Do you think the discrimination towards black men in dating is warranted?

[Anonymous]

Dating stats from across the board shows that black men are seen in a negative light to most women of other races when it comes to dating. While, the vast majority of women look at white males in a positive light. Now, given that 72% of black women end up with kids out of wedlock, and black men often are absente fathers, do you think the discrimination is warranted?

After all, a woman who is serious for her Childs well being and wanting said child to grow up in a stable household would want to mitigate the chance of becoming a single mother, which would include avoiding a certain racial group that's known to abandon their children. Thus, if a woman was even open to the idea of dating a black male, she might not have a child with said male and merely date one casually due to the high prospect of said male abandoning her and the child.

okcupid dating data

Data from Facebook app "Are you interested" which had a sample size of 2.4 million.

Stats on single status among black men and women:

1. 62% of black women are single

2. 55% of black men are also single.

Yes

No

[Anonymous]

It is definitely warranted. But keep in mind this issue is not just a black men problem. Black women are equally to blame for these astounding numbers. It should come as no surprise to anyone that women who choose to breed with unworthy men end up as single mothers. The blame lies with both men and women.

And even though the problem is worse in the black community, it exists among all racial groups. In the US today the national average rate for children born out of wedlock is more than 40%, up from 4% only a few decades ago.

Thanks, feminism

So why has the rate of fatherless children skyrocket in such a sort timespan, during the same period when birth control and abortion became so widely available? It's a combination of factors... the sexual revolution and the normalization of female promiscuity, the destruction of the nuclear family, and the marginalization of fathers... the common denominator to which is feminism.

[BeMuse]

When the odds are high that your partner will abandon you if you get pregnant, you have a high probability of being exposed to violent crime and domestic abuse, your partner has a high probability of going to jail, you have a high probability of poverty, your partner has a high probability of being uneducated, unemployed, etc. why gamble? There are people that like the emotional roller coaster ride of gambling and all the misery and drama surrounding it, but those sorts of people are mentally ill. When the chips are stacked against you and the house always wins, it's generally smart to avoid putting yourself at risk.

[Avicenna]

Discrimination (in its broadest sense) is rife in dating, including areas other than race, and if we can look at it intellectually and not emotionally, we might glean some interesting insights from it.

Regarding black men, I read once that white women who have children with them are more likely to be single mothers than black women who have children with black men. If this is true and widely known, it is a useful data point. Somewhat related to this, some time ago (it might have been a couple of decades ago) I read that more educated/higher earning black men were less likely to date white women than black men who earned median income or less. This may no longer be the case, but, if accurate, could certainly affect perception and therefore discrimination.

Black, Hispanic and Asian women who date white men are more likely to be well-educated and so are their white partners (or the white men at least make good money). Are they interested in white men who are less educated and don't make much money? Generally, no.

Asian men might not be as affected by racial discrimination in dating as the numbers indicate because they can more easily find partners in their ancestral homelands or they are themselves immigrants.

[EricSummer]

No, it is not acceptable to differentiate based on race like that. It is not a useful way of picking your partner, either.

For example, if a woman wants a man with university education then statistically she should prefer Asian men. However, as she picks only one man, statistics do not help there. She may date a black man she met at her university and he fits her requirement regardless of race.

It is similar for the reliability as a father. The woman must find out if she can trust the individual man.

I would only forgive her for being extra careful on this point with a black man given the statistics. However, this must never go to the exclusion of people based on race.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

No. It's rather racist. But I think if you're a black man, you can spin it easily the flip way.

Put on a suit, if you're near-sighted or far-sighted, put on the glasses instead of contacts, and drive an economical car rather than a flashy car with gold rims and you're probably among the hottest things to all women to walk the planet.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

It's a strategy to flip racism on its head. Cuz take a white racist pastor type who is preaching to church and on Thanksgiving, says the most horrible things like, "All these black people are just criminals. They can't speak proper English. All they listen to is gangsta rap. They just spray graffiti all over their neighborhoods and the man are only interested in booty calls instead of marriage."

Then you show up all dressed in a suit with a nice job, speaking the most eloquent English, well-mannered, and then all these white racists are like, "Damn, WTF! I don't know what to think about this!" And maybe that's the only hope to fix their minds.

[inhua]

I'm pretty sure Asian men have it much worse and often have to overcome even higher unrealistic standards than any other race of men

[Asker]

If we look at that okcupid graph, Asian men have a slight lead on black men.

[inhua]

Asian men are also the much larger population by far than all the other races combined and their slight lead only comes as a result of Asian women heavily discriminating black men

however I don't recall the last time a broke Asian guy was getting laid on a regular basis as that of other races

[Asker]

could it be due to white men's propoganda of all other races for the past 20 years? If you look closely at film making in the west and focus on past films, you would notice a pattern of all non-white males being stereotyped negatively. For Asian men, they are often portrayed as subordinates to white men and stereotype as having small penises, which will have a psychological impact on girl's preference and bias. For black and latin, they are often portrayed as low status and criminals, that are often dumber than white men. While a lot of white men have been portrayed as perfect balance of smart and brawn. They didn't get portrayed as super nerdy or dumb, often won't painted as womanizers and no propaganda was ever made of their penis size. it's only with recent film making have we seen more bashing of white males which is why we hear white guys talk more about being discriminated in the media.

[inhua]

every race of man has their own positive and negative stereotypes, white men have their stereotypes of being racist and sexist despite many white men being liberal snowflake soyboys

in the case of Asian men, their positive stereotypes don't actually matter as much to women as they claim they say it is important to them, at least not enough to override the negative stereotypes you listed like having small appendages

Asian men are often described as family men which should put them near the top of the dating pool but actions speak louder than words, a women's natural instinct to pursue bad boys with good genes will override common sense more often than not hence a thug with good genes and large appendage is more desirable than a family man with bad genes and a small appendage

yes these are stereotypes but it doesn't stop people from believing them. if you ignore black women and Asian women responses and focus primarily on only white and Latina women who would have nothing to do with either black or Asian men, black men actually rank higher than Asian men despite neither race of women knowing anything about either race of men

[mandyfire98]

All I know it's that I personally don't discriminate in dating.

[AngryCarl2]

Dating is one area where you can still discriminate. If you feel that dating black men offers a poor risk/reward ratio you simply don't need to go there.

[Anonymous]

It is warranted if you have nothing in common with black people.