Why do men assume that just because a woman is very pretty, they are either taken or have many admirers?

[kitty71]

Not necessarily. I mean I had known many beautiful women who always had struggled to date or have boyfriend or seeing guys and they are still single or continue to be single. Physical beauty not always is an advantage and they may had the worst of luck ever in dating, seeing guys or even just for hook ups could be a issue for beautiful women therefore many peopleget surprised or shocked when a gorgeous woman say "Well Im single, and Im not dating or seeing anyone" But then some men are even bold to ask "Ok, you are not dating, you are single, but are you getting laid at least, you are no virgin right? I mean as if getting laid or have sex just like that must be a requirement for single, not taken pretty women who does not want to date but they are beautiful.

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My post was to say that there are beautiful woman out there who are nice girls and still they are single they are not dating or have any guy. Which means that even if you are beautiful that advantage does not mean you have it easy cause you are still single and no guys looking at you or you dating guys easily.

[Anonymous]

I’ll say it how it is. Being good looking and being a women is a curse. Good looking women are only there for guys to hook up with at least in a mans eyes. Most good looking women do have simps chasing them and fuckboys too. You won’t ever find the majority of men trying to connect with women on a personal level. Not in this day and age. Because most men just wanna fuck. Women get showered with attention by the fuckboys and simps and as a result they never improve and find a good quality man. A high quality man on the other hand is not showered with attention and will improve. Also I don’t think this question is fair coming from a gender that doesn't approach as much as men do. A women would do the same damn thing and not approach whilst making assumptions that he is taken. It’s easy to make such questions when you are not the ones approaching as much as men do. How do I know? Because I would ask the same question if I was a women 🤣. With hookups on the rise why would any sane person not think that the good looking person hasn’t been laid or taken. Men understand how trash men can be. So why wouldn’t they think that some girl that is pretty hasn’t been used up as a cumdumpster 💀? It’s only logical to think like that. And as a result of all of this dating is dying. Most men are just going with hookups because they are that desperate. They don’t wanna sit there and connect when they could just fuck. And as mentioned before, most women are getting simps on their knees for them making them think they are a 10 when they really aren’t. Most women will use this ego boost to their advantage to get all slutty. They fail to become a high quality female to get that high quality man. They will then commit to the fuckboy who uses them. And then we have the vicious cycle that begins when those same women come on this site and blame men for being trash and how they can’t trust men 🤦🏻. Or even the classic question “do all men just want sex?” 🤣 I’ve seen this shit so many times it’s getting way too repetitive. The worst part is most of these women deny it. Who is to blame here? The men or the women.

[Middleman]

I've seen this for myself. I happen to know some female friends who were high flyers and successful in their working careers who were unable to find a good husband, so ended up being single (for years). It also happens much in the entertainment industry with say actresses, because people equate them as not just beautiful, but actually high maintenance. And that's probably the bit that scares guys the most. No guy is going to approach her if he doesn’t have the financial means to support her.

Then you have things at the other end of the scale. Those who are beautiful and married and…are deeply unhappy with their marriage. I once had a friend who was like this whom I’d known since college. She had gotten on and got married and had kids and was unhappy with her life and ended up almost on the brink of suicide. Because a) her husband was out most of the time working b) expected her just to be a housewife to cook/look after the kids c) didn’t really look after her feelings properly and d) she was living in a remote city far away from her previous social circle of friends in another part of the country. She just wanted someone to talk to, to have an outlet to share her grief and frustration - so I entertained it for a while, being her ‘emotional support rock’ if you will by writing to her my messages of support to try to help basically raise her morale. This went on and off for about 2 years. Other than being a supportive friend, I had no other inclination towards her.

[Anonymous]

I’m considered pretty. I do get a lot of guys hitting on me but I am seldom seriously interested. I would rather be single than with someone I am not really that into. People call me picky but I just know exactly what I want.

I think I’m in the minority though in my social circles- a lot of my pretty friends are happily dating and some of them are rarely single. I don’t think it’s necessarily to do with looks; it’s to do with how picky you are as to how often you’re in a relationship.

And to answer your question, I think men assume this because they think women have it really easy in dating, and even more so attractive women. So they think there’s no reason for them to ever be single.

[kitty71]

Smart comment

[KrakenAttackin]

Anon... women do have it easy it dating and in life overall. The problem is that you don't even realize that your lives are set on easy mode, which makes the smallest obstacle a calamity.

If you are hot (even average looking), you can easily find a man and live an easy life. The problems you have are the ones create for yourself.

[Opinion Owner]

Attractive women only have it easier in the initial stages. I may have a decent amount of men interested in my appearance, but that doesn't mean I am going to be compatible with someone. It's about personality beyond those stages; how well you click

[KrakenAttackin]

Op. Just stop. Your overwhelming privilege is not a burden to be borne.

[Opinion Owner]

@KrakenAttackin sorry, I didn’t realise you know what it’s like to be an attractive woman. You are one.

[Aerissa_Jade]

People assume whatever, can't really change that but that's okay if someone assumes someone is taken and they never make a move. Their loss, they'll never know... even if she is taken, could potentially be a great friend who might have a single friend too that she could set you up with.

[ManOnFire]

That isn't an assumption, it's fact. The vast majority of very attractive women I've known or met throughout my life really were taken or really did have a lot of guys after them. And even the ones who were single were still sleeping with someone for their needs. Which really is a truth about women most people don't think about or don't want to: just because a woman is claiming to be single doesn't mean she's still not having sex with someone, which many really are doing.

[kitty71]

Im single no dating no boyfriend and im not craving to sleep around

[Moose304]

This is true. It sucks to admit, but it is born out by the facts. Women under the age of 30 have a tendency to "settle". As they get closer to 30 they are more apt to marry a "nice guy" but are ripe to leave if somebody better comes along. Men can also tend to be bastards too. I am not saying all women have horns and all men have halos. I am saying both men and women in today's world can be really horrible people!

[Bug99]

It doesn't matter whether you're taken or not, a drop dead gorgeous woman will always have a lot of admirers

[ManOnFire]

@kitty71 Good for you, but you are extremely rare. The vast majority of attractive women are not like you.

[ManOnFire]

@Moose304 Right. Women are more opportunistic than men and monkey branch to whoever will make them sparkle more at the moment.

[kitty71]

@Bug99 Maybe but therea re rare cases

[KelleyNice]

@kitty71 Since@ManOnFire was talking about very pretty women, what an attractive women your age does is not relevant. Nevertheless, that doesn't imply I agree with his statement that if a beautiful woman claims she is single, she is sleeping with someone. I feel certain that he has no evidence that supports his claim.

[Moose304]

@KelleyNice At 64 I am not sleeping with a lot of under 30 females anymore. I have however been with many beautiful unattached females. In fact, they loved my attitude about attachments. So what I would say is a beautiful female might be sleeping with some men, and again she might not. In this case, it is a mistake to assume either.

[ManOnFire]

@KelleyNice You can find out the truth from those very attractive women yourself. A lot of them don't have a real relationship with anybody but are hooking up on Tinder and all those sites or have fuckbuddies. And they call these guys their "good friends" while claiming to be single, but you will catch them texting these "good friends" with romantic smiles on their faces, and sometimes you will even catch glimpses of their texts and see heart and flower emojis in them.

[KelleyNice]

@ManOnFire I have never looked at Tender. In fact, the only about Tender are comments I read on GAG and, from those comments, I'm not interested in Tender, let alone being on it. Perhaps what you say about women on Tender is true. I can't say it is not true since I have no intention of even looking at Tender to find out. However, I did Google, "How many people are on Tender?" The answer in the USA is 7 million and it also said 38% (about 3 million) are females. That is 2% of all females in the USA. How can you justify claiming that 2% of women represents the other 98%?

[ManOnFire]

@KelleyNice I said Tinder "and other sites." Even without those, what I said is still true. I am an adult man who has had experience with numerous women, and I also know the experiences of other men as well.

[KelleyNice]

To repeat what I already said, "@ManOnFire has no evidence to support his claim that if a beautiful woman claims she is single, she is sleeping with someone.

[OlderAndWiser]

I think many guys are intimidated by women who are very attractive and they like having an excuse - the assumption that she is taken - for not trying to approach her.

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. Intimidation is a part but also so is the belief that a guy is wasting his time with a stunning woman. TBH, the most stunning women I have known looked good but usually lacked substance.

[OlderAndWiser]

@KrakenAttackin I have had that same experience with some very, very pretty women.

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. I guess things come so easily they don't have to develop a personality.

[OlderAndWiser]

@KrakenAttackin I have no idea what it's like to constantly get the "pedestal" treatment!

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. Nor do I.

[Haha456]

@KrakenAttackin

why would she need so much substance if she already has guys that will do absolutely anything to be wit her?

[Inbox]

@Haha456 because looks don't last and experienced men understand that personality goes a long way.

[Haha456]

@Inbox

Because she is so hot that she would be married before her looks disappear

[TruthBringer]

@KrakenAttackin @OlderAndWiser You are both correct. I'm in my 20s and I see it all around me in pretty girls around my age. All they think about is partying, fishing for likes on social media and getting their egos boosted by guys thirsting over them. When you talk to them even in a more neutral or even professional setting, there is just almost nothing there. All they think about is just "fun fun parties fun fun drinking fun fun".

In many cases, their arrogance also exceeds their beauty. They think they can act and do stuff and expect people to just take it. That's what happens when you're being raised as a spoiled brat and also got a bunch of desperate dudes trying to simp their way into your graces. So they take whatever shit these girls throw at them all in the hopes of getting some action. So these (young) women learn that they can act with impunity. That is until they meet a guy like me who puts them in their place and it shocks them everytime. Happened a few times during my courses in University. The passive aggressiveness that comes from them is astonishing. And what seems to bother them even more is the fact I don't care.

This is why whenever I start to wonder whether a pretty girl is relationship material. One of the first things I check is whether she is a party girl. Because those are often the girls that are braindead.

[Inbox]

@Haha456 You're assuming the marriage will even last tho, which with cardboard women or men, often don't unless they're both cardboards.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

but you're also the same guy who says that any woman over the age of 30 is not worth dating. so why shouldn't a pretty young girl be arrogant? By the time you're 40, you will still be begging for a 21 yr old's attention. She can get as arrogant and entitled as she wants. You would do absolutely anything to get with her

[Haha456]

@Inbox

Women nowadays do not see marriage as a necessity. Thats why the divorce rates are so high. Nowadays, women have good paying jobs and careers, they can survive well on their own without their husbands.

[kitty71]

@Haha456 you are correct

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 I never ever said that women over 30 are not worthy of dating. Go ahead and prove that I made such a claim. Good luck with that, because I haven't. I probably made a claim that it is the girls int their 20s that are the most desirable because that's when they are in their prime years. Whereas in their 30s that's when it all starts going downhill. You can stop putting words in people's mouths.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

because I've known you on GAG a long time, my friend. This is not our first interaction. I've seen all that you've written.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 And yet you failed to prove your little accusation with a single citation. Claiming you know me well doesn't entitle you to put words in my mouth. You're hereby dismissed.

[TruthBringer]

@haha456 Also, I've never interacted with this account before. So if you claim to have interacted with me, why don't you come here with your main account? Or did you decide to create a new burner account to stay anonymous or because the other one got deactivated? Either way, if you can't prove your claims, then they are meaningless.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

It does not matter if you do not recognize me, I recognize you. I know who you are.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 Yes, because I don't use burner accounts. You failed once again to prove the accusation you made against someone, but we're still supposed to believe you excuse that you "know me". Sure bud.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Haha456 "Women nowadays do not see marriage as a necessity. Thats why the divorce rates are so high." Actually, that would be a reason for women to not get married. It does not relate to divorce. And you are merely repeating what you have heard others say without determining whether it is true. The reality is that divorce rates have been steadily dropping and are at a 50-year low!

ifstudies.org/.../the-us-divorce-rate-has-hit-a-50-year-low

[Inbox]

@Haha456 Nice tangent lol. You just told me that she is so hot that she doesn't need to build substance, but then saying she doesn't need marriage either? Are you saying she doesn't need to be in relationships either? Or are you also assuming like @kitty71 (at least you and her seem to be) like a feminist that "women can do whatever she wants" up to a point where you are somehow immune to biology?

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

You spent months saying that women hit the wall by 30 on here. And that you would never date a woman who is over the age of 30. Then now, you're trying to say that women in their 30s is still valuable.

you're the biggest troll on here ever. It does not matter if you don't know me, I know you. You spent a year spewing garbage on here and yet you think that nobody knows you.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

Divorce rates are lower because nobody is getting married nowadays. If you don't get married, you can't get divorced.

The number of marriages in the U. S. in 2020 was the lowest recorded in over half a century, according to data released Tuesday by the National Center for Health Statistics. May 17, 2022

https
://www. nationalreview. com/news/u-s-marriage-rate-dropped-to-50-year-low-in-2020/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20marriages%20in, National%20Center%20for%20Health%20Statistics.

[Haha456]

@Inbox

you don't need substance to get married. If you're a woman in her 20s, you would have so many men chasing you, that you will never need substance. Men don't look for substance, they look for looks. Hence the reason why you see so many men on here saying women over 30 are undatable.

[Inbox]

@Haha456 You JUST told me that marriage is ultimately irrelevant because she is so hot, therefore substance is irrelevant, yet now you're saying men only want looks whereas you have four grown and experienced men on this opinion telling you that looks only goes so far.

I'm telling you (again), that such marriages don't usually last ---- you cannot go back in time and get those lost years back. It also includes your once fancy looks.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Haha456 Yes, people are waiting until they are a bit older to get married and that is a good thing. Young people marry without anys ense of commitment and with an expectation that every day will be like apicnic in the park; at the first sign of trouble, they divorce.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

Again, Divorce rates are lower because fewer people are getting married.

[Haha456]

@Inbox

this entire website is filled with old men saying that women are worthless by the time they hit 30. the disrespect of older women is blatantly obvious on here.

what else you have to say is worthless. Actions speak louder than words.

[Ehjoh1]

Sadly, yes... I can't deny anything lol

[Inbox]

@Haha456 Yet your argument is that looks are the end game for hot girls and that is based upon the evidence of GAG opinions? I must have forgot that all women above 30 years old are not in relationships or married.

It is true that a woman's prime is from 20 - 30 years old and a man's is from 30 - 40, but demand for women does not cut off necessarily at the age of 30 -- it's simply less.

For you to make binary statements and assume that such conclusions are just as binary are just as worthless as saying actions speak louder than words without first understanding the internal, THEN judging the external vs judging the external, THEN the internal.

[Haha456]

@Inbox

The same people who are now saying "women in their 30s are still worth dating" are the same people who claimed "women hit the wall by 30 and they will never date a woman over 30".

Simply changing stances whenever it suits you, does not work.

[It is true that a woman's prime is from 20 - 30 years old and a man's is from 30 - 40]

A man's prime is 25-35. 35 is usually when men start going downhill. 40 is when they officially hit the wall.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Haha456 I didn't disagree.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 Yes, women begin hitting the wall in their 30s (meaning they start to exit their prime years). Nowhere did I ever say they are worthless to be with. I also said they aren’t valuable. This is the second time you’re putting words in my mouth. All I said is that in general, women in their 20s are most desired for BIOLOGICAL reasons.

And yet you’re calling me “the biggest troll”. But hey, whatever helps you with your insecurities.

[TruthBringer]

@haha456 I also never said they are valuable* Just because I say they aren't worthless is not synonymous with claiming they are valuable. It is no different than claiming someone must prefer skinny annorexic women when they says they don't want to date an obese woman. Your black-white thinking is astonishing.

All claims, but no evidence. But by all means, don't let me stop you from speaking your usual garbage.

[TruthBringer]

@haha456H Unlike you, I do have counter-evidence to what I've said a year ago (under the "Most Helpful Guy" section):
Are women after 35 useless? ↗

I'm starting to suspect you're @aliali8 who immediately threw a temper tantrum and a bunch of insults, instead of having a mature discussion to learn from each other's perspectives. No wonder you came here at me in bad faith

[Inbox]

@TruthBringer Yeah, she's putting words in my mouth now too SMH @haha456 When did I say that women are not worth dating once they hit 30? My last ex and my current girlfriend would disagree - thanks for playing.

[TruthBringer]

@Inbox The girl is out of touch with reality. I wouldn't be surprised if she sees ghosts. This is what people do when they aren't intellectually capable of producing a valid counter argument. They resort to psychological manipulation tactics like gas lighting and ad hominems to try and retalliate. Only jokes on her, it only exposes how immature and unintelligent she is.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

You spent over a year on GAG, spending the most of your time shitting on older women, being condescending, saying that women's value decrease as they age (as if your value won't decrease as you age). Your attitude on here was always super disrespectful and nasty towards older women. You constantly brag that you will never ever date a woman over 30. Bragging about your girlfriend's age and saying that she also agrees that older women are worthless once they hit the wall. You love making fun of older women about "hitting the wall" then love calling them "butt hurt".

Now you're trying to claim that you would date a woman over 30 or that women over 30 are still worth something , when it suits your agenda.

You're just a huge fucking sexist troll. That will say absolutely anything as long as it suits your agenda. You have no respect for women. You see women as second-class citizens who should always be manipulated to suit a man's agenda. You think you can say absolutely anything towards a woman and still get away with it.

And no, don't use the "biological reason" excuse. Women can successfully have children all the way until they are 40 years old.

Everyone knows you on here as the infamous trasher of women.

[Haha456]

@Inbox

The ENTIRE GAG is filled with misogynist who trash older women.

I don't know you. But I know @TruthBringer is the most FAMOUS ones on here.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

You say whatever you want to women, as long as it suits you. You treat women however you want, as long as it suits your agenda. Its very clearly you have no respect for women. You think you can just say whatever you want and still get away with it.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

Women in 30s now having more babies than younger moms in US

https
://www. cnbc. com/2017/05/17/women-in-30s-now-having-more-babies-than-younger-moms-in-us. html

Motherhood Deferred: US Median Age for Giving Birth Hits 30

https
://www. voanews. com/a/motherhood-deferred-us-median-age-for-giving-birth-hits-30/6561002. html

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 Seems like I have struck a nerve. Spam me all you like girl, if you think I'm even going to bother anything you've typed out for me then you're playing yourself. Unlike you, I've sent counter evidence to debunk your accusation.

Stay mad, troll.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

why would you think I'm mad? I'm not mad. why would I care so much about what human trash thinks?

All I am doing, is calling you out on your BS. If I see human trash, I will call you human trash.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 you didn't call me out on my BS. You're making stuff up about me and then proceed to throw an emotional temper tantrum as soon as you're presented with counter-evidence to your false accusation. Even though you were given the chance to prove that which you claim about someone, but failed in doing so.

So yes, stay mad. I don't know what is worse, calling me out to be a "sexist troll" or being obsessed with me. So why bother talking to me? Why don't you go and be on your way?

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

A simple sentence of denial can't disprove years of your disrespect for older women.

you're one of the more FAMOUS ones on here for hating on older women.

[KrakenAttackin]

@TruthBringer Spot on correct.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

[So yes, stay mad. I don't know what is worse, calling me out to be a "sexist troll" or being obsessed with me. So why bother talking to me? Why don't you go and be on your way?]

you wished I was on my way because you don't like me calling you out on your BS.

I like calling you out on your BS because it makes you know that you're wrong. Its good to shame human trash.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 I'll be ingoring your tantrums from now on as I'm not responsible for giving you the attention your daddy didn't give you. Ciao love

[Haha456]

@KrakenAttackin

KrakenAttackin is also another famous woman hater on GAG.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Haha456 You are projecting. Not every man is a foolish simp, not every man is blinded by a pretty face. Some men have a deeper intellect and perception that physical beauty can't dismantle.

[TruthBringer]

@KrakenAttackin As I thought, she lacks male attention and most specifically from a father. Just sit back and watch how she self-sabotages with her emotional tantrums and bitterness.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

Nobody can ignore years of seeing your nasty and disrespectful attitude towards women.

You wished people can ignore it now, right?

You also wished I disappear and stop calling you out on your BS.

Maybe if you were more respectful of older women, you wouldn't be in this shitty spot right now.

[Haha456]

@KrakenAttackin

I think you're projecting your own pain and anger. there's nobody who hurts as much as you on here.

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. Divorce rates has dropped because marriage rates are at the lowest point in recorded history.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 Sure love. I'm a sexist troll, yet somehow manage to have women as half my followers on here, can go along with women very well in real life, and am in a loving relationship.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. Is nice knowing I've been living in your head rent-free for a year.

Keep projecting.

[OlderAndWiser]

@KrakenAttackin Absolutely. The people who should not get married are learning to stay away from it.

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. Men who grew up with single mothers, who watched their fathers, uncles, and older brothers get divorce raped, have learned about the genuine danger of marriage.

[Haha456]

@KrakenAttackin @OlderAndWiser

Americans have a very fucked up idea on the concept of marriage. In other cultures , marriage is not romanticized as much as it is in america. They don't see the whole concept of "marriage" as a fun amusement park ride but rather a union where two people marry to care for each other forever. They see life as better by being cared for by family, having someone to be there for them, having a warm loving family to come home to, having a group of people to celebrate Christmas with. This explains why divorce rates are significantly lower in other countries.

Same reason why arraigned marriages have a divorce rate of 4% while romance marriages have a whopping 40-50% divorce rate. Marriage based off of feelings , passion are significantly less sustainable.

Divorce is more often a choice rather than a necessity.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

And on here, you spend most of your time shitting on older women. Then making fun of them calling them "butt hurt". This is your true inner character.

You may know how to put up a good disguise when it comes to real life. Let your girlfriend believe in your lies and your show performances about how great of a guy you are. Wait until the years go by after you get married. Your true stinky terrible inner character will eventually come out. And she would be shocked to find the true monster that she has married.

Same thing about my father. My mother never knew the true rotten asshole that he was until years after she married him. You never truly know someone until after you marry them.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 More baseless accusations. I love how it annoys people like you that despite all the baseless assumptions you have about me, I still manage to be in a loving relationship with a girl who obviously is happy to be with me. It's obvious who the bitter one here is.

Stay mad 😘.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

haha nice try at mocking me for my age again. Why did you call me bitter? was it because it says age 30 on my profile?

I'm actually 26, ok?

you definitely had a fun time calling all older women "bitter" on this website.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 I actually didn't mock you for your age. Not that I will even ask for you to point out, because you will once again beat around the bush when it comes to your burden of proof. Off the shrooms girl. You're seeing things that aren't there.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

so why would you call me bitter? I've definitely seen you call older women "bitter" on here.

[TruthBringer]

@Haha456 Bitterness is not something exclusive to odler women, which is something you ironically made it out to be and therefore hold me accountable for your own misinterpretation. I called you bitter because you have a prejudice against me and therefore from the get go started putting words in my mouth while doing your best to insult my character. All while you don't even know me personally.

I don't call older women bitter because they are older. I call the ones who show bitterness and resentment due to accumulated baggage over the years towards people who are younger than them or to the people who they are supposed to love. Does that mean every older woman out there is bitter? No of course not. I'm simply calling out the ones who are. I actually get along well with older women. But of course this will go straight over your head and you'll accuse me of things that I never did or say, just to please your inflated ego.

Anyway, I'm done explaining myself to an irrelevant stranger on the internet who will never get to meet or know me in real life. I'm going to round up my preperations for the trip I'm going to take with my girlfriend. So I'll give you the last word since you're obviously desperate to have it. Not that I will bother to read it. I'll enjoy living in your head rent-free as I've been doing for the past year it seems. Ciao ciao <3.

[OlderAndWiser]

@KrakenAttackin @haha456 @TruthBringer Enough already! Please stop, or start exchanging DMs, or something.

[Haha456]

@TruthBringer

why don't you go fuck off? Every time you reply, you invent new excuses. I don't care about human trash says. Go argue by yourself. Didn't read the rest of your BS. Human trash will stay human trash. I'd rather have real discussions with decent people at peace.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

I genuinely like to hear about your perspective on my last post to you.

[KrakenAttackin]

@TruthBringer Good post.

[TruthBringer]

@KrakenAttackin Thanks mate!

[OlderAndWiser]

@Haha456 You may be right. I don't really know much about European attitudes towards marriage. If marriage is viewed as a practical arrangement, and it is satisfying the practical goals, does that mean that you tolerate yor partner being unfaithful? That is not something I could ever do in a marriage.

The marriage rates and divorce rates have both dropped sgificantly in the US.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

Divorce rates haven't dropped significantly. It just dropped a bit. Divorce in America actually wasn't common for thousands of years. It's only been a common thing over the recent past few decades. The big reason is because marriage ideals have shifted from being a necessity to being about feelings.

Back then, life was difficult, and people needed each other to survive. Women didn't hold jobs and even if they did, she was likely uneducated and worked very low wage jobs that required no education, which mean that she would have no way of making enough money to support herself , if she divorced. Girls were not encouraged to go to college back then. So they needed their husbands to survive. Nowadays, vast majority of women are educated and hold very decent paying careers. Marriage is no longer seen as a necessity but rather than option to both men or women.

You might think that arraigned marriage partners cheat more, but in fact, they do not cheat more. From my experience, arraigned marriage couples even cheat less than romance couples. It all has to do with expectations and mindset. Arraigned marriages usually have lower expectations of marriage. They understand that there will always be miserable fights. They're more forgiving of each other's faults. In romance marriages, expectations tend to be significantly higher. When reality falls short of expectations, thats explains the high divorce rate.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

Once I asked an indian father about why he wanted to put his son into an arraigned marriage. He replied "because arraigned marriages are more sustainable".

In the US, we drift from dating one person to the next until we find "the right one". We spend YEARS trying to find the right one. Dating then breaking up, dating then breaking up, dating then breaking up, dating then breaking up. By the time you're 32, you've already had 6-9 partners. And you're still struggling to find the right one.

When in reality, the vast majority of people will never find the "right one". There is no such thing as the right one. In every partner, you will always find things you don't like about the other person , which you need to tolerate.

This is the reason why Americans divorce so much, they have been taught to have a high expectation of finding "the right one".

In my opinion, marriage should not be seen as just a mere amusement park ride. When the fun of the ride dies down, you divorce. Marriage should be more than just an amusement park ride. It should be about caring for each other forever, building a loving family, having someone to come home to Christmas / Thanksgiving.

Believe it or not, a lot of folks who stay single until old age tend to be very lonely with nobody to spend Christmas / Thanksgiving with, coming home to a silent empty apartment with nobody to talk to, if they get injured nobody would care, they're not a priority to anyone. I've seen single folks in their 40s-50s, who constantly complain about not having a support system during times of financial distress. If the lost their jobs, they would have absolutely no one to turn to for help. If they broke their leg and couldn't work to pay rent, it would likely mean they would become homeless. Its a lot of stress.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

There was a time where I was hired by a man in his late 40s who broke his back and hadn't been able to work so he was recovering from it by staying home. When I arrived, he told me that he hadn't bathed in a week because he couldn't move. His apartment was littered with pizza boxes, his trash bin was loaded with takeout bags. Nobody had taken out his trash in what looks like a month. His sink was overwhelmed with dirty dishes which looked like hadn't been done in a while. Nobody had checked up on him.

And that made me quickly realize that this was not the dreadful existence I would ever want to endure when I got older. Thats when I knew I had to get married no matter what.

[Haha456]

@OlderAndWiser

Another reason why I simply would not marry an American man is because they are always selfish and on the lookout for something better. I have literally seen on multiple occasions where an American father who had 3 kids with their wives, all the kids being under the age of 10. He supports the entire family while she cares for the kids. One day, he finds someone at work that they "like" more than their wife. This new woman is cooler, younger, sexier, more exciting. He goes cheating then eventually he leaves his wife for this new woman.

American guys have no sense of responsibility over their families. They're constantly on the lookout for someone better to feed their own selfish needs. They have no remorse they just broke up a family. Their wife is now divorced, has no job, with 3 kids that she has no idea how to pay for. Then he complains about paying alimony or child support or that she is taking half his assets.

When you are married, have kids, have a mortgage under you and your wife's name, your first priority should be taking care of the family. Your first priority should not feeding yourself with someone better , cooler, sexier, more exciting. American society has a lot of very self centered people who only care about themselves. Thats why we have so many broken homes, blended families where the new mommy is the "step mom" instead of the real mother, kids being shipped every few weeks from mommys house to daddy's house, having to pick between whether they can have mom or dad cuz they can't really have both.

[Pinay_ako]

Big mistake. Assuming.

[TruthBringer]

Because IN GENERAL, that is the case. Just because it *may* not apply to you, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to the rest.

Okay here is the thing. The reality is, yes these pretty women DO have a lot of admirerers and suitors. If not in real life (which I find highly unlikely), then most definitely online. The most "irrelevant", yet.

Saying "well it's all assumptions and is not always like that" is just stating the obvious and downplaying what we all know. Yes, it is not always the case, but like I said, IN GENERAL, that is the case. Whenever I see a pretty girl outside or in the gym, I already assume she got at the very least a bunch of dudes she is ignoring in her DMs. So I'm not going to be one of the sheep to boost her ego more (not that I should anyway, because I'm in a relationship). That's what has become of society with all this social media.

Also, saying that (pretty) women cannot find any suitors. The reality is they can, only they think they are unlucky. Why? Because the men that THEY WANT don't want them back. These often are the men who have their pick in women. While the majority of men don't. It is far easier for a woman to find a guy than it is the way around. Especially online. So when I hear women say they find it hard to get into a relationship, I always say "look in your friendzone"

I recommend watching this video.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/5u13_Bdw5eY

[chicosuave]

Because most women today are more delusional on the men they want. Thanks to all the dating apps and social media such as Instagram, facebook etc. You get hundreds of dudes message you but you ignore them because you were brainwashed by the feminist movement that it's always greener in the outside.

this is why I always broke up with my exes because they expected more and I'm not going to change for anyone. Women are never happy for what they have and it's true. No wonder there so many single mothers today and so many divorced women initiating 70% of all divorces. Many women will probably end up single for the rest of their life's because they could never find that prince charming they wanted. The man never showed up. For god sakes I'm seeing so many single 40 year old women on dating apps it's so ridiculous. These are women today and it's sad. Before we never heard that. That was not the case back in the day. Most people were in a relationship or married back when social media didn't exist. Also don't come up with the myth that because women are free and financially independent. That has nothing to do with it. You can live by yourself with roommates or own you're own apartment and still make a relationship work. women who are single are single by choice not by force. There's a huge difference there.

[Darkrainbow]

For example what did your ex lovers want from you that you could not do?

[Anonymous]

Because it’s true. Younger women today who are pretty or beautiful or gorgeous know it and they use it to their advantage. I’m not hating. But I’m not sure why guys have the moniker as fuck boys for shooting their shot at girls. When girls seek validation on social media it’s extremely easy to get DM’s or get courted in public. And in todays era — girls have these types of relationship statuses “it’s complicated”, so if she’s in a toxic relationship or “open” relationship she’ll never commit because well “I just want some fun”.

80%+ of the answer I get from young women today on GAG about marriage or relationships is “fuck marriage” or “fuck relationships”, 100000000000000% goes towards my career and friends and that’s it. I think young women today look at relationships or especially marriage as a death sentence, something to dread. That’s why I don’t care about asking out girls, they come off as bitchy, mean, off putting, selfish, not loyal, not committing. Welcome to 2022 this is the reason. But one day people will realize the dishonesty of companies, the broken promises from universities, the manipulation of politicians we continue to vote for, the world will wake up to what’s the truth.

Right now we live in a materialistic, self centred, let’s cancel that person or this person, narcissistic, hateful, misguided world. Trying to live life vicariously and aimlessly with no real faith and turning to outlets that worsen our life, not better it. In the whole scope of my answer this is why guys and men are hesitant to approach women or girls in general and that’s the cold hard facts, I don’t care if a girl reads this and gives my comment a thumbs down…Go ahead, my life isn’t based on likes.

[Shagmaster6000]

How would you feel if you had your hopes up, only to have them all taken away in one fell swoop? Maybe she's the one? Hell, I would give her the world if I could... but nope she's already taken, or she's not interested. I'd be pretty devastated. It's easier just to engage in everyday activities that I know I'll get pleasure from. My record collection (or whatever hobby you have) will never reject or dismiss me. The days go by... weeks... months... years. I sit in my basement and spin my favourite records. I work and I spin records. I would love to have a partner. Someone who understands me and accepts me. Everything is a risk though. My last partner was verbally abusive and she laid waste to my finances. How do I find someone who's right for me? How do I even approach someone? I mean I can start a conversation with someone no problem. I can make friends. But that's all it ever amounts to. Sometimes I feel like it's just too much of an effort. Sigh, I think I'll put another record on.

[ChrisMaster69]

It’s fairly common for girls who are really good looking to actually be single or have long dry spells.

There always seems to be an assumption that good looking means lots of action.

Just because a girl is really good looking does not mean she sleeps around, has had a lot of previous partners.

Some really want to hold out for someone they are compatible with, others may be focusing on career and getting their lives sorted first.

Never assume anything, nothing wrong with chatting to her and just being nice without hitting on her.

There are plenty girls out there who are really good looking but shy, feel a bit socially awkward etc.

[Guccigabbana18]

This is the right answer.

[kitty71]

My case exactly

[KrakenAttackin]

@chrismaster69. This is the brainwashed simp answer.

[ChrisMaster69]

@KrakenAttackin go fuck yourself cunt.

You total waste of an egg and sperm.

You are basically a closest rapist.

Then again would not really be surprised if you have not sweated like a rapists in a line out.

The likes of you drag everything down to your pathetic level.

Total waste of fucking oxygen.

Oh and no that’s not a rant, that’s just a casual none venting statement of fact.

[KrakenAttackin]

That's the spirit Chris Masters!

[BullShark]

Because it's easy for us to assume and reason to think that majority of the women out there who are 9/10s or even a solid 11.

I mean, don't women think handsome guys are taken 99% of the time? The reason we think so as well is because we think it's easier to believe. You see, as men, we aren't generally perceived as the more attractive sex because that's how human biology works, unfortunately. So think of it as a sort of coping mechanism of our's. It's easy to tell ourselves "she's probably taken" instead of something like "she's way out of our league."

And that's not the only reason we think all pretty women are taken either. Most of us guys, even if the girl isn't taken, will go around telling us that they're taken or they're seeing someone, even if they aren't, because they don't want to say no to a guy.

[ArrowheadSW]

I used to know a lady over 15 years ago, who was divorced and very beautiful. She struggled because she thought after she got divorced, she would have no problem finding men to date. It didn't work out that way for her. I don't know if men were too intimidated by her or what. On the other hand, I didn't date her either but that's because I didn't see any common interests. She did sadly end up dying by suicide but I think she was bipolar and swung towards depression. Very sad indeed. Every time I run into someone I know who knew her, we talk about how neat of a lady she was.

[Moose304]

In the context of meeting and speaking to ANY female. A male in today's world has to be careful. I have seen men asked to leave a bar/club simply because a female complained they were bothering them. This dynamic is also true on the grounds of a college or major University. AND in the workplace! I know several men that were expelled from school without a chance to even defend themselves. In this context, many men will not risk being told to leave and will simply ignore that female. Not long ago I saw a young man be asked to leave by the bartender simply because he said "hello" to a female and she made a face at the bartender. I am not saying this is the case 100% of the time. I am saying men are slowly starting to learn to avoid them. As much as I hate it, this is why more and more people both male and female have turned to dating sites on the internet!

[DWornock]

It is true that most colleges are a hostile for men.

[davner]

damn, good question.

when i see a beautiful girl, i think "no guy is dumb enough to leave her single, she's probably taken already."

i don't put too much thought before i come to that conclusion, but when you think about it, it makes sense, well at least in my perspective; she undoubtedly has a close guy (or just a regular but acquainted) friend or two in the least, with one of them who has a liking towards her. he's got a higher chance compared to all of us strangers out here (except Chris hemmingsworth ig).

i guess it has something to do with courage though? you know, "no harm in trying at least."

[DWornock]

Because it is the truth. Just because a woman doesn't count the guys she doesn't want, in no way does that imply there are not dozens to hundreds of guys she meets that would love to have her. Because she can't get the one guy out of hundred that she wants, all pretty girls say, "No guy wants me" when all she has to is snap her fingers and a dozen guys will come running.

Even is she is nasty rude evil bitch, there never has been any such thing as a pretty girl that doesn't have guys interested in her.

[Adronicus]

Woman like this love to use men for free validation among other things, after awhile men adapt.. Personally I just stopped caring. I show apathy to most women unless they approach me, personally I don't see a problem with this seeing as we're all equal now. Not sure what's going on these days but seems to me like who cares the least wins. I'd never invest my heart & soul in someone that treats it like some game.. This has happened to the point where I don't care anymore.

#actions/consequences :p

[Avicenna]

Well, TBH, they usually (but not always) are in relationships. Or maybe some guys don't want to compete with lots of other guys. Or they know that many hot women are shallow or have impossible standards.

That said, if you interested in a woman, you should talk to her, because you never know.

[JSmuve]

Because more often than not it's true. A truly attractive, in-demand woman definitely has admirers. And if she's single, it's most likely by choice. If an attractive woman says she's struggled with getting a boyfriend, it's more likely because the guys she's been dating haven't met her standards than the other way around. If she can't even get a date, it's because of the vibe she's putting out.

[KBird]

I don't know I kinda agree with this. Like some women are introverts, including attractive ones, and just dont like people or talking to them. Some of them are socially awkward and dont know how to flirt. :-/

[JSmuve]

@KBird They don't need to know how to flirt. As long as they're not a bitch and ask questions to show a modicum of interest, then that's usually enough. Flirting, for an attractive girl, is like slamming on the accelerator on a car that's already moving downhill.

[Jamie05rhs]

@JSmuve Lol- great analogy.

[JSmuve]

@Jamie05rhs thanks chief. I thought it was a pretty apt analogy. And it's so true.

[JDavid25]

I agree.. But logically with a woman that is closer to the conventional standard, it's probably safer for men to assume she is accounted for than not.. But, you're right the truth is a surprisingly number of attractive women do have trouble dating.. And guys today just don't go up to women like we used to..

[kitty71]

MAYBE THEY GUYS DO GO UP but not in a genuine way, some may want just a hook up or get laid

[JDavid25]

They say that the guys who do go up to them are usually not the savory types.. Not good guys..

[TwinTonyz]

It's a sound assumption. The woman you described is going to draw attention at a much higher rate than your average woman. It's not a matter of if she has admirers, it's an absolute given. Someone like that is completely off the table for all but the pinnacle of men, or perhaps all men if she's not interested in any kind of relationship. She can have exactly who she wants. There's no reason to assume I'd be that or that she doesn't have it already.

[Lionman95]

I think it´s kind of mixture of gossip and self experience. Gossip because it´s told everywhere that beautiful women get more male attention especially on dating apps.

But it´s sometimes also self-experience because either in school or college later there were girls all guys talked about and there were girls few talked about.

To be fair it doesn´t work for all beautiful women but the chance that they are taken or get more than enough male attention is higher.

[TonyV]

They could ask the guys out...
Ooor just pick one of the guys that does go after them, cause there absolutely no women under the age of 40 that are on a dating site with zero men in their dms.

Sorry but picky women holding out for the perfect man or think they are above asking a man out cause it's " the man's job" aren't a concern to me.

There is no reason for a women to be single if she dosent want to be.

[HoraceB]

Some guys might fear that if they're that hot not only will they have many admirers, but that they might be more likely to cheat. They might assume that guys are constantly flirting with her & he couldn't ever measure up to all of them. So he starts to feel like he has no chance of keeping her even if she agrees to go out with him.

[Prof_Don]

May guys make the mistake of thinking top-tier-looking women are always taken, presuming many guys approach these gals.

Talking to talk-tier-looking women myself... you'll be surprised how little they get approached by men! Sadly, the few with the guts to approach these gals, are usually guys that aren't looking for serious relationships.

[Kreneman]

I have been an Patrol Officer for over 20yrs and its true most beautiful woman are usually taken and its always very hard for them to date or to pick one because a lot of men have approached them especially if they're blessed with intimidating sexy looks.

[Jamie05rhs]

Because predators prey on the most beautiful. It's just a fact of life. So genetically attractive females will probably be taken by the age of 12 or 13. 15 at the very latest. Then after that it's just a matter of whether they're currently with someone or "between boyfriends."

(Note: By "predators," I don't necessarily mean rapists. Just guys looking to get laid.)

[Plinko]

Because men have self confidence issues and it usually manifests in the form of

"She's too good for me and anyone who is better than me would be crazy not to have picked her up already so I've got not shot."

[20yearsolder]

You also have to take into consideration that guys think girls that look like that are out of their league. Lots of us suffer from the lack of self-confidence to not having the guts to go up and ask someone out

[ronaldo75]

1. Not all men do this.
2. The 80s ended a long time ago.
3. Today's men assume all pretty women have a cell phone full of simps and 2 and 3 ex's that she's still "best friends with" - which... sadly practically all pretty women under 30 have today.
4. Not worth the effort.

[dolemite89]

cuz the vast majority of pretty women are taken or get hit on constantly, what you describe is very rare ime. They will say they have a hard time getting a boyfriend or guys won't hit on them but there’s usually some major detail or character flaw of theirs that they’re leaving out.

[Beardedman1996]

Because men are men, we know how we operate and we know how other men operate similarly, we have a thing with low self confidence and hate competition, if she’s outta our league we are going to assume she’s either of the market or just that out of our league to assume she’d never pick us, doesn’t matter if she would want us our preconceived mentality will lead us to walk away unfortunately, we’ve grown tired of having to fight for something we may not even get, different world different approach

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

I found this teson a while back on a blog. Since then, I do not ever take their beauty into consideration.

But this behavior will take a bit of a time to get habituated with as I thought like other guys before that.

Work in progress.

[Anonymous]

Knowing some exceptions doesn't change the accuracy of the general assumption.

Most good looking women are not single for long. But most guys who are interested in her will at least ask about her status from someone who'd know.

[kitty71]

I know many pretty ladies who had been single for a long time and it is difficult for them for guys to have interest in them or dont ask her out and the ones who may had ask her out is for ulterior motives.

[Haha456]

@kitty71

Pretty girls tend to know they have a lot of admirers, its just that refuse to take the initiative to ask any of them out. I've been a very pretty girl once upon a time in my life, even though I never had any guys ask me out. I can easily see with the expressions on their faces that they were very impressed with what they saw or even shocked by my looks (in a good way). I used to turn heads (and trust me, I notice it). I've seen strangers on the streets tell me I'm beautiful. I've seen job interviewers melt and get all nervous when they saw me.

But having good looks is a very temporary thing in life. Enjoy it while you have it.

[Haha456]

@kitty71

I used to have guys ranging from police officers to married men to delivery boys stare at me so stunned they were unable to move. Trust me, if you're really pretty. You would know.

[UniquelyBasic]

Well because the prettier a person is, that person will usually have more opportunities to get with others as more people are attracted to them.

[KelleyNice]

From what I have observed, by puberty most boys are attracted to pretty girls.

[HaveNoName]

Boys don't. Men do. Because they focus on women who are slightly older and it is mostly correct for assume they are not single. To find a really beautiful or attractive woman being single is in fact an outside chance.

[JPresidente]

That probably get that opinion because the make-up of society and media, TV etc make it seem that a pretty woman is bound to have men after her and never want for male companionship due to her looks.

[KrakenAttackin]

A "beautiful" woman who is "single" is so by choice. Her "difficulty" in dating stems from her wildly unrealistic expectations of a man.

[Subarugirl]

In that case the same would apply to men...

[Birdlegs]

@Subarugirl yes exactly

[KrakenAttackin]

@Birdlegs Agreed.

[chicosuave]

@Subarugirl ok how? Explain

[KrakenAttackin]

"Physical beauty not always is an advantage ". This is complete gibberish. Physically attractive people will always have significant advantages over unattractive people.

[TruthBringer]

@Subarugirl Physical beauty has always been an advantage. And it is a known fact within Psychology. You can stop spreading dumb misinformation.

[anton_dee]

Logic. Men admire beauty. So a beautiful girl mostly will be taken or certainly admired by many.

e. g. A PhD scientist will have 1/10th the social media followers than a beautiful hot looking school dropout.

[DarkWinterNights]

Dating in an of itself right now is a miserable experience. Pursuing overly attractive women just seems like a waste of time.

[Ghostluck]

Sounds like shallow dudes. A lot of pretty women are pretty shallow as well though. Like some of these dating sites, their demands can be outright funny as hell. Like, good luck with all that...

[Juxtapose]

Even the ugliest woman has a far greatest greater advantage in dating than the average man.

[chicosuave]

Yup so true. I have a female friend who is not attractive at all and she is dating like 3 different dudes a week and yet she still has like 2- or 3 different dudes who she sleeps with a week. She tells me all this stuff. It's mind blowing and I'm pretty much saddened on how desperate guys are. I even saw her tinder profile and she has over 500 matches. Imagine the girls who are just average like a 5 or 6 in looks?
Plus my female friend I would puke if I see her naked. Yeah it's that bad. Not trying to mean or anything I'm just stating reality.
When I used to work for a big clinic in my town. The majority of the gender with stds were women which is crazy to think about. Thinking that men were the ones who had all the sex but the reality is that women are the ones who have more sex then men. It's very true. You can look at the stats on who is more likely to develop an std and it will tell you the gender.

[TruthBringer]

100% correct. I've seen it way too many times in real life and it is a known fact within online dating as well. Men are generally more desperate and also less picky.

[CalmYourTits]

"Beautiful nice women" is perspective.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Because most are taken and if you are a girl there is a freaking guy whose admiring you , you might just not know it

[Pejtu]

Its because 99% of the cases it is like that

Same with women why do u assume tall good looking guys are taken or they got side bitches

[pizzalovershouse]

Cuz usely most beautiful or pretty girls are seen around a guy or guys or weR a wedding ring or a ring that looks like a partner ring

[kitty71]

But there are beautiful ladies who are totally unlucky

[pizzalovershouse]

Very true

[Anonymous]

Because they are generally taken or are rude to guys who aren't on the same or more attractive level. I have only heard that there are pretty girls who are also kind, and good in nature but all the once I know are always totally opposite.

[Chthou95]

This is why men and women are not the same. Women think completely different. You say that but most men know that a pretty attractive woman has options and admirers and is more than likely taken

[Guanfei]

Because pretty women attract many men, which increase a lot the chances of her getting one she likes.

It's that simple.

[kitty71]

I know many pretty women who are still single, have no boyfriend no date anything beause guys do not notice them

[Guanfei]

Guys notice pretty women. All the time. It's an instinct for us.
But unless we know we're super hot, or super rich, we know that there's no chance a girl like that would be interested in us. And there's a high chance that she already has someone.
You girls need to start making the first step.

[Jamie05rhs]

@kitty71 @Guanfei is right. We definitely do notice you. But you have to make the first move.

[MikeInHawaii]

I had people assume I was married when I had a station wagon.

[Anonymous]

It's a similar reason why most Girls go for more Confident Guys and usually ignore Shy Nice Guys, I think it's just that most of the Girls we have liked before or we have been Rejected by have ended up not being Single.

[roy_ricky09]

When you’re ugly, and someone loves you, you know they love you for who you are. Beautiful people never know who to trust.

[Likes2drive]

All the pretty ones I see have engagement rings on and are taken , if not they just don’t want to date anyone

[Anonymous]

Because it's easier to make the assumption and not make a move than it is to make a move and be shot down

[blondfrog]

Cmon seriously? And I'm sure women are shocked when a man says he is single.

[Ehjoh1]

Some guys just find it scary to approach them and fill in their own thoughts for them lol

[RuthlessAggression]

Isn't that the point of being a girl... is to be pretty?

[boobliker]

it down to the others guy looking at your girl all the time

[hafinjun]

Because because that's as good an excuse as any for why they are too shy to approach beautiful woman

[Guardian45]

It's true beauty can belie reality. Lord knows my troubles.😆

[Anonymous]

Well statistics prove that women have way more options than men do on dating apps and online dating

[Subarugirl]

and that makes sense considering that is more dangerous and much higher risk for women..

[Juxtapose]

@Subarugirl can a man ruin your life with a single accusation?

[Subarugirl]

@Juxtapose I'm more concerned about losing my life or being raped or trafficked than my reputation.

[Slartybartfast]

@Subarugirl men are five times as likely to be murdered , never taught to be careful , in fact conditioned to ignore their own personal safety and are the most targeted by scammers and criminals online dating. .

Think about it, if you want to rob someone it's 1000 times easier to get a guy to show up.

[Subarugirl]

@Slartybartfast and you think that’s a good thing?….

[Slartybartfast]

@Subarugirl it's easier for a man to get murdered then to find a relationship online. And IMHO a better end result.

Job interviews are easier to get and more fun than dating is for a man.

If I had all the money I spent being used because "I'm a man and it's men's job" I could have retired at 27.

Women have 19,000 ways of saying "let them eat cake" , they won't admit dating is truly horrible for men , as in I'd rather eat glass and die a slow painful death kinda harsh.

Again it's easier to explain physics to a rock then explain to women the absolute hell that is the modern dating environment for men , and you'll get more understanding from a rock.

[Subarugirl]

@Slartybartfast no one is forcing you into a relationship and it kind of sounds like you are trying to justify just how many women are sexually assaulted.
If you don't want to be in a relationship then don't be in one. Obviously you don't see value in it and that is absolutely fine... so why are you complaining about it?

[Slartybartfast]

@Subarugirl wow, you stretched that out with a totally horrible and hominem attack on my character which just proves the other poster correct about women trying to ruin a man with words.

Typical.

[Subarugirl]

@Slartybartfast uhhh no I'm just saying that is how its coming across...… im not attacking your character hon, im just letting you know how what you are saying is coming across, because I am pretty sure that wasn't your intention, and I thought that you should know.

[Texaskid1]

@Subarugirl some of the guys here do exagerate bit but it is stoll much harder for a guy to date. I don't like dating at all- it is a lot of work, a lot of stress, and is not fun at all- going on a date is more of an unpleasant chore for most men. This is the main reason I don't date anymore- I find that my life ia less stressfull.

And for the recod I am not ugly nor am I an incel.

[Slartybartfast]

@Texaskid1 you shouldn't have to preemptively deny an attack on your person like being called an incel etc. Ad hominem is as bad as whataboutism these days.

[Subarugirl]

@Texaskid1 and there is nothing wrong with that... how ever what I do have a problem with is when I see someone complain about how unfair things are then then admiralty they don't want it anyways, but still complain about something that doesn't apply to them.
That would be like me bitching and moaning about how unfair and unenjoyable basketball is while explicitly expressing how I have no desire to play or watch it...

[Subarugirl]

@Slartybartfast I wasn't attacking you hon, I can see that this is an emotional topic for you but I was trying to communicate how what you were saying was coming across, next time I will try to be more delicate so that you don't feel so attacked.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl If women are Sooooo worried about getting killed/trafficked than why do Sooooo many women ride the Tinder cock carousel? It seems women are. ire afraid of nit getting attention than of getting killed.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin most don't... but those that do stay safe by not being a complete moron and meeting up with strangers in an isolated place where no one knows where they are. They turn on their location, meet in a public place, carry mace, let their friends know where they are going and keep their drinks covered... as former law enforcement, I would have thought that you'd know that.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl As a former LEO I know what women SHOULD do, but I see women bouncing from guy to guy and keeping a "roster", which only elevates potential for harm.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin yeah and I see guys do the same thing... however it is odd that you don't seem to take issue when they do it.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl Only a tiny fraction of men do this.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin So I guess the phrase "a notch on his belt" was just a phrase used to describe that tiny minority... that odd though since, statistically man have 2 more sexual partner in their life time than women do on average.

[Slartybartfast]

@Subarugirl "delicate", while spearing to 'apologize' you sneak in a side jab implying I'm delicate. Sly..

[Subarugirl]

@Slartybartfast first of all I was not apologizing I was clarifying. Secondly, I did not say nor did I imply that you are delicate. What I did do is imply that this is a sensitive topic for you... which it obviously is.

For future reference, do not confuse my bluntness for impudence... If I were trying to insult or attack you I would do so out right and make it exceedingly clear that was what I was doing.

[chicosuave]

@Subarugirl well you are completely wrong. Statically men are murdered every day. Plus men are mostly victims of violence. Instead of just spitting things out just do you're research. Also the men who are more likely to rape you or murder you are the men you already know. Not strangers it's the men you already know.

[Subarugirl]

@chicosuave yes I am aware of that…. So what exactly was I wrong about

[Darkrainbow]

@chicosuave So who is killing these men? women? nonsense :d
Women are the main victims of domestic violence. Go and look at the stats

[Juxtapose]

@Subarugirl oddly enough men are actually more likely to be raped in United States and that is only because of our prison system. We are also more likely to be violently assaulted.

But we're stronger on average and more capable of defending ourselves if it's an unarmed, singular attacker.

[Subarugirl]

@Juxtapose and how is that the case when 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime while for men it's 1 in 33? and who are the primary perpetrators of sexual violence?

[Juxtapose]

@Subarugirl men are clearly the rapists in male prisons.

"After asking around, and performing some calculations, the Justice Department came up with a new number: 216,000. That's 216,000 victims, not instances. These victims are often assaulted multiple times over the course of the year. The Justice Department now seems to be saying that prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008, likely making the United States the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women."

www.google.com/.../us-more-men-raped-than-women

[Anonymous]

so you say They are not dating and they are having a hard time getting a boyfriend. Which is it?