You can blame over inflated egos, which makes a 5 believe she is a 10 while believing she is entitled to men who are way out of their league.. Among other things.
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Yeah, I agree that this is certainly a factor as well.
Women who have grown up never hearing the word “no.” Also, women who have been coddled by the men in their lives so that the creation of entitlement, over-inflated ego, and insensitivity exist.
American women are too bossy and don't know how to be submissive and are too egotistic. They have lost their feminity which attracts masculinity. Simple. They have become masculine.
@zzzrow this is exactly the thinking that pushes men away.
Nature shows that men are the leaders. They are stronger. Women are partners, helpers. If nature's balance is offset, there are bound to be consequences.
If you're a female, you can easily get your way around a man without raising shoulders with him.
If a man is confident that he's your caregiver, he naturally wants to do more just like u wanna do more for your kids.
Women are not enjoying men because they feel equal with men.
I used to be this way too but I naturally discovered how to enjoy my man and Im not someone with dating experience. But I get my way most of the time by being innocent and making him feel like my warrior. It's easy. He crosses oceans for me.
If its so natural, why do women need to force themselves to give into men? Im naturally the opposite of whag you claim. History has shown that the way you describe leave women being abused and with no basic rights. Is that what you think we should be like?
@zzzrow that's not it at all. I'm just saying it's best to apply wisdom. Many women are too mannish. That's my major point. I'm not saying lose your independence, no. Get a job or business or whatever and ensure you're financially independent. But when it comes to how you relate with your man, do not act like you're his boss. Let him be a man.
I'm not saying tolerate abuse, no. Refute it. In fact, walk away. But in your day to day affairs let him know he's your king by your behavior. He should know he is with a woman and not a man.
In the end you're still in control without looking that way. It is an art that many women need to learn.
“Let him know he's your king” 😂😂😂 you're beyond creepy. If a man can't love a woman as his equal, thats his problem, not mine. Im not gonna suppress myself so a man can feel good about himself.
I think the cause was primarily economic. Women didn't need men as much economically and many men face a lot of economic precariousness. Casual sex is readily available, so why commit and risk losing so much if the marriage doesn't work out?
Note that higher earners, who don't face this economic instability/precariousness, still have high marriage rates and relatively low divorce rates.
Honestly, I feel like a lot of this is confirmation bias. Let me explain- I used to feel this way too. I worried that a lot of men don’t want to marry anymore or commit, but that’s not true. Most men and women want a partner who is a good fit for them. No one wants to go about life alone all the time. I think there’s a subset of men who don’t want to marry, but I believe that’s how it’s always sort of been. Same for women. I think if anything it’s more socially acceptable for people to not get married by a certain age as we have more options of what to do with our lives and the social standards are more elastic than they have been historically.
Women are less willing to take on a romantic partner that doesn’t contribute to the relationship in a meaningful way. Women want partners, not men they have to mother. They are looking for men that contribute emotionally, intellectually and physically, and aren’t willing tel settle for someone who do not meet their needs.
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I don’t think it is that at all.
If it was, I think more men would want to marry/approach women.
What you just described seems like an ideal woman for most men.
So basically you think that men are less inclined to get married because they are now facing the same consequences that women historically have for thousands of years?
Men are less happy they there in the past as well... that doesn't prove anything.
I'll clarify, for the grand majority of history, men took no issue with women selling their bodies as long as it benefited them... no it's suddenly an issues because it is benefiting the people who own those bodies. If you don't want to get romantically involved with a sex worker then don't, but don't complain about how people chose to earn a living. As for promiscuity, men don't seem to have an issue with promiscuity at all as long as they are benefiting from it, but when a women benefits and enjoys the same activities that men do... then all of a sudden it is a problem? There is a big double standard there, men don't seem to take any issues what so ever with other men being promiscuous, but when a women does the same exact thing... then it's an issue...… that is called hypocrisy.
Legally... apart from the last 100 years, before that women had no legal rights to he body or her children. Her husband literally owned her. You want to know why women are more likely to get the children and property in a divorce? Because she is more likely to get a lawyer, sacrifice her career and education to do the majority domestic labor and child care, which men tend not to value but the court takes into account when judging domestic disputes.
Men in other first world countries, generally contribute more emotionally, domestically and physically to their households than men typically do in the united states, where the mindset that domestic labor and child care is the woman's job is widely excepted.
@landingout2 Lol let me get this right... most women are pointless because we don't love you? lol You do realize that being hot... doesn't automatically make you a loveable person... your character, integrity and personality does though.
“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)
because the bible obviously does. Its also okay with abortion, as long as the man wants it, it's also okay with killing you own children if they are rebellious... you down for that too?
@landingout2 well the Bible says in 1 Peter 2:18, Saint Peter writes “Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.” It’s all right there in the Bible…
So you think abortion is wrong but stoning your child to death is okay…. That’s… logical
@landingout2 even though there is a literal abortion ritual in Numbers….. Numbers 5:11-31. You know the 4th book of the Bible, the book right after the one you just quoted
@landingout2 You better not be wearing mixed fabrics or work on the Sabbath either… those are your bibles rules too… but I guess the only ones you care about are the ones that gives you a sense of power and control…. Maybe try reading your Bible before making a fool out of yourself boy.
@landingout2 says who? Because the Bible you apparently know berry little about says not to judge others…. A few times.
Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Luke 6:37 ESV
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;”
James 4:12 ESV
There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
Maybe try reading your Bible before trying to be a bigot with a moral superiority complex you fucking hypocrite
@landingout2 what truth? You said you have the right to judge others…. When the Bible in fact says not to. I don’t hate you, I disagree with you. You think you have the right to kill women, when in fact the Bible’s says “ Thou shalt not murder“. That’s one of the 10 commandments. You said I’m an atheist. I’m not. “Thou Shalt not bare false witness”.
Do your self a favor and actually read the Bible….
1) you are not allowed to judge without a cause I HAVE A CAUSE
2) stop lying to me YOU HATE ME, YOU DO NOT LOVE ME you did not pray for me before you knew who I was YET I PRAYED FOR YOU
3) I have all the right to kill any women who kidnaps and cheats the fact im even allowing you sluts to walk around and breathe is a blessing
4) I don't believe you just like so many other men and women who say they believe I ask them simple questions and they can't answer yet its right there in the bible just be quiet you sound stupid
@landingout2 no I don’t hate you. I think you are misguided and misinformed, that doesn’t mean I hate you. You don’t have the right to kill anyone and if you think you do you are delusional. I don’t need nor do I want your prayers you can keep them to yourself hon. If you’re gonna quote the Bible then you should make sure to read it. Have the day you deserve. I’m done wasting my time with you and your delusions.
70 percent of women initiate most divorces in America. witch mean there is something horribly wrong with women today. we can't take them seriously anymore.
@Subarugirl We have the Subaru condundrum. You want the chew, but you do it have half assed. Act like you can do every man's job, long as you put in a Silly Nanny's worth of a wad, aka pouch. If you knew it could plant you side ways you may not attempt it.
You take it straight. Until you can take a whole tin in one cheek? Non pouch? Before ralphing? Or just straight up enjoy it like I do? You have no say.
@chicosuave I think you mean that 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women. If you think that’s messed up you should look at the statistics for sex crimes and violent crimes and who commits the majority of those.
@Subarugirl Lafayette, Indiana. Indeed. You should have pride. We all do. My Toyota was made in California. Where in my state some folks gave me shit? Why? Because Ford decided to make it's Ranger's in bum fuck Mexico where it was once made in St. Paul. We all do this thing, where my Dad took a kit Gun. In Smyrna TN. Mom sent it to him. He was hunting on Jack Daniels land. Doing it to it legally, he received a kit. A muzzle loader. Taking a dump on JD's land, whilst having off working hours, he blasted that deer, point blank.
No one gives a shit. While we do give a shit. You aren't supposed to act like you can enter Detroit rock city without being offered Asprin. Because your butthole isn't at ease...
The risks and costs have risen, and the rewards and benefits have fallen, dramatically at that. When something rewards less and pays off less, you get less of it.
All I know is I don’t want to get married. And if we can both afford it I’d like to have my own space… don’t want kids. Already have an 18 yr old and 14 yr old. I just want to meet a funny guy who loves music and the outdoors. He also respects woman and all people. I also respect men and all people. We can see eachother 3-4xs a week. And go on vacations. To me this sounds like a great alternative to the old school marriage.
Blu eyed woman. I can and will enjoy kids. I already act as if one of my buddies is enjoying developmental baseball leagues. Never had a sister. Where do you want to go?
Women used to need a man to get by in the world. Men wanted a woman, but they never needed one. Times have changed. Today women no longer need men, and men no longer want women, at least for anything more than sex. Such is the bed we have made for ourselves.
that's only a myth. Women never needed a man to depend on him financially. she could live with her family for the rest of her life and still work. women back in the 1900s could still work and earn money but they had limited jobs of course. that idea only came from the feminist. technology just made you more picky and undesirable for marriage. today 70% percent of women initiate most divorces. men dont want to commit and sign papers to something we are guaranteed is not gonna last. those are the main reasons. only smart men dont get married now in days. but one day marriage will be obsolete because men will not give that power to women.
@chicosuave I'm talking about pre-1900s. Whether she lived with her family (father), a husband, or another man/men, in many places women needed a man to survive because the world was a very physical place back then.
Half of marriages do not end in divorce so no, you are not guaranteed it's not going to last.
Yes it does look at the stats. 50 percent of marriages end up in divorce but 70% of marriages are intiniated by women. Search it on Google and you will see
The typical woman gets drunk on power way more than men. Too many men gave power to women and now it's like that old saying about how power corrupts. Western women expect a man to give her the moon in exchange for nothing. Men have decided that it's a bad deal.
On a side note, in cultures where men kept their balls, the women are more feminine, traditional & wife material.
What has changed within American men that have caused women to be less interested?
Women have made advances (feminism) but men (well, biological males) have not always responded well to the changing times, instead holding on to old privileges and to outdated and unrealistic expectations of men and women.
1) Fewer women are legitimately relationship material, leading more and more guys to get used to expecting to get less and less out of relationships.
2) More and more cost and risk associated with pursuing and engaging in a relationship.
The rational way to make any decision boils down to a benefit to cost assessment. For more and more guys, the potential reward is just worth less than the risk. So they find other things to do instead.
Modern women have no respect for men (and I mean men, not immature man-children), and no concept of fairness in relationships, which makes marriage a losing proposition for us.
Why would I put my future in peril when there's nothing to gain? Risk without the possibility of reward is foolishness
Not American but from what I see it seems to me that American society has embraced degeneracy... Everything is use and dump... life is one big dopamine rush.. Hookup culture is rampant.. Relationships doesn't mean shit... What's so special or significant about a girlfriend that has slept with a lot of other guys and will probably get bored with you sooner or later and move to next one... You're just a number...
The face to face meetings may be harder for guys to get on tinder because women get way more matches and live aprouches for doing nothing but looking good.
As far as marriages go, divorce lawyers are expensive. Millionaires seem to avoid marriages to save the women from the reputation of golddiger.
The know your worth movement gets my vote. Its kinda like letting a home owner set there property value when they sell. They'll think its worth way more than what the market will. Same applies to the know your worth. Most overvalue their sense of self. So what you get are women being super picky because because they "know their worth". Thats not the case and not the same thing as confidence. It gives a person unrealistic expectations. Thats my thought on the matter.
What has changed with American men to have no sense of responsibility, personal goals or ambition, or having a compelling desire for things without investing any effort? And then blaming women when they can't get a girlfriend?
Well I am not inclined to approach Caucasian women because they are more trouble than they are worth. I don't say that is a hard and fast rule but generally they don't like men being men so why bother with them?
I think it has something to do with 3rd wave feminism and its push towards hypocritical nonsense that in practise makes women look and seem very undesirable.
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You can blame over inflated egos, which makes a 5 believe she is a 10 while believing she is entitled to men who are way out of their league.. Among other things.
Yeah, I agree that this is certainly a factor as well.
Women who have grown up never hearing the word “no.” Also, women who have been coddled by the men in their lives so that the creation of entitlement, over-inflated ego, and insensitivity exist.
American women are too bossy and don't know how to be submissive and are too egotistic. They have lost their feminity which attracts masculinity. Simple. They have become masculine.
Yeah true, it's genetics too, thats why some men leave the country in search for traditional women too tho
This is a scary reply, especially from a woman. Its bossy when its a woman but normal for a man?
@STA50 Coach Red Pill left for Ukraine where he married a Ukrainian woman and has two daughters
@zzzrow this is exactly the thinking that pushes men away.
Nature shows that men are the leaders. They are stronger. Women are partners, helpers. If nature's balance is offset, there are bound to be consequences.
If you're a female, you can easily get your way around a man without raising shoulders with him.
If a man is confident that he's your caregiver, he naturally wants to do more just like u wanna do more for your kids.
Women are not enjoying men because they feel equal with men.
I used to be this way too but I naturally discovered how to enjoy my man and Im not someone with dating experience. But I get my way most of the time by being innocent and making him feel like my warrior. It's easy. He crosses oceans for me.
If its so natural, why do women need to force themselves to give into men? Im naturally the opposite of whag you claim. History has shown that the way you describe leave women being abused and with no basic rights. Is that what you think we should be like?
@zzzrow that's not it at all. I'm just saying it's best to apply wisdom. Many women are too mannish. That's my major point. I'm not saying lose your independence, no. Get a job or business or whatever and ensure you're financially independent. But when it comes to how you relate with your man, do not act like you're his boss. Let him be a man.
I'm not saying tolerate abuse, no. Refute it. In fact, walk away. But in your day to day affairs let him know he's your king by your behavior. He should know he is with a woman and not a man.
In the end you're still in control without looking that way. It is an art that many women need to learn.
“Let him know he's your king” 😂😂😂 you're beyond creepy. If a man can't love a woman as his equal, thats his problem, not mine. Im not gonna suppress myself so a man can feel good about himself.
@zzzrow if he is your king, you are his queen. To each their own.
@Gloree. Yes! Absolutely correct!
@zzzrow I agree with everything you wrote.
I agree with everything you wrote about zzzrow. I hit the wrong reply button. She is creepy
@ethanallen I guess equality and mutual respect is creepy 🤷♀️
@ethanallen I guess equality and mutual respect is creepy 🤷♀️
I think the cause was primarily economic. Women didn't need men as much economically and many men face a lot of economic precariousness. Casual sex is readily available, so why commit and risk losing so much if the marriage doesn't work out?
Note that higher earners, who don't face this economic instability/precariousness, still have high marriage rates and relatively low divorce rates.
Honestly, I feel like a lot of this is confirmation bias. Let me explain- I used to feel this way too. I worried that a lot of men don’t want to marry anymore or commit, but that’s not true. Most men and women want a partner who is a good fit for them. No one wants to go about life alone all the time. I think there’s a subset of men who don’t want to marry, but I believe that’s how it’s always sort of been. Same for women. I think if anything it’s more socially acceptable for people to not get married by a certain age as we have more options of what to do with our lives and the social standards are more elastic than they have been historically.
Women are less willing to take on a romantic partner that doesn’t contribute to the relationship in a meaningful way. Women want partners, not men they have to mother. They are looking for men that contribute emotionally, intellectually and physically, and aren’t willing tel settle for someone who do not meet their needs.
I don’t think it is that at all.
If it was, I think more men would want to marry/approach women.
What you just described seems like an ideal woman for most men.
Well it’s pretty straightforward. Why do you think men are less inclined to get married and make that level of commitment?
Well, several people already alluded to what those reasons may be.
•Not saying the majority, but you have a lot of women now into selling their bodies in one shape or form, whether online or in-person
•promiscuity
•legal issues (men fearing losing custody of their child, wife taking all or most assets, etc)
It’s not like this everywhere in the US and even less so everywhere in the world.
This is specifically centered around women in the US.
So basically you think that men are less inclined to get married because they are now facing the same consequences that women historically have for thousands of years?
Not sure I follow.
Either way, this all can’t be good for men and for women.
Women, are reporting more unhappiness today and than women of the past.
@Subarugirl. Than why do so many women have fuck buddy's and rosters of men? Why are so many women willing to share a man with one or more women?
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@Subarugirl
women are prostitutes
(love of money root of all evil)
most women are evil
and will be thrown away
Men are less happy they there in the past as well... that doesn't prove anything.
I'll clarify, for the grand majority of history, men took no issue with women selling their bodies as long as it benefited them... no it's suddenly an issues because it is benefiting the people who own those bodies. If you don't want to get romantically involved with a sex worker then don't, but don't complain about how people chose to earn a living.
As for promiscuity, men don't seem to have an issue with promiscuity at all as long as they are benefiting from it, but when a women benefits and enjoys the same activities that men do... then all of a sudden it is a problem? There is a big double standard there, men don't seem to take any issues what so ever with other men being promiscuous, but when a women does the same exact thing... then it's an issue...… that is called hypocrisy.
Legally... apart from the last 100 years, before that women had no legal rights to he body or her children. Her husband literally owned her. You want to know why women are more likely to get the children and property in a divorce? Because she is more likely to get a lawyer, sacrifice her career and education to do the majority domestic labor and child care, which men tend not to value but the court takes into account when judging domestic disputes.
Men in other first world countries, generally contribute more emotionally, domestically and physically to their households than men typically do in the united states, where the mindset that domestic labor and child care is the woman's job is widely excepted.
@KrakenAttackin Do you have statistics on that?
@Subarugirl
men are less happy cause men have realized
women do not love us
even if we are hot
so most of your gender is pointless
and I do not give a fuck what these satanic men think
we are gonna get rid of them also lol
Leviticus 19:29
Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore;
lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.
society changes or they will be destroyed
@landingout2 Lol let me get this right... most women are pointless because we don't love you? lol You do realize that being hot... doesn't automatically make you a loveable person... your character, integrity and personality does though.
“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)
you think that slavery is okay?
because the bible obviously does. Its also okay with abortion, as long as the man wants it, it's also okay with killing you own children if they are rebellious... you down for that too?
@Subarugirl
why are you talking lol
what im saying is fact
and easily provable
and stop talking
GOD never told the human race to enslave any human
just the giants
we are allowed to enslave and kill the giants
as we see fit
and no the Book Of Enoch says no abortion
it was taught by a fallen angel
and yes
we have to get rid of even family members
if they make the choice not to turn
Atheist And Believers, Would You End Your Family If They Wanted Satan? ↗
@landingout2 well the Bible says in 1 Peter 2:18, Saint Peter writes “Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.” It’s all right there in the Bible…
So you think abortion is wrong but stoning your child to death is okay…. That’s… logical
@landingout2 even though there is a literal abortion ritual in Numbers….. Numbers 5:11-31. You know the 4th book of the Bible, the book right after the one you just quoted
see if the human race actually decided to get rid of everyone who did not believe
we would not be having this conversation
and the verse in PETER is talking about a job
THATS WHY IT SAYS YOU CAN QUIT THE JOB IS YOU WANT
you don't let slaves quit their job
thats why they are slaves
@Subarugirl
Numbers 5;11
we have the right to kill you girls
if you cheat on us men
so stop talking as if you make the rules
CAUSE GODS WORDS PLAY OUT EVERYDAY
right now there is a girl on the earth being killed for cheating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mICWFTmE440&t=120s
@Subarugirl
GOD can take your kid if he wants to
your child belongs to him lol
@landingout2 then let him…. Your little book doesn’t give you any more rights than any other mythological fairy tail honey.
@landingout2 and what about the men? They are supposed to be killed for it too…
@landingout2 You better not be wearing mixed fabrics or work on the Sabbath either… those are your bibles rules too… but I guess the only ones you care about are the ones that gives you a sense of power and control…. Maybe try reading your Bible before making a fool out of yourself boy.
I have the right to judge the FALLEN ANGELS
I have the right to judge the GIANTS
I have the right to judge the HUMAN RACE
my GOD divided the NATIONS ACCORDING TO THE FALLEN ANGELS
so I will judge the nations
there is no escaping this war
non of you will escape it
it will be forced upon you whether you all like it or not
we forced it on DAMASCUS
and as you can see
thousands killed
and sent to GOD to be judged
GOOD LUCK
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qBeiNzJY6Ujq/
@landingout2 says who? Because the Bible you apparently know berry little about says not to judge others…. A few times.
Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Luke 6:37 ESV
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;”
James 4:12 ESV
There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
Maybe try reading your Bible before trying to be a bigot with a moral superiority complex you fucking hypocrite
@Subarugirl
start at 36 seconds the verse will be there
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qBeiNzJY6Ujq/
Matthew 5:22 “
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment
I HAVE PLENTY OF CAUSE TO BE ANGRY WITH THE NATIONS
and you atheist
@Subarugirl
go ahead and label me the bad dude
@landingout2 I’m not labeling you I’m calling you out for you behavior. If you don’t like it then change your behavior.
Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:
but he that endureth to the end shall be saved
you hate me for speaking the truth,
you women are always like this
thats why less women make it to heaven
so worthless
Ecclesiastes 7:28
while I was still searching
but not finding—
I found one upright man among a thousand,
but not one upright woman among them all.
@landingout2 what truth? You said you have the right to judge others…. When the Bible in fact says not to.
I don’t hate you, I disagree with you.
You think you have the right to kill women, when in fact the Bible’s says “ Thou shalt not murder“. That’s one of the 10 commandments.
You said I’m an atheist. I’m not. “Thou Shalt not bare false witness”.
Do your self a favor and actually read the Bible….
1) you are not allowed to judge without a cause I HAVE A CAUSE
2) stop lying to me YOU HATE ME, YOU DO NOT LOVE ME
you did not pray for me before you knew who I was YET I PRAYED FOR YOU
3) I have all the right to kill any women who kidnaps and cheats
the fact im even allowing you sluts to walk around and breathe is a blessing
4) I don't believe you just like so many other men and women who say they believe
I ask them simple questions and they can't answer yet its right there in the bible just be quiet
you sound stupid
@landingout2 no I don’t hate you. I think you are misguided and misinformed, that doesn’t mean I hate you.
You don’t have the right to kill anyone and if you think you do you are delusional.
I don’t need nor do I want your prayers you can keep them to yourself hon. If you’re gonna quote the Bible then you should make sure to read it. Have the day you deserve. I’m done wasting my time with you and your delusions.
@Subarugirl
I just wanted to talk to you one on one but all these people invaded
@embracethepain yeah radically extremist religious Christians have the tendency to do that…
Subarugirl, you are really bitter for a woman of only 25. Wait until you hit 50 and you have two divorces under your skirt.
@ethanallen I think you are confusing bitter with not being a doormat. That’s okay though, not everyone is keen on social cues.
I was hoping you would educate me with some Crazy Christian Bible verses.
@ethanallen I am not Christian, so I don’t use fairy tales to back up my stance.
70 percent of women initiate most divorces in America. witch mean there is something horribly wrong with women today. we can't take them seriously anymore.
@Subarugirl We have the Subaru condundrum. You want the chew, but you do it have half assed. Act like you can do every man's job, long as you put in a Silly Nanny's worth of a wad, aka pouch. If you knew it could plant you side ways you may not attempt it.
You take it straight. Until you can take a whole tin in one cheek? Non pouch? Before ralphing? Or just straight up enjoy it like I do? You have no say.
Women can and do in deed do what we do. It's just such a ghast of a good time when they can't take a long cut and walk away from it.
@bayoubob I work for Subaru smart ass
@chicosuave I think you mean that 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women. If you think that’s messed up you should look at the statistics for sex crimes and violent crimes and who commits the majority of those.
Please tell us who. By the way SubaruGirl, your company makes awesome cars. Outback is the best car for my part of the US
@ethanallen all it takes is quick google search
@Subarugirl Lafayette, Indiana. Indeed. You should have pride. We all do. My Toyota was made in California. Where in my state some folks gave me shit? Why? Because Ford decided to make it's Ranger's in bum fuck Mexico where it was once made in St. Paul. We all do this thing, where my Dad took a kit Gun. In Smyrna TN. Mom sent it to him. He was hunting on Jack Daniels land. Doing it to it legally, he received a kit. A muzzle loader. Taking a dump on JD's land, whilst having off working hours, he blasted that deer, point blank.
What was my Dad doing there in TN? Working on a Nissan Plant. The largest reroofing thing in the world by one single company.
My self? I've seen the Hyundai and Mercedes plants.
No one gives a shit. While we do give a shit. You aren't supposed to act like you can enter Detroit rock city without being offered Asprin. Because your butthole isn't at ease...
@bayoubob are you having a stroke?
The risks and costs have risen, and the rewards and benefits have fallen, dramatically at that. When something rewards less and pays off less, you get less of it.
All I know is I don’t want to get married. And if we can both afford it I’d like to have my own space… don’t want kids. Already have an 18 yr old and 14 yr old. I just want to meet a funny guy who loves music and the outdoors. He also respects woman and all people. I also respect men and all people. We can see eachother 3-4xs a week. And go on vacations. To me this sounds like a great alternative to the old school marriage.
Blu eyed woman. I can and will enjoy kids. I already act as if one of my buddies is enjoying developmental baseball leagues. Never had a sister. Where do you want to go?
If you say Bum Fuck Egypt? Or Deadwood SD. Say you like the Bad Lands? Hit me up.
Women used to need a man to get by in the world. Men wanted a woman, but they never needed one. Times have changed. Today women no longer need men, and men no longer want women, at least for anything more than sex. Such is the bed we have made for ourselves.
that's only a myth. Women never needed a man to depend on him financially. she could live with her family for the rest of her life and still work. women back in the 1900s could still work and earn money but they had limited jobs of course. that idea only came from the feminist. technology just made you more picky and undesirable for marriage. today 70% percent of women initiate most divorces. men dont want to commit and sign papers to something we are guaranteed is not gonna last. those are the main reasons. only smart men dont get married now in days. but one day marriage will be obsolete because men will not give that power to women.
@chicosuave I'm talking about pre-1900s. Whether she lived with her family (father), a husband, or another man/men, in many places women needed a man to survive because the world was a very physical place back then.
Half of marriages do not end in divorce so no, you are not guaranteed it's not going to last.
There is some truth in the other things you said.
Yes it does look at the stats. 50 percent of marriages end up in divorce but 70% of marriages are intiniated by women. Search it on Google and you will see
The typical woman gets drunk on power way more than men. Too many men gave power to women and now it's like that old saying about how power corrupts. Western women expect a man to give her the moon in exchange for nothing. Men have decided that it's a bad deal.
On a side note, in cultures where men kept their balls, the women are more feminine, traditional & wife material.
Perhaps the more interesting question...
What has changed within American men that have caused women to be less interested?
Women have made advances (feminism) but men (well, biological males) have not always responded well to the changing times, instead holding on to old privileges and to outdated and unrealistic expectations of men and women.
1) Fewer women are legitimately relationship material, leading more and more guys to get used to expecting to get less and less out of relationships.
2) More and more cost and risk associated with pursuing and engaging in a relationship.
The rational way to make any decision boils down to a benefit to cost assessment. For more and more guys, the potential reward is just worth less than the risk. So they find other things to do instead.
Modern women have no respect for men (and I mean men, not immature man-children), and no concept of fairness in relationships, which makes marriage a losing proposition for us.
Why would I put my future in peril when there's nothing to gain? Risk without the possibility of reward is foolishness
Not American but from what I see it seems to me that American society has embraced degeneracy... Everything is use and dump... life is one big dopamine rush.. Hookup culture is rampant.. Relationships doesn't mean shit... What's so special or significant about a girlfriend that has slept with a lot of other guys and will probably get bored with you sooner or later and move to next one... You're just a number...
The face to face meetings may be harder for guys to get on tinder because women get way more matches and live aprouches for doing nothing but looking good.
As far as marriages go, divorce lawyers are expensive. Millionaires seem to avoid marriages to save the women from the reputation of golddiger.
Im no expert, just sharing my opinion.
The know your worth movement gets my vote. Its kinda like letting a home owner set there property value when they sell. They'll think its worth way more than what the market will. Same applies to the know your worth. Most overvalue their sense of self. So what you get are women being super picky because because they "know their worth". Thats not the case and not the same thing as confidence. It gives a person unrealistic expectations. Thats my thought on the matter.
-woke culture
-advantage taking women
-self entiteled Karen mentality
-"the man has to provide" mentality
-justice system in women's favor,
-false rape/crime accusations
-domestic violence against men is ignored
-the concept of commitment & loyality becomes less popular
What has changed with American men to have no sense of responsibility, personal goals or ambition, or having a compelling desire for things without investing any effort? And then blaming women when they can't get a girlfriend?
Well I am not inclined to approach Caucasian women because they are more trouble than they are worth. I don't say that is a hard and fast rule but generally they don't like men being men so why bother with them?
I'm not American but i can imagine.
I think it has something to do with 3rd wave feminism and its push towards hypocritical nonsense that in practise makes women look and seem very undesirable.
Being unattractive and approaching a women can result in losing your job and even being arrested.