Should women just give lovable losers a chance?

[LegendaryDater]

[lightbulb27]

yes they should, but they will have their hands full working through the issues of life and relationship... there's no substitute for experience and wisdom!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XIle_6Vzm5A

[coachTanthony]

I think if women want to be happy then YES. Society deems these guys as losers doesn't mean they are there.

[Ryfyle]

I disagree purely because I revel in the suffering of others.

[loveslongnails]

Really coach? You have to concisely define "lovable loser" and how this differs from just a plain old "loser". Why should anyone, male or female, give a loser a chance?

[coachTanthony]

@loveslongnails Because they might be a loser in society standards eyes but doesn't mean they would be a loser to you.

[loveslongnails]

That's not a definition of "loser", Coach. The whole idea of using the term "loser" is a strong implication that the person in question is a failure in the eyes of both society AND the individual person.

[coachTanthony]

@loveslongnails Thats your problem not mine. People want a definition so they can give an easy clear answer. All the answers would be the same if I pinpointed it. I leave questions up to interpretation and thought. I don't steer people.

[loveslongnails]

Not a problem, Coach, so I'm going with "No, women shouldn't give anyone they consider to be a loser a chance, lovable or otherwise". Women here are constantly saying that so many of the men they meet are indeed "losers", and that's why it's so difficult to date. If a woman views you as a cute loser and throws you a bone temporarily, she still views you as a loser and will ultimately dump you. That's worse than if she ignored you in the first place.

So ladies, stick with your gut and if you view a guy as a loser, move on. If you end up viewing ALL guys as losers, that's a different problem, and it's ALL yours!

[coachTanthony]

@loveslongnails One woman might say oh he's lovable but he's a loser because he is 5'6. I will never know unless they tell me and they are not steered to a yes or no. Thanks for the comments.

[kylee2437]

Love isn’t the only thing that keeps relationships going.

[NachtjaegerSS]

That's right, it takes a lot of cash to keep women happy.

[kylee2437]

Or how about making a decent living? Love doesn’t substitute for the plans I have when dating. I date with a mission , not to just sit and waste time with someone for years

[NachtjaegerSS]

@kylee2437. Let's hear about this "mission".

[kylee2437]

I want marriage and a family and I’m sorry love doesn’t cover the economic aspects of having a family and such.

[NachtjaegerSS]

@kylee2437. That's ok, you can marry a rich simp and have Chad Thundercock on the side.

[kylee2437]

Hey I’d prefer a simp over a man that thinks his love is going to put food on the table for our future kids.

[Sasha0426]

@NachtjaegerSS I feel like you want women to stop existing.

[Timid-guy]

@Sasha0426 lol he seems bitter

[Guy13]

Yes and I think they would be pleasantly surprised. Wrapping paper verse gift quality inside kind of thing.

[OlderAndWiser]

Who determines that the losers are lovable?

[LegendaryDater]

She knows he's lovable but he's a loser in many peoples eyes.

[OlderAndWiser]

If she REALLY thouht he was a lovable, i think she would give hm a chance. If she doesn't give him a chance, that means she thinks she could never love him.

[LegendaryDater]

Or she cares too much about what others think of him.

[Part2603]

A little bit of humility and self deprecation and chill vibe that doesn't get butthurt about clashes of status can be a good thing. Something like Rob Schneider's characters.

Too much of that like the characters from Glee, who are the textbook definition of SJW victim complexism isn't. You know the type, the kind of people to always shit on themselves and call themselves losers because they're pathetic and want you to tell them they're wrong.

The kind of people have such an upside Marxist interpretation of the world that they think that a Glee club could routinely bring back trophies from national competitions and still think that people that achieved such a level of competence and success could still be seen as "losers".

Those people are human garbage.

So yeah, go ahead and feel attraction for a guy that's confident in himself; who's who he is and who he's not.

[TenderFantasy]

Hey Rob Schnider isn't a loser lol. He's probably more popular and richer than you haha. No offense.

And he was CUTE in the animal movie and Deuce Bigalow trilogy.

I LOVED him in Big Daddy as the delivery boy lol.

[LegendaryDater]

I know he just plays the role so well lol

[TenderFantasy]

His wife is luckkkyyy... !

He seems like a good husband and father too! I wish he knew me and he was attracted to ME instead of her haha. My life would have been better maybe (at least financially).

[Faith18letsgo]

No, If a man isn’t conventionally attractive he should go for women who are also not conventionally attractive. My personal philosophy is I’ll give anyone a chance, I’m good looking but I know looks don’t mean much in the way of someone being a good partner. I’ve dated a not particularly good looking black girl who I fell head over heels for. I’ve dated a sweet gamer with autism, OCD, and depression who was very conventionally attractive, and who I quite enjoyed being with. I dated a very handsome trans boy with depression who self harmed, he was probably the best bae I ever had. And I dated a conventionally good looking white guy with depression, ocd, had attempted suicide once and used to be annorexic this relationship went very badly because he didn’t have many friends and tried to rape me.

[Heolurt]

That's just female thinking right there, ugly guys should stick to their lane or lower but ugly girls should always try and date up.

[Ryfyle]

My god, you zoomers really fucking earn your hate.

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, I literally said, “ My personal philosophy is I’ll give anyone a chance, I’m good looking but I know looks don’t mean much in the way of someone being a good partner” that doesn’t translate into “ugly guys stay in your lane ugly girls should date up.”

[Faith18letsgo]

Ryfyle, yeah well at least we don’t act like sexual assault is normal, dating people 20 years younger then us is normal, and social segregation is normal.

[Heolurt]

Your first sentence was "No, If a man isn’t conventionally attractive he should go for women who are also not conventionally attractive." Your philosophy doesn't matter when you literally start of saying something that goes against your philosophy. If you really believed in your philosophy, you wouldn't have even said the first sentence at all because it wouldn't be something you believe to be true.

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, fair point. I just see a lot of upset men on GAG who get rejected often and I think they’d have a better chance with women as hot as them.

[Heolurt]

And as nice of a point as that is, "ugly" girls won't go for ugly guys because they want better looking guys and society says they should go for better looking guys but ugly guys should be happy with anything even loneliness. I've been told these things my entire life, I've been rejected by girls considered "ugly" by society's standards that I was too ugly.

[Ryfyle]

@Faith18letsgo
" yeah well at least we don’t act like sexual assault is normal"
Are you fucking high?

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, I’ve had my fair share of rejection too. I just keep asking. I’ve gotten rejected 18x but I’ve also been in good relationships because I keep asking. Just to be clear I don’t ask the same person more then once I just ask lots of people. Some of whom have been looked over because of their looks, others, because of their disability, others just because they’re intimidating.

[Faith18letsgo]

Ryfyle, no, I’m sober.

[Ryfyle]

@Faith18letsgo Kid, you weren't even a gamete thirty years ago. Where the Fuck do you get off on telling me what history I experienced was and was not?

[Heolurt]

I never ask the same person more than once either. The moment I would get rejected I would move on because the rejections I mostly got were harsh "no's" but every rejection was a clear definite "No".

For someone your age and the fact that you are apparently a female, I can see how 18 seems like a high number but I just don't see it like that.

I have been rejected so much over my looks because I have a very visible facial disformity. I have only ever been rejected and I ended up giving up. Females honestly just would never go for a guy who looks like me and that's just fine with me.

[Faith18letsgo]

Ryfyle, marital rape was legal 50 years ago.

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, I’m sorry that’s really shitty. Face deformities shouldn’t have blinded a girl to her soul mate.

My best friend who I’ve been in love with for 7 years when I told her I liked her said she couldn’t be with me in part because I was too short for her. (I’m 5’ 7” by the way) But she’s literally called me her soulmate before it’s so upsetting when people we love are so superficial they’d miss out on us just because of one thing.

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, that said I’ve never seen your facial deformity and I wouldn’t date you. The idea that there’s such a thing as “female thinking” is pretty shitty and I wouldn’t accept that in any or my mates. There’s something about straight guys where there’s usually at least one sexist thing they just can’t not say. That’s why so far I’ve only dated bi guys. Also I’ll bet your white with phrases like that.

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, also what part of my statement made you think I thought “ugly girls” should “date up”?

[Heolurt]

I'm not white, I just talk from personal experience. Also the "ugly" girls should date up part was added because that is how society thinks, especially females, I can't open any app without seeing a post or video of females talking like any of the things I've said females think like.

[Ryfyle]

@Faith18letsgo
Congrats, you weakly shifted the goal post, must have been strenuous. Out of your Diversity Menagerie, that last guy could have been a staged suicide. It's not like anybody would miss him.

[Faith18letsgo]

Heolurt, right but I didn’t say that so you just skimmed what I read and then painted it with the brush of assumptions you’ve already made about women. That’s why I wouldn’t date you.

[Faith18letsgo]

Ryfyle, what last guy?

[Ryfyle]

@Faith18letsgo
" And I dated a conventionally good looking white guy with depression, ocd, had attempted suicide once and used to be annorexic this relationship went very badly because he didn’t have many friends and tried to rape me. "
This guy. Nobody would miss them.

[Faith18letsgo]

Ryfyle, no his family would definitely miss him and if he has any friends now they would miss him too. He wasn’t a bad person he just made a really bad mistake.

[Ryfyle]

@Faith18letsgo
They would forget in a few years, they always do.

[Rogue_Agent]

Rob Schneider isn't a loser, he's rich and famous and he has a talented daughter named Elle King who had that hit Exes and Oh's.

[LegendaryDater]

He is playing the role of lovable loser for this post lol

[Prettysammie]

I think we are attracted to who we are attracted to and no one owes anyone a chance. But I think people should be more open minded and not just assume they wouldn’t like someone and write them off so fast. Too short, a loser, too old, too high a body count, whatever. Maybe there’s a great person to get to know

[Crankor]

Assuming the girl isn't just being shallow, if a guy is considered a loser to them then its more about their lifestyle not working with their own. Forcing yourself to accept that may give the girl a better understanding of the guy but it's still not going to make the girl more attracted to them or make them change their lifestyle to suit his. There are many times I'm sure though ones perception of being a lover is mistaken for being shy or an introvert

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Sure man just look her in the eye and say

“ I likes ya and I wants ya now we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way the choice is yaaawrs “

[ChillaxingLove]

No one owes anyone anything. If they aren’t right for them then leave them alone. It’s better to be single then to have a broken heart because you don’t get along. What’s for you won’t pass you by.

[Anonymous]

Dude. You need to understand this--you really NEED to understand this! The quality of your life literally depends on you GETTING this, so please pay close attention:

Life is NOT a rom-com! If you're getting your dating lessons from rom-coms you're doing yourself a SERIOUS dis-service!

[dustybiker]

Chance? Do you chase people you don’t find attractive? It isn’t that a guy is a “loser”, nobody has control over who they fall for.

[Paulalove98]

I mean he can’t be insecure or have a negative perspective on life.. define “loser”

[melanieeeB]

Nope, why should I have to force myself to like someone unlikable? Lol, those dudes can go and improve themselves

[Shy_Steve]

Thats fair, So you Girls can keep dating Jerks and Assholes then.

[Sasha0426]

@Shy_Steve how many men are we suppose to date and be in a relationship with?

[melanieeeB]

There are a lot of normal handsome men out there, life is not just full with jerks and "nice guys" and both are assholes but the jerks are at least honest lol

[Shy_Steve]

@Sasha0426 It's not about how many Guys you Date, It's about which type of Guy most of you Girls choose.

When you go for the Confident Guy, He is more likely to talk or Approach other Women isn't he so your already increasing the chances of him cheating.

When you choose a Shy Guy he is more likely to to Concentrate on you and less likely to talk to other Girls which would make him less likely to Cheat.

It's not Rocket Science.

[Sasha0426]

Honestly, I didn’t think having confidence was a bad thing. Ok, I’ll go with the guy with no confidence.

[melanieeeB]

Confidence is something very good! You should definitely work on that. If someone wants to cheat, he/she will do it no matter what. Your argument is just plain stupid

[Shy_Steve]

melanieeeB So you think a Shy Guy gets the same amount of opportunities to have sex as a Confident Guy?

[thatshydork]

if they want to and are attracted to them, yes. If not, no. Simple as that. Don’t go after someone who simply doesn’t want you.

[LiamJHayden]

Women should do what they want, just like men should.

[Luopio27]

You mean should the hot, pretty or cute ones give 20, 30 & 40 year old virgins a chance to pop their cherry?


Those guts who are not shallow, will easily find love and sex.

[slatyb]

No one is owed a chance. People should date whoever they found attractive.

[Sisters_Of_Time]

A loser is unattractive to me. If you are a loser to others but not to me, yes I give you a chance. But if I see you as a loser... bye! 😊

[Fuentes]

If your a loser then no, you gotta be a winner stop the low self esteem.

[rienna888]

Yeah they should I find myself only wanting to date handsome men. I need to stop this

[AngryCarl2]

See here's the thing. You're not a lovable loser, you're just a loser.

[Anonymous]

Why do you call yourself a loser? Sounds like a personal problem.

[Anonymous]

What even are losers? I would love anyone that attracts my love to them.

[Randalama]

Attraction is Darwinian. What's a nourishing meal without a bloody corpse. I vote no!

[msc545]

Yes, I have a vision of what that "relationship" would be like going forward.

[Anonymous]

No to the losers. But yes to the fighters. There is a difference.

[420Rachel]

What is a “lovable loser” exactly?

[Alchemizt]

My question exactly

[Asad1ONE1]

Why are you being stupid and sexist against your own? You should ask "Should people just give lovable losers a chance?"

[LegendaryDater]

Will never get anywhere or a response when you call people stupid.

[Asad1ONE1]

Well you get the point and I already told you what you needed to know.

[annabananna]

What is a loveable loser?

[suzzieQ]

Not if she doesn't want to.

[Anonymous]

What's a loveable lover though?

[WTFdivorce]

No but that is a funny question.

[PatriceONeal]

If they themselves are lovable losers

[WhiteBoyChill]

What is a lovable loser?

[Danael31]

Who can judge who is a loser or not.

[Anonymous]

You want women to be Cubs fans?

[Anonymous]

Ya they probably are good at sex

[LimitedBenefits101]

Man up kiddo.