Also you probably will be much more successful than ugly dudes. You will get attention, you will have self-esteem etc etc.
It’s like playing game of life on easy mode.
When I was a teenager, I went to rehab with a bunch of rich kids. A lot of them were ULTRA attractive. AND had rich parents, something I envied, for sure.
I knew several excessively attractive males in there and later at N. A. who were broken beyond belief. Addicted to heroin or coke, etc, self-harming, suicidal. One tried to stab himself in the neck multiple times. A guy I got pretty close to ended up hanging himself. He looked like a model.
Life knocks us all to the ground man. Yeah, they might have some things easier, but overall, life is a bitch to virtually everyone. Though, yes, being attractive is probably more desirable than not. And it certainly comes with perks. But it also comes with issues; and, it also doesn't free one from existential suffering.
Another thing is that we humans tend to ignore what we have and want what we don't have. So you're looking at super hot guys going "Man, if only I had that." And they might be looking at you going, "Man, if only I had what he has." It's easy to see what others have and what we don't have. It's a lot harder to see what they don't have.
For instance, North Koreans are happier than South Koreans. Makes literally no sense right? South Korea is a developed, relatively free, rich country, and is the suicide capital of the world. North Korea, shit, they make 12 year olds watch public executions. They've starved to the point where rice was a cherished birthday present once a year, living under constant threat of being killed for watching porn or Western media or basically anything else. But they're happier. Why? They have bonds. They have community, still, while South Korea doesn't, as much.
I'll also tell you, with women, looks do not matter that much. Even if you're ugly, if you develop the right mindset, create the right habits, develop the right skills, then you could walk up to women with little resistance, as well. Getting shredded might help a bit, but what it really helps is your confidence, which is more attractive than the body, to women. Ugly men are a lot luckier than ugly women (though, ugly women can win too with the right developments).
As the first of the Four Noble Truths states: Life is Suffering. No one is immune to that. This is not an easy world to live in for anyone.
Sure, you can say it's like "playing life on easy mode". That's not necessarily a good thing.
You know what happens to people who play games on easy mode? They start to lose the game once the slightest amount of difficulty is added.
People who coast through life on nothing but their good looks are hollow, shallow people who can't do anything except look pretty. I guess if your idea of the perfect life is just being able to have sex easily, then that's not a bad thing. But if you have ANY goals in life whatsoever beyond sex, it's gonna be a problem.
I agree. 😄
not really, everything comes to prons and cones
and a lot depends on your personality
Im pretty and it can be hard from jaelous people and guys that just won't leave me alone
sometimes you dont want the attention and just want to live your life without people bothering you
Do you have kids or siblings
personality is irrelevant to 100% of females
@incelposting what women mean with personality is guy having some confidence, emotional strenght etc. It's not like being a nice, kind person.
Confidence is directly proportional to how attractive you are physically.
Otherwise you're creepy,
@incelposting maybe if you are too ugly but if you have average looks it's not.
@incelposting "personality is irrelevant to 100% of females"
yeah women are the ones that only care about looks, men look for personality in females right LOL
@ChiTown33 at least we agree on something ;)
its so sad tho to see so many people hating on ones that look good and think they have it easy. I had such a hard life nor I have luck in love. Go figure.
@devilish-cutie agree. Same with jealous women who voice when every ither woman looks at you and you don't even know they are talking about because you aren't paying them any attention, just them.
Jealousy sucks. Easier just to remain single.
@MannMitAntworten yeah, those people dont see that they just vent their frustration about their insecurities on people that have done nothing to them; they just see their side
jaelousy is horrible
@devilish-cutie So true. Heck, the comments that follower even further illustrate this.
Till I started using this site I never realized just how wide spread insecurity and depression had become. Same goes for overt sensitivity. The nutty insults and name calling as well... totally caught me off guard. Especially because this just never happens in person. It's a different world online. A crazy insecure world.
@MannMitAntworten apsolutely agree that online everything is different. Thats why Im not a fan of online dating. It is a place tho where you can vent or share things you maybe cannot with someone else. I mostly come here cause I like to help people and I like to talk about difficult topics which is hard in RL since poeple wouldn't be that open. But I definitely think that the situation in society isn't that good, people less and less care about being kind to each other and that causes too much tension. People also try to maintain their imadge and so everything becomes fake and you can feel it all being off. Thats where I think depression and all that starts and it caused to be wildley spread.
@devilish-cutie In regard to online dating, it was so bizarre for me I ceased doing it a while back. It is still so much easier to meet people while out and about.
Perhaps it is just the "vibe" I give off (to use a friend's phrasing), but people even in person confide wild things to me and seek my perspective. Young and old alike. I enjoy the 'human' interaction. Still, the insecurities men and women have blow me away - especially men anymore. What the hell happened to my gender? I digress.
It certainly is interesting here. Particularly where the division over the various lines exist. It's nutty. Anyway, good morning.
Maybe. But some women are more skeptical about analyzing what Mr. Tall Handsome is really after. Who cares if he's handsome if he's a douche and has nothing to contribute to society?
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It is unless you have some sort of psychological disorder and don't appreciate what you've got.
Being handsome only goes so far. The guy has to have some other qualities like he's nice. I guess with some women it would be a priority but even most of those women over time realize that a guy being handsome after a while has a lot less importance in what is considered attractive.
I was in a group the other day and we were talking about dramas that we all watch. I said that many times when I was a show an actor will actually get more attractive to me because of how the character is. That I would even watch a drama where the actor isn't considered handsome. One man and one woman said no they weren't that way. They both said that the lead actress or actor have to be good looking for them to watch the tv show. The 4 people in this group were all between 50 and 59.
The thing is men being born handsome just happens. And it isn't their fault if people react to them. If they use people because of it then that is an issue.
watch not was.
Mate it's all about social skills and style. If you don't have the social skills or knowledge of fashion, then sex is gonna be rare for you unless you find someone even more awkward than yourself.
If you do change and have sex with lots of people though you are going to realise that sex is meaningless without love
Take noel fielding for example: he was voted sexiest man he doesn't exactly fit your cookie cutter
Of course social skills are important if you are asocial you can't get woman, if you are not confident you can't get woman no matter how you look but this guy is famous he has status which is major turn on. I'm just saying when you have looks it's like cheating. On top of that if you have personality you will become GOD.
Noel fielding is over 6 foot tall and very wealthy.
I don't know know much he has, but he's not that tall. He's not short, maybe 5'8? If you are looking for short womanizers look at RDJ he's so short he had to wear heels when on set. Yes they're both famous, but if you go meet enough people you'll see how many womanizers aren't genetically blessed, yet they have they're own style that works for them and they have good social skills and confidence.
If you then hang out with the womanizers enough, you'll see how they also hate certain features like their nose or the way their hair is
There is always room for self improvement. Your example, Chris Hemsworth, went through crazy training and a really restrictive diet to get into the shape that he is, and as soon as he's done with marvel, he's probably gonna slip straight into the Dad bod.
Just think of it like a skill. Some people are better than others, but that doesn't mean they should be attacked for it. The rest can catch up if they practice enough
I agree those things. This is not all or nothing situation but what i was saying when you had both the height, body, face and also confident, assertive personality like someone Chris Hemsworth it's like easy mode.
And my point is life is hard for everyone and it's about what you devote your time and learning to achieve.
Like Chris has devoted so much to make sure he keeps up that body
Anyone can be confident. Confidence is just a frame game. Chris wouldn't be confident if he had to reconstruct a religious painting for the queen.
For example noel fielding is most confident on stage dressed up in ridiculous outfits because that's a mask he can hide behind but off stage he is being judged for who he is.
Chris has left his family, friends, and his job to pursue being a famous actor in the biggest summer blockbuster. He wants to show the world how amazing he is. Looking at the film's he's been in recently:
He is part of the world's biggest film ever (infinity war/endgame) however he's also been in a couple bad cash grabs such as Ghostbusters and men in black. He has been typecast for his body a few times now and probably wants to show that he's more than that. He recently got to do comedies but I bet he's gonna try do a more serious film afterwards
As a tall handsome man myself , I can attest that life is nothing but a walk in the park.
For example , I can walk into any supermarket and say " Fill up my shopping cart" and boom , my shopping cart is full within in minutes. All on the house. I can walk into a bank and say "Fill up this bag with $100 millions" Boom , the bag is filled. Let's say that I at at the mall -- you know , just being admired and envied by all those crusty plebs around me - and I see a hot chick , I call her over and say "blow me" and boom , she is on her knees blowing me. Right there in front of every one. What's that , she has a husband / boyfriend? To fucking bad , that punk ass fool can watch.
It's so fucking awesome that there are days I just don't know what to do white myself.
Now if you'll excuse me , I need to go crap out some magical unicorn nuggets.
Not everyone likes a tall guy. :) and not everyone will fall inlove with just a face. :) character and humor makes most of the girls fall in love with them. :)
@Twenty2 No humor will make girls to have sex with you. If that would be the case comedians would be playboys. Strong manly character maybe adds value a lot i can't deny that.
And yes not everyone likes that but majority of humans are not like that.
@Twenty2 lol it's always salty single guys saying this. Science proves men are a lot more visual and looks are a lot more important to them than in women when it comes to dating. Stop blaming women for your experiences in life and look in the mirror and see what can be improved instead (Personality wise as well as physically)
I agree to that.. Majority always look in the physical appearance but not all.. Some also consider one's behavior.. Like how respectful they are to the elders, how they solve some problems, how do they talk to the people around them.. And that's what makes the person beautiful to other's eyes.. :) i'm not referring to the humor itself only but to the behavior or the attitude that every person shows.. :)
I can't blame @Twenty2 and the asker if that's their opinion coz they are guys.. And most guys are very conscious with their looks coz that's what they think the way that girls will fall in love with them or will find them attractive because in reality, that's how they chose girls too.. By physical appearance.. :) Lots of guys focus on Physical needs while majority of the girls is more on emotional needs..:)
I didn't know you could lie so much in just a short sentence
@anniisa men are more visual but it's not like women are not visual at all. Of course things like confidence, having masculine traits with good personality is important also.
@anniisa you don't fall for a guy's character at first sight. It's the looks that matters. Then money then character. There's no way in hell a girl is dating a guy that is unemployed and isn't planning to do something financially good. If I am trying to be an artist but it doesn't earn me anything. No one will give a fuck about me. Looks/finances are the most important. It's the truth.
Everyone knows what girls like: Physical strenght like looks, muscular body, height etc. Emotional strenght, masculinity like confidence, courage, toughness, assertiveness etc or having some kind of status like fame or being rich. Being nice or having a good heart don't add any value. Don't you know nice guy syndrome? 😀
I agree to you asker..:) well, that's just my opinion.. I've been in a relationship before but he doesn't have those kind of traits.. He is not so good looking guy, he is very thin and just 5 flat tall but he is smart and really knows how to respect the people around him and that what makes him stand out.. Most of the guys now focus on physical not knowing that they're being so vain sometimes..
@Twenty2 so you're telling me you would go for a girl with no job or goals in life? What you described is what most people in both genders want.
Actually you're wrong, with the whole artist thing. A girl can find that attractive, most people dont want to be with a partner that's going to be broke within 5 years if they have a shit job. That goes for men too unless they're planning on earning for the family. Your argument is idiotic, you're basically having a fo at women for making responsible choices, or simply being human in going for people they find attractive. Like I said, take a look at yourself instead of feeling sorry for yourself.
I am not feeling sorry for myself. Just stating the truth. I WOULD MARRY A GIRL WITHOUT A JOB OR ANY GOAL tbh. If she loves me and is willing to be a home maker then that's all I need. I don't expect her to earn money at all. If she wants to do a job, she can. But I wouldn't want her to do any job.
@Twenty2 Then that's your own choice if you don't need the girl to do any work, that means you would have to provide for your family and have a good job with good money.
Going for someone with no goals in life though. Just a tad desperate but its your choice. Most people find it attractive if someone has goals and aspirations because it builds on their character and the type of person they are. (Eg not lazy). Most people want a partner that holds the same values as them so if they belive you have to work hard for what you want in life they wouldn't want someone with no education or working towards anything at all.
If you had a job that was paid too little you're partner would need to get a job too. You're not going to like being with her eventually if she really has nothing. Its not realistic. So basically most women are in the right for wanting a hard working partner. Dont think you can be jobless and expect women chasing after you. That's just beyond ridiculous
That being said your partner would most likely end up leaving you if you have a low paying job that can't provide for herself or your future kids so your whole argument about women caring about money is stupid. A gold digger isn't the same as a woman wanting to settle down with a guy with a good job. And again about the whole looks thing, not all women like tall guys. Just like not all men like women with huge butts/ boobs.
You're not stating any truth you're just butthurt towards women for not wanting you.
Where am I wrong?
I said,"But most girls open their legs based on looks." They do. Then I said,"
@anniisa you don't fall for a guy's character at first sight. It's the looks that matters. Then money then character. There's no way in hell a girl is dating a guy that is unemployed and isn't planning to do something financially good. If I am trying to be an artist but it doesn't earn me anything. No one will give a fuck about me. Looks/finances are the most important. It's the truth." This is true too. Then you asked me whether I would go for a girl with no job or goals and I said yes. Where am I wrong? Everything I said is true.
@Twenty2 I think what people are reacting to is the generalization that all women are going to sleep with men solely on looks. That just isn't true. Do some yes. Do all no.
Of course women would like that the man they are with has enough money to cover their bills and making have a small savings but if they by chance lose their jobs while we are with them not every woman is going to throw the guy under the bus.
You are way too young to be this jaded. At 58 I should be the bitter one not you. And I'm not bitter about men even though life has thrown me some curves.
I wrote "most". So I didn't generalised. Trust me, old days were good. Times now have gotten worse. People have become shit. Social media matters more than real people. Looks matter more than real people. Feelings don't matter unless you can provide. I know that because I was good not because I am not good looking. I look good and study at a respected college. I don't lack shit.
@Twenty2 So tell me, fo you believe all women want a tall guy with muscles? Because it all depends on what you think is "Good looking". Like I said not all women need a guy with muscles and not all women want a tall guy. Everyone has their own definition on what is "Good looking".
So are you telling me you would screw a girl even if she wasn't physically appealing to you? As I stated before. That's what humans do. Not just women, you're basically trying to shame women for normal things.
Actually its looks, character and then money to most women. Unless they're gold diggers. It's the same with most men for women too.
I agree, there women aren't likely to date a guy thats unemployed. I've already stated why that's perfectly reasonable so why are you shaming them for it? And dont try and say you're not because you know as well as I do that you're saying this in a negative light as if it's bad and women are insensitive for not considering unemployed men.
And again the artist one true. If you are getting paid (even if not a lot) someone will find a creative man attractive. Again that's just you being butt hurt.
No job? Fair enough if you're willing to get a *good job* and provide. No goals? LOL. I hope you're lying for the sake of the argument for own sake.
@Twenty2 Oh the old times were not any better just people were better at hiding things. Men were less likely to say I want to sleep with you and more likely to be a bit shady or try to fast talk their way into bed with a woman. Not all but a lot.
Sorry I missed the most in your post.
@Twenty2 LOL a lot of women dont care if a guy is fit as in six pack fit. I know that because I see it all the time. Have you gone outside? You see fat couples all the time, or even couples where the guy is slightly overweight. It's not unheard of so what are you talking about? Smells good? LOL No shit. No one wants to date someone that stinks. People want a partner that is responsible for themselves and financially.
I was in love with a girl who was obese, depressed and had scars all over her body. So yeah, I would screw someone I am not attracted to physically.- was this a one night thing or a relationship? If it's a one night thing then bro up your standards slightly. If not then you're not very smart for being with a woman that you didn't find attractive at all. That's on you. Dont insult other people for having better standards. A large majority of men wouldn't even be with someone they didn't find physically attractive. That's not a guy thing that's a you thing.
"Well, women bitch about being equal but a most guy would date someone who doesn't want to do a job but most girls won't." Yes it's called gender roles mate. It's a thing and it works out well. The guys that wouldn't date a girl for not having a job are the guys that wouldn't want to work full time. there's nothing wrong with that.
"If an artist isn't making shit, no one will find him attractive. You are saying that he's making money, most artists don't make money to even survive themselves." Well then that's their own fault for not considering money before choosing their job. Even a little money would have been fine tbh but no money at all. Yeah that's on them.
I dont care what you're studying. Good for you I guess? Either way I dont think you're going to have much luck with women judging on your attitude. Just saying.
It’s because they probably don’t know how to have sex but they have a big dick and they think that’s enough. 🤷🏻♀️ lol but then girls are like “NAHHHH” I always go for personality. In high school, I’ve seen jackasses flirt with girls saying the stupidest lines or just “Hi” and the girls just giggle and I’m just like “WOW, really?” He was the guy who broke up with a girl after sleeping with her for one day, and you want to be the next? Lol okay. And yes, it would be known. Everything got around in my high school. It was sad.
And by “He” I mean, this huge jackass who slept around with half the girls in my grade. Ewww, he isn’t even good looking. He just acted like he was the shit.
What do you mean personality?
Like, I go for sweet guys. The ones who are shy, sweet but sometimes I get fooled and then they end up being assholes pretending to be interested and just wanting attention or just playing with my feelings. That’s what happened in high school. I found my boyfriend on an online dating site and he is the sweetest guy in the world.
Most women don't like shy guys though.
And I found him AFTER high school. Lol some guys are just pricks (Excuse my language).
I do. My boyfriend is sweet. And we are both weird dorks. I was so unpopular in high school, like the shy, weird girl that no one wanted to talk to and I found that people just liked talking shit about how weird I was that I didn’t belong to any kind of “clique” so I just stayed to myself most of the time and waited for high school to be over. And I finally found the guy that I have SO much in common with. I’m sorry, I’m ranting but there are good guys out there and I’m sure you are one of them. Those pricks just weren’t taught respect. And that’s really, really sad. Hopefully, they will or have changed. And they will change the world and shock us.
My boyfriend is shy when it comes to certain things though, like he wouldn’t initiate the first kiss so I did.
I see i'm not shy tbh. I'm social (because i did sales job and learned commumication skills) i always had friends and i was even popular in highschool but right now it's hard. I talk women but nothing works.
So are you saying that you are a tall, handsome man?
I'm tall 6'1 but i'm not that handsome i guess and i don't have that fit body (i'm lean but not that muscular)
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Yeah, that’s life on easy mode right there. People just assuming you know what you’re doing/talking about, plus the ladies are all interested? Yeah, all you need to do is avoid being a douchebag and you’re basically set for life.
Nothing makes dating easy -- everyone gets daunted by it. And whether you can attract women depends far more on personality --especially confidence -- than appearance.
Being tall or athletic gives a modest advantage, and maybe those men are more confident in themselves as a result. But anything about your appearance can be rendered irrelevant by your personality. It's about confidence more than anything else!
Yeah i know but it's hard to be confident when you are ugly or too short etc. Or keep getting rejection from girls after girls. (this is not me by the way i just gave an example)
Some people have it easier, so what? Would you date yourself with that attitude? Even if you didn't win the genetic lottery, we still have ideas and the ability to build our character.
If you want to be attractive, then you have to respect both yourself and others! Your short post is framed in a way that says "what do I (not) get" instead of "what can I give."
And if you're fazed by any rejection, then you still lack strength of character, that self-respect. Too many men treat confidence like it's some kind of talent or commodity, when all it is is respecting yourself and others deeply.
In the dating realm it's definitely easier for tall handsome guys to get attention from women, but it doesn't automatically mean they'll be in a stable or successful relationship. In the beginning of when liking someone it's all based on looks, so of course people like that are going to do better. It's later on in a relationship where all of that doesn't matter as much, but is more built on personality of both the people in the relationship.
Easy mode is being average. The more average you are, the more you fit in with everyone else, the more they trust you, the balanced other people feel around you, etc. As you stray for mean things get harder for you because there are less people like you. Do girls find hot guys attractive? Sure. Do they think all hot guys are players/will cheat/are lying/etc. Yep.
Yeah, that's just not true. Being tall is a prerequisite for some woman, but like not even the majority. Plenty of tall lonely men in the world. I suggest rather than wishing you were tall, you should try to learn to do something that woman find attractive and would like to talk to you about. I went with cooking, but it could be a lot of things: dancing, bike riding, camping, drawing, guitar
That's assuming beauty is universal and being handsome means you're not human or something... You think people can find themselves flawless in their everyday life, if you're a narcissist maybe... it's assuming people don't have their own insecurities faults of character and flaws... And always have it easy and handed to them... Hate to break it to you we're all human, tall short, song weak etc
Pretty girls almost constantly have the heaviest emotional baggage trust me... And sure having people tell you you look nice is cool maybe it boosts your confidence... It's not going to get you all through life
Yeah, there's extra attention and special treatment - but it's not necessarily easier getting the woman you want. And confidence might not be as high as you think either.
In my case, I've grown into my "handsomeness" but when I was younger I was the outcast, so confidence has always suffered.
Maybe it gets the initial attention of a woman, but you still have to present your inner self well too.
Personality is more important for men to be successful in life, love, and career.
A tall handsome guy with a beta insecure personality can be overtaken by an average looking guy with an Alpha personality and attitude.
Women can skirt more on looks alone.
I agree but do you think how many tall handsome guy will have a beta attitude. So few maybe.
Nah. Being born rich is like plying life in an easy mood. Look at Kylie Jenner. If you’re tall and good looking but you were born poor in a third world country it doesn’t really matter, in fact even pretty boys when they are young can be abused by perverts, so it can also be a curse to them
You might be right actually.
Not really, everyone has problems, even Dwayne Johnson has his own problems. You may not have a problem with dating and getting certain jobs, but you might suffer from things like mental illness, crazy ex, people only wanting to fuck and not be serious, etc.
It isn't the height and looks aline. It helps, yes, but being charismatic and easily approachable too goes a lot further. Lots of tall guys with looks gals did but feel they are pricks or too shy r whatever so get passed over. Equally, plenty of short shit men who rock the panties of gals because they are some smooth mother fuckers.
Looks only get men and women in the door. It is all you after that.
They have an advantage but I wouldn’t say they’re playing life on easy mode. Looks matter but a guy needs to have at least a decent personality too for girls to really be interested. Also, good looks don’t guarantee confidence.
What do you meam by personality? If you are saying being kind, nice etc. everybody know those won't work and has no value for women. But are saying having confident, strong personality?
This is stupid, sex and girls aren't everything in life, and getting confidence and validation from those things would do more bad than good.
Sex isn't magic to make your life awesome and flawless, too much of anything is bad, nothing is perfect, there will always be difficulty and bad things in life.
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