Depends on how you say it. I personally don't have a problem for paying for the whole dinner. Split up is the way to go for many women.
But if you imply that I'm a gold digger, which your question details do, then yeah — any woman would be pissed. It means you are arrogant enough to think that women would chase you for your hot wallet.
Hint : they won't.
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Did you see the other opinions here?
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The way you've worded it out, yes that's what you get
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Gold diggers can move along and find themselves a sugar daddy.
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In what universe your words are not offensive?
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Offensive is relative. As is everything else.
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Says the offender
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Right. I suppose you consider all men to be rapists because men are looking at women. Stay safe.
If a woman planned this in her head... and she feels special... and you do that then you blew up a potential who was imaging the possibility already. She's not special OR even regular after all. It's damn Stupid...
Yeah, fair enough. Some of them act like we aren't allowed to have standards but its good to see there are many adequate ladies still. I know of ways ( other than sex) to make girls happy. Kinda wish you could see how i do it.
Ultimately it's because women aren't with men for who they are, but what they can provide... and you aren't providing a free meal...
When a woman is attracted to a man enough, she won't even feel the need to date. She will be with him at his convenience anywhere... generally dating is for the men she finds less attractive where he either needs to warm her up, prove himself, or she will just use him for a free meal. There are exceptions of course...
It's been like that for a long time.. this needs to change, if they want equality then they gotta want it all the time in every different situation.. There's nothing wrong with you, you don't have to pay for them just because they have different genitals than yours! 🤷🏻♂️
@asker Do you tell them at the time you ask them out that you expect them to split the bill? Or do wait for the bill to come to the table and just spring it on her?
I find it mind boggling that some guys don't realise how wrong it is to tell a woman, "we will split the bill." If you ever split a bill on a date, it should be the woman's suggestion. Not a mans
I prefer dutch on a first date because from experience if he pays he expects "dessert" as theyve called it and I'm not a dinner hooker
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I prefer it your way as well. These degenerates have their own degenerate definitions, that i refuse to recognize. So for me that means dessert is dessert, not sex.
I would say if you ask someone out you foot the bill. However if someone is gonna get very mad at you over it and insult you, thats them showing their true colors so good on you for dodging bullets.
you're weeding out some trash for sure but also weeding out every single respectable woman. No woman worth a damn would split the bill. Just like no woman worth a damn would give her number out at a bar.
Their acting entitled because there used to guys paying for everything. It's not like you didn't tell them. You said something ahead of time and they still went on the date. It's okay to do that.
Common reaction for a gold digger her money is her money your money is her money equal rights fine as long as their equal but take a closer look equal rights means every is in their favor Take a closer look
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Depends on how you say it. I personally don't have a problem for paying for the whole dinner. Split up is the way to go for many women.
But if you imply that I'm a gold digger, which your question details do, then yeah — any woman would be pissed. It means you are arrogant enough to think that women would chase you for your hot wallet.
Hint : they won't.
Did you see the other opinions here?
The way you've worded it out, yes that's what you get
Gold diggers can move along and find themselves a sugar daddy.
In what universe your words are not offensive?
Offensive is relative. As is everything else.
Says the offender
Right. I suppose you consider all men to be rapists because men are looking at women.
Stay safe.
Happy assuming
If a woman planned this in her head... and she feels special... and you do that then you blew up a potential who was imaging the possibility already. She's not special OR even regular after all. It's damn Stupid...
Damn right
Yikes, I don't know. I'm someone who gets mad if I'm NOT allowed to go Dutch on a date (unless previously arranged).
Maybe you need to emphasize more that it'll be split? Like, mention it a few times?
didn't i say so?
You never said how many times you tell them. Or what words you use.
Tone and context matters. Communication can be difficult, and setting expectations even harder.
Maybe try being more forceful in your warnings.
For me, on first dates, I've always mentioned it before the date, when we first arrive, and again before we get the bill.
I like your approach of using it to screen out moochers.
Hopefully you find better quality ladies in the future.
Yeah, fair enough. Some of them act like we aren't allowed to have standards but its good to see there are many adequate ladies still. I know of ways ( other than sex) to make girls happy. Kinda wish you could see how i do it.
Ultimately it's because women aren't with men for who they are, but what they can provide... and you aren't providing a free meal...
When a woman is attracted to a man enough, she won't even feel the need to date. She will be with him at his convenience anywhere... generally dating is for the men she finds less attractive where he either needs to warm her up, prove himself, or she will just use him for a free meal. There are exceptions of course...
I'm willing to bet that this never happened and that you couldn't even get a date.
I am still deciding whether to remove your opinion or let it stay here so others can see your ignorance.
you know its true. thats why you're so mad
Yeah, i'm keeping you. Go on be more embarassing.
It's been like that for a long time.. this needs to change, if they want equality then they gotta want it all the time in every different situation..
There's nothing wrong with you, you don't have to pay for them just because they have different genitals than yours! 🤷🏻♂️
What kind of women do you date? Almost all the ones I date have offered to split the bill without me saying anything.
But then most of them have successful careers.
It's random, really. I don't know what type they are until that moment.
True it's probably not something you would discuss beforehand in most cases.
omg, I feel bad for them honestly. as a woman, I always pay my own food when im out on dates. the guy is not entitled to pay anything for me.
Mighty respect. Girlfriend material.
thanks :)
With that mentality By the next date i might consider bringing a small token for someone just like you.
ooh I love gifts!
It would be Well deserved and i would expect nothing in return 😁
@asker Do you tell them at the time you ask them out that you expect them to split the bill? Or do wait for the bill to come to the table and just spring it on her?
I like you already
Sweet. That wasn't hard 😊 likewise i like girls just like you. We are in it for the real deal.
@DaveJord i let them know in advance. I dont like unpleasant surprises.
Ahhh... then your good. You know what you're looking for and that's cool.
I find it mind boggling that some guys don't realise how wrong it is to tell a woman, "we will split the bill." If you ever split a bill on a date, it should be the woman's suggestion. Not a mans
I prefer dutch on a first date because from experience if he pays he expects "dessert" as theyve called it and I'm not a dinner hooker
I prefer it your way as well.
These degenerates have their own degenerate definitions, that i refuse to recognize. So for me that means dessert is dessert, not sex.
Isn't it just better to find a date that y'all could do for free if you have that big of a problem paying?
Indeed
Girls like to be taken care of on dates, especially first dates. Well, some do. Others think it’s unfeminist.
I'd imagine guys feel the same way.
People like nice things being done for them.
The difference is expectation.
I would say if you ask someone out you foot the bill. However if someone is gonna get very mad at you over it and insult you, thats them showing their true colors so good on you for dodging bullets.
Because you don’t get to know them before you go out to dinner 🤷♀️😂
Thats right
You never went on a date for women to call you that.
Come over here and I'll show you
Buy my ticket 😁
Do that yourself. If you want to see it, you'll find it.
You just showed it to me
you're weeding out some trash for sure but also weeding out every single respectable woman. No woman worth a damn would split the bill. Just like no woman worth a damn would give her number out at a bar.
Personally? I don't like to split the bill on dates. Either you pay or I do. If we're just friends, then is ok.
Why does being friends vs more than friends change this?
Their acting entitled because there used to guys paying for everything. It's not like you didn't tell them. You said something ahead of time and they still went on the date. It's okay to do that.
Yep. These gold diggers.
Common reaction for a gold digger her money is her money your money is her money equal rights fine as long as their equal but take a closer look equal rights means every is in their favor
Take a closer look
Women who care a lot about money is a huge turn off and very trashy those type of women expect things from men that they can’t do for themselves
Yup. These types are literally selling love.