“Gays are superior to straights” no. Don’t take that advice, that kind of wording is exactly the same that homophobes say but re worded. It’s 2020 and we don’t want segregation or generalisation, so don’t listen to her words. My correction is, find supportive and understanding friends. If they care about you, and support the LGBTQ then there is no issue and that’s what you need the most ♥️
Uh... maybe consider context and nuance. It’s punching up, It’s just a joke (I have a straight friends too). Also, having someone who relates to a significant aspect of your identity and experience is really nice. You seem well intended but please listen to gay people when they speak on gay topics❤️
There was no implication of a joke at all, things can get out of hand and extremism can come from both sides, I’m not oppressed however I have definitely encountered seriousness from SOME (I never generalise) of the lgbtq community that can be considered offensive. I want segregation to stop, I understand you was making a joke now, but I also hope you understand my reasons for not immediately assuming it was one. I will always listen to gay people on topics like these, unless it’s something that is false, I also have gay friends and I love them very much we are very close and I’m grateful to be able to have such a nice friend group. Seems silly and ‘small’ into comparison of what the lgbtq has faced however past friends have called me ‘unseasoned’ ‘straight and boring’ etc, but luckily I was never spiteful enough to assume all lgbtq people are like that, and most are beautiful accepting and inclusive people. Sorry for the mini rant. I just want people to understand eachother better, like I now know your comment was a joke (that one part of it)
Cool, thanks for being understanding and open to different view points. It makes me really appreciate your input. The part that makes it a joke from my pov is when cishet people say “straights are better then gays” it’s an actual, popular, belief that is held and used to against queer people. when queer people say “gays are better than straights” it’s satirical. It’s a critique of oppression. So when your friends called you “straight n boring” and “unseasoned” it isn’t meant to criticize your sexuality, it’s jokes to cope with the actual hatred some straight cis people have for lgbtq+ folks and the violence they face.
Sadly those friends were completely blunt and it wasn’t a joke, we have to stop generalising as these people do exist on both ends. It’s also sadly becoming popular belief that if you’re straight you’re I don't know uncultured or basic. I decided to lose them because of their attitude lol, and now I have many great friends who are bi, gay but also straight
I’m sorry your old friends took it too far. It’s nice to hear you have a good gaggle of gays now. Most cishet people would disagree with the belief that they’re uncultured or basic because of their sexuality and they make up about 95% of the population so I wouldn’t consider it to be a popular belief...
Although straight people make up most of the population, I was implying amongst the lgbtq community it is unfortunately becoming more popular. I see it almost every other day on tik tok and surprisingly from my ex friends too.
I’m the context I was using popular belief, I was referring to how its a popular opinion of a majority and privileged group and how therefore it has power to be used against an oppressed group.
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I was talking amongst the lgbtq community not society as a whole, and we should never ever fight oppression with oppression. We should also never have to learn to take ‘jokes’ simply because the other side dealt with it, that’s a way to make history repeat itself and defeat the whole purpose of coming together as humans.
Yeah, I agree that “oppression shouldn’t be fought with oppression”. What I’m trying to get across is that’s not what’s happening here. It’s the oppressed vs their oppression. The marginalized are critiquing the hatred they face. If you look up “kid killed for being straight” you will have to scour for a story, all between hundreds of stories of lgbtq+ kids being murdered for who they love. If you want to practice good allyship, you can look up what it means to punch up vs punch down in comedy especially in relation to marginalized groups.
I’m already an ally I don’t need to face the same amount of hate, to be able to wand a better more inclusive world. Sorry but that’s just how it is. It’s like punishing Germans for what a generation did ages ago, it’s punishing straight people and generalising them for what other mentally ill crazy people did. It’s just all around wrong, and that will always be my opinion. Sorry. I’ve faced hatred from lgbtq but I won’t tell them to deal with ‘jokes’
It’s not the same. If you want to ignore information and nuance that’s your prerogative. I was only trying to offer you info, not attack you.
I never said you were trying to attack me, however to say it’s ‘ok’ because the lgbtq face more and it’s a ‘joke’ defeats the whole purpose that the lgbtq has been fighting for all these years.
You simply don’t understand
@Hitchhiker42 You first made a controversial statement and then you couldn’t back it up and you started to backtrack. You couldn’t stand with your opinion with boldness. You already lost the argument with her at that pointNow you can’t win this argument and there’s no point in arguing anymore and you were obviously wrong so please stop
I’m not back tracking? I just don’t see a point in continuing that conversation?
Kaytie can shut up She didn't even give a thumb downShe probably thumbed up and is bored so she arguing over nothingUgh
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