god given right to welfare
I wouldn't date a single mother being as who wants to take care of someone else's children? I have a friend whose 36 years old and has three children age 2 years to 6 years old. She was married in her 20's and got divorced and has these little children. I do feel bad for the children cause they don't have a father figure unless the dad's in the picture still. I couldn't imagine what the children go through when my friend brings new guys into the picture trying to replace her ex husband as the father figure.
@espresso-grande Your subjective experience is YOUR experience. I know women who have a baby by one dude then lie to another and say it is theirs just so they could have a baby by the more attractive dude. Or women who have casual sex all the time and then end up with a kid... Women are not saints. You may live in some good area where people are good but the rest of the world is not all the same. You thought just because you put No Replies I wouldn't get to you hahaha. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED HAHAHA. Na seriously though keep a neutral mindset cause there are good men choosing awful women out there and there are good women who get left by men too for no good reason. Be neutral because all possibilities exist. No if you excuse me I have to flush the toilet.
I don’t like the idea of some other guy spending more time with my kids than I do. single moms aren’t realistic partners for those of us who practice high parental investment andxx CD want to invest in our own kids.
@Brainsbeforebeauty That's called mother nature. There is no such thing as a double standard in this situation since men and women are biologically different and their preferences in what is attractive in a mate also differs. Men are biologically made to be repulsed by women who have slept around, while this is not the same for women when it comes to men having multiple sexual partners.
There is a reason why a woman who sleeps around is seen as a slut in the eyes of both men and women, while a man who sleeps around is a stud. Educate yourself before you throw random terms just because you don't like reality.
@Brainsbeforebeauty I never said I expect a virgin. I'm not willing to marry at all. What I'm saying is that once a woman has given it up all over town, she ought not be expecting a guy to marry her and provide for her kids.
Just because a woman is a single mother doesn't mean she "was giving it up all over town" tho does it 🤔 and again why can guys fuck anything in town and d that's okay 🤔
@Brainsbeforebeauty Because men who do not try will be criticized by women and society. In the eyes of women, a man who is sexually inexperienced and can't get women easily is seen as "not wanted". While the opposite applies to women. Men and women are biologically programmed differently to find something attractive in the other. So there is no "double standards" there if the dynamics are not to be compared, in the first place. If women actually put a standard to NOT getting with men who are sleeping around, then you wouldn't be complaining about "double standards".
As a man whore yourself, keep sleeping around. one day you will find yourself a baby daddy then you will be blaming the "single mother" for having to pay child support.
Continue to have sex outside of marriage and murder your children, it will only cost you eternity. You suggesting it is better for the child to be murdered is the definition of evil. You are right it takes two to have a child, but it only takes one to not have sex without marriage. Not every single mother slept around, some are widows or legally divorced. Not ideal, but no reason to murder a child. The most responsible and safe sex is only found in marriage, no birth control is 100% and condoms still pass STDs.
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There are definitely more scenarios of single moms than you show and with high divorce rates and marriage on the decline many babies were planned by both partners and are not an accident. If I leave my partner I am successful and plan to not give a shit how men like you perceive me 😂 I can understand someone wanting to start their own family and not get involved with the complexity of a pre existing one however.
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Sorry bro I agree with women here.
You need to stop finding fault in women. People make mistake we gotta forgive them.
I won't like to take care of child from another man. That's how I feel and that's why I will avoid single women mostly.
Different people different characters , different situations different reasons.
There's no meaning in over thinking and creating stereotypes. We gotta take everything into account to judge someone's character.
They may be making excuse but let's hear them out and try to understand.
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Can tell you are a simp with this logic. Takes too to tango. If a woman lets a man cum inside of her that would make a poor father she is at fault. Even more so since she carried the child to term and had many opportunities to abort the pregnancy. Women need to take responsibility and use practical sense in addition to vagina tingles when selecting a partner.
"Often times a baby daddy is the one that is blamed for doing this."
Why can't we talk about the fact that the men who shouldn't have a child are the ones cumming inside a bunch of women. Why is it not their responsibility as well? I've always been on the pill so I don't take offense personally. But I do have a lot of friends ho are single moms.
@StephanieL It is but women are more at fault because 1. They lack the skills to weed these men out as fathers for their children 2. Even after becoming pregnant have the option to abort it early on but continue to birth the child despite knowing the dad does not have the necessary traits to be a father.
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I agree both parties are responsible for not being responsible. If the man don't want a headache and have no intentions of having said woman in his life "he" needs to strap up!
Annnd,
Men also do things to trap women and benefit from them if they get them pregnant. He gets the "woman" "he" likes pregnant intentionally too. Hold down too. Money too. Place to stay too.
Stupid double talk! Both men and woman can be a trip!
The good book is right... sex in marriage because it sure drive folks crazy with no self-control, selfish, jealousy, envious, etc... Poor decisions... Stinking thinking... Immature.
If you are going to do wrong, do wrong right.
If I was dude I would strap up, bring the before and after pill, because I'm not going to let nobody control my destiny that I only want in it for a day of pleasure.
Damn! It's the woman's fault if she have sex or not have sex. Damn women get blame for everything the man comes up with to do. If you ain't like your father Adam. Yeah, it was his fault we're in the state we're in. He was given the leadership to lead. He stood there and watch Eve do her thang when he could have taken leadership and knock that fruit away from her mouth and challenge the devil. Naw, he blamed her " the woman you gave me did this"
Damn!
I’m not Christian but I know something you’re not considering... at this point humans didn’t know the difference between Good and evil or right and wrong.
Oh, my friend... Once there's a command or law by God (basically God tells you not to do something), the right and wrong is put in place. The good book says "Where there is no law there is no transgression". God told man "not" to eat of the tree of "Knowledge" of "Good" and "Evil". It was just that as well, once they ate of the tree "they" become knowledgeable of "Good" and "Evil". "They knew they were naked" before they did not... One of my favorite words spoken by God when he said to them "Who told you you were naked?" When they said they were hiding from God because they were naked.
A baby or toddler doesn't know to lie or do wrong. No one teaches a baby or toddler to lie or do wrong. Yet, they lie and do wrong. "Don't touch " The baby touch..."Did you touch it?" The baby nods and say no. Who taught the child to be disobedient and lie?
I am the son of a single mother. My father died in an auto accident leaving my mother widowed at age 28 and with me (age 10) and my sister (age 7). My mother had relationships with two men: one who I liked, the other who I did not. Regardless, if you're a man dating a single mother you must be prepared to accept that her children will always be the center of he life. A lot of men can't deal with that, but it is reality.
By the way, my mother never remarried. She was always in love with father, who she maintained was the only man that she could ever love.
If I can take my dating coach hat off for one minute.
Single parents should only date single parents.
As they both are in similar positions and they are used to the different kind of dramas.
At the end of the day it is not fair on someone who is not able to understand and also wants the "first time experience".
Personally I have dated a single mother and I will never do it again. It's too much drama, you will always be last and you will be a emotional & financial punching bag.
I help clients who are but to me I have always suggested to seek someone who is a experience and a better alternative. But hey that's my truth 🤷🏼♂️
Its funny, when we hear of someone as a single mum at work or as friends, the default thinking is that single mum fell victim to some scoundrel of a man.
But when we consider dating, we avoid single mums because we assume she is toxic; either she forced her partner away or got pregnant to trap him for money/relationship.
I guess the takeaway is single mums should date their work colleagues.
I might date a single mother exclusively if she had him young and the kid is almost out of the house, while she also puts me first over her child overall. Because in that context we're a family unit that's functional.
A guy can't be expected to play the role of dad without the authority of Dad and also being putting 2nd/3rd in life, while being expected to put her and her child before himself.
As long as we speak about dating, excluding single mothers from your dating options is limiting your self.
"They Made Their Bed and Must Lie In It"
"You Come Last"
- When you lie with them in this bed occasionally, it doesn't mean you can't stop it if there is no fun for you or she starts to neglect you as guy she dates at some point. (We speak about dating)
"Women Get Pregnant to Keep Men"
"Women Get Pregnant to get Money"
"Biological Selection"
- Girls without kids can try to baby trap you as well, there is no difference to single mothers.
"She is the Reason Baby Daddy Left"
- if you aren't an unicorn hunter and you date exclusively virgins, there is always someone who left them because of some reason before you. No matter she she has a child or she doesn't.
Yeah you see those dating profiles seeing "my child comes first!!" and that's a big step away, far away.
If anything, someone new in their life should be an equal and can totally make time for both the date and child if they get further along.
There are genuine single mothers through divorce, death or father turned addict. They get my sympathy there is also the kind that sleep around casual sex then expect taxpayer's to fund there life who do they think they are sleeping around then sponging off welfare these girls disgust me. No one has a god given right to welfare
Having casual unprotected sex the woman will come out worst she will be left with an unexpected child while the man moves on to someone else
I wouldn't date a single mother being as who wants to take care of someone else's children? I have a friend whose 36 years old and has three children age 2 years to 6 years old. She was married in her 20's and got divorced and has these little children. I do feel bad for the children cause they don't have a father figure unless the dad's in the picture still. I couldn't imagine what the children go through when my friend brings new guys into the picture trying to replace her ex husband as the father figure.
@espresso-grande Your subjective experience is YOUR experience. I know women who have a baby by one dude then lie to another and say it is theirs just so they could have a baby by the more attractive dude. Or women who have casual sex all the time and then end up with a kid... Women are not saints. You may live in some good area where people are good but the rest of the world is not all the same. You thought just because you put No Replies I wouldn't get to you hahaha. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED HAHAHA. Na seriously though keep a neutral mindset cause there are good men choosing awful women out there and there are good women who get left by men too for no good reason. Be neutral because all possibilities exist. No if you excuse me I have to flush the toilet.
I don’t like the idea of some other guy spending more time with my kids than I do.
single moms aren’t realistic partners for those of us who practice high parental investment andxx CD want to invest in our own kids.
* and want to invest
I'll be her fun guy on the side; but no way am I signing up for the beta male provider role. No hymen, no diamond ladies !
So you're not a virgin but you expect a virgin... Typical double standards
@DCooper Absolutely well said!
Double standards are standards, don't like it, don't let him bang you.
@Brainsbeforebeauty That's called mother nature. There is no such thing as a double standard in this situation since men and women are biologically different and their preferences in what is attractive in a mate also differs. Men are biologically made to be repulsed by women who have slept around, while this is not the same for women when it comes to men having multiple sexual partners.
There is a reason why a woman who sleeps around is seen as a slut in the eyes of both men and women, while a man who sleeps around is a stud. Educate yourself before you throw random terms just because you don't like reality.
@Brainsbeforebeauty I never said I expect a virgin. I'm not willing to marry at all. What I'm saying is that once a woman has given it up all over town, she ought not be expecting a guy to marry her and provide for her kids.
Just because a woman is a single mother doesn't mean she "was giving it up all over town" tho does it 🤔 and again why can guys fuck anything in town and d that's okay 🤔
@Brainsbeforebeauty Because men who do not try will be criticized by women and society. In the eyes of women, a man who is sexually inexperienced and can't get women easily is seen as "not wanted". While the opposite applies to women. Men and women are biologically programmed differently to find something attractive in the other. So there is no "double standards" there if the dynamics are not to be compared, in the first place. If women actually put a standard to NOT getting with men who are sleeping around, then you wouldn't be complaining about "double standards".
@TruthBringer - In the eyes of women, a man who is sexually inexperienced and can't get women easily is seen as "not wanted".
This is so true!!!
Yes, op. please don't date single mothers! Their children need better dads and they need better partners
Extra weight. Both emotional and potential children.
Life is not a walk in the park as it is, even if you're somewhat loaded.
Last thing I would want is an overburdened woman bringing her griefs on an already overloaded table.
As a man whore yourself, keep sleeping around. one day you will find yourself a baby daddy then you will be blaming the "single mother" for having to pay child support.
or a nasty STD. Condoms dont protect from everything.
Im not a man whore. Being a ladies man is infatuation and attraction of women. A gay man could be a ladies man.
Being a ladies man is another way of saying you have kids you never knew about.
Continue to have sex outside of marriage and murder your children, it will only cost you eternity. You suggesting it is better for the child to be murdered is the definition of evil. You are right it takes two to have a child, but it only takes one to not have sex without marriage. Not every single mother slept around, some are widows or legally divorced. Not ideal, but no reason to murder a child. The most responsible and safe sex is only found in marriage, no birth control is 100% and condoms still pass STDs.
There are definitely more scenarios of single moms than you show and with high divorce rates and marriage on the decline many babies were planned by both partners and are not an accident. If I leave my partner I am successful and plan to not give a shit how men like you perceive me 😂 I can understand someone wanting to start their own family and not get involved with the complexity of a pre existing one however.
Sorry bro I agree with women here.
You need to stop finding fault in women. People make mistake we gotta forgive them.
I won't like to take care of child from another man. That's how I feel and that's why I will avoid single women mostly.
Different people different characters , different situations different reasons.
There's no meaning in over thinking and creating stereotypes. We gotta take everything into account to judge someone's character.
They may be making excuse but let's hear them out and try to understand.
Can tell you are a simp with this logic. Takes too to tango. If a woman lets a man cum inside of her that would make a poor father she is at fault. Even more so since she carried the child to term and had many opportunities to abort the pregnancy. Women need to take responsibility and use practical sense in addition to vagina tingles when selecting a partner.
"Often times a baby daddy is the one that is blamed for doing this."
Why can't we talk about the fact that the men who shouldn't have a child are the ones cumming inside a bunch of women. Why is it not their responsibility as well? I've always been on the pill so I don't take offense personally. But I do have a lot of friends ho are single moms.
@StephanieL It is but women are more at fault because 1. They lack the skills to weed these men out as fathers for their children 2. Even after becoming pregnant have the option to abort it early on but continue to birth the child despite knowing the dad does not have the necessary traits to be a father.
I refuse to take care of another mans seed. It sounds horrible but humans are still animals at the end of the day.
Exactly. Alpha fucks and beta bucks. No man with self-respect is going to be the 'beta' giving bucks