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Well it all depends on how open minded he is. Some easy ways to tell if he is open minded is asking your self, "Is her serious most of the time or does he joke around a lot?" If he's serious most of the time that often he takes life in general pretty seriously but that's a simple question you can ask yourself and it usually is in the ball park. They are also very, VERY controlling culture when it comes to their wives and by the sounds of it, sounds like you're living with him already I assume? Probably relatively quickly after beginning the relationship. Chances are within five to six months will be the earliest, he'll propose a year at the latest, they don't normally date for fun they date because they can see themselves being married to them. Depending on if he is a dominant guy and how dominant he is will also depend on if he "allows" you to leave and go do things when he's not home/working etc. But that's normal to their culture he more than likely allow it but the manners and politeness to them is often shown by asking permission since women don't have a whole lot of rights because keep in mind Muslim wives whether you convert to it before or after you get married is something you two will need to talk about together and if he's leaning more towards close minded he will definitely have you convert. He was more than likely raised in Lebanon and not here in America so Muslim wives typically need to ask for permission to leave the house out of respect here in America but out of law back in their homeland. Also if he chose to come to a specific state other than because of family could also help determine how open minded he is if he's into politics. More conservative voting states will incline him to act more conservative because like all humans we adapt to our environment within reason to our own beliefs and morals. I know here in America it's normally ok to court with more than one person at a time if you take it at a normal pace but they all typically move very fast over there, same as here though I suppose. The guys who end up saying I love you very quickly can see themselves marrying you and for someone like myself, only the right girl got me to do get my shit in order. Soul mate's encourage and motivate each other to do what is in their best interest even if it means parting ways with them forever. But Muslims are a lot like Catholics, there are always exceptions and some do get divorced but if he's already saying I love you and you do get married
First of all you need to be open minded and understand that there will be a huge cultural difference whether he's more westernized or not. Also typically Muslim people are recommended to marry other Muslims so if you're serious then talk to him about your future and how your religious differences will play out. If it's not serious relationship which it doesn't sound like it is then it's not a big deal just be chill. I'm a Muslim man myself and my woman is Muslim because it's important to me and we both have the same values and are compatible in every sense. At the end of the day you need to make sure this is really what you want as it won't be easy for either of you to adjust especially when it comes to meeting the family (this goes both ways - I doubt your family would be excited to meet your Muslim man because let's face it western society believes in the stereotypes that we are bad and just look at the responses to this question to prove my point further) anyways just have a talk with him and establish your boundaries early on and what you both want from this relationship.
Just because he is drinking or having sex now, does not mean that he will put you or anything else before his religion and family. I've dated even lived with a muslim.
I also have muslim friends and have heard the things they do and say about the non muslim girl they are "dating." To him you are just a sex object to keep him company. Nothing more nothing less. They will refer to you as "the slut" or "the whore" to their friends.
As soon as he is ready to get married and be serious you will be thrown away as if nothing ever happened. Doesn't matter if you were with him 1 year or 10. Doesn't matter if you lived together, what he said to you that you wanted to hear, etc. No matter what you do, you will never be a woman of his heritage and he would never actually marry you bc his family will never accept you.
He will act "head over heels," so in love," and tell you everything you would want a man to say, but it means nothing. They are taught that women are different and they learn what to say to make women feel good. That makes it that much worse the day he throws you away to marry another muslim when you thought "he loved you so much."
No amount of love will get him to marry and introduce you to his family. No amount of love will ever come before his religion. The lies will sound so true and sweet, but they are simply lies.
Run away. Run far away. Just google what happened to other women if you don't believe me. I personally know two women who even made it as far as marriage thinking they were "so in love and happy," only for them to wake up with divorce papers and see their husband immediately with a new wife. One that their family and religion will accept. No one can crush your heart more bc they lie and tell you what you want to hear so well
Ya i noticed that too. And that isn't just making it up
Its straight from muslim guy friends. White girls are sluts and everyone else too. Black girls are dirt to them
Islam teaches that only a muslim is your true brother and sister - i think this ideology has a lot to do with it - also family prefers to keep the lineage muslim. Thats also a big one why family pressure is massive to marry a muslim women
Also they then prefer her to be untouched and all that nonsense lol
All comes from muslim guy friends --> so its straight from the source
@TripleAce This is all true.
@Ephemera1 These days being a true muslim is lost dark... there isn't many true true muslims...
With that said, a relatively average muslim guy will just follow the basic stuff - like not eating pork or non halal meat, he will do Ramadan... and maybe prey once in a while
That's about it
he will have sex and drink for the most part because he is a modern muslim (not hardcore)- JUST he will most likely marry a muslim women that is a virgin
@Epherma1 im sorry, but you clearly don't have the experience or knowledge to debate on this topic. Typical western player behavior is VERY different than the behavior in which I am describing. "Players" typically play the field and to get as many girls as they can jungle. There will almost always be warning signs in that situation. Muslim men can easily be with just the one partner and seem very serious, honest, and romantic until the time comes to settle down with their religion and marriage. They are very different scenarios and relationships. A relationship with a muslim is far different than a relationship with a non muslim. I've witnessed this first hand. Their religion comes first period. Then their family and what they think. A non muslim woman will never be make it on that list. It can happen, but it is very rare. Too slim of a chance to waste time trying
@swtmelody :_
>no experience or knowledge
>Muslim, lived around Muslims, family of Muslims, been to Muslim countries, lived in muslim countries, lived in the Western world, westernized Muslim.
I'm sorry but you're delusional if you think your one experience comes close to mine. You're misinformed and undereducated, which is why you have such opinions.
Listen if your not looking to follow God, then don't claim you're a Christian it gives the rest of us a bad name. He's going to want to have sex with you before marriage, and possibly might be forced to make you convert if marriage. That is what happened to a close friend of mine and she went through hell with him. You do NOT want to get involved with a non-practicing Muslim. Because intentions from what YOU are looking for is far more important than what he is looking for. Because that is how she ended up in that trap in the first place. You need to have a solid foundation in God. It's is imparitive. Know your Bible. Know what God commands for us to live in our lives. He should not be having sex before marriage. But many non-practicing Muslims sleeps around. But expects a virgin wife, or they are forced to an arranged marriage to a Muslim woman from the counrty their families come from. And yes, she is expected to be a virgin. Some of them have a twisted thinking that Western women are good for sex and are whores only, while Muslime women are expected to be pure. Don't know why you aren't focused on the Lord, but if you have no desire to be Christian, just be honest and don't pretend. But if your backsliding, you better get back to God. Or else you will face a lot of wishy-washy answers, and those sweet nothings being told in your ear, you know like a lot of men do today to get you open for sex and desire them. And that's what you will deal with. But somebody who is like him, non Practicing, not a virgin and drinks is extremely risky, just like those professing Christian and does every single secular things are risky. Because not only are they not focusing or showing care for their salvation, but their also putting your salvation at risk. It's not worth it.
I can't simply answer this question like that. You have to tell me how he thinks, how his family is, how he acts etc.
There are many things that can come into play, and they all can lead to different things.
Islam allows men to marry Jewish and Christian women AND NO he isn't supposed to force you to convert to islam. BUT this is the islamic theory of course. I don't know how it will turn into practise, because many Muslims violate the principles of islam, including the ones who will force their wife to convert.
Personnally, I have a few family members married to non Muslims. My uncle has been married to a french woman for more than 15 years and she is not Muslim and he never forced her to convert.
My Dad's cousin has been married to a french woman for 40+ years and she isn't Muslim either (but her, who are now over 25 kids are).
I personnaly have never ever come across families that forced the non Muslim woman to convert. I come from a conservative Muslim family, but my family is educated and not poor. So I think those factors are very important to determine how your Muslim boyfriend will turn out.
Just one important notice: Don't give him sex easily, pleaaaase. Some Muslim men in the west sleep around with white women because they are easier to smash than Muslim women, but then they leave them for a Muslim woman when it comes to marriage. Of course, this is not systematic at all, but there are many fuckboys around so be careful.
I would even advice you to delay sex as much as possible to be sure. Don't be easy.
well, i dont think its common for the muslim family to convert the non muslim partner to convert. however, i have seen the muslim family have a big dislike for the partner and even exacrating their own family member. but even if they dont exacrate them, they may still hate the partner and may physically hurt them. Though these are probably from the more traditionalist Muslims, there are probably more relaxed ones out there
I agree with you
Yep, lot more eggshells to look out for. Almost like it's not worth the trouble. But then again, being a man, I tend to use that hunter instinct and think more long term. Women are different, I suppose.
Well. I am Muslim myself, I dated Arab Muslim guys and western guys I have a question, WHERE IS HE FROM? that makes a huge difference, because it is not only the religion that is restricted, it is their way of thinking and calculating things culturally depending on where do they come from? if he is an Arab that would make a big difference than maybe anything else.
My Muslim Arab brother is married to a Russian girl, and I can tell you, he was honest with her, loved her, and married her, BUT, he just changed her, she can't smoke on the street, talk to other men, go out alone, no more clubs, she really loves him, and he does her, but you will need to adapt to his cultural boundaries IN HIS HEAD not even only being at his home country..
In the Arab world, the man has the authority and the power, and he will make that clear just when things start to get serious, they dont like being yelled at, or even argued a lot, because THEIR women from their own cultural do not do that because they are used to the male dominated kind of culture (Even me) ,, so from my experience, many non Arab women can not translate or get that.
Take what I said in consideration, I know better, I am Arab Muslim, and I am more reliable on that!
Yes exactly what I was saying. If he was born here he's not going to have a problem where as he would have a problem with you going out alone or without him or a man to accompany you if he were born in Lebanon, but like I said they always get married very fast compared to the standards here. So you said things have been moving very fast all you need to do is confront him and tell him how you feel ahead of time before he gets embarrassed for proposing and you not feeling ready because it could also cause him to think you didn't want to hurt his feelings by just flat out saying no.
@abarker the reason Arab people marry much faster, sometimes within a year or maximum two years is because their society bans sex outside marriage, and people suffer (Mostly women) if they practicded that before getting marriage, and most of the time she will deprive the guy she loves from sleeping with her, because she is HELLA scared, that they won't get married at the end, and that she will have to pay a big price (being offended, neglected, punished) in her life if something happened and you split up.. I totally understand that because i am in the same situation, so most of the time, the couple just find much more easier and safer to get married and THEN if things didn't work, they can get divorced... it is like the other way around than the western countries,, but trust me, we dont like it, it is where we were born and what our culture has given us :(
I think you expressed things better than I ever could.
True. Arab muslims are the strictist. What is universal among muslims though is that you MUST raise the kids muslims. Even if he is a very westernized muslim that grew up in the States, that is the one thing they will not compromise on. After all, islam must dominate. So if a girl has concerns on that front, better avoid.
And if the muslim says that she can raise the kids in her religion, don't believe it for a second.
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I was the boyfriend of a non-practicing Muslim woman, so the situation is different (I also know several families where a Western non-Muslim married a Muslim), but I would say that you should expect that either he or his family may want you to convert to Islam. I've seen this even where the Muslim did not practice their religion, or ony superficially.
Is he mostly non praticing? you said he drinks.
Does he pray 3 times a day.. and does he eat pork?
Moslem prays 5 times a day
We pray 5 times, Fajr- dawn prayer, Dhur-noon prayer, Asr-afternoon prayer, Maghrib-sunset prayer, and Isha-the night prayer
I was in a relationship with a muslim. You need to know a few things.
Islam places a huge emphasis on getting married. Not marriage per se, but being married, as the goal of islam is growth and getting married is the only acceptable route for kids. So it's not uncommon that they would rush a relationship so they can get married and grow the umma.
Many muslim men will date a western woman for the sexual experience, only to ditch her and marry a virgin muslim girl from back home. That wasn't the case with my relationship, but it's not uncommon. So be aware.
There is a common pattern with most muslim man/western woman relationships and it is thus. In the beginning they are very charming and appear lenient. Then as a the relationship gets serious they'll become more conservative and they will gradually expect that she adhere to islamic customs, such as not eating pork or dressing more conservatively. My ex for instance, insisted after 3 years of being together, that I stop wearing short sleeve shirts!
Lucky for me, my ex showed his cards early, as a lot of these muslim guys don't show their islamic side until after you get married or even worse, after you have children. That isn't to say they can't be genuinely sweet. But when in a bind, they will always follow their religion first.
Due to the islamic views on women, there is no such thing as compromise. It's his way or the highway. I believe this is a big reason why a lot of times, these muslim guys won't show their islamic side until after marriage, when they hold all the power.
So if you ever find yourself losing your soul just so you won't disrespect him or his religion, just let go. The fact that you believe it's moving too fast is a sign. Always listen to your gut.
Okay listen to me love. What Im going to say could be important, or it could be very against your opinions and what you were looking for, so if thats the case, feel free to throw away what Im about to say. Its ultimately your life and as an adult, you hold the choices and decisions to make to shape up yourself.
I am an arab girl who lives in the US. I have both cultures embedded in me, and I have seen both cultures.
Muslim men - of all types (the ones who follow religion, the ones who dont, the ones who do sometimes and other times forgets it) are culturally bound. They were brought up with it (more likely than not) in their households, even in countries abroad. a lot of arab men are very good at romanticizing a woman and show her how much of a gentleman he can be. This can be very deceptive though.
They are allowed to marry 4 times, so the chances of being cheated on significantly increases, and you can't say anything about it. Arab men like to be dominant... and no this is not a generalization for a few... it is the stigma and culture we are brought up with. Men, are dominant in everything, and what they say goes. If you happen to have found one who lets you make decisions and lets you be free, then you may have found a good guy. But you need to be careful when it comes to arab men, love. Not all of them are honest. And this goes for any religion or race, but I just want to stress that you have to be a bit careful about what his true intentions are. Asking won't lead you anywhere. He can lie, and act, and be deceptive. So you have to pay attention to his actions.
As for how for how to not offend him... dont bring up religion... no matter what. It will make him go into defensive mode if you bring up christianity. Respect his views about his religion. Dont insult his views.
I am a christian arab by the way.
Well said in deed.. but why go through all of this trouble.. dumb the guy
@Arabian911 I agree. Its too much risk for trouble... but still... we dont know the guy and can't tell her to dump him while we dont know him. You know? But what you said in your post is true. Arab men tend to hook up with western women for the sex, not the companionship.
because he's more than likely living on the east coast owns a convienience store as in his mid to lates 30's. I can almost guarantee he has a lot of brothers who I'm sure have been married since early or mid twenties and they are all Lebanese or Arab and definitely of Muslim faith. The fact that she is white will have to make him try and get to her to choose to convert because like one girl was saying they do romance a lot in the beginning. And if he owns a conveience store in Ohio and you don't wanna put out for him say two or three weeks one particular month a lot of them around here pay for prostitutes if there marriage isn't working or if their wife isn't putting out. Even he works out and has muscles and is bigger to chances are that makes him look like even more of a failure to his family and he feels like one because he isn't married yet. To me sounds like a rush job and might be a stipulation by his father to get married in order to run the business and start making more money
she deserves to be happy god knows she must have had shitty boyfriends who beat her or something because if she was willing to move this fast with a guy she doesn't know anything about the culture that is extremely dangerous. I hope you knew him a while before moving in with him even if it was just as friends. But seriously listen to these extremely carefully, one way you can tell he either wants to be strong and be able to handle himself and also give his wife a rough slap if she does or says anything he doesn't like it won't leave a mark really so no evidence of abuse but like the others said they usually just trying to hook up with white women because they are easy. Americans are one of the top that have sex the soonest out of any other culture or country. So him being married to you is a quick solution or he wants kids. But if he is tall or muscular and you have been dating him for three months or less tell him TODAY you aren't ready for marriage until...
If you have your own car I suggest you move in with a friend or hell even mom or Dad temporarily. I had to watch a very close friend of mine marry a Lebanese guy who was born over there and came here. He worked out everyday and was muscular as hell. But he's also very lonely I'm sure, they always move fast but not with white women, white women are considered disgraces to be with to some families because they are consider loose, immoral women. And he might smoke and drink but honestly that happened to my friend, took her out to dinner 3 nights a week, even cooked for her, rolled blunts did the occassional bag of coke with her when they were drinking. She ended up in an abusive relationship with him for five years until he found out she had cheated on him with her ex. Beat her up so good he wasn't thinking to hide where he hit her. The only reason he didn't kill her she told me was because her ex told him and was selfish and didn't think about if she was even happy with him
Well ask him, he is the one who is interested in you. According to islam a muslim can marry any one "of the book" i. e. Christian, jew, or mulsim without issue. However it depends on what kind of muslim he is and where he is from, if he is Turkish they tend to be more lax then in the middle east (I know a Turkish muslim and he was much the same way he drinks and he did not wait for marriage to have sex) so that will also determine what he is more likely to believe. But its best to ask him find out what he wants what he expects from the relationship etc. also let him know that you want to take things slow as their are cultural religious differences and you don't want to do something wrong and you don't want to feel pressured into things etc. (but let him know your interested and willing to try if he is willing to let you go at your own pace). The fact is him being muslim isn't really that big of a deal, its more culture, how long has he been here (the longer he has been in the west the more likely he will have taken on some of its culture and practices) and him personally (not all muslims are alike obviously) so its something you should sit down and discuss with him, communication is the foundation of a strong relationship after all so why not start with that.
Hi. I suggest you find out which branch of the Muslim religion he follows and then go online and do some research. I've learned that the Muslim religion is very male-centric. Is he Eastern or Western Muslim? That may impact how he treats women. I haven't heard many good things about that. Also you may want to do a Google search on him. I'm not saying that because he is Muslim, I Google every woman I get involved with, it will give you some idea of his past.
And buy yourself a copy of the Quran. If you decide that this is the person you want to be with your going to have to learn to read, write, and speak in the language of the Quran. As well as convert to his religion. If he is as committed to his beliefs as you say, your life is going to change. For now you probably should just be yourself. That seems to be the person he likes, so don't change it. That is my nice advise.
Deep in my heart my advice for what you should now about dating a Muslim guy is DON'T. Go online and see what other ladies experiences have been.
Well, i used to have a boyfriend that muslim and i think its kinda hard for us to be together. His family didn't really like me because im christian and i didn't want to change my religion if i get married with him. And im kinda wear clothes that "short and open" for their taste. But i think its actually not really open when im just wearing a casual shorts. So I don't know, maybe he's different. But my ex boyfriend was nice but kinda strict. And his parents more strict and kinda pressure our relationship thats why we broke up
I am a Muslim, the comments and the question itself is disrespectful. Why do you even care about his religion when he is a non practising muslim? He drinks and isn't a virgin, his religion has nothing to do here any guy who drinks and sleeps around must be a heads up to you that's common sense. There's no real difference in him and any other guy out there, make your choice by judging his personality not his religion like you would do before getting into a relationship with any other guy from any race religion. Even if he shocks or surprises you it is a request not to blame his religion but him and his alcohol and your choice of getting in a relationship with someone who is a more non Muslim because muslims aren't into alcohol and would never disrepect a woman. Good luck:)
It's like saying lets say someone is a pedophile and christianity is the reason behind it. Doesn't make sense at all and yes a true follower of christianity would never be a pedohphile and that's the same a true follower of Islam would never disrespect a woman.
Muslims "would never disrespect a woman".
Perhaps you have been living on another planet for most of your life.
See:
Lara Logan fist raped in the centre of Cairo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF4VG5Dh-sg
Swedish police cannot cope with the number of rape cases since Muslims were allowed to enter Sweden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8EwVnQZTlE
Where I live most of the christians are pedophiles sorry but that's true but I don't blame the religion for it and perhaps you're from a shallow planet to think a religion teaches rape or murders. Stats say 2.6% of Christians are pedophiles and 1.3 % of Muslims are terrorists and 3.8% Hindus are rapists. Going by that it's perfectly fine to claim all the christians pedophiles, al the hindus rapists, all the muslims terrorists and people who disrespect women. That's your intellectual logic, see.
https://youtu.be/HjRI2AsF3h0 watch this
Former Arab Muslim talks about paedophilia and child marriage in islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LE3QARjIZg
The child brides of Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_19_xIYEmI
She was 19 and not 6 when he married her Watch this
https://youtu.be/eT-Rh1auG0A
We could keep going on this, the point is no religion teaches evil, the individual must be blamed for his deeds not his religion. Like in this case the guy is a non practising Muslim so no point in bashing his religion.
Be wary of this Fast Acting, Fast Talker, He probably Wants... Marriage. They will also tell you their own
Kind of girl" is Not for them.
A Muslim Man had Once Found me on Facebook and the Next thing you know, This "Practicing Christian" was Off and Running to Cairo, Where on my next Trip, We tied the Knot at the Ministry of Justice. I resided there for Awhile, but I seldom did Smile. A lot to Endure for Sure in their own Family Here, dear.
Think Twice about being so Nice, Eventually Controlling.
PS: When any problems, That is when they throw it up to You "You American girls are not Like the ones here."
Arse backwards.
Good Luck. xx
A lot of idiots on here giving their little racist Fox News agenda on Muslims and these posters/commentators portray themselves as God's gift... Oh wait, I forgot, those posters/commentators bashing Muslims don't even believe in God, they assume they have this infinite will to live like some sort of Marvel Avenger lmao.
Listen take it from me, a guy who is Muslim. If he loves you and cares about you he will make things work. This is 2017, not 1977, old traditions don't always work. I told my parents openly that while I follow Islam, I don't mind marrying a Christian or Catholic girl and raising my kids properly. I have dated Muslim girls who were bitches (I know there are great Muslim girls out there), maybe I've had bad luck but I'm giving you my input. But you guys have to talk about your religious views and see if that will clash or not.
I'm muting this post because I know when the word Muslim or Islam comes out dirty disgusting cockroaches as known as trolls or racists enjoy giving their grade 3 level input on religion.
@TripleAce that’s why I said talk it over. No I wouldn’t marry a Buddhist, it’s either Muslim or Christian or catholic for me.
Ya thats ok
But thats also going with your religion
If you love her and she's not one of those allowed religions for males. You'd leave her? I don't really get that though? Lol
Do you really believe god doesn't want you to be in love and marry her just cause she isn't one of those 3 ?
I will vote against it cuz
1) First your parents are not going to allow it
2) You clearly not respect his religion or believes in him
3) You may marry him but someday, something is going to pop up and you are going to fight over it like the "Kids religion".
4) You don't believe in him or his religion, so dump him and let him find a good girl.
5) If he can't have problem with your religion then you should return the favour but I know, what you are doing here so byeee.
6) If you are thinking about anything serious then, He will judge you and will try to make you stay cuz He will be family oriented.
7) That being said, I am personally asked out may times but local girls but I always say "NO" cuz I don't want my life to be chaos, but She won't waste any sec calling me racist... not pure enough like stuff you read here and it shows her mentality before asking me out. I thank GoD it saved me from her.
There really isn't enough information to tell you about what to expect. I'm Muslim, and I know a lot of western non-practicing Muslims. Based on what you're saying, that guy is not an observant Muslim, and may identify as one because his parents are. My question is, does he pray at least 5 times a day? What about fasting during Ramadan, or in Mondays and Thursdays?
What's more important is not just religious compatibility, but cultural compatibility. Even among Muslims, people of varying levels of adherence would never date/marry each other.
Okay well first of all am a Muslim and Arabian , in my opinion dating a Muslim, Christian, atheist whatever his respective belief is the same dear if you feel uncomfortable about the pace things are going between you then say so!!! I admire that you are considerate of your partner feeling and his faith and religion but don't forget yourself and how you feel so be a bit selfish would yea dear tell him what you want how you feel. after all, every good relationship "in my opinion " is always based on good communication and understanding , I for myself wouldn't like my girl to always perform things she ain't comfortable with for my sake.
Muslim here that is exactly like your guy. I also drink and have sex. Lets call this kind of muslims "Modern muslims".
The only thing you should pay attention to is food then: Simply dont go to a restaurant with him where ONLY pork or bacon is served (if that even exists). Also dont serve him food at home that has pork or bacon in it. And never lie about not bacon being in there. IF it happened that he ate pork, he will feel bad or annoyed. You can calm him down by saying "but isn't it fine for god if you didn't know? I heard he will count it as if didn't happen. Ask a chaich (muslim priest) if you dont believe me."
Other than that, if he IS a modern muslim, there is nothing else you should be paying attention to.
There are no modern muslims... lol I know your types.
Don't be hypocrite !!! LOL
im friends with a girls whos dad is muslim and mother is christian. from what i see of the relationship, even if the dad married a christian, he still in a way against it, forcing islam on his daughter, to the point of cutting of people who might teach her christianity and even forcibly taking any gift/object that's related to it. (bibles, purity rings, etc) For all i know, he doesn't beat up his wife or kid, though he is very controlling. And he also plans to get his daughter into an arranged marriage, even if his wife says no. everyones different, just be weary of this guy
Downvotes because they don't like hearing a real story, I guess.
It's not valid, if it doesn't suit the feelings. All you need is love! ALL YOU NEED IS LOOOVE!
You need more than love. You need some fucking understanding. Sorry, just saying.
If he doesn't practice his religion then he's pretty much like any other guy, but keep in mind that his parents may be more strict depending on how religious they are themselves.
Also make sure to respect his beliefs/religion and don't make fun of them/disrespect them. Which is what u should do with pretty much any person with different beliefs than yours.
A big factor can also be the place where he comes from and whether he's lived (or studied) in a western country and the amount of time he's spent there. Cuz Muslims that have been in a western country can be more open minded and have a different lifestyle and way of thinking than Muslims who have spent all their lives in an Arab country. *assuming he's from an Arab country*
Another thing is be prepared for a huge cultural difference
There are traditions and values that are to be met in the Arab and Muslim culture and those are not too strict on western women but if he's more of a traditional person then be prepared for it
And by the way.. him not being a virgin as a Muslim guy,, it's a red flag
Read the Qur'an in full and (if the guy is practicing), you'll know for sure.
Read 3 chapters/day and you'll finish the entire thing in 3 months, if I memory serves me correctly.
Otherwise, you'll rely on people who don't like Islam who dissuade with the best of their knowledge (plus things that may not be true, due to honest lack of knowledge, misunderstandings, or pure lies from Islamophobia). Or you'll be swayed by Muslims who understandably will want to put their faith in a good light (maybe even to the point of تقیة '"taqiyyah", essentially lying to non-believers) or you may fall to one trying to convert you into their fold. Both sides will only tell you what is convenient to them, all under the constraint of what they know, what they think they know, and personal interpretation.
So, it's best to find out for yourself, get info from both sides to see a fuller picture, but still take both sides' words with a grain of salt.
As a muslim girl i will give you my take on it. A muslim dating probably won't make it public and keep it a secret for as long as they can. So there may not be couple pictures of you two posted online on like instagram or facebook. A muslim will also not introduce you to their family especially if you are not a muslim. Also might not introduce you to their friends, maybe only very close friends. If a muslim gets caught dating by their parents they will be forced to break up. Its not that he does not love you its just that there are certain religious reasons. This applies to both muslim guys and girls
If u feel things are going too fast and not to your liking... and with him being Muslim there might come a day when u are totally emotionally involved but he "suddenly" realizes that u aren't a Muslim and he can only get serious about a Muslim woman... And he MAY dump you or worse, ask u to convert.
Cz it doesn't really depend on what sort of a person he is but what his family is like.
U may want to make sure of these things before u get too involved.
And make sure you respect his faith, irrespective of how "modern" he is Cz he might wanna be more disciplined in future and it might seem like a deal breaker for u.
So bottom line, if u do end up dating make sure the respect is mutual.
Good luck!
Found myself in the same situation. I have a blood related aunt who married an Indonesian Muslim man and some of my cousins are also following the faith after my aunt willingly converted from being a Catholic whilst some converted to become a Catholic. I've come to understand that if no problems have arised, you shouldn't be worrying about them. When the time comes, I know that the guy I'm currently dating and I will deal with the issue. I've already made it known to him that I'm catholic thinking that he wouldn't want to continue the relationship but it hasn't changed anything between us. I get that I'm still young and he's two years older than me but I feel as if I'm ready to begin my first "nearly there relationship" with this guy who has a different faith from me.
Depends on "mislim from where" i guess, Bangladesh and Indian ones tend to be a bit more open aas opposed to Pakistani Muslims, If rased in any other more western country than its basically normal, They do tend to get more emotional though, i guess if you're serious, then only issue might be parents as most muslim parents prefer to not let their son marry out of their religion and might not accept you at first. other than that, you'd know him better. Being from a mostly muslim based country, I'm open to answer any other questions you may have.
@reddysai2 done
i wouldn't go through with it if i were u. there are a lot of good muslim people so thats not the issue, however there will be a big cultural gap especially since u dont practice religion. if u love him and want to take a chance u need yo pay attention to his behavior and look for signs u usually dont see when ur in a new love adventure, or u usually disregard until it is too late. whats his view on multiple wives, women having to wear a veil, pork, sexuality. will he always approve that u r christian or agnostic or so, is he open minded to these topics? will he respect ur privacy, thoughts and beleifs? if u see negative signs or simply signs that show u both are very different when it comes to sensitive topics, leave or ull be forced to live a life that is simply not for u.
He's not Muslim, God punished alcohol, In Islam alcohol is forbidden and sex before marriage is too! He might be a hypocrite as well. There are some people who call their self Muslims do things that would make people think bad of us. I hate that people would believe the news that we "blow up stuff" and I have a bomb in my hijab, no its not a bomb, its my hair. Yes, we have hair and in fact I see lots of my other muslim friends who wear Hijab and when they take it off our hair is so nice and long. Its not ugly thats not why we cover it...
That’s an A class conspiracy theory... you know it and i know it, the guy is just looking for sex and a girlfriend experience
Pink1996 he might not be muslim, but Arab. She might've mistaken Islam and Arabic
@Arabian911 we don't know what he's looking for or whats in his heart, how can we know that from getting only 3 sentences from OP. Imagine if someone just assumed that about you, that you're only looking for sex and experience.
pretty sure OP knows that he is muslim from where she states "He's Muslim but he drinks/isn't a virgin, though he seems very serious about everything else." She clearly knows that drinking and sex is forbidden in islam. She also never mentioned being arab once. So this person could be muslim and not arab.
Actually i wouldn’t even care.. my answers are based on the informations in the question.. i don’t know whether they are true or false, i don’t have supernatural abilities to know the truth or the reality of the situation.
And you really need to take it easy a little bit.. the whole stereotyping of Muslims is getting too much... and i don’t like the victim role. Act as a normal human being why does any muslim feel unique or untitled to a special treatment in any foreign society, it’s just pathetic.
You don’t need to defend the muslim society whenever some one mentions islam.
By the way a lot of Muslims drink alcohol and have sex before marriage.. it’s there but you don’t wanna see it.. people everywhere claims to be a god fearing human being but in fact they are in an active denial.. am not just talking about Muslims.. it’s in every one of us.. muslim, christian or even an Atheist.. accept these facts and believe me you will enjoy your life within the reasonable limits
@Arabian911 i'm aware that there are some Muslims that drink alcohol and have sex before marriage. That doesn't mean they aren't Muslim, and you can't assume that they are only looking for sex and experience. I'm not defending anybody, but i do think you're being presumptuous and judgmental.
Dear i didn’t say some.. i said a lot I’ve been there and saw it in everyday activities... guys mostly speak about sex and alcohol.. Muslims are not special and we need as arabs to accept this fact
I am an ex muslim and dated a few muslim guys! All I can say is that take your time to get to know him and see if you both can connect over things on any level at all or not It may seem like he's head over hills in love with you but some of them actually have things hidden frm you so that's why they rush into things to lock you down! Just 3 weeks ago I had a guy clinging to me and he was a muslim he was just too nice to me, showering me with gifts and chocolate on first tome seeing me and later it turned out he had serious issues with his stay permit in the Uk, didn't have a proper job, was dealing drugs as a living and then to top it off he made up some bullshit story about not having a proper passport or any kind of legal paper work just to give him the basic rights in the UK as an individual, My trick was to question him about it in different ways and he used to get pissed off and finally he blurted everything out lol! BE CAREFULHe may as well be doing that cuz he wants to get laid!
watch the movie not without my daughter. it's about a woman who is in very happy with a Muslim man in America but when they go back to the middle east to visit his family he falls into abusive and controlling behavior. I'm not saying don't be with him but be careful about which parts of his life you step into. You can get away from abuse here but you can't if you're over there. Definitely, try to check it out.
Avoid. He will be cute in the beginning but then he will try to control you and if you get baby's (sons in special) he will not accept other things that they go to Muslim school 🚸 they have to be religious etc. Dangerous world. Avoid. 😊
Many people would maybe say that I'm pregudist but I have talked to Muslims "off camera" (when nobody is listening) and they tell you the fanatic truth about things. Would be to long to explain in detail.
Oh shut the fuck up you lying sack of crap.
I didn't said those things they did
Thank you. 😊 I'm. Not here to lie... Would never say things that aren't true does not make sense write 📝 in a forum if you lie
I've met two muslim guys while on vacation. They drank and smoked cigarettes. One of them showed me a picture of his mum in hijab. They are family oriented and in the end, marry their own kind. Also, they only marry virgins. At least 99 percent of them.
So if you're sleeping with them, forget it. They will be nice and romantic but they don't love women who don't wait until marriage. They emphasized that to me. One of them told me he was in relationship but broke up and lived with that girl. HE didn't take her seriously.
I told one of the guys that I was waiting for marriage and the whole time they were very respectful to me and kept their boundaries. So i can assure you, they hunt for easy prey but in the end they marry of their own race, the good girl from back home who's never known a man. I hope this helps
According to the Muslim faith he's already disrespected himself by being with a white woman. Furthermore I hope you like having zero freedom and be prepared for abuse. Little spoken about it but its done often. Especially in Sharia households its even more prevalent. But hey I'm just a guy online who grew up around and witnessed the craziness that can happen in a Muslim home. Seen a woman get slapped for talking too long. So in summation, think very hard about your decision but ultimately do what makes you feel best.
She probably brought it on with what she was wearing
Dead serious about that FMan lol
Be prepared to slowly lose your personal rights as the relationship evolves:
•begin wearing a hijab and covering up
•not having contact with other men, including family and friends
•receiving permission from him before doing anything
•be prepared to convert to Islam if you want to end up with him (even though he may deny this)
•he's likely to engage in new relationships with women once yours has been cemented.
•if you've never been hit by a man before, that may change in the near future.
I have many male friends who left Islam (despite being born into it) and would agree with my statements above.
Loved it. 😂😂
I'm a Muslim. If he is not a practicing muslim, his family might be and would want you to convert to Islam.
Look Muslims are not bad people. Like the lady said below that if some people of the religion do bad that doesn't mean that everyone of that religion is bad. It depends on the individual.
I know men who have married American women. Those women converted to Islam and the marriage is successful. They are more than happy. Some people said over here that the Muslims have multiple wives. In our religion we can at maximum keep 4 wives. But you know that nobody follows religion in a literal sense or in the exact way as Lao done. People who I told you about have only one wife. So depends individual.
1. Might just be in it do sex you up. Lots of muslim guys go for non muslim girls to bang but marry muslim girls at the end. And it shows since you're moving too fast lol
Ya right he's really in it. Don't buy it
2. His religion over you. Always
3. can't eat at normal places. Always muslim inspired places cause it has to be halal meat lol
4. He might as you to convert
5. If he follows it. Then he must feel he is worth more than you
6. His family might reject you
Good luck lol
These men can be highly manipulative of western women. It's happened quite often where the woman ends up in quasi slavery under her man, not being allowed to leave the house without him and not being allowed to choose her own clothing. They can be heartless, emotionally manipulative bastards and it wouldn't be a seldom case of this happening. If I were you, the fact it's moving so fast should set off alarm bells for you.
Muslims are very conservative, almost 95 percent. Maybe they would pretend to be not, but in the inside they are. I am a Muslim and I hate my religion. Nobody practises the original religion. Everything is so distorted. I rarely can get peace. They literally treat women as servant and slaves. I have seen my mom working like a pig and nobody gives a shit about that. Can't speak about her to dad many times cause he is hella conservative.
And if he asks you to convert to ISLAM, DONT DO IT. THEY WILL TRY TO MANIPULATE INTO BELIEVING SHIT. TRUST ME. IT HAPPENED TO MY MOM. MY MOM WAS A CHRISTIAN TOO.
Why should you convert if you had to, for someone and not practise your religion?
I hate religion to be honest, why should something divide people like that. We are born to live freely and peaceful. We are all the kids of the supreme. We are unique.
wtf man XD I dont know where you live, but I live in germany and have a christian mom and a muslim dad and she didn't convert yet and Im 23. I dont think after 23 years that she will be converting at the age of 55. He had ramadan and Christmas at our home and everything was fine.
Lol, nice try to behave like someone else idiot man..
@AlphaGhost wtf... simply wtf..
@dizmuhjam He tried very hard but forget to "put some" Muslim attitude in his post and no one will ever force a Christan wife to convert cuz its allowed in Islam and there are numerous examples of it.
@AlphaGhost Yeah. My father always says "What you do and believe is between you and god. Nobody else can judge you, nobody else can force you."
@dizmuhjam I know and "truth to be told" force conversions are kind of Christan thing and their History is full of examples about it.
@AlphaGhost Lmao, christians don't do forced conversions any more. Is it still the 12th century? Is a crusader gonna come knocking on your door, like,
"Hello? Anybody there? Deus vuuuuult! Hello? Deus vult! All I want is a little deus vult, okay?"
@Nobodycares Well, shut up and after Crusade the Christianity is not spreading as a religion but Islam do spread to near 2 billion followers. Dude you forget about Spanish Inquistion, Portuguese Inquistion and their Inquistion in their American colonies is responsible for conversions in Europe and USA. I forget to mention the Red Indians force conversions too.
Please learn some History your religion is always like this and it only spreads by Force conversions like that of Vikings great Heathen army. British forced conversion in India. Can you name a single forced event like this with evidence NO
nobody is forcing anyone today but Still Islam spreads and Christians accept it.
@AlphaGhost Well, not in the 21st century.
Also, I'm not a christian.
I understand the inquisitions were terrible. It showed a major problem with catholicism, and any organized religion really. But as an atheist living in the 21st century, I feel that we should move above religion.
Christianity hasn't done much of anything extremely oppressive in the past 100 years (other religions, like fascism and communism took over on that end).
@Nobodycares I used to think like that but then I learned a life lesson,
"Never take anyone religion away from him cuz he will make you his religion" and history has proved it. I mean like new Sikhs religion in 15th century and free missionary.
@AlphaGhost I think it'd be better if people learn to examine their childhoods and behave like individuals. Then they'll be less prone to manipulation.
a lot of Muslims asnwers here hahaha. I'm one of them. For me see from what country he came from? We are Arab we can say and do a lot of flowery things if you like make fall inlove and things I've seen that a lot. You really need to know him so well before doing anything don't hurt youself if you are not sure but if you are sure about him go for it.
If you get in a serious relationship with him then you better hope he stays lukewarm about his religion because if he doesn't and becomes serious about his religion he might start to be controlling and demanding you to dress like a ninja in wheather of 90°
“Dress like a ninja” 😂😂
@Ephemera1 yea but nuns are a special case because they are very few of them and nothing in enforced upon a women wanting to be a nun... you generally don't see nuns just walking around the streets casually... they live and function in very specific areas...
I don't care for most religions but christianity doesn't enforce women to be nuns...
But many muslim families enforce coverage... not all but many
just some minor differences though
Theoretically muslim men can marry non-muslims. Practically he will either see you as a good lay or want you to convert. Many muslim men in the west bump&dump white girls behind closed doors. And if they are really willing to be serious, they will demand converting.
Your guy might or might not be that way. So it is best to actually bring this topic up before you invest yourself too much. Ask him what he wants, what he is planning and what he expects.
This is the best response I've seen too. Well said
Well I’m an Atheist and used to be a muslim 12 years ago.. the problem is not with him being a muslim it’s about his culture I’m from Jordan and Arab guys there look for an easy sex.. the won’t even dare to have sex with an Arab christian girl because her father would mostly shoot his ass... so they look for western girls and women... too much movies and porn gave them a lot of ideas..
And believe me in the end he won’t marry you.. so dumb the guy and have an easier life
Expect his family to be rude with you, try to be respectful with them like don’t show too much skin or drink or smoke, expect him to ask you to convert someday because it has a huge impact on your future family, expect him to get jealous around your male friends, he might become moody during ramadan because he will be fasting the whole day so don’t go eating in frint of him
This sounds very idiotic and so immature! In the first place, I don't believe he's a Muslem for what has unbelief and someone who believes in something have in common? If he believes in what he professes, there is no reason why he'd be dating someone who doesn't believe like him. It's like saying me, who is a Christian would be dating someone who isn't a Christian. Who are we kidding? What happens when you have kids? Please, save yourself from headaches and get with someone who's on the same path as you are. I think some of these posts are simple "thought provokerswas and aren't real. This is beyond me! Can't believe that someone would even contemplate something like this. No wonder, we have so much divorce!
Find out what his parents think of the relationship and what his views on your religion and what religion potential children will be before you become serious with him. That will help determine whether or not you should continue pursuing the relationship.
Yeah, there's definitely been stories in the media about muslim men being very assertive over what happens to their children, to the point that they'd even murder them. It was a really weird story that I read.
yle.fi/.../9928469 - This is a crazy story
he might cheat on you with a goat
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Well he drinks, Not a virgin, so there's a high possibility that he's not much religious. Since im a muslim, im gonna say, it depends on the guy actually, not every muslim guy is the same. but i think you won't have any problems with him, regarding to Islam or any thing like that
Invite him to Christian faith politely, Refer to "Seeking Allah Finding Jesus". You are only saved by Christ (may be you might not practice but its truth). Friendships & going out with Muslim are fine. I have been in your shoes as well. What faith your next generation would have?
I have faced the same questions which you do. (If I get married to a Muslim woman). I'm an ex muslim.
Sometimes I think I might be able to change her towards Christianity. I am not sure, because some muslims can be westernized but strict towards faith in Allah and Muhammad. I would also like to hear your opinion.
I'm a Muslim ok , but I really can't tell you about him , it's like asking Americans about your American boyfriend just because he's American
No one can really help you , you should see for yourself if he's a good person or not his religion means nothing tbh
like some of the suggestions don't go and ask him questions about way into the future. Tell him about Christianity and see how he reacts. learn something about his religion. yes he would want you to wear relogious clothes infront of his parents but not everyday like some comments.
watch "the big sick"-Kumail is a Pakistani comic who meets an American graduate student named Emily at one of his stand-up shows. As their relationship blossoms, he soon becomes worried about what his traditional Muslim parents will think of her. When Emily suddenly comes down with an illness that leaves her in a coma, Kumail finds himself developing a bond with her deeply concerned mother and father.(real life story) It will explain to you some of the issues you might face.
Your rights under Islam don't exist and you should also be aware that as a non Muslim you can be raped according to Islamic law. Your future kids will also likely be sold in a "marriage" to a much older man aka a paedophile.
Seriously how can you not know this?
it's not about Islam, remember muslims are an extremely diverse group of people. they might be black americans, they might be arab, they might be indonesians, they may be south Asian, or even perhaps Burmese (though not for long :'( )...
what's important is to know what kind of culture he comes from, and the relationship would be like in 5 years.
I had a friend who married a Muslim man. He convinced her to move to his home country. When she hated it there. He didn't care and started to treat her like shit. He divorced her and took the kids. She had to leave the country and has zero rights to see her kids.
So if you take your chances on this man, then make sure to never move to his country. You will have no rights.
Leave! Run! BREAK. UP! NO DON'T DO THIS TO YOURSELF! I'm a half jamaican-half Caucasian Catholic. And I've dated a few Muslim guys before, and trust me, the. Experience. Was. Bad. I can't handle them, my views are taken by granted, I'm given no right to go out alone or have an alone time. Just- nope. Don't. For your sake, don't.
Im half middle eastern half white, I prefer white guys bc the middle eastern muslim guys are usually, controlling, wanna move too fast (typical) which is never good in my opinion, extra sweet (just at first) and cheat... of course, it can never be 100% and you could be getting to know an amazing guy, but I am just telling you watch out because I speak about majority here.
honestly this is getting way too racist and I hate that shit. There is exceptions to everything and everyone. Just be open and honest about everything people dont have to lie just to keep others from getting hurt I am 100% positive he knows you don't know a lot about the culture so in which case simply just say this isn't meant to be offensive I'm sorry if it's phrased poorly if you think anything about what you are going to say could be considered upsetting or offensive. He obviously cares about you very much, guys seem to be sure of this feeling about love way before women are. It would make me sad being your ex considering things didn't play out the eay I wanted them to but they ended the way I knew they would before everything was all set up. Everyone deserves a chance and the fact that he's helped you out is a huge sign of endearment. I can tell already he is very much like me he just had the means to help and take care of you before the ex got his ducks in a row
I like him he seems like a good guy. All I'm saying is steer on the side of caution as you should with anyone you haven't known very long. Not to sound cocky but this is the best, honest and least opinion based answer you might get. So give the guy a chance he's going out on a limb helping you out but obviously you're very nervous about feelings being thrown around already so after work today sit down and come to some compromises. Men know women take much longer than men when figuring out whether they love someone or not. I on the other hand like your boyfriend knew the instant we laid eyes on you. You're a great girl and he seems like a great guy just come to some compromises that way you are both happy and no one is feeling pressured or uncomfortable. Straight forward and honest is the best way to approach a relationship. Lying to protect someone's feelings is ok if a tiny white lie like me telling you it's just a movie but was based on a true story so you could sleep at night
only use white lies if they can help, major lies could lead to distrust early in the relationship and causes guys to be very over protective very quickly and very defensive of their girl. So honest and truth straight through. You're THE most intelligent girl I've ever had the pleasure to know, you'll know how to word things, fuck you're hell of a writer so write it down first if need be. Good luck you two and I truly do wish you the best of luck and immeasurable amount of happiness =)
You are great judge of character little girl and if things turn out different than what either side wanted both of you just need to be honest and open with one another. It's all about communicating how both of you are feeling as clearly as possible. Taking things slow is always best for both parties, rushing could be bad for anyone. Sometimes it works out but most times in America it doesn't. You know a bad situation when you're in one so I don't think there's much to lose by taking it slow and hell if it even comes to marriage at some point which i pray and hope for you both that it does if that ends up being the thing you both want. I think what's most important is you gotta look out for yourself and he has to look out for himself and you, it's what the guys do. I think most men naturally are drawn to a dominant role in the relationship but some guys know better than the big decisions are usually made by the women or they aren't happy or you no longer have a girlfriend or get laid. lol
That you're going to encounter a lot of jerks trying to push their simple minded perspectives onto you, many of which claim also to be religious. Know that their opinions are nothing more than their lack of humanity. I think caring looking past religion for love, is a great example of humanity at its best. Furthermore, id say just prepare yourself for a few disagreements regarding your different faiths. Communication is key. Best of luck.
The first thing about a men is having values and stand to them. a men that recognise himself as a Muslim and who doesn't follow what he stands for isn't someone worth any trust. he is a Muslim. then no sex before marriage and no drinking. if he is it doesn't take him from being Muslim so at leat he should feel some shame. if he doesn't stay away from him
He will have to drop his believe or drop you one of it. And that us because he was born in it (his family literally forced him to believe in what they were forced to believe). Facts have come up to prove that all they believe are bunch of lies and devilish believes based on the Quran or Hadith. So you better save yourself the trouble.
What you should know.
1. Mating with him will be the extinction of your genetic line.
2. He will require you to convert. If, later, you renounce Islam the penalty specified in the Quran is death. Sharia will require him and/or his male relatives to kill you.
3. The Quran states that you are only.25 of a person and instructs him how and when to beat you.
4. A decade from now you will consider your relationship with him to be the most catastrophic mistake of your life.
Wow dude
@someonefromearth
The Muslim husband:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4rBlRpMZhE
Wife beating etiquette in Islam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue9KAm7kvzo
@someonefromearth
How to beat your wife, as seen on Saudi television:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpqUzeY2iXE
@someonefromearth
How women are treated under Shaira (Australian 60 Minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1og40C20lJI
This would not be the right place for advice with that. People know nothing about Muslims and act like they know everything. The media also acts like they know everything and try to make them look bad. Just be carful what you'e believing. Just wanted to warn you🙂 And if you want to know anything about them the best place to get info would be from a Muslim themselves
Ehh i dont know about that. Its not like they make up fictional people who caused the murders
@yourmad101338 Yeah but there's no proof they were actually Muslim. Even if they are it doesn't make all Muslims like that
Mmmm..
Just watch this movie:
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Hey it's the same thing as dating a Christian. The difference is he believes Jesus is the "mightiest messenger" not the son of God, but Christians are considered the older brother to Muslims.
Just don't eat pork, but if he's western cultured than you'll be fine... communication is key here... don't ask idiots they'll lie to look smart, ask him directly Coz you'll be dating him right?
Are you prepared to be bossed about and share him with other women. Plus having to give birth to his SON after a year of Marriege.
My friend had to give up her religion and dress how he wanted. Muslim mens have a saying. You beat a dog, a donkey and a woman. Say no more.
If he's drinking and has screwed other women outside of marriage, then you just have to hope he doesn't decide to PURGE HIS SINS one day by commiting a suicidal jihad.
That's apparently a thing among extremists. No joke.
If he's a moderate? Fine, but you never know. Taqqiyah is a thing where they lie to unbelievers, to pretend that they're moderate.
So are muslims more masculine? I don't get it. All these stories about girls wanting to date muslims...
It'd make sense, considering the religion rejects gays.
OP sounds pretty empathetic, so it won't be she who disrespects I don't think. If it comes down to it, it may be he. How can the OP tell if he has the same level of empathy as her? There's no way of knowing, except plunging head over heels into it.
Is it the risk that turns you on, OP? I really don't get it. Upload a video of you skydiving on youtube, if it suits you, but this feels like a trap. Knowing nothing else about the guy.
Not trying to white knight here, just saying what I'd do if I were you.
Don't get the wrong impression. There's plenty of good muslims out there - but a relationship is basically placing maximum trust. The bad muslims are the needles in the haystack, but there's a few more needles than in other groups (if you want to classify people into groups, which I guess I'm doing in this situation), in my opinion. So you are more likely to get pricked. Is it worth a risk?
I like my manager, who's a muslim, but I wouldn't date him if I were a woman, if that makes sense? Lol! Anyway.
I'm not worried about you getting killed for the sake of his honor, but there's other kinds of beliefs that he might conceal to you until the time arrives. He's just like any other guy, so he might lie about things he feels are awkward to bring up. Eg. He might not believe in condoms, or sex before marriage. And it may be even harder to break up with him than with other guys. It's also very hazy. Lot of chaotic unknowns.
As a Christian, you should be dating the someone the same faith as you. God says not to yolk with people who do not follow Him, you have two different views that will clash eventually. Then again he doesn't seem very serious about the his faith if he's not virgin, drinks, and just seems like an everyday western type of person.
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