Thats what i keep asking myself everyday. A lot of the guys i talk to dont seem man enough to talk the talk and walk the walk. They flirt a lot but never ask me to be their girlfriend. Men playin too much these days.
They are worried about you destroying his reputation, having him arrested for sexual harassment and scream rape just because he might not be attractive. It's you females that need to stop playin. Fuck off skank.
@cavmanier haha no not at all. I used to get bothered by these things but i figure it just doesn't matter anymore. They can think what they want and say what they want to me. I'm just gonna keep moving and being happy lol
Unless he is movie star or similar, a man should never approach a woman unless she makes the first move by giving some indication that she likely is interested.
Well chances are he’s interested. That doesn’t make him a “creep” however. As long as he’s cool and respectful about it just be the same about him. Besides you might really like him too.
@westwordbound Don’t let your guard down, not every person you date will be interested in you for who you are.. some are more interested in what you have to offer them and nothing else, my ex-boyfriend for example exploited me for money.. he was sinking into debt and needed a second income for the household. That’s what I meant. The attraction may be mutual but always make sure it isn’t a trap.
This is a two way street. Now that I’m older and I got a good paying job LOTS of women see an opportunity here. But even before that I’ve been exploited in other ways.
But you never know what kind of person is approaching you. Could be a scumbag or it could be the man you would end up happily marrying. At least give him a chance.
@westwordbound The man I’ve been courting here for the past year is pretty chill, but we’re taking it slow as friends and as adults. He’s a fitness trainer and I’m still exploring options directed towards my career path.
Wow. You know I always wanted that at your age (and now). To really get to know somebody and then fall in love and be intimate. But every single time I tried that approach I was friendzoned without fail
@westwordbound I think what most issue women have with men is rushing to ask someone out, some women wear their heart on their sleeve and can be a bit too trusting and unaware of the dangers of doing so.. It’s not fun having been taken advantage of.
@westwordbound I hope to maintain this relationship better than the last... and just hope the steady relationship we have will only change for the better, and I’m looking forward to the best parts to come. I don’t want to take him for granted and nor do I want him to as well as come to the conclusion that I’m not giving him the best of me.. I want a better half, a devoted partner.. not a temporary get-along pal.
I know most women hate having a guy bait them and then pump & dump. You feel used. I feel cheapened.
Here are just a few things that. You may be having sex with him in hopes something will build long term. Maybe he lies to you saying he wants to stay with you (never done that in my btw). You do the deed and it’s meant to be mutually enjoyable. Your emotions are high and then he leaves. You are crushed. You feel the pain in full. It came at you fast and left even quicker. It hurts a lot. Okay.
Now this is how the friendzone works. Guy has a crush on a girl. He acts nice and friendly to melt the ice. He asks her out on a date. He hears women complain all the time about creepy, aggressive or insensitive guys. He doesn’t want to be that. He wants to better. He doesn’t go for the kiss because he rather get a strong signal from you. Hey pays for everything.
This goes on for weeks, even months. He treats her the way she SAYS she wants be treated. One day she complains to him or ask him for advice about another guy. She plays dumb to noticing he likes her. He maybe brings up he likes her and she acts “surprised” (bullshit). He sticks around thinking she will change her mind. He is a state of self torture, she doesn’t respect him or his feelings, other people don’t respect him. He loses self confidence and hates himself and hates her for lying to him about what she “really wants”’. She jumps in bed with some bad boy who doesn’t do jack for her but he’s exciting. The friend zoned guy finds out this and hates himself even more. But if he complains openly he will look even worse.
So tell me. What’s worse? Being used for sex? Or being used for money, attention, favors, free counseling etc ALL at the expense of your limited chivalry?
The average man? Where did you get that information from? Not going on the offensive genuinely asking because most of the cunts a grew up with and know wouldn't give it a second thought, maybe it's different depending on your country? Like cultural differences?
Cause too many women feel "empowered" and feel like it's ok to charge a man with sexual harassment if the talk to them. Also the fact that some women pull there fake fiminist shit
The default answer is always no, agreeing is the exception. Secondly, she can always stop the date before it happens or not show up at all. It makes no sense to do cold approaches.
I get you mean, but the way some dudes come up to these girls is creepy as fuck. Even I notice it. HOWEVER, this can be rectified if they follow a few guidelines. I had to learn this stuff myself and it increased my 'yes's'
It’s always about “lack of confidence”. Such a dismissive lazy cop out you girls have to resort to. If you want us to understand you better, how about you try to understand us?
While that is sometimes true the more common reason is “the fear of looking like a creep”.
We do. I'm not afraid at all to walk up and start talking to a woman. Nothing's going to become of it because I'm married. Maybe that's why it's easier for me.
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Thats what i keep asking myself everyday. A lot of the guys i talk to dont seem man enough to talk the talk and walk the walk. They flirt a lot but never ask me to be their girlfriend. Men playin too much these days.
did you read the details
No. Sorry lol
Hoe.
These guys are probably trying to play around with multiple girls or they are picky about who they want to end up with.
Flirting but not making a move is talking the talk yet not walking the walk. Your welcome Susie Q
They are worried about you destroying his reputation, having him arrested for sexual harassment and scream rape just because he might not be attractive. It's you females that need to stop playin. Fuck off skank.
datgirl, I hope you don't take these "Fuck off skank" comments to heart.
@cavmanier she should.
@Daylight7550 I don't see why you have anger for her?
Is it worth getting blows, bullets, or time behind bars on a frame-up? Not for me!
@J2ohhhhh what i mean is that they flirt and then they just stop. They dont move on to the next step.
@cavmanier haha no not at all. I used to get bothered by these things but i figure it just doesn't matter anymore. They can think what they want and say what they want to me. I'm just gonna keep moving and being happy lol
Damn 10 thumbs down
Unless he is movie star or similar, a man should never approach a woman unless she makes the first move by giving some indication that she likely is interested.
Not true
As long as there’s no ulterior motive to his advances, I don’t mind.
Well chances are he’s interested. That doesn’t make him a “creep” however. As long as he’s cool and respectful about it just be the same about him. Besides you might really like him too.
@westwordbound Don’t let your guard down, not every person you date will be interested in you for who you are.. some are more interested in what you have to offer them and nothing else, my ex-boyfriend for example exploited me for money.. he was sinking into debt and needed a second income for the household. That’s what I meant. The attraction may be mutual but always make sure it isn’t a trap.
This is a two way street. Now that I’m older and I got a good paying job LOTS of women see an opportunity here. But even before that I’ve been exploited in other ways.
But you never know what kind of person is approaching you. Could be a scumbag or it could be the man you would end up happily marrying. At least give him a chance.
@westwordbound True, though men like him can smell peace and stability like a shark smells blood.
@westwordbound The man I’ve been courting here for the past year is pretty chill, but we’re taking it slow as friends and as adults. He’s a fitness trainer and I’m still exploring options directed towards my career path.
Well I hope “courting” doesn’t mean friend zoned
@westwordbound No, obviously he wasn’t friend-zoned lol we’re both busy people.
Wow. You know I always wanted that at your age (and now). To really get to know somebody and then fall in love and be intimate. But every single time I tried that approach I was friendzoned without fail
@westwordbound I think what most issue women have with men is rushing to ask someone out, some women wear their heart on their sleeve and can be a bit too trusting and unaware of the dangers of doing so.. It’s not fun having been taken advantage of.
@westwordbound I hope to maintain this relationship better than the last... and just hope the steady relationship we have will only change for the better, and I’m looking forward to the best parts to come. I don’t want to take him for granted and nor do I want him to as well as come to the conclusion that I’m not giving him the best of me.. I want a better half, a devoted partner.. not a temporary get-along pal.
*issues
I know most women hate having a guy bait them and then pump & dump. You feel used. I feel cheapened.
Here are just a few things that. You may be having sex with him in hopes something will build long term. Maybe he lies to you saying he wants to stay with you (never done that in my btw). You do the deed and it’s meant to be mutually enjoyable. Your emotions are high and then he leaves. You are crushed. You feel the pain in full. It came at you fast and left even quicker. It hurts a lot. Okay.
Now this is how the friendzone works. Guy has a crush on a girl. He acts nice and friendly to melt the ice. He asks her out on a date. He hears women complain all the time about creepy, aggressive or insensitive guys. He doesn’t want to be that. He wants to better. He doesn’t go for the kiss because he rather get a strong signal from you. Hey pays for everything.
This goes on for weeks, even months. He treats her the way she SAYS she wants be treated. One day she complains to him or ask him for advice about another guy. She plays dumb to noticing he likes her. He maybe brings up he likes her and she acts “surprised” (bullshit). He sticks around thinking she will change her mind. He is a state of self torture, she doesn’t respect him or his feelings, other people don’t respect him. He loses self confidence and hates himself and hates her for lying to him about what she “really wants”’. She jumps in bed with some bad boy who doesn’t do jack for her but he’s exciting. The friend zoned guy finds out this and hates himself even more. But if he complains openly he will look even worse.
So tell me. What’s worse? Being used for sex? Or being used for money, attention, favors, free counseling etc ALL at the expense of your limited chivalry?
The average man? Where did you get that information from? Not going on the offensive genuinely asking because most of the cunts a grew up with and know wouldn't give it a second thought, maybe it's different depending on your country? Like cultural differences?
Cause too many women feel "empowered" and feel like it's ok to charge a man with sexual harassment if the talk to them. Also the fact that some women pull there fake fiminist shit
The default answer is always no, agreeing is the exception. Secondly, she can always stop the date before it happens or not show up at all. It makes no sense to do cold approaches.
Women can ask men out
Not always needed for men to do it
It can be hard and awkward if she rejects him and not guy likes that feeling
Because he is not needing her. He needs those who he could so far.
I get you mean, but the way some dudes come up to these girls is creepy as fuck. Even I notice it.
HOWEVER, this can be rectified if they follow a few guidelines.
I had to learn this stuff myself and it increased my 'yes's'
I'll never approach a woman unless they make eye contact and smile at very least
What a load of shit. Just more of the incel MGTOW mindset.
People seriously need to stop playing the fucking victim.
I would hope men nowadays realize how desperate that is and how pathetic it makes them look.
In my personal experience, it has always been because fear of rejection or that I assume I’ll just get rejected anyways.
Is it worth blows, getting shot, or spending time in prison? Not for me!
Lack of confidence and fear of rejection.
did you read my entire explanation thouhg? yes, lack of confidence and fear of rejection are some of it, but in today's era, its something much deeper
It’s always about “lack of confidence”. Such a dismissive lazy cop out you girls have to resort to. If you want us to understand you better, how about you try to understand us?
While that is sometimes true the more common reason is “the fear of looking like a creep”.
I dont want marriage or kids..
If I happen to meet someone, thats fine
And im going to have marriage and kids, she just has to understand i dont WANT either
Same reason why some women just won't walk up to a man like a real woman and ask her out
We do. I'm not afraid at all to walk up and start talking to a woman. Nothing's going to become of it because I'm married. Maybe that's why it's easier for me.