MGTOW monk is a way forward for men. Even if you fight your way through the obstacle course of dealing with women and think that you have found ‘the one’, there is a roughly 50 per cent probability that she will arse rape you in divorce court and use child and spousal support orders to make you her impoverished slave for the next 20 years.
I think it's obvious, it gives the SO the feeling that they aren't attractive enough or that the relationship isn't as true as you thought it was. BUT! If it is the other SO's very first date (with you) then it is a big step to take. Keep that in mind and start small, like to the movie theatre. Have patience and don't push it your (first) date will be amazing.
solitude as a concept is mistaken for isolation. Isolation is dangerous, no kidding. Dating is the closest of all interpersonal relationships imao, so people who don't participate in it aren't viewed in positive spotlight.
You'll come around in few months. No women = no pussy. :) When you have a girl that tries to correct you, fix you, run YOUR life, you simply tell them to FUCK OFF. My woman of thirty years simply does not do that. EVER. She never got the nag gene either. It's so bad sometimes I have to get after her for not telling me stuff. LOL Me: Oh, that was my turn off. Her: I wondered what you were doing. :)
Because it goes against what society has deemed "normal" or "right". Fuck it though, don't conform to what society says. Just do what ever works best for you, without harming what's around you. ✌🏿
Not wanting to date again is something you will likely change your mind on once you've had time to process and heal, but that's only speculation on my part and none of my business. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to date if that's what you want, and dating right now would be too soon anyway.
You seem over a barrel with palpable angst and trepidation to. My advice is to never give up as a new relationship can come from any direction including parachuting into your lap. Don't overthink the situation and again please don't give up.
Tell them to fuck off, you can date who you want, and whenever you want. Only you can establish who is the right one, and which is the right time for dating. If they continue with that BS I wouldn't call them friends.
" it's good for once to just think about myself and forward my goals" That's literally MGTOW, but okay. MGTOW doesn't have a membership thing you sign up to or a creed you have to adhere to. It just is. You're MGTOW when you're doing it and holding the attitude. Don't get me wrong. I think it's good and focusing on yourself here is good, but let's not kid ourselves, that's MGTOW.
MGTOW hating women is everyone else's characterization of them though. If others (and you) get to decide how they feel then why aren't others allow to tell you that you hate women and decide what you feel?
The essence of MGTOW is that you don't try to draw your self-esteem from women. Now of course many guys do, and what comes of it? They end up miserable as a result. It's not all women and not all the time, but it is a thing and it's detrimental. The MGTOW approach to this is to disregard that urge to impress and pursue women and to encourage drawing self-esteem from --not just anything else, but specifically personal growth and development. So that means, focus on yourself, start a business, pursue hobbies, make money (for your sake). Draw yourself esteem from things, passions, ideas, goals, etc, instead of looking for value in women's approval.
Now it's not like there aren't guys that take a toxic approach here -- especially when their story involves being on the wrong end of a false accusation or bad divorce -- and come off a misogynistic. But most MGTOW dudes are quieter than them and share your story. Honestly, your story sounds like the average MGTOW to me. I don't think it's something to be insulted by -- and this coming from me who's not MGTOW. I just like the philosophy of it and try to incorporate it into my life. I still want to date girls though and chase that stupid romantic dream. MGTOWs would probably say I'm asking to get burned, and I take their point. We'll see how it goes.
You make good points, but I admit I feel uncomfortable with the MGTOW label, I don't support it and have no wish to engage with MGTOWs and do everything I can to not be associated with them in any way. The only label I accept is "chekist", for my work methods.
Think about it this way, the people who accuse you of so and so have likely not dated a day in their lives. No need to put stock in worthless opinions, hmm?
IT's starting to show itself as a huge blow to women's egos. For years 3rd wave feminists have been patting women on the head and glorifying any women that said "don't need no man to be happy", they wanted men to cry and suffer over this but now that even MEN are saying "yeah I"m not dating either, these millennial women aren't worth the effort" ... no all the sudden we're the bad guys.
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Jeez, everyone has their opinions and preferences at the end of the day. Fuck what anyone else thinks, you do you fella.
Relationships can hurt, nothing wrong with abstaining from karmic circles for a change. If there are consequences so be it.
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You're just hurt and afraid to be hurt again.. give it some time and let yourself heal. but dont turn down everyone because there may actually be someone who won't fuck you over
It is ok if don’t want to date now I am not dating and our society pressures people to hookup with people just to have sex or relationship to feel secure and safe. But it is ok to be single
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That’s just bitterness ignore it actually relinquish in its indirect compliment.
Feel satisfied wear a smile for the bitter retorts.
Meanwhile I got told off for inappropriate behavior lol 😂
MGTOW monk is a way forward for men.
Even if you fight your way through the obstacle course of dealing with women and think that you have found ‘the one’, there is a roughly 50 per cent probability that she will arse rape you in divorce court and use child and spousal support orders to make you her impoverished slave for the next 20 years.
I think it's obvious, it gives the SO the feeling that they aren't attractive enough or that the relationship isn't as true as you thought it was.
BUT! If it is the other SO's very first date (with you) then it is a big step to take. Keep that in mind and start small, like to the movie theatre.
Have patience and don't push it your (first) date will be amazing.
solitude as a concept is mistaken for isolation. Isolation is dangerous, no kidding. Dating is the closest of all interpersonal relationships imao, so people who don't participate in it aren't viewed in positive spotlight.
You'll come around in few months. No women = no pussy. :)
When you have a girl that tries to correct you, fix you, run YOUR life, you simply tell them to FUCK OFF.
My woman of thirty years simply does not do that. EVER. She never got the nag gene either. It's so bad sometimes I have to get after her for not telling me stuff. LOL
Me: Oh, that was my turn off.
Her: I wondered what you were doing.
:)
Well my ex made me hate sex so that's not really a reason to get back to dating.
Fine a pretty young thing and fuck her brains out. That golden vagina will cure you. LOL
I'm not interested thank you
Because it goes against what society has deemed "normal" or "right". Fuck it though, don't conform to what society says. Just do what ever works best for you, without harming what's around you. ✌🏿
Not wanting to date again is something you will likely change your mind on once you've had time to process and heal, but that's only speculation on my part and none of my business. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to date if that's what you want, and dating right now would be too soon anyway.
You seem over a barrel with palpable angst and trepidation to.
My advice is to never give up as a new relationship can come from any direction including parachuting into your lap. Don't overthink the situation and again please don't give up.
You think it's good? I see it as niether I guess good or bad.
I see it as positive!
👍👍👍
Tell them to fuck off, you can date who you want, and whenever you want. Only you can establish who is the right one, and which is the right time for dating. If they continue with that BS I wouldn't call them friends.
Everything you are feeling is normal and you just need time to get past the pain.
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" it's good for once to just think about myself and forward my goals"
That's literally MGTOW, but okay.
MGTOW doesn't have a membership thing you sign up to or a creed you have to adhere to. It just is.
You're MGTOW when you're doing it and holding the attitude.
Don't get me wrong. I think it's good and focusing on yourself here is good, but let's not kid ourselves, that's MGTOW.
MGTOW hate women for the most part, and I don't.
I'm sorry but I take an association with MGTOW as a personal insult.
MGTOW hating women is everyone else's characterization of them though. If others (and you) get to decide how they feel then why aren't others allow to tell you that you hate women and decide what you feel?
The essence of MGTOW is that you don't try to draw your self-esteem from women. Now of course many guys do, and what comes of it? They end up miserable as a result. It's not all women and not all the time, but it is a thing and it's detrimental. The MGTOW approach to this is to disregard that urge to impress and pursue women and to encourage drawing self-esteem from --not just anything else, but specifically personal growth and development. So that means, focus on yourself, start a business, pursue hobbies, make money (for your sake). Draw yourself esteem from things, passions, ideas, goals, etc, instead of looking for value in women's approval.
Now it's not like there aren't guys that take a toxic approach here -- especially when their story involves being on the wrong end of a false accusation or bad divorce -- and come off a misogynistic. But most MGTOW dudes are quieter than them and share your story. Honestly, your story sounds like the average MGTOW to me.
I don't think it's something to be insulted by -- and this coming from me who's not MGTOW. I just like the philosophy of it and try to incorporate it into my life. I still want to date girls though and chase that stupid romantic dream. MGTOWs would probably say I'm asking to get burned, and I take their point. We'll see how it goes.
Anyway, I said my piece.
You make good points, but I admit I feel uncomfortable with the MGTOW label, I don't support it and have no wish to engage with MGTOWs and do everything I can to not be associated with them in any way.
The only label I accept is "chekist", for my work methods.
Also because today I was taken out by a woman even if I'm planning to cut off contact with her.
If you think you can be happy without dating then it’s definitely a positive thing, it’s up to the person doing it to decide what’s best for them
Think about it this way, the people who accuse you of so and so have likely not dated a day in their lives. No need to put stock in worthless opinions, hmm?
IT's starting to show itself as a huge blow to women's egos. For years 3rd wave feminists have been patting women on the head and glorifying any women that said "don't need no man to be happy", they wanted men to cry and suffer over this but now that even MEN are saying "yeah I"m not dating either, these millennial women aren't worth the effort" ... no all the sudden we're the bad guys.
Jeez, everyone has their opinions and preferences at the end of the day. Fuck what anyone else thinks, you do you fella.
Relationships can hurt, nothing wrong with abstaining from karmic circles for a change. If there are consequences so be it.
You're just hurt and afraid to be hurt again.. give it some time and let yourself heal. but dont turn down everyone because there may actually be someone who won't fuck you over
I love dating, but you should just do what you want. If dating makes you miserable avoid it and do what you love instead.
It is ok if don’t want to date now I am not dating and our society pressures people to hookup with people just to have sex or relationship to feel secure and safe. But it is ok to be single