She's 12 1/2 years younger than me. I almost always prefer older women, but I don't know.. I was interested in her... although maybe she thinks I am too old for her.
If you want a stable relationship, you can’t punch above your level. My grandpa married a very rich woman who was 20 years old and very beautiful but my grandpa studied at a school that is over 50 times more difficult to get into than Harvard and made over twice as much as the average person in his very rich town in a age where almost everyone made the same amount of money. You can chase a girl who is more young and physically attractive then you, but can you back it up with your own credentials?
It is not wrong but it may be unwise or for the wrong reasons. However every situation is different so I wouldn't judge based only on the ages, my guess is that it would prob. not work out in the long run but I could be wrong. JMO!
It's never wrong to let someone know you are interested in them. Their reaction will let you know if you should continue though.
If you two are compatible, and want to date each other, do it. You're consenting adults.
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Yes it is. Usually men that stoop this low in age have some kind of immaturity issue that women their age do not prefer/condone.
I don't think I've ever been on a date with someone born after 1993/1994, so this is an exception, but don't know if she's even interested.
You won't until you ask her. Don't let this cunt shame you into settling for a lesser woman. You both deserve a chance to give each other a try. IF you get to know her and your not into her no biggie that's what dating is for. Ask yourself, how is that different than any other woman?
I've seen worse
So Leo DeCaprio has an issue that women his age "do not prefer/condone" and so that's why he has to go for women in their early 20s? Not buying it.
@rocksongwriter uhhhh yep and that’s called he doesn’t know how to settle down and he probably never will. He’s been through several women, yes he is the issue
I think it's more of he desires younger women (as do most men) and he has the looks/fame/fortune to pull off getting them.
@rocksongwriter so he has no desire to settle down and that’s his issue? Got it , thank you for proving that he indeed does have an issue.
Maybe he does desire to settle down but his relationships just don't work out for the same reasons that other people's relationships don't work out.
@rocksongwriter his dating history suggests that his relationship problems are a result of him not wanting to settle down and that’s why he goes for younger. It’s a no brainer.
I can't speculate as to why his relationships have ended as neither he nor his former partners have disclosed why they split.
@rocksongwriter then you are the only one that is stupid as to why his relationships haven’t worked out because most memes going around about him have to do with the age range he goes for and how he doesn’t last in relationships. Go ahead and play the fool so you can prove your “point” 🙄
I would say that you are the only one that is stupid -- as you are trusting memes as being a reliable source of information.
@rocksongwriter or you are trying to deflect from the bullshit everyone else is seeing, and that’s typically what manipulative men do.
I'm just saying none of us know why he split with his exes as none of them have said why -- and memes are made to be jokes and are not news sources. So if you read it in a meme, it might not be true. Even if you read it in a lot of memes, it still might not be true.
@rocksongwriter so in this case, a meme isn’t true because you want your point to be proven. The example you brought goes to show that age differences like this rarely rarely rarely work
Psssh... most relationships in general rarely work. People break up all the time. And I'm not saying the meme isn’t true because you want your point to be proven... I'm saying we don't know if it's true or not. We don't know why he split with his exes. You, being super judgy, claim you know exactly why he split with his exes when, in reality, you don't.
I meant "And I'm not saying the meme isn’t true because I want my point to be proven..."
@rocksongwriter it’s not being judgmental, it’s a point where if a person has more capability of being mature and weighing out their options of what wanting an age gap relationship could mean for them , then they should be asking themselves why they even want that. He is more of an adult in this situation.
You're saying you know why his relationships ended when you don't and you're making judgements about him and his character based on why YOU THINK he broke up with his exes and why YOU THINK he goes for younger women... that's being judgmental.
"Older people should not be invading a younger adults space." What if it's the younger adults invading the older adults space?
"If a younger person chooses to go for older people, the older person knows better so" Ah! The "let's hold older people accountable for their decisions but not hold younger people accountable for decisions". I get it.
"Why would no one make judgments on his character when he is in and out of relationships and conveniently chooses younger women?"
Because we don't know why he's in and out of relationships and why he chooses younger women. Also because it's none of our business why he's in and out of relationships and it's none of our business why he chooses younger women.
@rocksongwriter it has nothing to do with not holding younger people accountable , it has to do with the fact that a younger person going for older people usually is going for things they have not learned about yet and that is because of lack of life experiences. And yes people with more life experiences should be held more accountable, which is why it is illegal in all states for an adult to date a 15 year old
@rocksongwriter that’s how you feel but the memes made were judgements BECAUSE people have plausible reason to make judgments when he was more of a grown adult than ALL of the women he has been with. He’s the common denominator. Stay mad about it
Maybe he tries to date older women but they're judgmental like you and judge him based on his dating history so he's forced to return to dating younger women.
I never said you were older. I said maybe older women are judgmental toward him the same way you are judgmental toward him.
Ouch! Poor Leo!
@rocksongwriter sorry it’s just the truth. I’ve dated someone 32 when I was 22 and I couldn’t believe hold childish he was in the end. It made me question why I was going for men so much older when they weren’t providing what I was looking for in older men at that time point
I guess I shouldn't ask you your thoughts 83-year-old actor Al Pacino and his 29-year-old girlfriend that he just had a baby with.
You can't base your opinions of all older guys in relationships with younger women based on one dude who was 32 that you once dated three years ago.
@rocksongwriter he went for her because she’s one in the few that would flirt for her and we all know her motive was money based
I hope you jump at opportunities as much as you jump to conclusions.
I was referring to your comment "he went for her because she’s one in the few that would flirt for her and we all know her motive was money based". Maybe she finds him handsome. Maybe she's attracted to his charisma. Maybe he likes her for her personality or her spirituality or her sense of humor.
@rocksongwriter wow a lot of counter arguments you seem to make sound rather delusional.
www.etonline.com/.../al-pacino-and-noor-alfallah-93135
You really think she finds him attractive? You have to be out of your mind and delusional LOL
Perhaps they sound delusional to people who have much less life experience, such as yourself.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She definitely could find him attractive. I once had a roommate (who was in his late 30s) who was infatuated with Jane Fonda who was in her early 80s and talked about how he would date her despite her being 45 years older than him. True story.
@rocksongwriter yeah Jane Fonda holds herself to attractive beauty standards. Martha Stewart is also. Al Pacino- does not. Your view point is coming from a view point of delusion because you want to be right so badly
Um, no. My point of view is coming from the fact that just because you don't find him attractive doesn't mean that there aren't other twentysomething women who do find him attractive (like his girlfriend). What you personally find attractive or unattractive in men isn't true for all women. Surely there have been men that you don't find attractive that other women do find attractive. Al Pacino is one of those men.
@rocksongwriter yeah no dude, you sound delusional and are trying to evade the fact that his most valuable aspect superficially is his money.
Wow, so you only value people based on their money? Try valuing people based on their character.
@rocksongwriter when someone is worth 120 million, a person that has the motive of money will put up with whatever which is why she went for someone that is 80 years in age to begin with.
But you do admit it's possible that her motive isn't money and that she might be attracted to him for other reasons... like his personality or character, right?
@rocksongwriter yeah what percentage of that is attraction? Probably 2% chance if that. Any one with a lick of common sense can understand she went for him because he is closer to death and is leaving behind money.
You assume she's in his will. Maybe he dies and leaves her nothing.
You assume the child is in the will. He might leave everything to his three other children or stipulate in his will that all of his money be donated to charity.
"you would say she’s with him for the money."
I would say that no one can say for sure why she's with him without asking her. Only she can tell us why she's with him.
@rocksongwriter again you are evading common sense because you want to be right. You literally have asked before if women would have babies with a man just for his money if he was a millionaire
Wrong. What I asked was: "Ladies: would you have a dozen children with your spouse if your spouse was a millionaire?" In other words, once you're already married, if your husband one day becomes a millionaire, does your partner's new resources play a role in determining how many children you want?
I did NOT ask if women would have babies with a man just for his money. By the way, the majority of people voted "no" in that poll! The majority of people do not allow their partner's resources to play a factor in whether they want children with that person and how many children they want if they do want children.
I asked a bunch of women. Whether or not they're "average", I cannot say. If she's an actor's daughter, then she may have "daddy issues" and be attracted to Pacino because he's an actor like her father was. She may have picked Al in particular because they have similar interests and maybe he's a fun guy to be around.
@rocksongwriter daddy issues and dating for money go hand in hand.
I would disagree with that statement. I've definitely seen women date much older men who are poor.
@rocksongwriter yeah no you disagree with everything because you want to be right, it’s quite apparent now.
No, I disagree with you because everything you're saying is wrong.
@rocksongwriter ummm no you have bounced into about 5 different subjects now to deflect what I’ve been through as a young woman and what other women have been through also. This is why by the time women hit the age of 30, they pretty much don’t like men and are happier single
I'm not deflecting.
"This is why by the time women hit the age of 30, they pretty much don’t like men and are happier single"
Are you saying women in general don't date after 30? Hahahahahahaha!
You do realize that saying more women are happier being single than men is not logically equivalent to saying that there are more women are happier being single than women who are unhappy being single, right?
I mean if 2% of single women surveyed are happier being single and 1% of single men surveyed are happier being single... then a larger percentage of single women happier than single than men -- but focusing on 2% of single women who are happy ignores the 98% of single women who are miserable.
@rocksongwriter now you are arguing against science, amazing.
How am I arguing against science?
"In data from the General Social Survey between 2010-2018, analyzed by Wilcox and researcher Nicholas Wolfinger, married women between the ages of 18 and 50 reported significantly higher rates of happiness than their divorced, separated, or single and never married counterparts."
Source:
www.catholicnewsagency.com/.../are-single-women-actually-happier-study-misinterprets-data-researchers-say
According to Psychology Today, the unhappiest people in America are:
-Female
-42 years old
-Unmarried (and no children)
So it sounds like singleness isn't making adult women happy at all.
Source:
www.psychologytoday.com/.../meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america
I think it's cringe when someone is specifically looking for a huge age gap relationship. That goes both ways for women and men but if you just happen to like the person where the age gap is sizeable then I think it's fine to date them for the most part.
Absolutely nothing with it at all.
You are expressing a potential preference or opinion. There are some that will attempt to bash you for having an opinion or preference other than their own. Let them wallow in their own hate.
As long as the two of you are consenting adults and truly into each other, go for it.
Yes you are to old for her. Date someone your own age or don't date at all if you are that immature. Men who think this shit is okay need to go to therapy and work on themselves before they ruin a young woman's life.
@kylee2437 exactly 20s are a important time for a person to be developing and learning about themselves and what they want out of life. They shouldn't be tied down to some old man.
And how many women date men older than men? Significantly older than them? Are they immature also... or just independent women? 🙄
Women who think this shit is okay should go to therapy and work on themselves before they ruin an older man’s life.
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@Apple1996 Doubtful. You’ve likely been nibbled down to nothing more than a dried out sour core.
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@Apple1996 The space between your legs is as dry as the Sahara.
And the younger person should know better. Why do you want to chase someone who will probably die 20 years or more before you do, and who will likely have health problems while you’re still young and active.
Kinda dumb.
Like I said. A used up, hollow, desiccated core 🐛🐛🐛🐛🍎.
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Wrong? Not necessarily; it's just odd. What is the basis of your connection with this young woman? Like, what's the thing that you look at and say "I want to spend time around this girl because _____"?
I mean, she’s not like a normal 21 year old. She didn’t go to college to take advantage of some favorable opportunity she got. Also, I think she was 18 when she bought her own house.
That is definitely NOT enough to say someone isn't a normal 21 year old. Buying her own house at 18 is pretty impressive though
Go for it king! your in your prime and she is in hers. women our age hit the wall, they are fat, blown out, or single moms. Dont settle for a lesser woman just because we reach our dating market peak later in life.
@Apple1996 That's not even close to true. Men aren't put together until their mid 30's. And women don't run the race, they take a buss to the finish line and pick the winner.
@Apple1996 ROFLMFAO!!! your beauty is a dumpster fire after 30, you've been blown out by more men, you have kids, you can't maintain a good body. Men have more money, more attractive qualities. Why would we settle for an old bag that other guys got the best years of?
Women peak looks/sex wise in their 30s-40s. That's just how nature made us. We don't look like a dumpster fire at all
Your honestly projecting a lot here. If you think old men are so good looking then you are free to go be with them lol women stay good looking basically forever. Go outside and look around most women are put together while most men look like shit and that goes for all ages 😂
Maybe? What is she doing with her life now? What do you imagine would happen if she formed a relationship with you? The worst thing you can do is derail her plans before she met you.
She's working for a controversial far-right media figure. lol
She forewent college to take this job
Don't "pursue"... make your intent known. If she's not receptive move along to the millions of others who are.
I don’t think I should be that obvious given I met her at a function I was at for work. She may be in contact with other people at my company. She works for a controversial media/political figure.
No, nothing wrong with that. Both adults and she can decide for herself if she wants to be with you.
I would even think it would be better for younger women to date older men as younger guys are really immature and tend to just use women.
No it is fine.. but it might not work out in the long run because you will always be in different places in your lives..
You know 12 years is quite sustainable. Go ahead it's not like she is a minor. and since your 30 something your not old at all and she won't think your old either.
Depends on your motive. If she's an old soul and you are happy together then why not?
If you notice an age difference then I think you are doing it for the wrong reasons
I wouldn't date someone that much younger than me.
I personally think you’re too old for her, but my thoughts have never stopped peoples actions
No its not wrong. You are both adults. Plus most men prefer women that are younger/the same age as them (NOT KIDS) though.
Nope. Not at all. If she’s mature and the feelings are mutual, go for it! 😌
She's old enough to make her own choice. Ask her out, if she says no then back off
No, not if she appears interested, but if she thinks you're too old then probably better to look elsewhere otherwise it gets stalker-ish.
It's not wrong per se. But the odds of lengthy, successful relationship are not with you when you get into gaps larger than 9 years. Good luck man!
Not wrong at all, she is an adult and the man should be older.
Give it a try. As long as she is 18 or older age does not matter. Enjoy!
To old. Don't go there. 20 older don't go there either. 3 years or 5. Mentality are different for sure. Struggled with this one
there's no legal right or wrong here
@kylee2437 true but nobody is being hurt here
@kylee2437 what are you basing that on?
@kylee2437 people's preferences aren't static. we don't even know his circumstances
@kylee2437 it's not the same as being a 33 year old man and the question is specifically about him
why is he obligated to stick around and try to date women who don't want to reciprocate back to him? why isn't he allowed to go where he's appreciated? seems like a lot of unnecessary unwritten rules
@inhua it’s not about women that don’t accept him, it’s about what his actual intent is about dating someone that is over a decade younger than him. I’ve dated a man that was 32 when I was 22 and in the end, he had a lot to work on that he was deflecting against which is why no one his age wants him.
@kylee2437 do you believe this guy has bad intentions then?
@kylee2437 do you believe women who go after "financially stable" men have bad intentions too then?
@kylee2437 so it's smart for women to do it but wrong for men to do it then?
if this guy truly had bad intentions, why would he be asking permission from strangers on the internet about his life choices?
She owns her own house in Florida, so must be mature for her age
@kylee2437 what makes you think men want women for their money? men and women are attracted to different things in each other
or perhaps he's asking because he doesn't want people to shame him for it
@kylee2437 interracial relationships get shamed. gay relationships get shamed. should those people in those relationships feel shamed too?
@kylee2437 if there truly was bad intent from this guy, he wouldn't ask for "permission" to begin with. he'd just go ahead and do it.
@kylee2437 perhaps not the best one from society's POV if he truly believes in letting society dictate his life.
@kylee2437 it pretty much is society's POV (especially in west) given how frowned upon age gap dating is. the guy has been gaslighted into believing he's going to abuse this younger woman when abuse has nothing to do with age
@inhua no one said anything about abuse - there is usually just very little serious intent with a huge age gap but you specifying about abuse suggests that age gaps usually do have to do with abuse. And again it’s not society’s POV , it is a common sense POV as a 33 year olds mindset is not in the same as a 21 year olds regardless if she is ahead of her years career wise.
@kylee2437 what does this have to do with being hurt? masculine men and feminine women have completely different mindsets yet are a perfect match for each other
@kylee2437 you said a 33 year old has a different mindset to a 21 year old
masculine men and feminine women have completely different mindsets too and they compliment one another
mindsets don't need to be the exact same. they just need to work together towards a common goal
@kylee2437 age is nothing to be balanced with. just like looks and money, they are superficial factors
it's personalities and character traits that balance off each other
@kylee2437 so do people who grew up in different countries, different environments etc. but nobody shames them for getting together
@inhua you can try and justify this all you want by bringing up excuse after excuse, I’m a woman that has been 21 before, and while I’m still young and have experienced an age gap relationship - these kinds of relationships are rarely in the girls benefit. It’s a man that is lacking something in some kind of way that women his age do not accept.
@kylee2437 excuse for what? coming late to work? not winning the championship? failing a math test? is anyone getting hurt in this relationship so far or are you just making baseless assumptions on arbitrary factors outside of someone's control?
last I checked, there's no obligation for someone to strictly be with someone their own age. even if this guy was lacking in something why does it matter you? there's no such thing as a perfect man no matter how much you want to believe there is.
@inhua there’s obviously an issue when a man has to go for someone younger to deflect inner work that makes him valuable to people that are a better fit for a long lasting relationship. And it’s not assumption - I am a woman has experiences with such topic and am not stupid to the games older men play because they feel like younger women are better looking (superficial aspects)
@kylee2437 why are you presuming who is and who isn't a better fit for who?
the converse is also the same for women who believe older men are more mature, more wiser, more rich, look and act more of a "real man" instead of "boys" etc. and choose to pursue them but nobody dare say there's anything wrong with them
@inhua the whole point is, is their age gap inherently can determine that both of them are not fit for each other - and that would stem from the fact that he prefers older women for one and that is most likely because older women carry themselves a different way from younger 21 year olds for the most part especially this generations 21 year olds.
@kylee2437 older women don't necessarily carry themselves differently to younger women and the same can be said about older men vs younger women. age may come with certain expectations but these are all presumed, nothing concrete
@inhua in terms of life experience , a 21 year old woman is most likely going to put up with more for a less than man, and that is a fact. Talk to me 4-5 years ago and I was putting up with the most from men and that’s because I didn’t know better. Talk to other women my age and up and they will tell you the same thing.
@kylee2437 or conversely men only have tolerance for women who act like women
sure you put up with older men when you were younger but why didn't put up with younger men your age back then?
were too many of them jobless and playing too many video games or partying too much? face got too much acne? they didn't have enough muscle or abs?
@kylee2437 perhaps these older women have unrealistic standards that only the top 20% of men can reach and he's not one of them. there's nothing to be ashamed about and he's now going to where he can be appreciated
@kylee2437 why do you assume he doesn't have to or won't work on himself? why do you assume the worst intentions for him? how is this even manipulation?
perhaps it's better to be with someone who appreciates you and is willing to travel with you on the same journey as opposed to being with someone who looked down on you for most of your life only to bandwagon off your success when you become a winner
@kylee2437 who said anything about them being at the same starting position?
sounds like a case of wanting a cake and eating it too. so the right thing to do is for this guy to jump through hoops for someone who might not appreciate him in the end instead of going for someone who would appreciate him and jumping through hoops for her is actually worth it?
@kylee2437 never said all women were unappreciative. men simply go to where they are appreciated. what's so hard to understand about that? what makes you think he is low standard? because of his choices and preferences?
@kylee2437 again what makes you think this guy is of low standard? do you know how much money he makes? do you know what car he drives or where he lives? how about his height and body fat percentage?
are you equating younger women as being inferior and of low standard compared to older women?
Again, I never said he is low standards , I said the action of going for someone younger in hopes for more appreciation means that in your logic low standards equals more room for appreciation. You said it yourself. That doesn’t mean he is low standards - that means he wants someone that accepts low standards for whatever reason
@kylee2437 what makes you think he didn't go after older women hoping they'll appreciate him too. isn't personality more important than superficial factors like looks, money, age etc?
where do you get this idea that wanting someone to appreciate you for who you are is of "low standards". I hate to break it you but not every man is perfect. not everyone can be Channing Tatum or Brad Pitt or even Superman and there's nothing wrong with that
@inhua it has nothing to do with being Channing Tatum , it has to do with a man hiding deep seeded issues and then plastering it onto a woman that is at an age where she should be growing her life and keeping happy away from toxic men. I don’t know him so I can assume whether he is toxic or not, but I can assure you any man that is going for younger women for the reason you are spewing out is 100% definitely more than toxic
@kylee2437 wanting to be appreciated is toxic? then everyone's guilty as charged
@kylee2437 that's assuming this guy himself is low standard and intends to stay low standard which is unlikely to be the case if he's asking for permission
this may come as a shocker to you but men are more motivated when they are loved and appreciated, not when they're crapped over and shitted on constantly for not being "good enough"
shame tactics don't work and certainly doesn't make someone more desirable because you insist they are seen as desirable.
@kylee2437 how am I proving your point when your point is based entirely on emotional feelings and conjecture?
@kylee2437 younger doesn't necessarily equate to more appreciation. I don't know why you think they are correlated. men aren't mind readers, more often than not they bank on hope instead of knowing for sure
@inhua here you go changing what you are saying again lol you said his explanation for going for someone younger is because the older ones didn’t appreciate him enough. Just take the L and move on. Your profile pic and background tells me you love to argue but never stop arguing even if you are wrong
@kylee2437 I said it was a possibility he wasn't being appreciated which could very well be the case. I never said it was for certain. nobody knows anything about this guy, not me. not you but you seem hell bent on applying non-existent motives on him based on an uncontrollable factor like his age
@kylee2437 you believe it's best because you assume he has bad intentions due to his age
since you don't judge people for the content of their character but instead judge them for how long they have existed in this world, do you also judge people by their height or the symmetry of their face or the color of their skin?
@kylee2437 anyone can have bad intentions regardless of age or gender
Johnny Depp and Amber Heard had a 23 year age gap and $140 million wealth gap but guess who turned out to have the bad intentions of the two? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Johnny
then there's Meghan Markle, a D-list actress who married Prince Harry, a literal member of the UK royal family who has turned him against his own family and spreading rumors and unverified claims of racism and discrimination even though Prince Harry has an enormous status gap which could've "taken advantage of" but instead he was the one "taken advantage of"
and given that women today have far more options than men in the dating market where men are completely disposable and replaceable, men don't have as much power as you think. plus a woman can falsely accuse a man of rape via the MeToo movement and the public will defend her. a power which no matter how old, how wealthy, how famous he is can fight back against public perception
No. Look at leonardo di caprio
Definitely not
Go 4 it
I doubt anyonec sares.
I've seen worse
only you can answer that question.
Are feelings mutual?
Very wrong
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