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+1 yI personally find the idea of men being visual creatures pretty much BS. Ask any man to tell apart lilac and lavender and you will know what I mean. Men simply care about appearance more than women do and actually don't care much to pay attention to detail. Calling men visual because they notice boobs (which everyone does) and the just want to keep staring doesn't make any sense to me.
Men aren't inherently the stupid little horny maniacs that we make them out to be, but society keeps reinforcing such behavior and it does lead men to be shallower. Most don't care to think deeper beyond what appeals to them and even if you try to get them to understand that there's so much more to what they see they will dismiss it as unnecessary. If it's not relevant to THEM they think it's unnecessary, how funny.
This is why you see men so confused about why a woman should dare wear a neon yellow eyeshadow or shave their heads etc, or why women would spend so many years in college when men aren't attracted to that. Even reminding them that there is more to our lives than trying to attract men at everything breath and not everything we do is about them, you're suddenly a man-hating feminist for, alas, having a life worth living for more than just them.
TL;DR: I don't think men are inherently shallow, but we live in a world that rewards men's shallowness.
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@CB-Raido-Time Misandry on this site in at an all time high on this site, but I don't think its women outside of social media, at least not to this degree. Also, Russia is a crazy place man. I don't know where else to recommend but Russia probably isn't it bro.
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@Pegases Yes the misandry has become very evident in deed. Oh and believe me they have the very same opinion of us in my town and in your town too. The beliefs they have toward us is very real I have experienced it first hand. That aside, have you been to Russia? Have you seen any videos posted from Russia? Let me tell you I have and it's a paradise compared to here. We have been lied to on a major scale. They are the ones that actually live free compared to us.
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@CB-Raido-Time That's interesting. I haven't been to Russia, but apparently I've been lied to man. Now I'm interested so I'll definitely look into it.
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@CB-Raido-Time I'm not from the West, try again.
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Goddamn I have no place for incel convos here. I hope they learn their lesson in Russia like Roosh V did when he moved to Hungary.
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+1 yI think it's pretty unfair to label them as such. Frankly we're just as visual as they are, we're just pickier with what we like to look at. To top it off we tend to have more requirements than they do for dating.
I realize I'm shooting myself in the foot as a woman. But we're not exactly the angels we're made out to be51 Reply- +1 y
Well said, I think the pendulum swings both ways.👌
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u +1 y"Shallow" implies something that someone does consciously and either deliberately or wth a conscious disregard for the consequences of their conduct. Do you think that men CHOOSE to be aroused and excited by visual stimuli? You may not understand how that works for men, but your lack of understanding does not automatically mean that men are shallow; it just means that you don't understand. So think about the things about guys that get YOU interested and excited. Now, tell me at what point in your life you decided that those things were desirable and that is what you would seek in a guy? And if you are more interested, e. g., in guys who are tall, does that make YOU shallow or is that just something that you can't control?
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1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women are much more visual than men. Men tend to be visual about the way a woman looks, but women are visual about everyone and about a person's appearance, and down to hygiene. They are also visual in the sense of caring how they look/appear in social situations more than men do, which is why females are often more self-conscious in group settings.
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2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Guys are only shallow about shallow things so if a girl only has shallow stuff to offer, he will be very shallow. If she has non shallow things then many guys will respect that. When a guy is really into you he treats you very differently than the girls who only have shallow stuff.
That said... if you don't want to end up like some females you see who have various problems like say being single moms, DO NOT live your life the same way that they did. Find role models who have the kind of life & past experiences you want and ask them for advice. Best case these role models are mid 20s and older. Don't listen to anybody who currently has a life you wouldn't want to have long term.
10 Reply896 opinions shared on Dating topic. No. We're hardwired to hunt. That means we need to be visually wired. As a species we are predators. Women have similar instincts, just less acute.
A man looks at curves whether he realises or not. He sees how a woman's lips are a different colour - deeper/redder - and her cheeks flush. How her pupils dilate in arousal.
A woman looks at shoulder width to waist ratio in a man. Broad shoulders generally meant a good hunter. Arousal in men is *ahem* more obvious.
So men are shallow for being visual. Women are shallow for wanting to be provided for.
Deal with it. We've been this way for ten thousand years. Both equally shallow in different ways.10 Reply
+1 yAre girls gold diggers for wanting financial security and materialistic for wanting all that comes with money?
You need to understand the human psychology first. Think like a man to understand a man. If you think like a girl while trying to understand the opposite gender, you will understand them completely incorrectly.
And then go on blaming while it was you who thought wrongly.
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But amazing. 👍
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5.8K opinions shared on Dating topic. No, giving importance to physical beauty, looks is not shallow thinking. It will only be shallow if a man only gives importance to physical looks, attractiveness and completely ignores the personality aspects, the other compatibility factors.
If a man gives importance to both equally then that is not a shallow thinking. That is intelligence.
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so if a woman was born ugly she's not a good person or not worthy of love? what does physical appearance have to tell about a person? if she's not pretty it means that she lost her fertility?
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1. "so if a woman was born ugly she's not a good person or not worthy of love?"
No, that is not true at all. Of course she is worthy of love too. There are men who won't mind compromising on physical looks and give importance to personality and compatibility aspects.
If a woman is very sweet, nice, kind, caring, empathetic, generous then some men surely would not mind compromising on physical looks.
It depends on the man.
Nobody is really ugly, even if they lack in the department of looks but if they have a beautiful personality then they are also beautiful.
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2. "what does physical appearance have to tell about a person? if she's not pretty it means that she lost her fertility?"
No, physical appearance is for attraction only. Physical appearance does say a few things about the person too. For eg, a person being lean or fit indicates they take care of their health, their body and a person keeping a good hairstyle indicates they are good in grooming themselves. If a person wears good dress means they have good dressing sense.
Looks is something is external only. What actually defines a person is their personality, their thought process etc.
That being said physical looks are important too. However, each person gives different level of importance to that which is totally subjective.
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As for her fertility in relation with physical looks. No there is no relation here at all. - +1 y
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I think now it should be clear. - +1 y
there's a lot of pretty girls who aren't fit or lean or healthy and eat junk food and don't have good dressing sense
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"there's a lot of pretty girls who aren't fit or lean or healthy and eat junk food and don't have good dressing sense"
Yes I am sure there will be such girls. I don't know what to say about them. - +1 y
All your points are clear but most men won't focus on perosnality more so it's useless anyway
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Yes a man cannot simply ignore a woman's looks and give importance only to personality. I men will be less in number.
For a man a woman has to be good looking, beautiful, gorgeous etc.
That being said it will be unfair to say that all men only want physical beauty and nothing else. Not all men are the same. - +1 y
so men can't love unconditionallly
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There is nothing like unconditional love. That is just a nonsensical concept which is portrayed only in movies, books and novels.
Yes such a love can only exist in movies, books and novels. In real life there is nothing like unconditional love. - +1 y
there is :(
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yGuys aren’t more visual. 😂 That’s what they themselves claim because of their ego. ITS A LIE. 🤡
The more you live life, the more you’ll realize that this is a lie and it’s more the other way around.
WOMEN ARE MORE VISUAL. WOMEN.
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Opinion Owner+1 yMen spread their seed far and wide.
They’ll sleep with the beluga whale just got sex
A woman in the other hand cares more about genes. She wants a strong healthy manly masculine male to give her those genes so that her offspring can be like him and survive
+1 yNothing wrong with someone wanting what they want. If appearance matters that's fine - for a short term casual relationship. But no one looks the same a 60 as they did at 25, so if someone is looking for a life long companion, they have to be aware that appearance will change, and in that case deciding based on appearance is at least dumb, if not exactly shallow
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+1 ymen are not in fact more visual. men are more hormonally driven to engage sexually. and women are just as likely to respond to the visual signals in men's body movements that a hearty pounding is at option.
orgasmically trained screen time addicts of either standard chromosomal makeup are prone to be more visual, but this is not really more gender related with the advent of sex toys better enabling this process with equal ease between the genders00 Reply- 721 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI don't think being visual makes a person shallow. Shallow is when the person doesn't care that the person they're attracted to is completely immoral or lacks good character.
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+1 yNo. We like what we like. Are movie directors wrong for only wanting actors who can act? Or are jobs wrong for only wanting people who can do the job from experience rather then someone with a degree.
That being said looks isn’t the only thing guys want. Looks is the application personality keeps you on the team.
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Beautiful women can still be ugly
2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Its a myth that men are more visual. Men and women are the same amount visual just women can control themselves better so we aren't being creepy like men when we see someone good looking
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lol, porn isn't all that good for you for that reason. It conditions your brain to equate a lack of intimacy with real life sexual interactions, which tend to be a part of the reason why so many people have a hard time forming healthy romantic relationships today. I'm not saying this is you, but its something to consider if you watch it every day. I don't know too much more about how it affects women, but I know for men, there is this condition called porn induced erectile disfunction, which is essentially a man not being able to form an erection unless he is in front of a computer screen watching extreme forms of porn. He is essentially desensitized to the way sex happens in real life, which really screws men up in the long run. If you ever encounter young men with erection issues, this is why. Thus, with how much more popular porn is becoming, and how many people on average watch it at younger ages, this will be an epidemic in the coming years, if it isn't already. Just food for thought.
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@Reem12345reem I also watch basically everyday. Have tried cutting it out a bit since I'm pretty sure I was addicted
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I'm not sure I follow what you said, but I'll try. I think it should be talked about irregardless of gender, because both genders can become desensitized to real life sexual encounters from too much porn use. Women most often have a hard time becoming aroused because of the way women typically become aroused, thus, porn will simply make it harder for you when real life encounters happen. That being said, if you think there should be more emphasis on the danger of porn overuse by women, then be the one to advocate for it. Its much easier for women to advocate and relate to women than it is for men.
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After a look at the content on your profile, you absolutely hate men. You're just another one of those girls that's been heartbroken and now think you have a right to throw insults at any man you come across. You can take that women are superior complex crap to your therapist. @Apple1996
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIf women could feel our attraction towards women, i bet they would know how strong our attraction is visually.
You cannot blame hormones
We are same & differents in so may ways, So we are appreciating each other what we similar at & blaming each other what we differs at.10 ReplyYou saw the men are strong, women are pretty trope? you can call men shallow, who cares?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/A9WZFeA4FzI10 ReplyMen a visual because we needed to be when we lived in caves men hunted and fought off enemies it does not mean we are shallow it means we are different nothing right or wrong about it, men have their strengths and weaknesses just like women it does not mean one is superior over the other think of the yin and the yang two different sides coming together to form a whole
00 Reply2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women are more visual than men. More men will date a woman that is physically a 5 or better where as MOST women won't date anyone below a 7. Most guys below a 7 are totally invisible to most women when it comes to dating.
00 Replyfrom my experience, men do tend to be more shallow than women. There is a saying "women fall in love with their ears. men fall in love with their eyes".
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An ugly man can still get girls if he is funny, an ugly woman won't be able to get a man even if she is funny
Are women more shallow for being more focused on what a man can provide? We are biologically wired to be attracted to certain things in the opposite sex.
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+1 yYes. But is that bad? Shallow people are the reason that beautiful people still exist. If it were not for shallow people, then every human being on earth would be ugly.
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waw.
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@Sasha0426 It's certainly bad for those who are. It's much harder for them in life.
Now, is it inherently bad? No. God loves us all no matter what we look like. - +1 y
@Sasha0426 Attractive people don't have to put in effort, either. They simply wake up looking fantastic.
It's actually the average people that have to put in the most effort, since they are right on the line. - +1 y
@Sasha0426 That's a very healthy attitude to have. I greatly respect that.
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@Sasha0426 I would certainly understand their feelings, and I would be sympathetic, but I hope that they would not go to such drastic measures. Every life is valuable.
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And no, hot people do not make ugly babies. Unless the baby has some sort of disability.
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Lol.
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Lol. You know I'm right. 😂
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@Jamie05rhs nope, 😂 saying nothing 😉
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+1 yNo.
I could say women are shallow for not being more visual, but women are just as visual as men are.
Every layer adds depth. Looks is still a layer.00 Reply 10.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. That would be like asking is women are shallow for having a materialistic approach to choosing a partner neither are shallow
00 ReplyCall it what you may. Men have evolved to be more visual and you cannot change their DNA.
10 ReplyIt is mostly about brains and fertility/pregnancy. Males work more and earn more so I pay less attention to how moneyed up you are and more to whether you able to get thinking.
00 ReplyYes, if you think its shallow that a man would want and prioritize finding an attractive mate than yes men are shallow. I don't think this is shallow behavior.
00 Reply526 opinions shared on Dating topic. Girls are just as visual as guys if not more, now some will say guys can get money and get pretty girls but I don't think those girls actually care about those guys. They just care about the money they make.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yMen aren't more visual. Both genders are equally visual but women dont want to appear shallow so they dont publicly admit it.
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+1 yWe tend to be more visual but no, that doesn't make us shallow. If it did, women would be just as shallow, for ALSO being visual
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It's just a stereotype. Woman are also visual. They just don't show it like men
10 Reply417 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think both sexes are shallow but men perhaps excuse it less. Also, men arn't really used to relationships carrying any advantages except for sex so they don't look for much else.
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+1 yShallow is just a pejorative term meaning straightforward. Men are straightforward, they know what they like.
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+1 yAre girls shallow for not wanting to date short men even though they might be taller than them? No, its just biology, we have to accept certain things
11 ReplyThey are just so full of lust, is that shallow?
00 ReplyI don't think so, but maybe there is such a person out there, there is such a woman out there, we need to look more at the person's approach and responsibility
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+1 yBeing more visual is like a tool. (I imagine you know where I’m going with this.)
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+1 yThat's a lie perpetrated on humans at large. Women are visual, too and often more choosy.
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+1 yI don't think so, but I suppose some guys would be.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yPeople who use the term "shallow" to describe normal human attraction are the ones who are shallow.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yNo more shallow than women are for being more emotional.
It's all perspective hun.
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don't call me hun eww
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI don't know how much brainwashing you have had in school, but this is completely untrue. It is women that are more visual.
00 ReplyI'm anything but shallow. A woman could drown herself in these waters if she's not careful.
00 Reply2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Are girls crazy for being more emotional? It is your cave person brain and his cave person brain.
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+1 yAs opposed to women who are more "resource driven"?
00 Reply 4.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Girls pick based on size, which can't be changed.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yAre girls shallow for caring how much money is in my bank account?🙄
00 ReplyLet me ask you this then...
Are women more shallow for want material things from guys?
00 Reply777 opinions shared on Dating topic. Just think it is different. It’s not a positive or negative
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ywomen are more visual. They just lie and say men are
00 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. No we are assessing your fertility.
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+1 yNo, it's part of our biological wiring.
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+1 ysure. nothing wrong with being shallow.
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+1 yWe all can be but you get over that fast
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+1 yAre girls shallow for being more material?
00 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Nope we can’t help biology
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+1 yEveryone’s shallow if that’s the case.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yAre girls shallow for being visual?
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+1 yIt really does
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+1 ylol, no.
00 Reply2.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Sure, then what?
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThey are dogs
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