Why do men get enraged when women want to date hot men when they themselves think they are entitled to nothing less than the hottest women?

[Anonymous]

Why is it OK for men to be shallow and not women? You can try to make stupid comparisons all day but in the end you know the vast majority of men won't be caught dead with an ugly woman when lots of ugly guys date and even marry women who are leagues better than them.

[Anonymous]

Men get “enraged”. Nice wording wording there to see the tone. Okay.

Well a few things to consider here:

• Women are sexual beings and will of course have preferences on what’s physically attractive vs. what isn’t. Most men in the modern age can accept that. That’s only human. Also most men know if they don’t take steps to improve their physical appearance (exercise, dieting well, dressing well, grooming well, etc.) then it severely limits their dating options. We get that.
• Most men know that its highly unlikely we will get a woman is out of our league looks wise UNLESS we got something else going for us (money, status, witty sense of humor, an “emotional angle”, etc.).
• Men are often picky about things women CAN control (with an exception of age). Yes we generally want thin/fit women. While this is difficult to control for some women it’s not impossible. Women however often judge men on physical attributes they have absolutely zero control over namely height. They also judge men who are balding. I have a full head of hair and I’m 6ft by the way. However I’ve seen women time and time again judge short and/or bald guys on this. It’s okay if you don’t find that attractive. Of course you don’t have to date that. But don’t judge these guys as if they had a choice in the matter.
• The vast majority of men don’t waste our time actively pursuing (or daydreaming about) a woman who is way out of our league looks wise. If we do we will be considered stalkers. Women however will daydream about good looking celebrities and be “groupies”. Male groupies for female celebrities are literally non existent.

Anyway I don’t care if you got eyes for good looking men. That’s human. But just don’t expect a 9-10 looking guy to fall in love with you when you yourself are a 6-7. He might give you a quickie if he’s bored (and you’re lucky). But he won’t have real feelings for you when he’s got better options.

[ScisorsAndRaisins]

I love anon posters. They make me so hot.

[Ozanne]

I don't think anyone ought to be entitled. Any man or woman who believes they deserve anything like that can be cut down in one swift move by finding any flaw they have. No one is perfect, and not even the supposed 'hot' person they think they deserve is going to be perfect either. In the end, someone will get together with the person they deserve, and that's not entirely meant as a good thing.

[Nikki1989]

Men still hang onto the 90% of women go after the top 5% of men myth. It serves as a good excuse for their failures with women.

[Kaamraj]

It's not a myth it has been demonstrated through swiping patterns on dating apps.

[Noether]

@HiveBee

They have less actual genetic variation, what they have more of is variation in gene *expression*. This is actually a result of women’s greater genetic variation, as they’re more likely to have a gene from one X chromosome that prevents a gene from the other X chromosome from being expressed, yet they still carry all of these genes, whether or not they are expressed

[Noether]

@HiveBee

(“They” referring to men

[ManOnFire]

Chill out, incel. And get out of your mom's basement. Most men are not heartbroken at women wanting to date hot men, because men are trying to be the hot guy a woman wants to date. I personally don't care that much about how hot a woman is, let alone what type of guy she wants to date. I just do me.

Overweight and unattractive women are 10x more enraged at their girlfriends getting chosen by a hot guy, than an average guy being enraged by the same thing.

[FYI345]

Exactly

[Inbox]

@ManOnFire She’s in your 20s, that’s all you need to know.

[desidoll]

Lol your second paragraph is sooo accurate. I know this overweight friend who came to me and complained about this hot guy choosing another woman but her. She said something like “How am I different? I have pussy too and it is not that she is so much attractive than me” I’m like wtf? The audacity to even question why is she not chosen by him 😑 Like isn’t it obvious or she doesn’t have mirror at home.

[Exterminatore]

Women are funny. They think their vaginas are unique and special and rare and therefore the entrance fee should be extremely high.

The reality: vaginas are as common as concrete because 1 out of every 2 people on the planet has one. Not exactly a rare find.

They’re all pink on the inside and all feel about the same.

[ManOnFire]

@desidoll She can't face the facts. There's a girl on my job who is overweight and always has a mean look on her face, even though her face is not that bad looking. But she walks around like that because most likely she's angry that the slimmer girls get attention and not her.

[ManOnFire]

@Exterminatore This is a face. Women sadly see sex as value and although they complain about how horny or disgusting men are, deep down they rely on male sexual desire to give them a sense of importance and feel in demand.

[Avicenna]

"Ugly" women can get partners too. Unless they're insisting on dating "hot" men.

I don't think people get enraged like this to the extent you seem to think.

[RoοstеrBrеаst]

It does happen. The problem with these question is that they're like people living on the south pole asking "why is it never summer?" Or people near equator asking when is it going to snow.

And sometimes, they think ALL men are like that. I see what she describes on this site often. And I say, I can't blame women for wanting "the chad". Because I also avoid ugly women.

Instead of complaining about "female hypergamy" I insist that men should improve their attractiveness by boosting their testosterone levels using this guided meditation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5cZzbKvW0

[HiveBee]

Honestly I believe the root of men's rage is all encompassed in a single problem:

Men do not truly know the nature of what makes women attracted to men.

My belief is that ultimately, all men have the same kind of sexuality. The beauty of women is what our sexuality is geared towards.

All men share this. We all know to point out the girl with a fat ass to our bros. Hell, even a stranger. All men love female beauty and it is the absolute fundamental root of our sexuality. (, don't come at me with bullshit about standards for marriage. I'm talking about biological sexual drive.)

So given that we men know our own sexuality, we wish we could also know what it is that drives women at the absolute root of the biological drive. Stop thinking about marriage and standards and this trait or that trait.

I'm talking about animal biological roots.

According to women they don't have one. Every woman has a completely unique sexual drive that drives her to be attracted to wildly different things.

Whereas all men are wildly attracted to female beauty. Period. And I don't care if any man comes trying to say I'm wrong. He's wrong. I'm correct.

My theory is that men are genetically diverse in a way that women are not.

I'm nature, the males have all of the variety. Females are the collection of varied DNA in one sex, the female sex.

Men have the most mutations. This is due to our xy chromosomes. Men are also more susceptible to genetic diseases for this same reason.

So I think maybe the ladies are telling us the truth. They truly are attracted to all kinds of different things. And that is because men are the genetic pioneers in a sense. Evolution operates on the male.

The male is the one who mutates a beneficial trait. The females reproduce with those males and it becomes standard in the female biology.

I don't know. Just a theory.

[Noether]

@HiveBee

X chromosomes are much larger than Y chromosomes and have 10 times as many genes, Women get 2 unique X chromosomes, so they actually carry more traits than men. Most of the traits carried by the Y chromosome have to do with male sex determination and development, the X chromosome does significantly more. Women are as a result more genetically diverse and complex than men.

[Noether]

@HiveBee

Women are more susceptible to genetic diseases for precisely the opposite reason: In the same way that being inbred makes you more likely to get diseases because such a person gets many of the same genes from both parents, very likely including harmful ones, and there is nothing to counter it, while having genetically diverse patents makes it less likely that they have the same harmful genes and more likely that they have genes that will prevent harmful genes carried by the other parent from manifesting, the greater genetic diversity provided by virtue of having two X chromosomes, one from each parent, makes certain diseases less likely.

[HiveBee]

You're right about the chromosomes size difference but you are wrong about women being susceptible to genetic diseases.

It is the dual x chromosome which acts as a correcting mechanism.

That is why men can inherit genetic diseases from their fathers, but girls will have a genetic defect fixed by the chromosomes.

I went to college and learned a decent amount about this. I'm not a biologist and don't remember everything perfectly.

But what I said is pretty much right.

The male has the wider genetic profile. Not in a single individual but across the population of males.

The population of males each with different traits and the female chooses the best trait she wants to reproduce with. And often times, that same male will reproduce with ALL the females. This is in animal nature of course. Human beings are different now and we have consciousness but we evolved from animals so its the same. But culture and marriage took us away from the animal 1% of males reproduce.

[HiveBee]

As far at total genetic profile goes, it doesn't matter. We both have the x chromosomes.

The purpose of the y chromosome is sex determination and some other things.

The y chromosome could. theoreticaly disappear and it might.

But that would not change the fact that even if the y went away, and both men and women had 2 x chromosomes, the genes would still find a way to make males male and females female. There is evidence of the y chromosome disappearing in some animals yet they remain unchanged.

[Noether]

@HiveBee
^I meant to say men are more susceptible there because of their lower genetic diversity etc., thanks for pointing out that error

[Noether]

@HiveBee

And sure, theoretically that’s possible. But being female is defined by having the larger gonad/s, so even if it shifts to something else the males will still have the smaller gonads, with less genetic material

[Noether]

@HiveBee
It does matter, because two X chromosomes have more genetic material than one X and a Y.

[Noether]

@HiveBee
^gametes, not gonads

[HiveBee]

It doesn't really make much of a difference unless you're a man hater trying to find reasons to support your hate.

Science shows us that it doesn't really matter very much. Even feminist literature says the same.

Not that most feminists even read feminist literature I know they don't.

[Noether]

@HiveBee
Quit the self pity party. You just said that men have more genetic diversity because of their Y chromosomes and I pointed out that the reverse is actually true because women have two of the larger kind of gametes. If me pointing that out is hateful towards men than you who claimed the exact same thing first but directed towards women must me a woman hater, by your own reasoning.

[Noether]

@HiveBee

You were the one who brought up the subject first to make a point but are now backing out of it, saying it doesn’t actually matter and making accusations just for pointing out an inaccuracy in something you said. Why would bring it up in the first place as an argument if you believed that it wasn’t important to begin with?

[HiveBee]

No you misunderstood me.

I think my grammar was clear. I said men have the genetic diversity across population.

For example black people have the nost genetic diversity across population.

However the people with the widest gene pool on the individual level are the middle eastern people.

Men have the widest gene pool across the population. This is how it is with most animals.

The MALE is the producer of New traits, the female is the integrator of new genetic traits.

I mentioned the man haters because they are always looking for reasons to put women above men.

And the same goes in reverse for the woman haters.

I just see so many "feminists" who never read one ounce of feminist literature, telling men that we are horrible evil monsters because biology decided so.

It's nonsense from every direction. Any biological essentialist position is BS. Feminism is explicitly anti biological essentialism.

[HiveBee]

Even the idea that men and women have different sexualities is suspect on biological essentialism.

And it may be. But my argument still describes what could be categorized as social construction.

Men are socially constructed to desire female beauty. Women are socially constructed to desire men who epitomize the patriarchy.

At the end of the day my original point stands.

Men don't know what women want. And that causes a lot of problems.

I think that most women are not willing to entertain this line of reasoning.

I'm not angry. I'm perfectly rational and give no fucks one way or the other.

It is all a scientific curiosity for me. So don't try to lump me in the he-man woman haters.

[desidoll]

Both unattractive men and women are generally shallow. I don’t discriminate them based on gender. I have seen it in real life. They want to date the hottest person in the room because they think this increases their value and make them look more desirable to other people. It is so selfish especially when they complain about getting rejected by the opposite gender, yet go for the most attractive person.

[RingOfFire]

"the vast majority of men won't be caught dead with an ugly woman when lots of ugly guys date and even marry women who are leagues better than them."

This question comes up time and time again, even though the answer seems obvious. It's because men are more attracted to women because of their looks and women are more attracted to men because of their ability to provide and protect. It's natural instinct from millions of years of evolution that programmed them each to be that way. These gender specific roles are part of what make successful families and successful families are what ensures the survival of the species, the most important thing for any species.

[Rei13]

As someone that went from being ugly to pretty I know first hand how shallow men are. It’s wild how differently you get treated when you lose a lot of weight from people you knew prior. An ugly girl will have a hard time compared to a prettier girl, regardless of personality. That said both men and women are shallow. Men will generally go for the prettiest girl they can get, women will go for whomever is able to provide for them. Men and women just go for different things

[Twincapersredmomma]

I mean I think everyone wants to be with their version of attractive.
most people realize it’s just a physical ideal and 1- not likely to happen

2- the person might be hot but who knows what they are really like

Though, yes, there are some people who are delusional. It doesn’t have to be just men though.

[Bricealan]

I don't understand it either! Maybe the women marry the nerd for social security? $$$$$$$$ ? Think about it, though, dont' you think BOTH sexes have an inflated sense of entitlement? I think that is human nature.

I do, and always have 'taken them as they come', pretty, not so pretty, average, I don't make any judgement about my own attractiveness, nor about a woman's attractiveness. The women I am usually with are attractive, from my POV.

[Exterminatore]

I don't know. Pretty lame isn’t it.


I’d also like to know why women think they’re entitled to the hottest men just because they have a vagina.


Most women: I’m 35, have 3 different kids by 3 different dads, I make $30K a year, I’m 50 lbs overweight, I’m a total bitch, I drive a car that barely runs, I’m a 6 out of 10 , and I live with my parents. If you want this you’re gonna have to work for it. I ain’t settling. Lmao!

[Anonymous]

Men may lust after hot fantasy women on the internet and in magazines but studies show they are much more tolerant than women in their actual choices of partner then women are.

The top few men with lots of resources, fame, and influence have their choice of women, regardless of their looks. You cannot generalise this for all men because it's absolutely not true.

[DextroShade]

Men are more visual than women and have fewer requirements but each is more important. Women all want guys who have money, status, and resources while men want girls who look young, healthy, and fertile. Most guys just want three things from a woman: don't be fat, don't be a hoe, and don't be a bitch.

[DarkLegacy]

Another bullshit statement from millennial women, it is women who are more shallow, no woman should be judging looks. It is why there more male virgins then female virgins. Stop believing feminist myths

It is not ok for women to be shallow.

[Shy_Steve]

Most of us Guys are still willing date the Average Girl, But the Average Girl is usually not willing to date the Average Guy are they.

Why do you think they say that at least about 90% of Guys aren't getting Sex or are Virgins, It's because you Girls are only Dating or having Sex with the top 10 to 20% of Guys so your ignoring the rest aren't you.

Us Guys find at least about 50% of Girls Attractive, Probably even more, That's a lot better than 10 to 20% isn't it.

[Noether]

There are 138 million men in the US and ~68 million of them are married (49%), and there are many others who are not married but have sex, so no, the vast majority of men are not virgins. Actually the percentage of sexually inactive women is higher than for men– 16% of men/adolescent boys and 22% of women/adolescent girls ages 16-74 are sexually inactive. It’s just that the men are slightly more likely than the women to be satisfied with that state of affairs (about a third of the men in that demographic want to have sex compared to 25% of the women).

[Kaamraj]

Men are far less selective than women, both parties want the most sexually attractive partner possible but only one of them exercises it to the extreme.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is allowed to date whoever they want, for whatever reason they want. It's between those 2 people only.

[Billlewis]

I agree wholeheartedly with every word you said, and guys should be more realistic about who they're pursued, and accept the woman's decision.

[artgorgeous]

The men who gets enraged are those who are not Chads. Chads dont care, they can get any woman, like 99% of them.

[KrakenAttackin]

Men don't think they are "entitled to the hottest women". Quite the opposite as most men marry average looking women, and most men won't even waste time approaching the "hottest women".

[Anonymous]

You realize you're only hurting yourself here, right?

[Anonymous]

Lady who men are worse about this than men, seriously, statistically 90% of women go after the top 5% of men because a 2 falsely believes she is a 10. Get a grip lady women are just as bad if not worse.