As a conservative white guy do I actually still have a future with white women? Why has it been such a constant struggle interacting with them?

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I’ll be honest. Most fellow conservative white guys I know are single. Concerning the ones my age at least. And they always have been to my knowledge.

But I almost feel guilty giving up on white women so early on because they are the only option I currently have. And my most available one as well.

But I want a sense of fulfillment in my life. I want to feel valued and loved because I’ve become so used to being ignored. I want to have kids and reflect my love onto others.

I don’t know why but I just find that white women are so distant.

They tend to be dry conversationally whenever I try interacting with them.
They never show any interest.

They don’t ever really pay attention to me and they’ll often falsely lead me on.

I’m just your average decent guy and I’m not a complete pushover or simp for them. But they’ll often still try taking advantage.

I’ve had my heart broken quite a few times.
But I almost feel discouraged from trying by the number of white women I’ve seen resorting to slut culture and abandoning relationships so early. It’s as if they are never quite satisfied with what they have.

They almost intimidate me in a sense because they tend to be so unpredictable. And very high maintenance as well. Many of them will impose numerous demands on their boyfriends and expect us to be satisfied with very little in return.

There’s this sense of distrust and uncertainty I’ve developed towards them. The comparatively high divorce rates in the US really don’t help either. Its become an accepted part of our culture. The traditional family unit is no longer valued in the way it still is by other cultures.

Besides they are almost never direct with their truest feelings. They expect guys to almost just know without them telling.

Maybe this just comes as a maturity thing but I’ve found that white girls are just terribly inconsistent and unpredictable. They often like to falsely lead guys on and send mixed signals which just adds to my anxiety.

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It’s just every time I interact with latina women they actually show interest.

Like I’ll say something to them in Spanish and they’ll get excited. Even though I’m an absolute gringo at the core. They seem to like that I’m authentic and unapolagetic.

I hold no insecurities. I know who I am and I’m happy going with it.

hellionthesagereborn · Accepted Answer

Find a more traditional woman and also diversify the women you go after. First be confident, you are you, don't apologize for it, you can be nice but nicely disagree with them if you disagree with them. What I mean by that is when your talking and something comes up and they have an opinion you don't agree with don't hold back, disagree. You don't have to be rude about it but a lot of times we try to downplay our stance, and that is exactly what you don't want to do.

Be unabashedly you, if they don't like it, fuck em (not literally, they aren't good enough for that). Learn to banter as well, and talk a little shit. This works well with women because whether women like to admit it or not, they are biologically wired to look for a man who will be a leader, she wants you to lead, she wants you to protect her, so you can't be looking to her for approval. This is why so many women fall for assholes, because they mistake confidence and self assuredness with callousness which is not the same (good women raised in good homes know the difference and those are the women you should go after).

Now what I mean by shit talking is not to just belittle some one but to be able to be the butt end of a joke and also to flip it on them at the same time. For example I had a female manager start talking shit (jokingly) about me being fat, my response was, "Your just jealous that I have more curves then you.". I said it, but I had the twinkle in my eye and a smile on my lips, so it had no sting to it. This is what I mean, you can't be afraid to push back (not saying your simping, but your probably not fully leading either).

I'd also recommend looking up videos (if for nothing else then because they are fascinating) about charisma (I think charisma on command is a good one) because it gets down into the psychology of human behavior and body language etc. not just for dealing with women but in general interactions (I personally just find it fascinating how much we rely on body language without even knowing it and how our body language can effect our own thinking (act small, feel small, act big feel big etc.). So that might help.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I'm a Leftie... Do you think it's easier for us? Maybe. But being Leftist is not enough, since with them it's like you're walking on thin ice... If you say something that sounds "strange," they're going to tell everyone that you're a Trumptard in the closet and pick on you.

So you already got it, right? In their minds, being a Conservative is abominable, but so is not being woke enough! If you wanna date them, you have to resort to wokefishing!

I wokefish too. I'm all for eating the rich, raising taxes, medicare4all, free college etc. But... I don't support LGBTQ causes, BLM, open borders, and not doing this is seen as a kind of "heresy" these days, especially by white girls. They're still churchy girls, the only difference is that wokeness has become their church. So I pretend I give a rat ass about BLM and the LGBTQ...

If you refuse to wokefish and wanna date white girls, you're in trouble. On the bright side, your political representatives are not worthy of your loyalty, so it's not a big deal if you "reject" your beliefs. But I'm not here to judge it anyway.

Then there are another problems about dating white girls, I'll tell you the ones that I hate the most:

1) They hold white men to higher standards. We are demanded more, we judged more, we are expected to "improve our lives" in spectacular ways. Whereas a 6/10 black guy just need not to beat on his white girlfriend to win her heart.

2) Except about politics, they're too wishy-washy. They never know what they want, they always have to "find themselves" (what a ridiculous, bourgeois idea), they're rarely enthusiastic toward people around them.

Do you wanna good advice? Stop caring about politics, consider joining the bodybuilding life, make new friends and FIND A LATINA GIRLFRIEND. The more Latina the better (I mean, the less Americanized/Westernized).

JEndigoBleue · Accepted Answer

If you are a man of any race, you will find a reason to be discontent with the women in your race. Visa versa with women.

Be open to meeting men and women of all races.

I can find a man that I'm attracted to in (personality, character, sexuality, etc) in any race of men. It is not tied to one race of men.

eileen_ruth · Accepted Answer

Most of the white girls I know are liberal? Irl I've never met a conservative white girl. Or a conservative girl. Could be bc my old friends were dumb af though. I don't know, depends on the area I guess. Maybe rural white girls are different?

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I understand that the Caucasian women who surround you may act as you describe but there are other Caucasian women who are more available, accessible, and reasonable.  Where do you meet women?

Anonymous · Answer

I'd say I'm independent with conservative leanings. I live in a liberal state and a pretty liberal area. I don't like extreme identity politics either way. I try to be what I would call "fair." I'm often too liberal for my conservative friends, and way too conservative for my liberal friends because I try to point out some logical fallacy, or they're spreading something that is obviously untrue, and I generally leave the room if a political fight is going to break out. I get bored if a political talk goes on for too long.

I keep my mouth shut because people have become so extreme... I don't want to feel like I'm pandering and I have to jump on some bandwagon just to get work, and I shouldn't have to declare my political leanings to get work.

Perhaps find an area of the country that is more conservative (without going insane about it), if it's a possibility - or at least try to find a group of women who might be more likely to be a better fit politically. Maybe volunteer for a candidate you like... or you might find someone - if you're religious, perhaps find more social things through church, as that can sometimes tend to be more conservative in many areas. That's the best advice I can give for now, because its tough finding anyone if you're generally "different" in politics/religion/hobbies of wherever you live.

WeinersCongo24 · Answer

A lot of girls tend to be weary of conservative guys because of how Trump has been and how he has influenced some of the supporters. A lot of younger women now are liberals. It just really depends. if a person actually loves you, they'll see past your political views and you'll see past her political views.

SomeGuyCalledTom · Answer

Sounds like a culture issue, not a race issue. People are people, most variations in behavior come from a mix of culture, upbringing, personal values etc. My guess is that you probably live in an ultra-liberal area where white girls are more likely to harbour sentiments and behaviors in direct opposition to your more Conservative roots. I don't wanna assume its a political issue per se, but rather, that the culture surrounding you is likely causative to some extent. I know plenty of white girls from different cultures (living in London has the upside of meeting people from all over), and maybe two of them could classify as that kinda "militant RadFem manipulator of men" type. The rest are just nice, fun, intelligent girls I like being around.

Juxtapose · Answer

Dude, I'm a guy who scores in the bottom left of the political compass test but this wokeness crap isn't even liberal, it's some twisted version of the left.

I consider myself an old-school liberal and I probably have more in common with you than the average Democrat.

Don't fold, don't let these pussies censor you.

Egirl28 · Answer

I am a conservative white women they do exist! have you looked into voluntary opportunities with conservative organizations or churches there are likely to be more white conservative women there.

psychoticanimaIIover · Answer

Conservatism works directly against women’s interests and the interest of minorities, so while
I’m sure you will be able to find yourself a woman if you look hard enough, you might want to avoid those that finished high school or went to college. Stick to those who don’t really involve themselves in politics and you’ll have a much better chance of getting a woman to settle for you.

Anonymous · Answer

I met a lot of white liberal whores. There not the only ones, but I wanted none of that. I seek women who share values, but sadly few do these days. I mostly get interest from African American and Asian American Women. Not opposed to any woman, but I stick with beliefs.

Amazingworld92 · Answer

Bro have you tough about dating a girl from the south for example Texas? Southern woman attend to be conservative. Most woman in Texas are all republican. You should try it bro. I hope my answer is good help for you.

Anonymous · Answer

Not at all We are in much the same boat, you and I This looks few in my eyes isn't going to be one with a nuclear family or even a relationship The white male genocide is coming

es20490446e · Answer

You are anxious just because you are trying to convince who doesn't want to get convinced.

Your job dating is not to seduce (only), but to qualify your prospect. To see if they want the same as you, and you like them as a person BEFORE getting emotionally too involved with them.

Avicenna · Answer

I think the advice given by @Egirl28 is excellent, but at the end of the day, what matters is your happiness. Find a woman who's compatible and who appreciates you.

Iknowbestgirls · Answer

Because conservatives are shitty people that only want to regress. In a country like ours that has no place here anymore. I'm not going to tell you to change your views be you should seriously re evaluate what your views are and see if they actually coinsideb with women today. I guarantee you that women don't like men that try to control everything. Because that's what conservatives do.

BeMuse · Answer

If you want to date, then go out and meet new people. It's pretty simple. Politics are generally pretty taboo conversation wise until you already know someone well.

Ms_Vanderquack · Answer

Huh, openly shitty people have a hard time making romantic connections with people huh? Never could have seen that coming.

Anonymous · Answer

Paint yourself in melted chocolate, you will have a good opportunity in changing your life then 😜

007kingifrit · Answer

guys you're age are always single you have no job or career

Anonymous · Answer

I don't know? Fuck one and see if she sticks around. It's the best you can do with them.

jahaims · Answer

That is not why you are struggling

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