Has feminism destroyed the dating scene for men?

Question

Due to feminism men can't say anything to women without being accused of being sexist or accused of "sexual harassment". We have to be careful what we say to avoid being accused of being "sexist". There is even a case where a woman accused a man of "sexual harassment" all because he said hello.

Plus men are being shamed and vilified by women and told to "act" and "behave" a certain way around or with women and generalised as "sexist nice guys who feel entitled to women"

Whats even more frustrating is the "fat acceptance" movement and "body positive" movement that says that all body types are "beautiful" and that men must accept all women and "beauty is on the inside" and if you don't find fat women attractive you are "sexist" meanwhile these are the same women who only want to date guys who are six foot tall and have six pack abs.

So how can you demand body "acceptance" when you won't do the same for say for example fat men?

Lastly feminism has misguided women teaching them that men who act like men are "sexist and bad" and women must date "feminine" men

bente2 · Accepted Answer

What?

You have definitions all mixed up. Feminism is creating equality. Catcalling and the such is wrong, but somehow you view it as a compliment? Yes, we see a lot of things as sexual harassment because they are. What would you do if some woman just came up to you, grabbed your balls and starting sexualising your appearance? If 30+ yo men started shouting things like "ey girl, nice tits!" to your 13 yo daughter? You should watch the how I met your mother ep where barney's brother visits.

Men don't understand sexual harassment very well, because they are rarely the victim of it. Ask any guy that's been sexually assaulted and he'll tell you how awful it was and how it changed his view on catcalling, giving compliments etcetera. You having to be "wary" of what you say and being mad for it explains perfectly why we need feminism.. guys seem to think shouting things at women (or just saying them) is supposed to be normal? Like it's nice to hear? No, it's not. I don't need you all uo in my business telling me how nice my legs are. Or where i'm going. Or touching me in a club because i'm wearing a tight dress. My body is mine, and you have no right to touch it sans permission. Shouting inappropriate things at me is harassment, just like me shouting "you cancer twat!" At every guy I see qould be harassment.

I fucking hate how all guys say women only date tall men with sixpacks? Like? Most men ARE taller than women. So that's not even a major issue. There aren't a lot of guys with sixpacks out there, and I've never met a woman that said "oh, i will only date a guy if he has a sixpack." Literally, never. Just like being skinny but having boobs and thighs, though not too big, is considered ideal in the media for women, sixpacks are for men. Normal people don't actually care much.

Fat acceptance is wrong. But so is fat shaming. Fat people are unhealthy, yes, but it's not your job to tell them. I thought so too for a while, but what can you do when they don't WANT to lose weight? It's their body. I've also never heard of anyone calling a guy sexist for saying fat people are unhealthy. If you sy "women shouldn't be fat" however, that is sexist.

All body types are beautiful as long as you're healthy. Fuck, i have so much left to say but it's not like yo dumb ass will comprehend.

nevermoregirl7 · Accepted Answer

Dude, why do you ask a question if you already are stuck with your opinion. I honestly don't get why anyone does it. Is this your soapbox moment?

Honestly feminism has been around since the 1960's in America and clearly has not destroyed any dating scene since, you know, you're here.
And my feminism has not prevented me from dating any man. I am even in a relationship with one. If a guy is so shallow that he can't stand my political belief, they can fuck off to whatever make-believe perfect girl they are fapping to.

RJGraveyTrain · Accepted Answer

No? Lol. I get that there's crazy ass feminists out there but honestly I find more of them online than in real life. Even half of the girls who claim that shit online won't say half of what they do in person.

There's normal ass girls out there, like me, who aren't like that.

mistixs · Accepted Answer

Studies show that most women find chubby men hotter than men with six-packs, and most chubby men report not feeling judged for it.   Imagine the equivalent numbers for chubby women.

krash2002 · Accepted Answer

I'm reading a lot of the replies and I believe there's a large disconnect between what you're trying to say and how people are interpreting it.

What I believe you're trying to say is that the definition of Feminism by society is exactly as you're saying it, but the book definition is something else entirely.

To sum up what my presumptions are based on what I think you're trying to say. Society is turning feminism in a power trip tool to let women use it against men who want to be a nice guy and not be a total jerk while dating. It's used as a method to let men know that women can do whatever they want and you have to accept while. While the book definition states that Feminism is for women to be seen as equals to men. To receive the same pay, same rights at their place of work, same rights on the streets, and not be degraded by men for being a woman.

So, my reply to your question is that I do agree partially with you by society standards of Feminism. Often times women don't see that for men in this world. Feminism to them is no longer the Websters dictionary version. That it's morphed into a weapon used by many women to make men guilty for something that few men do. The fat shaming, catcalling, belittling pay standards, and the thoughts that women are sex objects. Is a thought process that I rarely see in most men and it's perpetuated upon the remaining group of men who don't think that way. Punishing the men who want to be a good guy and treat women equally. Making them feel internally that being Nice Guy is seen as something wrong.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

a) Feminism encourage man hating and telling women that majority are trash.

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b) Social media gave women so many options in dating that they don't take dating seriously and will NEXT YOUR ASS or DUMP YOUR ASS AT ANY MOMENT.

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Men being pathetic, WK, grovelling, and straight up liking nearly every girl they see out of desperation has also compounded women to increase their standards and go for men above their league.

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Media promoting that women are still as hot in their 30's and 40's as they are in their 20's and a lot of women therefor putting dating on hold to get a degree/job and become a career women. This is attributed partially due to feminism pushing for this and shaming women being house wives.

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All these 3 result in:
1. A massive shift in dating to the top % of guys having a field date and a ridiculous number of sexual partners.

2. A lot of girls frustrated of inability to get a relationship.

3. A lot of girls not taking dating seriously.

4. Mentally fucked up in the head women who have become closed off emotionally because they got pump and dumped too many times by guys they wanted a relationship with.

hellionthesagereborn · Answer

Yep, they have demanded men be emasculated then ridicule men for being emasculated. A guy tries to act nice and either he is secretly an asshole for some inexplicable reason or he is a creep, again for some inexplicable reason. If you have sex and she decides she regrets it you get accused of rape, if you say anything to a woman and she doesn't like it your evil and bad (or in the case of one man who tried to hit on a woman at a bar, she bashed his face in with a glass resulting in him getting 15 stitches (she was never charged with anything despite it being her second time doing this). Then of course women demand that men have no standards but women get to keep theirs and any man who argues is a sexist pig. If your on a date and you pay your a sexist pig but if you don't your a cheap asshole that is clearly not interested, if she offers to pay and you don't accept your a sexist pig, if she offers and you do accept your a cheap asshole that is clearly not interested. IF you off to split same thing. They want you to treat them like equals but also like princesses but you don't know when your suppose to treat them like an equal or when your suppose to treat them like a princess so no matter what you do your always wrong. They are "strong and independent"(despite wanting you to pay for everything, ask them out and do all the hard work) and they are not hear to please you, but of course you do exist to please them and god help you if you fail. almost 80% of all divorces are filed by women and they get everything when they do even if they are abusive, even if they cheated they still get everything you worked for. All of this because feminism has stated that women are better then women and deserve more rights more privilges and have placed women on such a high pedestal that no man can even come close the expectations they have. So yes feminism has destroyed the dating scene (and marriage, and families, and equality and the relationships between the genders).

KnightCross · Answer

NO DOUBT OF IT.

Feminism made girls to be less feminine. Less feminine not only in the female's mentality but in the female standard of beauty too. That's why there is stupidities like "Fat body acceptance movement" as you exemplified.

Feminism , as you said, misguides women by making them think that a man being a male is wrong. So the current modern man became "pussified". He is afraid of being himself because of the judgements that other girls (and even other men!) may impute to him.

Some delusional girls actually think that Feminism was beneficial for them in the dating scene because now they suffer less "sexual harassment" by undesired men. But there is one important draw back that those Feminists usually don't think of: Feminism is a force that tend to make men overall to become less attractive, because it's stripping his male sexual behaviour.

So in this dating scene, the average man has his chances of approaching a girl significantly reduced because of his fear of sexist accusations. But the same does not apply for good looking/attractive men since women will not really see their actions as "sexist", actually they even might like that.

PLUS... If you add the Sexual Liberation to the Feminism (which actually came into scene since 2nd Wave), then we have a total disaster in the dating scene. We have women offering sex in large amount in the "dating market", hence that incentives the hegemony of "players"(guys who don't want to commit), making things harder for the girls themselves to stay in a meaningful relationship.

Anonymous · Answer

I think it did affect the dating scene in a big way. For the worst too. I mean it made women way more greedy in that they expect to be treated the same as men but only when it suits them. They hardly ever ask out guys, most don't want to pay for dates. All the burden is on us guys. On top of that it made the quality of women less. A lot of they enjoy sexual freedom but in turn we are left we mostly sluts in the dating scene that a lot of men don't want. They like to thow their feminist believes at you and their lies which is annoying as hell so it's like just shut the hell up with your bs. Then there is how as a guy you can't do anything or you might get called a rapist or that you sexually assulted her. If she had a drink and you have sex, she could call you a rapist. If you complement her in a way she doesn't like or she doesn't like you, sexual assult. On top of that they made it so there is very little benifits for a guy to enter a relationship and mostly it's drawbacks. She could divorce you and take half of every thing you own including your half of you future paychecks. She can take away your kids. All because the legal system favours women. You are told you have to love this woman even if she no longer even tries. She can gather fat and you have to accept her, she could have been a huge slut and lied to you abut it till it was too late but you still have to love and accept here. Hell marriages and relationships were catch 22's back in the day and were trade offs of pros and cons. Now they are almost completely cons. It's sad really.

skaterkid123 · Answer

Yeah I hate feminism too but ignorant people exist.

You gotta remember women rationalise many things but deep down they can't control them. For example back in highschool this is a normal thing:

Girl meets guy
guy is a dick
girl hates the guy
guy keeps bothering and teasing girl
girl starts to think of how annoying guy is
guy keeps at it
girl keep thinking about said guy
fast forward a few months girl starts feeling attraction
guy dates girl turns out to be a jerk
girl goess to guy friend and complain
guy friend has no idea why she dont choose him
girl doesn;t know why she doesn't like mr nice guy

Attraction is subconcious. Same way were attracted to nice butts and boobs, girls are attracted to leadership (not confidence) if you have goals, self respect and don't let women treat you like an ugly little brother women will be attracted to you. While you whine and complain online on your lack of luck you should be instead working on what you wanna do, doing sports having your own life. When you like a girl dont be all like

"hey, how are you"

Be like

"My name is X and I saw you and think you're attractive would you like to have a chat over some coffee (or whatever think you're into)"

if she says no move on and dont be"just friends" (unless you want her as a friend) and if you choose to be womens friend be her friend not some fake friend who is always wishing to get in her pants.

PatriarchalOppressor · Answer

Feminism is now irrelevant. Follow this one simple rule as a man and you effectively make moot women's & the state's entitled attitude towards men, male disposability, cultural misandry, female privilege and the naturally recurring grown spoilt child attitude of women & the state. Here it is, boys - the existential awakening game-changer for men rule:

Never give a woman and/or the state any level of legal, financial, emotional, physical, intellectual, psychological nor spiritual power over your life - to the extent legally possible.

That's it. Gynocentrism has only the power over men that men allow. Pull the rug out from under women's entitled feet and gynocentrists will be on their knees begging for forgiveness. Stock up on knee pads, gynocentrists. You're most certainly going to need them in the relatively near future.

There's a reason why men rule the earth, ladies. We built all you take for granted upon it.

simple-question · Answer

Feminism and media, as its vehicle, have trained women to have little or no respect for men and women in general in the west have developed extreme narcissism such that the culmination of the two creates a tremendous chip on their shoulders. They have to maintain absolute autonomy per the feminism mantra and they overcompensate for this by acting like bad-asses. They cuss and swear brag about having lots of partners, describe their every vaginal impulse in public and don’t really try to look attractive anymore. They again overcompensate adding piercings in the most obscure place, gets tattooed up like graffiti on the NY subway, get a butch bleach blond dye job, and I have to say seem to wreak of diseases. While I have described the extreme example there are still varying degrees of the aforementioned all the way back to the most seemingly innocent girl. …YES

IEat70sBush · Answer

No difference for me, I fuck them first, date 2nd if they are a good fuck. Safe to say not many are worth dating (Maybe.1%, though I don't have enough notches in my bedpost for a real statistical sample). I really don't care what I'm called; sexist, pervert, pedo, whatever. I just ignore them. As far as shaming good luck trying that with guy that has no shame and doesn't care. I never paid attention to body acceptance or any other ridiculous movement. If I think you are fat and you blatantly try to pretend that you are not I will set you straight and tell you how much shit I think you are full of. I know that idiotic statement that "beauty is on the inside" is horseshit and at best it's just a matter of opinion. One I simply don't agree with. I see it as a way for fat/ugly people to lie to themselves and cope so they don't commit suicide like they should.

America1st · Answer

It has changed many things because they think what being a gentleman means. I, as a man, have found that I can still be the gentleman I want to be. If a crazy feminists doesn't like it, I'm fine with that because I have no interest in a lady that thinks like the Fems. They burned their bras, which was really stupid, and they are still as deluded, if not more so, as they were many years ago. Real women love being treated the way they are by a gentlemen. It's real simple to overcome their BS. I don't care what they say and it never let it bother me. I am secure in who I am and I only care what the women in my life say. There are more and more women that are realizing how wrong the Fems are.

TAPioneer · Answer

I think it has. It's hard to ask a cute girl you meet for her number or just compliment her appearance when you're afriad of being possibly accused of sexual harassment. Plus I hate being shamed for saying I'm not attracted to obese girls. Is it wrong to say I want a significant other who can at least ride a bike with me someday. So yes I do judge girls on their physical appearance as well as personality and intelligence. Everyone including wemon should strive to have good physical, mental, and social health. This means we shouldn't promote that it's ok to be fat, ignorant, and/or rude. And Jeniffer Lawrence is not fat at all! It's the type of men and wemon that accuse her of being fat that should be ridiculed. I'm also not a attracted to a girl if she super skinny cause that's unhealthy aswell, so it goes both ways. It's just that more girls are obese than healthy or anorexic so I'm more likely to turn down a fat girl and that's all a feminist sees.

genericname85 · Answer

not "feminism" has. women have. women are so entiteled to be seen as equal yet set a relationship up as inequal by still wanting to be treated, to be approached, men should pay the bill and so on.

women don´t know that they can´t have all they want and if a guy gives them all they want, that guy is probably bad for them.

as to the plus size issue: there are loads of girls out there who don´t mind it even without anybody making this a public issue. why would you take the few superficial girls as representatives for women xD

Marshall2105 · Answer

it hasn't at all. a lot of what feminists say is asking for respect from men, that's all. for the all body's are beautiful thing, they are. it's not asking you to be attracted to everyone, but it's saying that fat people aren't ugly, curvy girls aren't objects, skinny girls aren't sticks. it's saying that that even if they aren't attractive to you, you shouldn't put people down for their body

Anonymous · Answer

True also it encourages women to shame men because they just tried with a woman. Even a nice hello is often met by being insulted and called a creep. They teach that it is better to shove away the 8 good guys and the 2 maybe creeps that to try talking and risking the guy maybe being a creep.

MiaJay · Answer

Why do men that don't understand the full concept of feminism keep trying to talk about it? Feminism is about women fighting for the same rights as men, to be more than just a pussy in this society. It's not about being lunatics acting crazy against everything men say or do.

goddess87 · Answer

No. With the rate of the new generation boys trying to financially live off women and not paying for dates, it sounds like a feminist is exactly what they wanted. A strong, independent, financial successful woman. Can't have it both ways. I'm a traditional woman and proud of it

yaanis · Answer

Well if girl think saying hello is sexual harassment, quiz i have nothing better to do and im trying to kill time by chatting, well she can go to hell, lucky in Europe you can't be charged, for that kind of harasment. No need to waste my time with her, since i dont realy care what she's thinking of me.

nalaa · Answer

Ah please if anything it destroyed the dating scene for women.
If you can go up to a woman you like and ask her out you're already in the top 70% of men these days whereas the rest send "Hi" messages on tinder or well... do nothing and persumably complain online about how women are undateable. Asking a woman out in the until about the 80s was the bare minimum you had to do but now it's actually a rare quality

Bezbozhnikustanka · Answer

There are more straight women than there ate straight men so every man who want a girlfriend should be able to get one, but, you need to be realistic, you wouldn't expect to drive out of the showroom in a Bugatie Vayron if you only had£1,500, don't expect hot chicks to fancy you if you're bald, fat,40 and living in your mum's basement.

Anonymous · Answer

this is such an excuse
im a guy and i dont make these excuses and feminism causes a few issues

DON'T DATE FEMINIST LOL THERE ARE VERY FEW HONESTLY
the real issue is choice and belief

MEN AND WOMEN BELIEVE STUPIDLY
I realized that now that im older

NO ONE STUDIES EVERYONE IS IGNORANT OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD THERE STUPID

and the few that do know whats going on are called crazy
so this has nothing to do with feminazis

CHOICE AND BELIEF

Monstarz · Answer

i agree women dont like to be told "act like a lady" while they say to men "you need to act like a man" tsk tsk

wittymilf · Answer

Never met a feminist before, are they even real? I only ever see men discussing feminism.

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