25M never a girlfriend or been kissed still a virgin I'm fat ugly according to women at least and I'm short and no good looking women like me help me?

[smbthe3rd]

People feel I don't have a choice but to only try and date unattractive obese women cause i have to "know my place"

Can I get opinions of my looks from my profile pic

25 never a girlfriend or been kissed still a virgin never a date No attractive women like me only unattractive obese women like me and that's who people tell me to learn to settle for i hate my life cause of it I'm 5'5 230 lbs.

5 dating sites and never has an attractive or decent looking woman matched or message me only unattractive obese women or unattractive women do.

When I go to bars and clubs I get rejected and ignored every time I can't win.

The women i try for and who i want to attract are Ria Ciuffo from Barstool Sports attractive.

I get told to aim for girls as unattractive and fat as the girl from youtube Christine Syldelko.

Big difference in what i try for and what people tell me to get used to aiming for instead of offering advice that would help me attract women as good looking as Ria.

And if any of my friends saw me dating a fat ugly girl they'd either laugh at me or worse think we're a good match saying I'm as bad looking and as much a loser as her. And if any of the women who rejected me saw me with a fat ugly girl I'd be looking for a bus to hit me.
I don't hate women. who I hate are the guys who women choose because the guys who women choose are always the type who have always picked on me and bullied me and then they rub it in my face on how they were able to get the girl I try for

I'm terrified of putting in the work and effort to find out and I'm still not good enough

Let me tell you the worst feeling in the world next to losing a parent is looking at that empty space in your bed all alone knowing that no woman in this world loves you cares about you or even thinks about you

I'm 25 kissless virgin I'm fat ugly short poor and broke and no attractive women love me my life is miserable because women like Ria Ciuffo would think I'm ugly... Can I get advice please?

[MovingOnAgain]

Sounds like we're 2 peas in a pod. I'm also 25, M, never kissed a girl, am a virgin, and also think I'm ugly. But I have A LOT of confidence in myself.

Here's the thing, I also used to feel like you did. But I've come to realize that that's a bad way of seeing things. So here's some advice.

Sure, maybe I'm ugly. So? We're not all perfect. We're bound to have our faults and maybe our look is one of them. We play with the hand we're dealt. So does that mean we should just "get over it"? Not exactly. Be realistic. Examine your characteristics, and find what is best about you. For me, I've found that people find me funny, think I'm nice, and people generally like my methodical explanations. Because of that, I try to show others that side of me. Work with your positive characteristics, not your negative ones. Have you ever liked a woman solely based on her personality? I know I have. Looks are only a factor, but they aren't the sole reason why someone would go out with you. I mean, I've been told that someone liked me simply cuz they thought I was smart. Find that positive characteristic of yourself and focus on that, whatever it may be. The more you dwell on the negative characteristics, the less time you put on developing what makes you great.

Don't compare yourself with others. Not a good game to play. I also have many friends who have attractive girlfriends. Hell, I have some friends that are already dads and here I am not even having taken the first step to even experiencing any form of personal relationship. And yet, it doesn't matter. Why? Cuz you aren't your friends and they aren't you. There is absolutely nothing to compare. Your humor is different, your eye color is different, your personality is different, your facial hair is different, you both speak differently, literally every single thing about you and your friends is different. Of course they have a different lifestyle than the one you lead, it's to be expected. But you aren't being realistic. Who's to say that attractive woman isn't a pain in the ass? I've had a couple of attractive female classmates that would just drive me up the f*ckin' wall lol. Relationships are more complicated than that- Hell, people are more complicated than that. Just cuz your friend has a pretty girl, it doesn't mean his life is perfect. She could be a major bitch, maybe he has a really shitty job, maybe he still hates his life for whatever reason. There are so many possibilities. And so, comparisons are pointless. Live your life. Learn more about you. Develop your positive characteristics, on your terms and no one else's. This isn't a race with anyone. You aren't going too slow or too fast. You are going at the exact pace you are meant to be going. I mean, all of this boyfriend/girlfriend thing is a societal construct. We completely pulled it out of our ass. Some people have monogamous relationships, some have open relationships, some wife/swap, some have kids, some don't, some adopt, some live alone, etc. We made all this up. There's no hurry. It's all in your head. Life is fine, but we get sad that we don't have certain things in life in a timely manner. It's totally fine. As long as you focus on developing yourself, things will naturally come to you.

I've become different to who I was before. I've had a couple of girls who I know have liked me, but I didn't like them. Hell, I rarely like girls, nowadays because I care too much about their personality over anything else... and I'm SUPER picky on that, despite me not having been with a woman. And the reason they liked me was barely ever related to how I looked, but related to how I would speak with them, how I made them laugh, and my confidence in everything I said. And all the while, thinking I'm ugly. Appearances are only one factor. There are other factors to focus on. But those greatly differ from person to person. Find the factor that makes you different, that makes you amazing. Develop that. Hope this helps :)

[besticanexplain116]

"Help me"? No. Help *you*.
All you're doing is asking for pity and wallowing in a deep, deep grave. You're not even using your hands to grab the walls of your prison. You make yourself ugly by doing what you're doing, you have to assert something for yourself or simply just bite the shit down.

You keep naming people, I hope you aren't actually focused on tackling people on the internet. Quit being so demented, maybe it's a bit more than just looks and the negatives you see get eclipsed so bad that it sours those qualities further than it would if you were simply just confident and not socially destructive to your own self.

[Roxilicious]

Here you go again dude people already told you LOOSE WEIGHT. Clearly you aren't taking anyones advice and want to remain lazy yet still attract bomb females. You're not gonna do it and you're setting yourself up for a long lonely future if you keep aiming for girls you can't get. You aren't above an obese not so goodlooking female and you aren't somehow any less of a looser sorry to break it to you. You are seen as a looser by normal girls and its because of your weight/ looks and also if she were to come across this more than likely this feel sorry for yourself attitude without trying isn't gonna be very attractive either. You dont even care about you and it shows no attractive female who cares about her looks is gonna bother endless you were for some reason a really rich man and even than it won't be love. She'll always not want you because you physically aren't attractive to her and its even less attractive that you wouldn't even make an effort to change it. You're. shallow af and expect way too much for what you're willing to put out into the world.

[smbthe3rd]

And how do you think putting me down helps any?

[Roxilicious]

You DON'T want the help all you want to do is for people to feel sorry for you. Loose weight or try and make a ton of money to have someone fake love you rn if not stop complaining about this when in reality you don't care enough to do anything about it. Help yourself hun there's only so much peolle on the internet giving you advice can do.

[Roxilicious]

People*

[smbthe3rd]

You being a bitch about it has you look less likely to be a valuable reference. You look like the girls who you describe who'd use me for my money.

[englisc]

She's right though, you are a fucking idiot.

[Roxilicious]

As a sugarbabby and that being my job yes i just told you what the actual truth is. there's nothing mean about it honestly and you dont even really care about doing anything so I'm telling you the truth. Nothing will change for you since you won't im sorry I don't know what else you want anyone to really tell you at this point.

[Roxilicious]

And right Englisc? Like how many times do you have to ask before you realize whatever you're doing needs to change like sheesh.

[smbthe3rd]

Rox you're the reason why women get labeled as lazy gold diggers in this world. Quit focusing on your nails and snapchat and buy your own gucci bags. You're admittedly acknowledging that you're a shitty person. Be like that woman AOC. Not another Courtney Stodden.

[smbthe3rd]

What you call being a "Sugarbaby" is actually called prostitution

[Roxilicious]

And i can still date attractive men and you know whats even worse they dont even have to be rich to pull me lol thats the honest truth doe woman easily date attractive men and more than normally girls who do this are with an attractive man who does the same thing and we basicslly stack up together like that yes attractive men can be sugarbabys as well and its a common relationship in our community. Its rare that we actually end up with a sugardaddy and even rarer to end up loving one but the agreement never is "love". If you are not rich nor atrractive yet want girls like me or higher yet wouldn't even be willing to change like wth? You dont think you're asking for a bit much for the amount of effort you're willing to put in?

[smbthe3rd]

You aren't that hot I'm sorry. You're a typical hot cheeto eating chola. You don't merit being as shallow as you are so you're no saint yourself. If you looked like Valeria Orsini then maybe but you absolutely do nothing for me. Not attractive to me at all.

[Roxilicious]

And i still wouldn't date you I'd date a hot Hispanic boy (which i already do and can do) also not a chola that's just straightup ignorant. Also you can't talk down on me when you still can't even pull me just stop you're fat and unattractive and you look silly trying to talk down on me. 😆 if i were you I'd value my advice and take it because you'd be lucky to ever even kiss the ground i step on hun.

[smbthe3rd]

I'd be looking for mouthwash honestly maybe even Clorox.

[Roxilicious]

Take it hun will do you a lot better than all the complaing you do :)

[smbthe3rd]

No itd be for your boyfriend cause he needs it more than anyone.

[Roxilicious]

Lol 😆 right at least my boyfriend can pull me

[Roxilicious]

AT THE LEAST lmfao what can you pull RN? Because obviously the answer is nothing so please just stop and accept you are the one who doesn't want to change. You don't even deserve a better person than you im js.

[smbthe3rd]

And I'm JS you are the type of women that real good women hate and you acknowledge that and don't care. That's truly sad.

[Roxilicious]

Stop lol you don't get to decide if I'm even a real woman or not 😆. I am a good woman I'm not a liar I try and help everyone and i love all my People with intensity. I'm a good woman you may not like how i am but, you also don't get to decide im a baby woman for telling you the literal truth. I could sugarcoat what i have to say but what use is sugarcoating anything gonna do for you. The truth is You're lazy asfk and don't actually care enough about this to maie a change. You are litearlly insane for believing you are gonna get different result doing the SAME thing. What are you expecting? This isn't productive and yes it's the truth.

[smbthe3rd]

And you're also the same woman who said even if i lose weight I'm still unattractive looking regardless so how's that helpful?

[Roxilicious]

Because you are but at least skinner you might pull someone

[smbthe3rd]

"Pull someone" means a girl whose barely a 4 or 5 but you expect me to think that girl is "The One"

[Roxilicious]

Okay but You're barely a 2 rn? You aren't even better than a 4 or 5 RN.

[smbthe3rd]

You telling me to lose weight and still date ugly girls is like telling me to go to college but still work at McDonald's

[Roxilicious]

I was only joking you know what i originally told you if you're still ugly than but i also but I don't know if thats the case also there's only one way you can find it and its loose weight stop asking on here because the answer i the same

[PondyPand]

Why should anyone love you if you can't even like yourself?

[smbthe3rd]

How bad are my looks?

I don't like myself because no one loves me.

[PondyPand]

Again, why should anyone?

[BadApple1]

I have so much to say here... first of let’s start with fat ugly girls. I have dated all shapes and sizes, a skinny girl and a fat girl have one important thing in common... they are both human beings with feelings, desires, love to give... don’t rule out a girl because of her size or looks. If your friends laugh then they aren’t really good friends. Next given your description of yourself I would say you have the wrong idea of your self worth. Just like the women you shouldn’t judge anyone even yourself by the cover. Be the best person you can be! People will notice. Be confident in who you are. I personally look at other guys who are much better looking then I, and I know he is in no way a better person, a better friend, a better lover, or a better defender of honor then I. I am in no way better looking then you but I can date girls half my age (and no I am not rich lol). I know how to talk to people, I know how to sell myself so women will want to be with me... the first place you need to look good is in your eyes, then the rest will fall into place. Work on your self image and good luck.

[natebragz]

Mate. Forget those guys who tell you to stay in your league. Actually. And those girls who don’t give you any attention, don’t try to get with them because they’ll treat you badly throughout whatever you guys have. Just be yourself and forget about girls. When there’s a girl who you know you want (you want a girl who looks good but can have a decent conversation with you) you should slide in. And never go straight in. Try to slide in by being a friend, but flirt with her. Then ask her out seriously. Keep the flirty thing to maximum a week or two, but make sure it isn’t too early or late. This sounds cliche af, but if I’ve learnt anything with girls, cliche is gold. Find someone who loves you as you. Then you’ll always feel comfortable with yourself. And remember, she doesn’t complete you. She isn’t the missing piece, she’s the reinforcement. good luck my guy

[Barrabus_the_Free]

First off, stop basing your self worth on your ability to gain access to gash.

Second, realize that you don't NEED a woman to be happy, and in fact you're a lot LESS likely to be happy with some harpy screeching at you about pointless shit just for the sake of causing drama.

Third, you're not stuck how you are. Cut all junk food and hit the gym. And concentrate on things you enjoy, your hobbies or whatever. You stop worrying about this, it gets easier to get women. They can sense neediness and desperation, and they avoid that. OTOH, when you don't give a fuck it gets them turned on, and they want you.

[robusn]

You have nice hair and a good smile. I bet that your funny also. Bro I'm 6'4 and I was built. Lost my virginity at 25. Don't look for attractive superficial women. The right woman in your eyes will become the most beautiful thing on earth. Ask a girl you think is cute and watch her become too damn hot

[TheUniqueOne96]

Being short is no big deal.

Lose weight, if you're insecure about that too, but combine it with a good diet, where you eat what you like, can do it long term, avoid depriving yourself of the foods you love, whilst maintaining a look you're happy with (weight train & cardio).

Try and new hairstyle and a beard, it can make a huge difference.

[Balcazaurus]

If you worked out, you'd be better off.

Lose the weight/gain some muscle and thusly a spot of confidence, let it shine, and SOMEONE is bound to be interested in you.

No one likes a sad sack. I know. If I were aomeone else, I wouldn't give me the time of day, but that's what repressing your feelings and concealing your insecurities as a chill demeanor is for. Ja ja

[pattonias]

I have a similar problem to you. Except i have had a girlfriend and kissed a girl before. If you really do believe your ugly and fat then your shooting out of your range. Even if your not ugly and fat you shouldn't shoot to high with your current confidence. So don't be to high and mighty, its okay to shoot for a girl that's not as attractive as the ones you usually try for. Even if it doesn't lead to anything but some making out , it might help out your confidence.

[Anonymous]

First get an escort and lose your virginity. Then begin to work on yourself. Why should an attractive girl go for what you describe? As to fat-diet and work out. As to broke-get educated and make some money. Women will forgive ugly fat and short if you have money but will never go for poor and broke. It may take a few months but you can do it if motivated.

[Anonymous]

Change your diet. Dr. John McDougall is your guy. You don't even have to start exercising or starving yourself. You don't seem to be ugly, just fat which makes the face look less desirable. I used to be fat and ugly, but I actually had good looking face when I lost weight. You look much better than I did when I was fat, plus you have good teeth which I don't have. You have no problems when you change your body and your thoughts about yourself.

[loosekunt]

don't stress to much bro Im 43 and never been on a date or had girlfriend and is still a virgin, your 25 and U can work hard at improving your appearance to become a more attractive lad for the ladies, I know now what I need to do and have started my regime to finally lose my virginity

[Saccharissa]

Well, if you're only interested in good looking women, I'd say they deserve to set the same standard for you. Hypocrisy isn't attractive either, by the way.

[smbthe3rd]

If i lose weight and hot girls don't like me then what am i suppose to do

[Saccharissa]

Stop treating them like some commodity you're entitled to and try again?

[stella501]

What you need to do is focus on yourself , loose weight , get in the gym take care of your appearance and work on your career and then it’ll be easier to find a girlfriend as you will be more confident and appealing , there are no shortcuts.

[Barkey18]

Well don't just lay your ass and say when will I be attractive and get attention from the girls start working out like really hard and the hard work will pay

[smbthe3rd]

But if I lose weight and I'm still ugly then what am I supposed to do from what every woman has said I'm not good-looking regardless

[Barkey18]

Well fuck them they can't judge you for your looks if they want a perfect guy maybe they should try creating him
Listen if you keep saying that and live like that you're gonna die a loner tho get out of your comfort zone WORK out
You know some people used to say and I quote " don't change so that people can like you be you and the right people will love you for who you are"
But if you really NEED the looks so much then go do a plastic surgery or sth

[englisc]

Stop being a lazy fuck and lose the weight.

[NineBreaker]

Grow a beard.
Be more confident and outgoing.
Get a manly hobby or two, like woodworking, or classic carcrestoration or something.

Based on my personal observations, and contrary to popular belief, most women actually prefer more masculine men.

[lovemedammit]

WHO CARES?
LOVE YOURSELF
FOCUS ON YOUR CAREER
AND IMPROVING YOURSELF
GET A HOBBY
ALL WILL FALL INTO PLACE

[thechesseman]

Your forced smile is creepy. You look like a 12 year old boy. What's up with your left eye? Just go talk to women without thinking about dating them so you're not so nervous. Be yourself so they don't think you're secret crazy.

[feelgoodnow]

Eat like a rabbit go to the gym and throw out the game console, enjoy life we have one chance so make the rest of your life the best of your life! And be the person you always wanted to look up to!

[englisc]

How many times are you going to ask the same question over and over again?

[smbthe3rd]

Till an attractive woman tells me i have potential if i lose weight. I get told I'll maybe just be average at best.

[englisc]

Most women are clueless about this stuff, you won't get decent advice from them, so you'll be looking forever for that.

I'm a guy who was once an extremely shy guy who was terrible with women. I was able to improve to the point where it wasn't a problem anymore. I'm also short, not amazingly good looking, not rich etc. Before you start with that.

My advice:

Stop going on reddit and reading the Red Pill bullshit, most of those guys are autistic weirdos. Guys who are unsuccessful with women themselves. If you want advice on anything, do you take it from someone who is successful or someone who is a complete failure?

Stop making all of these excuses not to do anything. Start lifting weights 3-4 times a week. Eat good food, lose fat and gain muscle. This will make you healthier as well as making you look more attractive.

[Roxilicious]

No attractive woman like? What about unattractive woman have you gave them a shot?

[smbthe3rd]

I get told to aim that low or die alone. But if I end up with an unattractive obese girl I'm a loser for life. I stay alone I'm a loser. Its a lose-lose.

[Roxilicious]

Hate to break it to you but, you're shallow and do deserve to just end up alone instead. If you wouldn't even date an unattractive bigger person yourself why are you expectint an attractive girl to feel sorry for you and want you?

[smbthe3rd]

How about offer advice on how to attract good looking women instead of telling me to cave in and settle for whatever comes my way?

[Roxilicious]

Okay I'll offer some advice get a TON of money and spend it on a female Maybe just maybe she'll fall for you. I'll tell you this much doe my sugardaddy can barely get a response out of me even if he spends money and he's spent on A LOT if different girls in hopes maybe ones gonna fall. None of us do because despite it all looks are a lot of it. Only REAL way is loose weight and try and fix it but, once again if its your face you can get as muscular as you want still won't help. Also im not saying you're ugly but, if that were the actual case here than yes it won't even help if you loose weight and do whatever to your body. The best you can do is find a good friendship with a woman and appreciate you have it and you won't have to sleep alone at night ever again. Also beauty is NOT everything if you make it all you want trust me its gonna bite you in the ass eventually. Once you're an old man the last thing you're gonna truly need is an attractive woman.

[Roxilicious]

Im telling you baby you gotta let go of your superficial mentality to truly find love. Attractive people only end up together because we as humans are designed like that. We are attracted to who we think is in our "league". The only problem is when you're not so attractive and you can see how everyone else is supposed to look but, you just don't. Yes you're gonna want the beautiful people but, beautiful people want beautiful people and you need to be okay with that. Trust me the grass isn't just greener on the other side either looks dont matter. If attractive people dont want you that's OKAY find love elsewhere but, what you have will always be deeper. If you love someone despite not being physically attractive to them thats a beautiful thing and yes you'll come to find its hard but it won't matter eventually.

[Coffeebeanz]

Yeah, an “attractive” woman could fall for him as he is without money but no way with that attitude.

[monkeynutts]

Bro you got to put in a fight, you got to bring you weight down to no more that 66 kg. Focus all your attention on yourself for six months, biuld muscle. And then try again.

[smbthe3rd]

If i lose weight and hot girls still think I'm ugly what am i suppose to do?

[monkeynutts]

Stop being a pussy and get on a treadmill, losing weight will totally reshape your face too.

[smbthe3rd]

weight is only still one of my insecurities granted my biggest but not my only one

Height: 5'5. Women aren't attracted to short guys

Looks: Reddit and GirlsaskGuys have made it clear I'm not good looking

Money: Broke and Poor and in college. Yes i work.

Virgin: it's not attractive to be 25 and a virgin.

[monkeynutts]

Get on the treadmill.