Are men these days scared to even try and date the new independent "I can do everything myself" woman?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

For some men who say women never know what they want,... Men these days seem to be guilty of that themselves...
They say they don't want a gold digger, someone using them for their wallet, yet have an issue with an independent woman who works and supports herself 🤔 So which is it 🤷🏼‍♀️
The real problem is when the man was the sole provider, most thought that meant they had a right to control everything, like a woman was their property...
Think that's the real issue... Because otherwise, why have an issue with a partner that wants to help provide for your future, your household, your family together? 🤔
Worked for me and my hubby for 20 years, but maybe that's because he didn't treat me as lesser than just because I was female, we didn't treat each other as property, more a partnership, hence the term partner...
He didn't have that "Me man (beats on chest) you lowly female that must do my bidding"...
A man that wasn't afraid to cook, or help with the chores...
And funny the people on here that call those men wimps or simps or cucks woulda never had the balls to say that to my hubby's face, cuz before he got sick people were very afraid of him till they got to know him...
That's what makes a man, not someone that wants to control someone else or put down someone else...
And until men stop seeing women as just Available pussy (just read the threads on here) why should women do anything for them... Stop expecting things from people and let them do it out of love and respect... But you have to give respect to get respect...🤷🏼‍♀️

[Anonymous]

I don't think a lot of men are honest or self-aware when it comes to this, to be honest. In my opinion, many are intimidated. They just think that saying, "I'm not intimidated, just not attracted" changes that. It doesn't. That's not how psychology works. A lot of men like "less intelligent and more dependent" a lot more than they will admit out loud. And when you think of traditional archetypes of masculinity and socialization, it makes sense. A lot of men value themselves based on ability to protect, provide, and maybe even guide. Dominance. So if you can do it yourself, it threatens their own sense of what they have to offer, or even indicates she is not going to be easy to mold/control. A woman not dependent on relationships for happiness/survival will put up with a lot less than one who is desperate for someone to take care of her. She's often going to be the pickier one too, because happiness isn't just found in a man - she has learned to create it herself. There's also a pretty strong point here about what he offers and brings to the table compared to her and how confident he is in himself with that hand.

In my experience, it's less to do with any ability to do everything on my own (or desire to, rather lolol), and more to do with the different implications of what independence means, specifically intellectually and what I desire. I think being independent changes your "aura" somehow. I think anyone who has spent time focused on developing themselves and focused on accepting and being comfortable with being single or on your own might be able to relate. After you develop that way, people notice it even when you don't. People think that you think you're above them when you live by your own rules and do what you want, if you come across as highly educated or intelligent, if you're comfortable being yourself and living your truth. And some people like it! Yay! It's not even just a gender thing, but it does present a different dynamic there because your friends/associates (unless gay) aren't trying to date you and may benefit from you being the independent one, the leader, the smart one, etc. in ways that might threaten the ego of certain types of men trying to date you.

Having said that, I think a lot of men LOVE independent women. Probably not a majority, but still, many. :) And look, every personality has a down side, or a potentially challenging aspect. I mostly know what mine are and we all should, including men. It's up to whatever crazy nut thinks our challenging traits are worth it or not. Can't be a match for everyone and that's okay!

I think the fact that this is even question speaks for itself, tbh. Think about it. Why would one have a problem with someone ambitious, wanting to live passionately and do what they want on their own terms? Why would anyone have a problem with intelligence, with someone who is an active participant in their own life, working hard for what they want and not just waiting for someone to give it to them? Why would these be negative things just because she's a woman? Why would these things mean she wouldn't be a good partner? Curiouser and curiouser.

[Anonymous]

It's not even that we are intimidated, but I believe it has to do strongly with roles as men and women. Masculine men want feminine women. Women that are independent through feminist teachings, more power to you, can do what they want, but we ultimately don't want to be with them in the long run.

Women that tend to be like this have high standards and expectations of their partners and will always be searching for better guys who fit their criteria, but they are few and far in between. Now women want guys either on their level or higher than them, but that is difficult because more women have higher education than men these days since we either drop out of college, don't go to college, or decide to go into trades or blue collar work. They don't see men like that as high value or to their standards because they don't make as much as them, even though a lot of them do well for themselves (worked blue collar since I got out of college). These women are more masculine than anything and are living like how men do, and that is not attractive in the long run. These are the women you want as friends or business partners.

Men want women that are feminine, submissive and let them make the decisions and lead. They don't want a woman who is masculine, stubborn and in your face all the time with the "we are doing it my way" deal. We might as well just marry and date another dude at the end of the day. I already know this answer is going to get a fair amount of hate, but I know there are many that agree with what I said.

[Aethereal]

I believe it depends. You can't use "strong, independent woman" to encompass all women that can take care of themselves, know what they want, and can pursue their own happiness without depending on others for it.

The problem when it comes to relationships is that some of these women (actually, many men as well) fail to remember that a partner is not another person to compete against, one-up, or assert dominance over. You are a team and are equals. Independence can exist without arrogance.

Some fail to realize that a relationship is about shifting priorities and mutual happiness. When a partner is far too keen on independence, it communicates that you will never be a priority to them, and their happiness is more important than yours (which in turn implies that compromise and consideration will be sorely lacking in the relationship). This inevitably turns the relationship into a competition, which I think is unhealthy. Not many guys would want to be in such an arrangement. And I doubt that many women are okay with it either (unless they are perhaps "winning")

Not all independent women are like this. But the ones that are have encouraged the stereotype that this is what an independent woman is like. A guy like me wants an "us against the world" relationship, not to play a mere supporting role, or that of a "simp".

[AmandaYVR]

It doesn't really matter the state of the world.
Some men will complain about how dependent women are. Some will complain about how independent they are.

We need each other. Some of us like each other, and we interact not out of necessity, but because we offer and give things to each other, from a place of graciousness. And because it's simply fun.

The answer is finding a balance between giving and taking, needing each other but not being entirely dependent. Doesn't seem so difficult to me.

[ManOnFire]

I appreciate women who have your standard confidence and independence, who can think for themselves and know how to get a job, make life decisions, etc. But I'm not into your 'basic bitch' types whose self-worth and existence is built entirely on their college degree, money, and career.

And honestly, why would I want a woman who is so big on being independent and needing to declare it? Does she want me to know that or does she want herself to know it? Why would I want a woman who sees me as something she doesn't have to have but can if she wants? Am I like a hundred dollar dress she sees in a window that she doesn't need but can get it because she wants to?

Relationships are about two people seeing each other as important for their lives, and that your existence matters to each other. But as it stands, for independent women, men aren't something they "need," men are just play things that we should be honored we can even be with such women.

[Cynicaldreamer]

Don't mind me, I'm just here to roll my eyes and silently judge people-

I already know what most men are going to say so I'm keeping my mouth shut... for now at least.

[MzAsh]

Though being independent is absolutely important and has been a key factor in my own marital bliss, there is a such thing as overdoing it. I’ve had male clients tell me that when a woman wants him to do nothing for her because she can do it all, he doesn’t know where to fit in or what to offer than she can’t just obtain herself. They struggle to keep up. In reality, men want to work to please a woman they love. They need to know how they qualify and bring value to her. Ladies, don’t be afraid to sit back and let him do some of the legwork. Let him show you what he’s made of. He wants to.

[Saturnxox]

What should they be scared for?
Next to being able to cook, clean and make babies we probably work as well.
We have more hobbies, interests and more goals in life.
The only thing is that we have more opinions, stronger opinions and are less scared to make those known.
We are the old house wifes but with a little more spice I guess.

[TruthBringer]

The idea of an independent woman is great actually. However, it's often that those who scream this out, or feel the need to portray it are often the ones who are toxic, have an inflated ego, have unrealistic expectations etc.

My girlfriend is independent from me financially and lifestyle wise. She does her things and I do mine. I help her out with things and she helps me out whenever I need help. We work as a team. The only difference is that she recognizes me as the leader in our relationship. And she wouldn't want it any other way (like most women). Does that mean she is my "slave" like some snowflakes here think? Of course not.

So, it you have to be careful with thinking men don't like independent women. From what I have seen it's not the independence that bothers men, it's the attitude and inflated ego is what's turning men off.

[navyrobin]

When I’m getting to know a guy, I would really really want him to tell me whether he likes independence and intelligence in women. I really would love to know asap.


This is because I need to know if I should run for my life and stop wasting my time with a sexist douche. ❤️

[SomeBlondeChick]

But the thing is, is such attitudes are laughable. And ignorant / arrogant on the woman. Just as how it is ignorant & arrogant of a man to think the same.

The average woman as example has no clue about cars or home renovations/maintenance tasks. Unless, like myself, they grew up in a family where male relatives taught them (my father was into buying/flipping houses so I'm very adept with tools/renos & my cousins were into cars so I am quite good, been better than my brother, with cars).

A relationship is a partnership. If someone is too immature to realise that then they should spare the world & date themselves.

[Citizenkirk]

If you can do everything yourself, then what do you need a guy, or even a girl, for, since you seem too be doing fine on your own.
How I was raised, by a feminist mother, a person who believes in equality, not isolationism or volcanism, being capable of doing something doesn't mean that you necessarily have to do everything and if you insist on doing so then you are fine by yourself.
Some people appreciate help even feel absolutely needed to get something done simply because it makes it easier and for companionship.

[JackSmy]

Not at all!! Why would you need to ask that, unless a lot of men were scared? But WHY?
Are those guys afraid of her, THINKING, and having her own feelings, and things she likes, and, wait, OMG, maybe thinking HE would care?
I love those women that are confident, and are being who they are, and I love the time with them, and sharing things, together! Why can't she just say she wants to eat at this place, or suggest that we go, wherever, and be together, and share the experience, be it walking on a beach, or Hiking in a forest?
I love the women that KNOW they are at least my equals, and they tell me where they want to eat, and even, sometimes pay!!
It's an interesting new world, and I can't wait to see how it unfolds when more and more accept that they are at least EQUALS!! :)

[GunnzzNRoses]

No. A strong man has no problem dating a strong woman. That comes with a caveat, however. A man has no problem dating a NATURALLY strong woman. A weak woman who tries to act strong will compensate in many ways that come off as incredibly vapid and annoying. It's like saying, would I want to date a tomboy, or a pickmeisha? One is naturally independent, the other puts up a facade that is easily seen through. The same can be said for men. Naturally strong men are attractive, but men who are envious and try to appear strong come off as assholes. Overall, It's best to stay in your lane and accept where you grew into on the dominance hierarchy.

[Knighted2170]

Okay, I didn't watch the video.

My view is that if they are scared, they are probably scared to even approach most women.

In other cases they probably don't have the tools to navigate and find out what she is looking for. A woman who is independent or has a lot of responsibility (like a CEO) wants to know the guy can measure up, keep up, and handle the demands of her life.

As more women move into these roles guys are going to have to adapt. They are going to need to figure out the "new filtering" women are going to be using to find someone suitable for them.

I don't think the guys are scared (the remaining ones) they just don't have the tools or knowledge to show they can handle an independent woman. The result is they even try.

[purplepoppy]

Have you ever met one of those women? I doubt It's fear that's putting men off, it's the fact they're obnoxious bitches.

[Mia-Wallace]

Do the "I can do everything" women even exist? Or is that just an illusion made by the media? I wonder.

All I know is that I've seen many successful people and almost none of them had such attitude. Maybe men don't like to date immature adults who think they can have it all. It's just a guess, of course.

[MCheetah]

Option C: There's a difference between being "scared" of someone and highly disinterested. If a woman wants to try to be a sh*tty, pseudo-"Alpha Male," because she's insecure and feminism is making her even more insecure in an endless feedback loop, then she certainly doesn't need any man to be with, let alone would ever complain about it, right? So, what's the problem?

(oh right; it's *you.*)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9155473/charlize-theron-shockingly-available-needs-a-man/

(comments:) > "Imagine if some guy had an article written for him, and demanded women step up and date him. She demands it. She's asking like an entitled snob who feels denied something they feel they are owed."

[Anpu23]

I don't think that it's fear. There is a big difference between a woman who has a job and is just doing what they can, and a career woman. In my experience both in the corporate world and when I was dating, which was quiet a while ago, that many women who are ambitious are also tied into other feminist ideals. When one takes on a title the entire connotation of that group comes with it, such as one can't be a national socialist (NAZI) without also being a racist, even if you agree with the original platform of the party and disagree with the race issue that is secondary to the key elements of the group and by taking the one on you are tarred with the other. Feminism has a horrible track record of human rights abuses and miscarriages of justice , a "strong indipendant woman" would also be part and parcel to those abuses.

[Shuri]

No one wants to date someone who makes it clear that their partner isn't needed in their life. For example, my boyfriend and I make about the same yearly. Depending on his over time, he makes a bit more, and I have a degree and he doesn't. Financially, we don't need one another. However, we are very emotional and need that support from one another. We've cried and vented to each other, confided in one another, and confessed things that we never felt comfortable saying to previous partners. The attitude mentioned in that photo, whether it comes from male or female, is what drives people away.

[Akshayjosh]

There is no problem in dating an independent woman, but the problem starts when she starts to confuse the independence with trust and responsibilities she owes to other relationships.
I had a girlfriend who was the same,
She took her decisions by herself, but when I tried to give her a better option, she often threw it in the bin.
Thinking that I was trying to impose my decisions over hers.

Next is when I used to worry about she returning late from office, I used to call her and ask her about her whereabouts, she took that to be nosy and clingy.
That I was trying to track her, I was like give me break that was my concern and care of you keeping well.

We split up way too fast, as I didn't see any point investing my energy and love there. 😊.
Try this with an independent man, and he will surely act differently and will weigh the decisions and responses correctly. 😬.
That's the difference.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Lol. These are not men, these are little boys who can't stand normal women who dont want to be slaves. I am disgusted of these boys who want second mums aka slaves as partner's. If you are scared of non submissive women aka of women who dont want you be your slave, then you need therapy. These hypocritical bastards are also the same idiots who call submissive men simps. Lol they want women to be submissive slaves but also call women feminiazis for prefering submissive men.

[OmNomaly]

If a woman can do for herself I have no issues with it.
To me it means that she was raised without gender roles, although some things can still be considered more emotionally sensitive or more masculine.
If a woman could do things for herself, frankly it'd be a turn on.
We would both be able to do whatever we wanted to do within reason of the guidelines to our set relationship.
One thing I have been against and I make sure to follow through with myself.
If I am in a relationship with someone (Primarily towards the beginning before I get to know friends and things) I will not hang out one on one with the opposite sex.
It helps to build trust first.

[SpeshalK19977]

I dunno what that means, females are the same now as they were back in the 2000s in my opinion, I think it’s jus an illusion or lie that they’re now super independent,
Like back in 2000, they get on with life and do as they please, same as men do, no one helps one another more than than any ever have, nothing’s changed

What kinda stuff do u mean they do by their self anyway? Like putting a lightbulb in their self or installing a cooker (basically a mans job)?
I don’t think I’ve seen many of these girls, so not bothered, cos it’s only a small majority of butch lesbians

[Kaazsz]

Why are men scared? I get a super crush on girls when I find out not only is she beautiful, but she’s smart as hell and has a decent job like a nurse or some other college degree type job. And when we have conversations she actually knows what I’m talking about and we can talk about interesting shit like philosophy science and really any topic.


She makes her own money and I don’t have to buy her nothin! Good lol. Thank god. She can buy me stuff instead!


And I’ll reward her with good fucking. Besides it’s not that hard to please a woman. Stuff her full of food, and stuff her full of dick, and you got a happy woman in my opinion.

[Zealashton]

Brainwashed sjws NPCs everywhere what the hell is this world coming to. Like oh my fucking god. There's two quotes that come to my mind. 1 is. Stupid questions receive stupid answers. Or maybe that's how it should go The other one is. Arguing with a moron is fruitless they will beat you with experience

[slatyb]

Not at all. Confident accomplished men aren't afraid of a confident accomplished woman. It's the overgrown boys who can't handle a confident woman.

I don't want to be with the woman who can't manage without me. I want to be with the woman who has a choice, and chooses to be with me.

[Jjpayne]

I am partly so... i want a girl that can acknowledge when she could use help rather than push to do everything herself. I don't mind independence. I would love that but let's say she needs to help her family paint a house or she had to move, I'd like to be invited to help her do it

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Being independent and intelligence is fine untill it becomes pride and then arrogance
Bc they get superiority complex which makes someone feel entitled same goes with men but women express it more like they want to prove it and make you acknowledge but if it was they knew they are intelligent and and with right attitude their work or behaviour will automatically shine and there are such women as well who don't think they have to be like men to beat men at there own game so if someone knows to balance ibtellegince and compassion then it's fine and it's just my opinion it doesn't mean I am insulting or saying others are wrong i believe in compassion more than intelligence

[Phoenix98]

It's got nothing to do with being scared or intimidated. I just have no interest being the kind of person I don't want to be with.

Those type of women don't intimidate or frighten me they annoy me, they turn me off and they stress me out when I have to deal with them. And I'm just not willing to put myself in that kind of situation where I'm gonna be miserable all the time.

[J2ohhhhh]

Nobody is independent we are living on eachother's services. I'm dependent on grocery stores, on manufacturers of all sort of products, on my hairdresser, on my mobile phone network supplier. On the guys who make electricity running. I'm scared of someone who is ignorant enough to call herself independent in such an interdependent society.

[AD240pCharlie]

It really does seem to be a huge difference between the responses of men and women here. Men don't understand what women mean when they say "independence" and women don't understand what men mean when they say they don't like it.
Men want to feel needed. That doesn't mean that we don't want you to have a career or a life outside the relationship or follow our every order (like a lot of women here seem to THINK it means), it just means that we want to feel like you can rely on us. Let us help you out, bring you gifts and make you feel safe. You can do that without being "a slave".

[Anonymous]

It’s not that I oppose it at all, it’s just that these women are typically very hoity-toity and entitled. It seemingly comes with the territory. They are “independent and empowered” women, so “only the best for me” because “I deserve it” and “I had a hot guy hit on me once” so “nobody of ‘lesser variety’ allowed.”

Seems to be that way. Women are very selective already, and that’s ok, but honestly it’s like, I’m just trying to find someone reasonably attractive and have a conversation. Get to know somebody, and I can’t even say “hello” 90% of the time without getting brushed off.

[Anonymous]

Scared? No.
But do we want to date these angry proto feminists? Not when there's better ladies out there, no.

Fembots, listen up. If you're standing on your pedestal proclaiming that the reason you're single is because men are afraid of you? That's a lie you're telling yourself, to protect your ego from the real reason - which is that men don't want to date you. You're not attractive to them, probably through personality but not necessarily. And if you snort derisively at that, and are about to claim that men are only interested in physical attributes so your personality can't be the issue... that just confirms that it is.

[honestB12]

Afraid... And new? ... My whole dating career consisted of showing girls like that they will die old and alone unless you count the 9 cats
Nothing like breaking in a new colt but it will break eventually. Unscrew that strap on some time and allow yourself to be swept off your feet. You might even like it😘

[guesswhoseback]

These women are only “independent” because they live in an advanced digitized society that negates gender differences. If there was ever a serious break down in civilization things would go back to what they used to be.

Not to say the female gains in the workplace is a bad thing. It’s a really good thing. But this feminist attitude that “us women rose up and made it all on our own” is disillusioned self serving bs.

There are two main reasons women have succeeded: sympathetic men who supported feminism and a modern society that requires less physical manual labor. But even the foundations of the internet was developed by men. Women are just succeeding on platforms that were invented and developed by men.

I don’t hate women and I really want a real equal society. But there “modern” feminists are just going off on conceited hate. They have issues that have absolutely nothing to do with “patriarchy” but they just want the cop out of blaming someone else.

[Syrian_survivor]

If by that you mean self-centered women who think they're better than everyone else because they "rose to greatness in a male-biased society" so they aim to have their revenge by being basic karen bitches and showing the whole world and literally everyone how "great, brave, and hard-working" they are

Yeah they can fuck right off lmao

And i wouldn't say scared, just repulsed, ew

[AFellowWeeb]

the problem is that nowadays an ''independent woman'' is a condescending brat, thats not even that much independent tbh, often latches on to other people treating them like slaves, till this day i only met one girl that was the so called ''real independent woman'', cause she was not condescending, but had that vibe of '' im here'' even without saying any word, everyone would allways listen to what she had to say without her even asking them to, and in return, she was polite with everyone

[Yads_Is_Back]

Dating somebody with that "I can do everything myself" attitude is a train to failure. Somebody who thinks that is not going to ever see much value in you, and if they don't think they need you then ultimately you're wasting your time because they're never going to put you first.

[InferiorElegy]

No, not at all. It's more on the lines of why date a girl who's going to always remind you that you're completely expendable and replaceable because she's independent and doesn't need you. Why would any guy date a female like that?

Every "independent female" I personally know, has that exact mentality and they love to show off that side of themselves and then blame men for them being single and here's the kicker, every single one of them I know, is single.

[Guanfei]

Scared? No. Just annoyed by the current state of mind of women considering men as inferior and replaceable. Women who will date you while reminding you constantly that they can and will throw you away anytime, or cheat on you because they're "free" to do whatever they want and you don't have a say on it.

[Hunter7754]

No. These are just self proclaimed strong women, not much different than self proclaimed nice guys that believe their niceness (and not their narcissism and entitlement) is what drives women away.

Strong women dont feel the need to let everyone know they're strong.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't say "scared", that word comes from that exact type of women. It's a word that's mean to serve their ego. Really, what it is, is a red flag, it's an obnoxious attitude reflective of inner flaws. We're a social species, we're a cooperative species. Just as there are no ants without an ant colony, we need each other -- so the whole emphasis on independence and disregard for needing others only speaks to their foolishness. They actively push away from men and then act surprised when men aren't interested in them.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

I dunno about other men, but personally I don't have the time or interest to be with a woman who isn't her own person who does her own things. I want a partner, not somebody to take care of.

[9Livezzz]

No. It's because relationships simply don't work now days. Usually men have a lot more to lose at the end of a relationship so it's not worth the risk to me. Picture it like this, now this is just a guess but I'd say only about 20% relationships actually last. Now if you were about to go skydiving and there was a 80% chance that your parachute won't open, would you jump out of the plane?

[Unit1]

I don't know about other men but i personally prefer these modern and independent women.
i don't want a womanchild to babysit.

[Lite3000]

I definitely think there's a way a woman can be very confident that's really attractive to me. There's a feminine way to do it. If she has ambition and knows she can do a lot without much help from me, but also truly appreciates when I want to help her, that's great. She should also support me as well.

She shouldn't be rude about people wanting to help her.

[Cherokeehp]

Only the weak ones. Just cause I CAN do everything by myself doesn’t mean I WANT to. We still enjoy romance, sex, and companionship. Any man who is scared of an independent woman is simply a coward.

[Lliam]

I prefer smart, plucky women who do their best to make their way in the world and not be dependent on others. That doesn't mean they can't be tender, loving and feminine.

[Not_Average]

Those kinds of women are extremely unattractive. We’re not scared. We just don’t like the dynamic of feeling like we’re replaceable and useless within our role in a relationship.

[lokeshdh000]

I would only want an independent partner. Who has existence without me, and she can take care of everyone in the absence of me. I would want a woman with her full potential and love.

[wankiam]

so i have been dating for like 40 years and women like that would make up 99.9 percent of the women i have dated in the same way i dont have any friends who are needy either

[Prof_Don]

It’s the stank attitude some women possess with this independent mindset.


Masculine men like to feel as if their masculine is needed and desired. Fellas there is NOTHING wrong with wanting to be wanted. It’s natural.

[Barbaric]

They're not scared. Whenever men don't like something people accuse them of being scared or intimidated. What they're doing is indirectly calling those men cowards.

News flash: men can dislike something without being scared of it. The women who speak like that are simply unattractive, and it's mainly about their attitude rather than the fact that they're independent.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

Honestly I find people like that tend to have arrogant and inflexible attitudes, regardless whether they're male or female. They're like the kid at school who wanted all the toys to themselves, so other kids stopped inviting them to play altogether.

[worldscolide]

I am not afraid of an independent women.. 9 times out of 1 though, the ones that tout that they are independent, are also insufferable bitches not deserving of attention. The ones that are truly independent dont brag about it like that.

[Avicenna]

Not scared, but many of the women fitting that profile have impossible expectations and find any excuse to reject a guy or kick him to the curb, it’s simpler and easier to do a hookup in many cases.

[lilyanony1]

I'm just here observing. I'm a woman so since this wasn't addressed to me I won't pass a comment unless you want me to.

[cth96190]

It is not that I am scared. It is that I no longer have tolerance for the bullshit, nor do I want that level of legal and financial liability in my life.
It really is sleeping with the enemy.

[genericname85]

dude... that's exactly the description of my dream woman xD

[Sparda20xx]

Soem Men: There's nothing wrong with that type of woman, Its just not my type
Some Women: that's because your weak, have insecurities etc.
Me: Don't we all have types?

[Tomsta]

There is a fine line between the person who can handle themselves but lets other people help when they need to and the ones (like me) who have a very hard time trusting anyone enough so the "I can handle myself" is a coping and defensive mechanism because for a large part of their lives they haven't had the luxury of being able to rely on other people

[jshm2]

No. Most are just not willing to go into a relationship with such a Karen type.