Some of them prefer to hide that they are trans because of the idea that "I am what I feel"
So, if I ask a man for a birth certificate just in case he's a tranny on a first date, is it homophobic?
Some of them prefer to hide that they are trans because of the idea that "I am what I feel"
So, if I ask a man for a birth certificate just in case he's a tranny on a first date, is it homophobic?
Lmfao I love it. Not homophobic, no. Suuuuuper transphobic, invasive, and presumptive though.
I think that a woman asking me for my birth certificate on a first date would either guarantee a second date from me, or deeply insult me, depending on the reason she felt the need to ask.
it's actually a joke but I wonder what their reaction would be if we tried this on men lol
Most probably wouldn't handle something like that very well, but you'd get a laugh out of the ones a girl like you would want to date. The kinds of guys who would handle that well are extremely secure in who they are as people, and have thick skin.
For context, the job I am working as I complete law school is one where I spend 9 hours per day, 4 days per week taking care of someone whose mental pathology is entirely focused on violating your personal boundaries and repeatedly doing the things he knows will annoy you the most so that you'll take him out to eat. And he does all this with a deadpan facial expression like he's in a Monty Python skit.
I personally think this is hilarious. Most people find it deeply irritating.
That's right, that's why they say humor appeals to very few people
Not a bad strategy. Go for it girl
lmao, what would your reaction be if I asked you?
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Keep in mind something that is important and you will realize this more as you age:
>>>>> Everything you say or do reveals something about yourself.
(Thus, often, it is better to keep silent or not do anything. Males instinctively understand this which is why they aren't as talkative or emotional as females.)
So, for this reason, I have no problem with it because I want to know as soon as possible as much as possible about the woman I am dating (just like you are with this birth certificate request).
For some "men", this request of yours will be off-putting. For others, it will be fine because it shows you are a serious woman. For others, it shows a rush to take things to the next level and is scary.
About this specific request, it's a little tacky, but, in this day and age when saying you are a "man" or "woman" has no meaning, it's justifiable.
Thatâs a bit invasive.
Instead, Iâd open up a conversation about LGBTQ topics and issues, and explore the subject of transitioning.
Whatâs their stance on it. And if they identified as another gender, would they transition?
That should transition (no pun intended) into them sharing their story. Itâll be their opportunity to reveal their experiences, or keep it secret.
That should give you all the info you need if you listen carefully.
After that, if you really are still unsure. You can always share whether you were born male/female and ask them if they were born male/female, out of curiosity. If done with the right finesse, you can come off inoffensive.
Asking for their birth certificate is too much though.
Just take their word for it.
Itâs completely fine to have preferences.
Like a straight cis male canât say that a lesbian is discriminating him if she doesnât want to sleep with him.
People have a right to have their sexual orientation and dating preferences.
Asking for their birth certificate, as an APPROACH to the situation though, feels a bit homophobic in my opinion.
Talk to them like a human being.
This shouldnât be an interrogation with a bunch of legal documents.
Booooo, proof or gtfo is what I'd tell them.
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Donât get me wrong, it would be handy to be able to see their birth certificate, their credit score, their transaction history, their bank statements, their criminal record, their social media history, and all their private DMs.
But, if you canât trust their word, then you shouldnât be in a relationship with them anyway.
In fact, if theyâre very open and honest, they should let you know without you needing to ask, because youâd have the right to know if youâre getting into a serious relationship with them.
Asking for their birth certificate screams distrust. So itâs not a good start.
Itâs off-putting, like a girl demanding a photocopy of your passport. Itâs sets a distrustful atmosphere.
Most of that stuff has no bearing on whether they are datable. The birth cirtficate and criminal record are, but the rest are not relevant. When you first meet or start dating someone you SHOULD distrust them.
Trust is earned, simply giving it on a whim is extremely foolish.
They are many layers of Insanity here. And honestly youâre at the bottom layer of it. The top layer is that you have to actually ask this question if we were living in a society where you actually have to make sure a man is an actual man and a woman who is pretending she is a man that tells us how sick our society I really is right now.
Personally, Iâm not going to show my birth certificate on a date, but I will talk about values with you on the first date because I think values is important and Iâd date so that I can get married. Personally, I like the Ben Shapiro approach to dating.
Well I can see a problem immediately. For example, in California it is easy to change one's name and:
Statute: Cal. Health & Safety Code § 103426 (2018).
California will issue a new birth certificate when an applicant submits to the State Registrar an affidavit that, pursuant to Cal. Health & Safety Code §103430(a), contains the substantially the following "I, (petitionerâs full name), hereby attest under penalty of perjury that the request for a change in gender to (female, male, or nonbinary) is to confirm my legal gender to my gender identity and is not for any fraudulent purpose." There is a $23 fee for a new birth certificate, pursuant to Cal. Health & Safety Code 103725.
No, that would be transphobic. Also just not smart, because your birth certificate can also be changed. Also not necessary, because trans people don't want to date transphobic people anyway. You can just say "I don't date trans people," and they won't want to date you (regardless of whether they tell you they're trans or not). Problem solved.
asking for a birth certificate would have added a lot of excitement to a first date though
Transphobic maybe by todayâs terminology. It amazes me what some people say they want to see on a first date: Credit scores, bank balances, etc. All I can say is try asking and find out. I doubt it will go well.
just a birth certificate, pretty easy
no because homophobic is not liking gay people and its not transphobic just cause yo don't want to be with a tranny its only transphobic if you hate them and say bad things about them or something like that
It's insensitive and STUPID since birth certificates in the US can be altered now.
If you can't love a person for all that they are, excluding the toxic parts, then you don't actually love them.
Homophobic? I'd suggest that the FTM is the real homophobic one who's a closeted lesbian and can't face that so has to pretend to be a man.
Ask for a dicpic instead.
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I would cancel the date just to avoid looking through all my stuff, as i am not even sure if i got a birth certificate.
so, you wouldn't be offended for it
Sure, i would be pissed.
why, if a guy asked me that, i would laugh
You won't get a lot of dates. Most people don't have copies of their birth certificates hanging around.
it would still be funny to ask that from a guy
Just how many women who "transition" to a man truly exist? Also, if they only "feel" like a man, they certainly don't look like a man.
some look very masculine
Aw come on, are you trying to tell me that they can play out a male role convincingly?
but since their penises are made of bone, their 24/7 erection would give them away
Of course not. You will never meet one and, even if you did, you will not fooled.
If you canât tell you might need to get your eyes and ears checked.
Lmaooo u gotta do what u gotta do ig 🤷🏻ââď¸ but i wouldn't ask on the first date.
Chances are, they'll TELL YOU flat out on the first date if not before!
That's over the top. Just ask them before you accept the date. If you don't want to date a trans person, decline the date.
They're starting to change their gender on their birth certificate. Did you know that? Creep!
ThatâŚ. Is a sign of intellectual superiority. No it is not âwhateverphobicâ, those pathetic terms are basically just the new Race Card.
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