I think they're hurting themselves the most in the end and the longer they let it affect them, the worse it will be. There are people on this planet who can thrive alone but that's generally not those who were in relationships and got hurt. At the end of the day, everyone else will move on in life and they will stay where they are because no career or hobby can replace a romantic, human relationship and family.
by the way, this applies to both men and women though I see this problem more with men.
You're not doing anyone a favour because you chose to marry and reproduce. You're hurting your potential children if you chose to reproduce without securing a stable relationship first. At the end of the day who pays the most if you don't get to reproduce? And who pays if you do just to have the child in a broken up family? The person who hurt you will move on and have all of those things while you rot. If your experience has been that traumatic then seek out help and healing because you only have one life and it's incredibly sad being 65+ and alone.
Same as women. Hopefully they know not all women are the same, the same way not all men are. One day they'll find the right person, and they'll finally understand, some people are amazing.
Well at some point, at some point marish01, you have to critically examine life and ask the vital question...
"What makes me think it is going to be DIFFERENT this time?"
That goes for both guys and girls.
That is a sad attitude you describe. I tend to think it comes from an attitude that it can't be me, it must be somebody else fault. That would make you bitter.
I don't really think about them... unless they get in my face and use their failed relationship as an excuse to be sexist asshole or use it as an excuse to be a manipulative womanizer. I really don't care about the consensual adult relationships of other or the lack there of
It's not a matter of can or can't. People have free will, and I don't get to dictate how people live their lives, but as I said, unless they get in my face and use their failed relationships as an excuse to be a sexist asshole or manipulative, I don't care about the consensual adult relationships of others or the lack there of.
They're valid. I once gave up too for a while there but got back into it because I knew it had to go right some time. I hope the men and women who gave up will give it another chance.
Listen, Abuse is abuse. I don't like cheating, women seem to not care about my feelings at the end of relationships. I've had one ex be nice, and I had one ex who knew a guy who stole a guitar from my bed room. That means either someone was watching the house, or she let them in. She stole my mothers cell phone, cheated on me because I gained weight, gas light me by telling me I was the one cheating and constantly looking at my phone. So much. Women promise to be nice and then boom men screw up
I think it's important to learn lessons from bad experiences. It doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't do it again, just be smarter about it next time.
Well dating is really bad even for normal guys so I can't really blame them. I'm autistic and still trying, 33 years old and not much luck yet. If it wasn't for this burning desire in me to have a mate I would have given up a long time ago.
I've tried and tried and tried. Till I got so fed up of trying. It's a 2 way road! It's so hard to get a date period. And then if I do get a date, have to impress them enough to get more dates. And pay for everything. Dating gets depressing. What's the point. I guess if it naturally happens some how, great!
Trauma is valid. If they’ve given up on those things due to bad experiences in the past, then I can’t blame them. If you want those things and he doesn’t, then you should move on and not waste time trying to change him.
I think those people are letting new opportunities go to waste. Yes sometimes life can suck and you will have the misfortune of going through tough break ups or just tough relationships. But that's no reason to give up.
I think many people have a moment in their lives where they think extreme thoughts like that, but generally they fade away in a few years.
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They probably saved themselves, dating for men is like being dropped on a planet made of fecal matter and rotten garbage with 1 microscopic diamond hidden somewhere within it and a few fake diamonds.
Lucky for me, I found that microscopic diamond so unfortunately for other guys, there is only rotten garbage, fecal matter and fake diamonds left, so it's best to give up
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Nobody is forced to date or marry. If they believe their lives are more fulfilling without a partner, I don't see the problem. Most do not want to live their lives that way.
Unfortunately I understand where they are coming from.
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I am like that one. I had abusive parents, who physically and emotionally tortured me for years and restricted me to talk to girls. After I left I met a girl in masters who took advantage of me saying she liked me. I am still a virgin and women hate guys like me. I have never seen love in my life. I have given up on women and spend my time studying/working and doing voulenteer work.
I can understand it. I had a string of bad relationships and I was going to give up dating for a while maybe forever. Ironically I met my future wife the very next day.
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I think they're hurting themselves the most in the end and the longer they let it affect them, the worse it will be. There are people on this planet who can thrive alone but that's generally not those who were in relationships and got hurt. At the end of the day, everyone else will move on in life and they will stay where they are because no career or hobby can replace a romantic, human relationship and family.
by the way, this applies to both men and women though I see this problem more with men.
You're not doing anyone a favour because you chose to marry and reproduce. You're hurting your potential children if you chose to reproduce without securing a stable relationship first. At the end of the day who pays the most if you don't get to reproduce? And who pays if you do just to have the child in a broken up family? The person who hurt you will move on and have all of those things while you rot. If your experience has been that traumatic then seek out help and healing because you only have one life and it's incredibly sad being 65+ and alone.
Feminazi.
Same as women. Hopefully they know not all women are the same, the same way not all men are. One day they'll find the right person, and they'll finally understand, some people are amazing.
I have not met any women who were not like that.
Well at some point, at some point marish01, you have to critically examine life and ask the vital question...
"What makes me think it is going to be DIFFERENT this time?"
That goes for both guys and girls.
That is a sad attitude you describe. I tend to think it comes from an attitude that it can't be me, it must be somebody else fault. That would make you bitter.
I don't really think about them... unless they get in my face and use their failed relationship as an excuse to be sexist asshole or use it as an excuse to be a manipulative womanizer. I really don't care about the consensual adult relationships of other or the lack there of
What about women?
Can they be sexist assholes because of their bad past experiences with men?
It's not a matter of can or can't. People have free will, and I don't get to dictate how people live their lives, but as I said, unless they get in my face and use their failed relationships as an excuse to be a sexist asshole or manipulative, I don't care about the consensual adult relationships of others or the lack there of.
I meant if you are okay with it. I wanted to know if you condemn only bitter men
unless they get in my face and use their failed relationships as an excuse to be a sexist asshole or manipulative, I don't care
They're valid.
I once gave up too for a while there but got back into it because I knew it had to go right some time.
I hope the men and women who gave up will give it another chance.
Listen, Abuse is abuse. I don't like cheating, women seem to not care about my feelings at the end of relationships. I've had one ex be nice, and I had one ex who knew a guy who stole a guitar from my bed room. That means either someone was watching the house, or she let them in. She stole my mothers cell phone, cheated on me because I gained weight, gas light me by telling me I was the one cheating and constantly looking at my phone. So much. Women promise to be nice and then boom men screw up
I think it's important to learn lessons from bad experiences.
It doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't do it again, just be smarter about it next time.
Hard to blame them, and there is a lot of bad women nowadays.
As for the update, a woman is like a lock, so she usually more responsible for bad choices.
Well dating is really bad even for normal guys so I can't really blame them. I'm autistic and still trying, 33 years old and not much luck yet. If it wasn't for this burning desire in me to have a mate I would have given up a long time ago.
I've tried and tried and tried. Till I got so fed up of trying. It's a 2 way road! It's so hard to get a date period. And then if I do get a date, have to impress them enough to get more dates. And pay for everything. Dating gets depressing. What's the point. I guess if it naturally happens some how, great!
Trauma is valid. If they’ve given up on those things due to bad experiences in the past, then I can’t blame them. If you want those things and he doesn’t, then you should move on and not waste time trying to change him.
I think those people are letting new opportunities go to waste. Yes sometimes life can suck and you will have the misfortune of going through tough break ups or just tough relationships. But that's no reason to give up.
I think many people have a moment in their lives where they think extreme thoughts like that, but generally they fade away in a few years.
They probably saved themselves, dating for men is like being dropped on a planet made of fecal matter and rotten garbage with 1 microscopic diamond hidden somewhere within it and a few fake diamonds.
Lucky for me, I found that microscopic diamond so unfortunately for other guys, there is only rotten garbage, fecal matter and fake diamonds left, so it's best to give up
Nobody is forced to date or marry. If they believe their lives are more fulfilling without a partner, I don't see the problem. Most do not want to live their lives that way.
They're eventually going to change their mind once they find the one.
Unfortunately I understand where they are coming from.
I am like that one. I had abusive parents, who physically and emotionally tortured me for years and restricted me to talk to girls. After I left I met a girl in masters who took advantage of me saying she liked me. I am still a virgin and women hate guys like me. I have never seen love in my life. I have given up on women and spend my time studying/working and doing voulenteer work.
Sorry to hear that you've been through hell.
I hope your life gets much better.
I can understand it. I had a string of bad relationships and I was going to give up dating for a while maybe forever. Ironically I met my future wife the very next day.
I don't think that is being very rational. Both done by men and by women. But we have to respect people's decisions.