"A man should not date a woman he cannot afford", true or false?

[KrakenAttackin]

TRUE

FALSE

[dynamicyandere]

I chose True, but this is why:


I answered in the context of the term “afford” referring to the cost it takes to keep the relationship and the attraction alive.


This cost is not just monetary. Throwing money at a woman will not cause them to love you.


You need to take care of all their needs, or at least what they want to receive from you as their boyfriend.


And this goes both ways. They too, will need to provide what you expect out of them as a girlfriend.


You both need to feel fulfilled in the relationship.


What will it cost you in time, attention, money, and more, to keep her feeling happy and attracted to you?


And for her, what will it cost her in time, attention, money, and more, to keep YOU attracted to her?


For either case, it may or may not include something monetary.


Some women love a man who can completely provide for her.


Some women can make their own money and don’t care about that. But, what they want is your time and attention.


Some women struggle with money and STILL will not leave a man that is poor.


Everybody has unique wants and needs and other things that make them feel happy and fulfilled in a relationship.


If YOU are not willing to pay the cost, you shouldn’t date her.


If SHE is not willing to pay the cost, she shouldn’t date you.


For example, the cost of dating me does not cost a penny. I am happy to provide every single living expense. But… The cost of dating me requires a ridiculous amount of loyalty and commitment to me. The cost of dating me requires one’s submission. The cost of dating me requires one to pour their heart and soul into the relationship. These things (and much more) are things I do not compromise on.


Not everybody can fit the bill. And that’s okay. They may go on their way.


But, the point is. Everybody has a cost when it comes to dating them. Everybody has unique wants and needs. And for 2 people to match, they need to be able to fulfill each other’s wants and needs, which may or may not require money.

[PeteBy]

It's a bit of an alien concept to me as I have never technically dated. Certainly have never showered anyone with gifts and although I have occasionally bought a meal & drinks. That's not with anyone I don't already know reasonably well and AFTER a relationship of sorts has already been established. Likewise she'd buy a meal etc as well.

Never bought a female stranger a drink and nor would I/why would I? Have never 'dated' in that respect. In the getting to know you stage it'd largely be buying our own or sharing equally.

If finance comes into a relationship at the dating stage, for me; alarm bells would be ringing already. A woman should be independent enough to share the costs and be there because she wants to get to know me, not expecting free food and drinks.

If she's reliant on or expecting me to pay for everything from day one, then this would be doomed to failure as it isn't going to change.

[Anonymous]

90%... If he isn't making at least 90% of what I do, his involvement in my life as a significant other will lower my standard of living. To compensate he better be a beast in bed.

I don't say this to be ugly (and while I make a decent living, I'm not wealthy) but if he lowers my standard of living too much, there's a chance I will resent him for it.

I don't require jewelry (the only jewelry I ever wear are some stupid rubber bracelets that were gifted to me by close friends) but I do LOVE to travel, sometimes by car but usually by motorcycle... And I go on weekend runs a lot... If he can't cover his half of the mutual expenses (like rooms) and his expenses, I'd have to change doing what I love... I've worked for 20 years to be able to afford to do what I love to do. So he's going to have to buy or have his own bike (because I'm not riding bitch) and be able to afford what I do or something's gonna have to give, and it's not going to be me.

I don't look for special treatment or to get anything out of a man... Well, besides his you know teehee... But I won't lower my standard of living for one either. I haven't found one yet who was worth lowering my standard of living for.

[VIVANT]

Eh I’m a romantic lol I believe in love. I would never date a guy based in his income no matter how poor or how well off I was doing. I’ve almost died several times and I value genuine spiritual connection as well as compassion respect honesty and affection mountains beyond any material item imaginable. You can’t buy soul depth.

course it depends on what you yourself are looking for. My lifestyle & expectations are very very simple and I just want enough money to live decently. I don’t have grand expensive plans. My favorite activity is learning something in fresh air & a tree ♥️

[dynamicyandere]

“You can’t buy soul depth.”

I love how you put that. I agree with that statement 100 percent.

[VIVANT]

@dynamicyandere

Thank you dynamic I agree with you 💯 😁😊😊

[VIVANT]

@KrakenAttackin
Thank you 🙏🏼 ♥️

[Valso]

"I would never date a guy based in his income"

Haha, right! All women say the same thing but the moment a rich guy appears on the scene, they quickly forget what they were saying and jump in his bed immediately.

[Adam_INTJ]

@Valso go be butthurt somewhere else.
You're wrong. Because "all women" is an absolute statement. Absolute statements are almost never valid in sociology. Definitely not here. I don't know of a woman in my family who ISN'T an exception to your "all."

To make your claim, you need to actually show evidence for it.

Hitchen's Razor: that which is asserted with little evidence can be dismissed with little evidence." You are dismissed.

[Valso]

@Adam_INTJ Go fuck yourself, kid!

[Adam_INTJ]

Ironic that you call me kid with that juvenile reply. It resembles middle schooler talk.

Nothing you've said warrants further response. So until you've said something intelligent that is worth responding to, I won't waste more time here.

[TonyMetal___86]

@VIVANT a mature princess speaking here 😁
MR MR told me that all the skyscrapper girl's words are genuine 😌🦜

[OlderAndWiser]

What about "A woman should not make herself unaffordable for the right man?"

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. Because he cannot be the 'right man" if he doesn't have resources to provide.

[OlderAndWiser]

If a woman's highest priority is a guy's ability to provide for her, she should not be upset if his highest priority is getting that pussy. And if he's getting pussy in exchange for how much money he spends on her, that just makes her a fancy whore, or maybe a not-so-fancy whore.

[crossdressingrihno]

A logical fallacy!

Yeah if you pay for a. Woman to sleep with you she’s a prostitute buuuut if you ad a title to it like girlfriend she is not a a prostitute… she’s “high maintenance” XD

Yeah it’s kinda when you think about it

[KrakenAttackin]

@OlderAndWiser. PRECISELY!

[LindsayR07]

@crossdressingrihno https://images.app.goo.gl/Ki3dnHK7nBs5rVWh6

[Pinay_ako]

🤣 women are for sale now to date? 😑

[Mia-Wallace]

I don't know.

I think men should date women they know at least for a few years and vice versa.

Date close friends and build a life together. Most people don't have that many close friends outside of their social class. Problem solved.

Anything outside of that is risky. If you take risks with something as important as having a relationship because of a dream girl or dream guy in your head, you make yourself exposed to all kinds of danger and damage.

I think a lot of relationships are crap because people value illusions and shallow expectations more than genuine frienship, which is what every good relationship is and what every risky choice that somehow yields positive results transforms to.

[Agagagagaga]

“I think men should date women they know at least for a few years and vice versa.”

Ah, so break free from the friend-zone while simultaneously not ruining the friendship or making the other person feel pressured to change the status quo. Who knows, maybe you’ll get lucky and suddenly the person will now feel uncomfortable around you because of your feelings for them, and there goes your vaunted close friendship.

[DoctorSex]

This question is deep in so many dimensions my friend. Well done.

If he cannot afford her, that speaks less of the man or his financial status. But of the one who believes she is too expensive for certain men.

Honestly, I could write an article about this topic and the hidden conversation that's actually taking place when a person believes another cannot "afford" them.

But in conclusion, the man who believes he cannot afford her and the woman who believes she is too expensive to be afforded...

Have both been miseducated.

Kind regards,

DoctorSex

[MCheetah]

False. A man should not date a woman he can't love for free.

I'm a human being, not an ATM. Take your ass to AshleyMadison. com if you're looking for a sugar daddy, honey. Disappointed in all the simps and b*tch-men voting Yes to this. Then again, they're probably Boomers.

[Lliam]

True. If she wants to live on a yacht or an estate, you'd better have what she wants.
The key is to date women who share your values.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Lliam So, does this make the relationship transactional?

[Lliam]

If she wants stuff like that, yes, it would. That's not my kinda girl.

[Lionman95]

true not only financially but also mentally. I think many guys follow a woman and fall for her because she´s beautiful but that shouldn´t be the main criteria for a relationship. True both partners should arrange to work a relationship out. But more than often it´s the guy choosing the woman and taking the iniative for dating. Therefore I´d say it´s true.

[DaveJord]

I said false because it all depends on the women, the man and the situation. These days you can just as easily say a women should not date a man she can't afford. Buyer beware more or less.

I know its not traditionally thought of this way, but these days everything has change or is changing.

[Adam_INTJ]

Most women have a minimum expectations for guys financially. Guys who are completely broke are almost always off the table, after high school.

But after a long time of being alone and rejecting guys, she'll become more open minded, and give guys a discount.

Part of it, though, is the actual price of dates. Can't afford to get dinner? Can't afford gas to go on a road trip?

If all your dailies need to be cheap or free, it will get boring. Everyone has a different desire for excitement and fun on dates, so it differs.

[Valso]

That's why I don't date anymore. 😆 There's not a single woman in my country that I can afford. They all want you to have a monthly salary equal or higher than that of the CEO of the national bank ($83,000), at least one S-class Mercedes and a summer house in Hawaii. In other words they're all gold diggers with no exceptions.

I used to get them drunk to fuck them but I stopped doing that as well. Now if I desperately need sex, I'll just rent one of the cheap prostitutes for an hour or two, 2-3 times a month. That's still 10 times cheaper than having a girlfriend.

[JamesDiaz11]

A guy shouldn't date a girl if he can't afford a girlfriend, would be my suggestion. If you're unable to support a woman, don't interact with her towards an ideal of you supporting her in life.

However, clearly there are some girls who are more "costly" than others, in that they expect/ demand more than the average girl.

[Staximus]

If I dated some woman and she had money or wanted a guy with money and said something like "let's go travel in Europe for a month" the first thing I would think of "who's paying my share? Santa Claus?" I can't afford that fancy shit.

[CallmeTheKnight]

If she wants to be a bill, then she has to be willing compromise with herself to enjoy a certain lifestyle.

No such woman deserves companionship

[YollyM]

That is not only true but it's Gospel if you don't want that woman to resent you for lowering her standard of living should you two get married or live together for a prolonged period of time, of course not always but it's a possibility.

[KrakenAttackin]

@YollyM. So, what does she trade for the resources he provides?

[YollyM]

If he solely provides financially without needing her help,
Then she solely handles household duties and becomes the primary parent so to speak if there are children involved.

If he needs help handling the finances then obviously she'd need help with household duties and taking care of the kids.

[DaveJord]

@KrakenAttackin She said gospel so I will assume she would be a humble women and appreciate a good man way more then solely what he provides economically. So lets give her the benefit of the doubt... she's 19.

[DaveJord]

@YollyM Just know over time peoples needs change. Kids grow up and leave the house. So finically the burden needs to shift from just cleaning the house, and caring for the kids and contributing finically. Because once the kids are gone its about saving, paying for college for the kids, and preparing for retirement so the women should be willing to make that transition from the household to the work force as well. Because your man may not wan to work into his 60's and 70's because you stayed home with kids for first 18 years or so and now you don't want to get a job for the first time at 40.

[KrakenAttackin]

@DaveJord I genuinely hope you are correct.

[DaveJord]

I hope to for her shake not ours... lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@DaveJord Why? She can just as easily divorce him and secure her retirement.

[YollyM]

@DaveJord so you agree with the second part of my statement to split both financial and domestic responsibilities.

[DaveJord]

@KrakenAttackin LOL... no she can divorce him after 20 years and secure her half of his retirement like my ex-wife did to me. Kids were out of the house and she didn't want to work... I told to get a job, or quit complaining or get to packing and she divorced me... took half my retirement then when out and got a job for 50K a year with her master degree... and got 20K of my retirement as well. So she makes 70K and and I make 110K instead of her making 50K and me making 130K.

You see I was that guy that could of afforded the women I had... but she had no appreciation for that. She could of been a kept women... but she messed it all up with your constant lack of appreciation and sense of entitlement. So that's why I said lets give her the benefit of the doubt at 19, that she will not be that type of person or women.

[DaveJord]

@YollyM yup... equal split from the start. Not 20 years after the fact and then decide that doesn't work for you because you gave birth to the kids.

[YollyM]

@DaveJord The house doesn't suddenly start cleaning itself when the kids reach 18, also you don't get all the time and energy you put in into the household upkeep.

If you expect your wife to be half the man for you (by helping with the bills) and all the woman at the same time (by also doing housewife duties).. I don't even know what to call that.

If you want a housewife you should ensure that you have the financial means to provide for everything that she, the kids, the house may need just like when women weren't allowed to work.

If you're not willing to put in the work then you should expect the 50/50 dynamic in everything.

[YollyM]

@DaveJord ohh now I get it you're speaking from experience.

Well my dad was the sole provider and my mom was a house wife, we went to good schools lived in a good community and he appreciated everything that mom did for us and him.

Also my mom left her career in medicine to be a house wife because my dad didn't want her to work and she didn't mind quiting because dad maintained her standard of living as when she was providing for herself.

Their dynamic worked because my dad could handle the financial responsibilities (he's a cultured man) and they both were comfortable with their roles.

But I understand where you're coming from sir.

[DaveJord]

@YollyM I am happy for them. I thought I had a similar deal... but it didn't turn out that way. After kids where gone the deal was she would put her degree to use and therefore we could both retire at 55 as millionaires and travel. But she had different ideas, like not working and taking half of everything and her share of 800K in savings and retirement accounts and selling all the properties and still not working.

But in the end it did not turn out that way... she still had to get a job and I got out of alimony but she got half of everything else, and I was forced to sell the properties. But its all good I am still set for life as a very cultured man myself! ;)

But if I had to do over I would not of supported her for 20 years and she would of worked as hard as I did to build the empire that she tore down. And if I was women, I would want to be able to support myself independent of an man with one or without him.

[YollyM]

@DaveJord That's what I want for myself, financial independence. It makes life so much easier.

[DaveJord]

That's good, I am sure you dad is very great guy and your mother is amazing women... but its rare and hard to come by even when you do all the right things and truly care about the other person. My mom and dad made look so easy, but trust me its not. I never truly appreciated that growing up, until I was 10 years into a bad marriage.

So yes, always make sure you can take care of yourself first! Be beholden to no one but your family, the lord and yourself first. That's a very good value and principal to up hold for yourself. Once you can do that for yourself, then you will be free to open your heart to a some one that you know you can truly love and love you back in the same way.

[LindsayR07]

Traditionally... Our bodies.

[crossdressingrihno]

Technically yes




A woman can make or break a man


Sometimes that thing that pushes a man to success is his lover. You can call it romantic inspiration. A power that can drive many men to success.

[JosyJosy]

I say true. But affording someone, that's not material but relationships in general. You shouldn't date a person you can't afford. If you have other things to deal with yourself I think it's best to sort that out before dating someone.

[Anjoomkabir]

I would take a personality over a bank account.

[Andres77]

I voted yes but…did you ever see the movie Hitch?

for me, Kevin james was the heart of that movie.

you know what? Never ignore your dreams

[Andres77]

www.bing.com/.../search

[KrakenAttackin]

@Andres77. That's a different proposition. A Giga Chad doesn't have to have money to date women.

[Andres77]

I have no idea what that is

[MikeInHawaii]

And there are women out there who could bankrupt Elon Musk!

[Ms_Facesitter]

False in the literal sense. I am not ready to date just yet, I can't afford me a good man yet because of that.

[TroyDT]

If you have to afford her then she is not worth dating.

[Subarugirl]

If you cannot afford to invest your time, effort or emotional labor into your relationship, then you shouldn't be in that relationship.

Every women has a price, weather that be time and commitment or emotional intimacy and open communication... if you can't afford a women, then pick one within your budget.

[RandomGuy1030]

You act like the neediest ones are the hottest. This question is asking if the hottest girls should be reserved for men who can pay them the cash they want

[Subarugirl]

@RandomGuy1030 actually the question is asking if a man should not date a woman he cannot afford….. the answer is no he shouldn’t, if he can’t meet her needs, what ever they might be then no he shouldn’t be with her, and vise versa.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Interesting answer but it evades the real question.

[Subarugirl]

I answered the question, as it was asked.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Agreed, I typed before I saw your second post.

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl
"Every [woman] has a price"
Nice to hear the militant feminist admit all women are whores. But if so, then wouldn't it be better to just go with actual escorts and prostitutes, then waste money on something that's not only not guaranteed, but likely to be a waste of time anyway? And yes, I agree, all women have a price. Some of those women ain't worth more than three fiddy, though. Here's a Big Mac for you.

[RandomGuy1030]

@MCheetah I've seen guys hold a sign up "free sex here" on the street. Instead of just paying a whore. Amazing

[Subarugirl]

@MCheetah are you familiar with the term paraphrasing? You should look it up…. Is your head shoved so far up your own ass that you couldn’t possibly comprehend that everything cost something, whether that be time, attention, effort, kindness, empathy, or trust… I guess in your case when you have to desirable traits, the only thing worth contributing is monitory.

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl
Except the question is about actual money, so your stupid fucking attempt at spinning your irrelevant talking points into something else, is irrelevant. That's why I brought it back into money and used your own words against you, since you said "every [woman] has a price."

"Price" refers to money ("the amount of money expected, required, or given in payment for something), not "emotional intimacy" or what have you, and anyone with a brain would understand that. The question is not about that, but you still said those words regardless, admitting every grown female has a dollar sign to her.

Even if we go by your dumb "time and commitment" angle, someone can easily just say "time is money." Thereby, "every woman has a dollar sign price tag on her." You're either paying in actual money, or paying in lost time and wages ("time is money"). So regardless, "every woman has a price tag on her." Which is the point of what you said, without you even realizing it.

And for fuck's sake, it's "woman" and "monetary!" I'm not even a Grammar Nazi, but you claimed to be have been homeschooled; how the fuck is spelling this hard for you?

[Subarugirl]

@MCheetah If it was about money then he should have been more specific or you should have a more open mind instead of this toxic mindset you use to justify acting like a whiny bitch all the time.
If you don't want to invest the time it takes to build a relationship then you shouldn't be in one.
You wouldn't tolerate being with a women that wouldn't spend time with you so expecting women to do the same is hypocritical, and I realize that is just how you roll because you have some weird mentality about about feeling entitled to women like you are something special when really you're just an insecure boy who would rather blame everyone around you instead of taking accountability for your own insecurities. No wonder women want nothing to do with you..

[MCheetah]

@Subarugirl
Me not being as dumb as you means I'm "close minded." Good one! That's some real mental gymnastics going on there.

And I'm a "whiny bitch?" This is called projection. Even if I *were* whiny, that is a lot easier to change than being retarded and too stubborn and entitled to fix it. But hey, you're whiny, bitchy, AND retarded, so you got me there. (That's why we love you though, Barubie.)

Again, he's (likely) referring to MONEY not TIME.

Also, when have I never taken accountability for anything? You're so dumb, you can't even insult me properly. I have entire MyTakes of me taking accountability for my insecurities, including one I just wrote a few days ago. But I know this is just your attempt at pseudo-intellectual word salad and trying to play "gotcha" on someone who is leagues more intelligent than you (not that that means much when it's *you* we're talking about here), so I'm not mad at you.

I will admit. I'm being mean, though. What do they say on the internet? "Don't punch down." They're right. I said in that MyTake I'd be less offensive from now on. Why am I making fun of the mentally handicapped? I mean, I know you're an awful human being and all, and you plagiarize everything you post and type pseudo-intellectual garbage you think sounds smarter in your head than in actual reality, and you're supposedly "homeschooled" but can't even do basic English grammar correctly, and you have an imagery husband you have to make up sex lies about... But it still doesn't make it right.

I'm sorry I was mean to you, Barubie. I'm a big old meanie! Friend? 🙂

[MCheetah]

*imaginary husband

[Subarugirl]

@MCheetah No I said you act like a whiny bitch.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Of course it was about money and you know that.

[Subarugirl]

Then maybe you should have been more clear, because cost can mean a lot of things.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Everyone else understood the question, only you went on the emotional tangent.

[Subarugirl]

I’m not the one getting so emotional over money that I don’t recognize that everything cost something. The most valuable commodity there is is time

[Fuentes]

Of course not he should just fuck her and dip

[Guy13]

Truth is that she will not date the guy if she thinks he can not afford her !!

[Astarlessnightsky]

I don't even know or understand what afford means in this context, How can you afford a woman?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

That totally depends on the woman he desires to date.

If a man picks a high maintenence woman that's looking for hand-outs then no.

[jshm2]

It's not about money - it's not a nanny or slave he's "buying"

[AviatorTom]

FALSE... it's the woman's responsibility to not date a man that cannot afford her.

[Part2603]

True. Don't "date" her. You need to be fucking her.

[exitseven]

"A man's reach should exceed his grasp." Robert Browning

[Zolly99999]

This 2022 not 1980 .. it should be equality between men and women.. why should the man have to pay for everything?

[Anonymous]

It's not something we like to talk openly about bet yes, it's true.

[AndrésC64]

There's no such thing. However, there are entitled princesses whom I would stay away from anyway.

[Jamesshinobi]

i grew up poor. if i couldnt afford it, i stole it. i would never just go without

[maximumpower]

Good way for a guy to go broke.
The story is as old as time itself.

[888theGreat]

I thought with women lib , they carried their own weight

[ellaa1_1]

im in college its unlikely i will ever find a man more broke than me

[Anonymous]

Makes perfect sense to me. Same thing applies to work. Why bother dating if your not working?

[KrakenAttackin]

Anon. "Why bother dating if you are not working", does the same hold true for women?

[Opinion Owner]

It should.

[Raaj4you]

Love is not related to affordability. Where there is true love, there is no room for lust and money. Where there are lust and money, it's not true love. Some people are married to the person and some are married to his money.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Raaj4you. "True love" is a concept developed by Madison Avenue to sell everything from washing machines to sports cars. The reality of relationships is much more mercenary.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s true a man should not date a woman that will leave him completely broke 😂

[zagor]

Is he dating a hooker?

[msc545]

A man should not date a golddigger.

[boobliker]

how would he know if he can or not afford her

[Likes2drive]

A lot of truth to that

[TonightYouu]

You can’t date a prostitute

[Anonymous]

Afford? Context?

[Anonymous]

Things are not black and white

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Sure, same with kids

[Apologies456]

Ehhhh