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Call me shallow, but I said yes, social status matters. I am a relatively educated person. I have a college degree and that directly translates into the type of status I expect to be in. I am currently dating someone who may or may not have finished high school in Brasil. I acknowledge that there ARE some key intellectual differences that are hallmarkers of certain attainments of education. Can he debate with me over ideological principles? no. does he actively invite new sources of literature into his life? no. etc.
it's not about being "smarter" than another person, its about being "trained" to think a certain way and not being able to connect with people outside of that once you've committed to entertaining certain types of thought. I am with him because I am entertaining his type of thinking, the way he enjoys life I can enjoy. I also know that he would not enjoy the "mental work" that I do to relax because it would be stressful for him.
Is it possible to find an intellectual equal from someone of a different class? yes. but realistically I think most people would lose interest before hand and chalk it up to something else. We both know this relationship isn't forever and we don't try to blame each other for our class differences or expectations of life.
I changed the relationship status in social media so everyone can know that I'm dating the most precious guy in the world 😍
It depends, because I'm kind of a hybrid. I come from a middle-class background, but my parents were poor financially, so I can identify with people who have very little, because that was me. At the same time, I grew up with morals and manners and high standards to live by, so I don't really consider myself "low-class." I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. I try to stay out of trouble with the law. Also, I like to pronounce words correctly and not slur them together, and I don't have that much of an accent, either. In addition, I like to speak in complete sentences, use proper punctuation, and use correct spelling and grammar as much as possible, and I expect others who are communicating with me to do the same.
I am unclear on your meaning about social status. What I value in a partner is a woman that can hold intelligent conversations, presents well, and that can go to formal dinners and dine with good table manners. This does not mean she has or needs to have money and it also does not mean she would be snobby, stuck up, or high maintenance.
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No, it is of little importance. It would only matter if the person had no drive or motivation to be “successful” in their own life.
It 100% depends on how the guys were raised.
I know many people (guys and girls) from "elite" social status families, who are so coddled that they become narcissistic, socially inept twats because they never had to work hard for anything. 90% chance will cheat on future spouse because they feel entitled, and their spouse won't leave them because of that "elite" status.
On the other hand, I know people from "lower class" families who were raised well, and formed incredibly strong family bonds because they had to work hard to survive together. These people are loyal, considerate of others, hardowrking and down to earth,
There are also people from these same "lower class" families, but the family is dysfunctional. A parent walked out, drugs, booze, what have you. These poor souls will understandably come with a lot of emotional baggage; if they are insightful enough to address and overcome these issues, they can become like category 2 above. Otherwise, the emotional burden of all the pain they went through spills into their relationships.
To be honest, most of the people I loved were in Category 2. The "upper class" were just to self-absorbed and dull, in my opinion.
Yes and no. I don't care if she's popular, but I do care that she has friends. Also care the types of friends she tends to have. Like does she have real friendships or does she have pretend friends for this semester or worse. Girls that don't even like her, but they hang out so they can continue to hangout with a particular group of people they actually like. Are all of her friends students who are traveling in the summer or working to get ahead in life? Or are all of her friends drug dealers in states where you can't even legally sell marijuana lol. That changes things a bit for me. Her friends wouldn't stop me from dating her necessarily, but who her friends are and how they interact would begin to affect how I see her to some extent.
I'd imagine it would be similar for a girl if she met a guys friends and saw that he was bottom bitch with all his "friends" shitting on him. It would begin to affect how she sees the guy she is with. That's just a human thing. Like after awhile you're curious why people are acting a certain way with your partner. I've dated girls when introducing me to their friends they tried to hookup with me behind her back. That shit is real.
I care more about who she hangs around with since that can reflect on her personality/beliefs. For the whole shallow thing most guys and girls are shallow to an extent and that's good. Having low standards is bad, but having high standards can be good as well as long as it's not unrealistic or almost impossible. A guy blaming a girl being selective on who she wants for a potential partner and father of her future children is idiotic. Unless her standards require really unrealistic standards then I can understand someone giving her critism for it.
Yes indeed. If you don't fix up your act as a man your sugar mamma is gonna get sick of you and leave. It's tough dating a rich high class woman, especially if you're a broke piece of shit.
Women engage in hypergamy. Women tend to marry across and up dominance hierarchies while men tend to marry across and down.
The socio-economic status of a woman determines almost zero of her attractiveness towards a man whereas the socio-economic status of a man is a major determinant of his attractiveness towards a woman. Wealth is not the primary factor however, a man's productiveness is brought into question as well.
Well I like this type of questions, and I expect more women vote sincerely to it.
By now if you add yes and depends it looks that women its still a factor to 50% as while men its just 33%. Interesting data.
On my opinion traditional women still have it as a factor and is one of the things they have to change if they want to be equal, if you think about it, the reasons because of it depends are used to be social class and money.
Most men think about they giving it, so for us it isn't as important, but if women start to think about they giving it, I think this statistic would be more equal.
So come on, girls, you can be the one who gives social status to the relation.
It's in my opinion that it is easier when the social status of the person you're with is similar to your ow (though having a relationship in of itself equates with social status, so it really all depends on how you see it). Making a meaningful contribution to the relationship is more important to me personally.
Social status as a distinct attribute, no... but many of the things that affect social status do heavily matter: Intelligence, fitness, attractiveness, etc. My girlfriend was "just a waitress" and didn't have a huge social group, but she has qualities I find attractive and meets my standards.
No, only personal status. Social status is how a guy relates to the overall group, personal status is who he is and his level of development. I date guys who have a strong sense of themselves and who they are. Principles and morals are sexy to me along with a guy who has made himself something he's proud of.
No not at all. I’m from a wealthy family myself. I understand the not so fortunate may have those ideals but not us fortunate ones. That’s what makes the wealthy covetable, we have the time to introspect, because our ideals got us that far to begin with ;)
He needs to show some consistency. Keep a job, manage money well enough to keep a decent car etc... he doesn't need a bunch of money to get me. I don't have a bunch of money myself, so how critical and hypocritical for me to expect it.
If you mean social status like popularity idgaf about that either. I'm an introvert. So I keep to myself.
I had to search through comments to see what do you exactly mean by saying "social status"...
Yeah i do care.
Consider a super handsome, super nice guy whose friends are a bunch of misogynist losers. Will i date him? Hell no.
A really smart guy who says he is involved in some strange cult. Will i date him? No.
An average looking guy, with average intelligence whose friends are decent looking and kind heart, now what? He is 100 times better than those two.
I assume we use social status to read into the personality of the other. But the society is far less evolved than the human is, and therefore will give insufficient data. Also using social status can also be attractive in ways we have positive associations the we project onto the other, and therefor will rather see ones own idea about that person. So, it can be a generally good filter.. But can also miss some treasure for sure.
Well I’ll make the difference here and not try to make everyone like me by saying “no of course not” and “love only matters” and shit.
Yes status matters to me, I come from a very wealthy family, I grew up a very specific way and I want someone with similar expiriences.
I could never go for someone that doesn’t have travelled around the world, went to a private school or grew up in wealth in general.
Cause we simply wouldn’t understand each other, we wouldn’t match.
Not really, just that they're culturally refined and intelligent. Enjoy things like art and opera and classical music, and they know how to dress in a classy manner when the situation calls for it. I don't care about their "status" as long as those things are met.
I'd say. I don't know. If you mean like being popular or something? Then I don't give 2 fucks but like social status in being rich or poor or something? I really dont know.. Like it doesn't make much of an impact at my age because kids usually either dont work or work so they get money to buy what they without their parents nagging... Well some are spoiled and I only avoid them if they're like really annoying...
I mean usually it doesn't but I'm not gonna date a jobless crackhead. I also wouldn't want to date someone way out of my league, like a well known model of celebrity, because I'd feel so nervous about them cheating
I think most people who said no would agree in most cases this does matter but they don't want to seem shallow.
Don't get me wrong I don't want the girl that I'm dating to be a complete bum but she doesn't have to make a million dollars either when I'm with somebody I'm with them because of the connection the attraction and the way she treats me not what she has. I'm educated I have a really good job and I make really good money so I don't need her to give me anything financially what I need from her is what I can buy and that's love support and understanding
It influences ettiquette & behavior in social settings so yes, to an extent it certainly does matter because I don’t want to ever be ashamed of my partner because they don’t know how to act in a more formal or uptight environment.
Not at all. In fact, I'd prefer to date a girl who had a smaller social circle, as it would be easier to integrate into, and she'd likely be able to devote more time to our relationship.
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