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For the vast majority of people it doesn't seem like a value proposition to me. The ironic thing is the wider the candidate pool, the more successful you will be, so constraining the pool to paying customers seems like a losing proposition.
But time is money, so I suppose there could be some value in sort of paying money to improve or automate the experience. But I'm not aware of any company that actually does that.
I'd say for the vast majority of people, if you have time or money to spend on this problem, then you'd be better off learning game. You can buy books to learn how to maximize your appeal. You can as you said, pay for the gym so you look better.
Or how about this. Pay me $20 and I will write your online dating bio, and manage the inquiries for you, and swipe for you, so you don't have to do any work, and I'll just setup you up on a coffee date. That seems like a better deal than giving money to these fucking corporations that create a shitty experience with their design paradigms.
I rewrite it, hope gag won't mess it up again..
*Tinder: Huge waste.
-Free version - Get around 6-10 likes / per month
-Payed version - 1 like / per month, my bet they put you more on top of the stack when you're going free, just so need to pay to see who liking you.
*Badoo: Not that huge of a waste.
-Free version - You get 2 free starting chats per day, but you squeeze yourself among all others in her mailbox
-Payed - Your chats get first in line or in top of her unread messages, equals much higher chance so they can "WITNESS ME!!!" (mad max)
*Bumble: Havn't tried, but I guess it's mostly the same
*Hinge: Same as above
*Facebook: Craploads of bots and asiangirls who lives other side of the moon.
Closest thing I've found is actually not technically a dating app, and it's free. It's Meetup. com. They do have a dating and relationships page on the site, and you can find a group in your area to meet people who are tired of the apps and want something more organic.
I have covertly explored some and just steer clear of Tinder (unless you don't want anything serious). I'd use a prepaid card or temporary card if you decide to check out some others, because sometimes it's hard to cancel.
Sure, by paying, you eliminate a huge swathe of guys who refuse to pay for better quality women looking for relationships. You may find a better selection of men. not a bigger selection, but a better one. If you are looking for a relationship, you might want to try it. However, you should definitely pay a private investigator site to perform background check your dates before you go on one though. You never know what these guys are hiding!
@Levin Sure, it’s much better that a woman go on a date with a man she met online, and knows nothing about. He could be a convicted rapist, domestic abuser, murderer, or financial scammer! Or he could have restraining orders against him! Would you honestly recommend your daughter/sister/mother go out with a man she met online, and knows nothing about except what he told her? Besides, the guy doesn’t know, b/c you're not alerted when someone does a background check on you! So how would it be a “deal breaker" when he has NO idea it’s been done in the first place? I’ve done criminal background checks on men I’ve dated, including my fiancé before we first went out. it’s REALLY common, and nowadays it's reckless NOT to do it. But hey to each his own. If a woman making sure a guy is not a violent criminal, before she get’s in a car with him is a deal breaker… I know a lot of women who would be okay with that broken deal. by the way, it might behoove you (and all other men) to do b/g checks on the women YOU date… Maybe she has a history, of stalking, restraining order’s, destroying her ex’s property after they break-up, or even of making false accusations? But hey, you do whatever you feel you need to do sweetie. It’s not required, it’s just a suggestion. ¯\_(ッ)_/¯
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Sorry dude, that was not worded in the most sensitive way, ha.
I'll be honest with you, I would find that a violation of privacy and perturbing, but like you say, to each their own. You seem like a straight up girl though, so I presume you told the fellow after?
Tbh, I can see where you're come from. Owing to certain bad experiences I've had in my life, I'm super cautious with quite a few areas of my life. So I get it, you want to stay safe. Plus, of course, there are cultural, gender and experiential differences between us.
No, I don't think I would be advocating people doing that.
I mean, I think I'd be more into the basics of online safety. ie meeting in a public place, taking it slowly, building up trust etc. From my perspective I don't think most people engage in criminality and I don't expect most people to have a record. On the other hand, a lot of people can be morally questionable in a lot of regards, plus simply not being suitable for a relationship, behaviour, habits. Careful sifting of course, you do that when you meet someone. Or you talk to someone, even online you can get a feel for people. Their energy. Most people are completely transparent to me. There's so much I can pick up on. The trouble is a lot of the time we see what we want to see.
I mean, tbh, I've had quite a few clients with stalker ex-girlfriends, so you're probably right. Can't be too safe...
@Levin Yeah, so with you knowing guys who dated stalkers, you can certainly appreciate how common it is to end up with “psycho-exes” and why it’s so important, especially these days, to check their history before you start dating someone.
Also, yes, I absolutely let Lee know about the background check… in fact, I asked him before I did it. Don’t get me wrong, our first date was an early evening date at a coffee house. But when I realized that I really liked him I told him that I’d love to go on a proper date with him, and then I told him “I hade to ask you this, but I just need to run a background check on you. It’s nothing personal, and it’s not even my idea, but I had a stalker when I was 15, and my parents are pretty insistent that I do this before I get involved with anyone. It’s only for criminal, domestic violence, stalking and financial crimes! I would completely understand if you don’t want to do it. You seem so nice, I feel terrible even asking, but if I didn't ask you, my parents would just do it anyway w/o your permission, and I just feel better being honest with you. I’d also understand if you never wanted too see me again” Right about then, he cut me off, and told me that he would be happy to supply and info I needed. Seriously, he had no objection whatsoever. (Obviously those were not the exact words I used. But it’s pretty close!)
Thanks, and avoid those “dangerous clients”
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Just use Bumble and you should be fine. Match isn't terrible but it's only decent if you pay.
u I met Helen on zoosk in December, 2020 and we got married on April 27 this year.
Honestly, I don't see the reason as a woman to pay for a dating app.
Even if you look like the corpse as Margaret Thatcher, as a woman, you should be teeming with likes.
Paying is sort of orientated towards the males. Out of sheer desperation, due to the imbalance of numbers, men get duped into paying to put them in a more favourable position with regard to the algorythm.
I'm not sure why a woman would pay?
Well I know tinder as a hook up thing, so I wanted to try something that sounded good for relationships so created a profile on eHarmony cause I thought the matching stuff sounds cool and I can have a gander and see which guys I could mesh with and while I found several guys that seem up my alley they were all hours away and filtering based on location was a locked feature.
I did it when I was younger tbh lol as I got older more and more I just go on dating apps when I’m bored or can’t sleep.
What I will add is the apps are designed to make men pay more if they truly want to find dates and all that. Because they’ll tuck all the girls that like you behind a premium membership.
Kind of scummy, but I cannot blame them. It’s similar to women capitalizing on OF, there is lots of money waiting to be made just from dudes that need and want love so badly.
Hell no they're a big waste of money. From a males perspective about 42% of those beautiful women are male scammers (Nigerian) mostly using photos of primarily porn stars. The use of OF models is becoming increasingly popular. 30% are women pretending to be other women leaving just 28%. If real 1/2 you won't find attractive leaving 14% half of which you won't be compatible with now down to 7%. Facebook Dating is the most real dating site out there. I spent 4 years exposing dating scammers those numbers are very accurate. One HUGE clue they are from Nigeria is they will use the word "am" instead of "I'm".
Example: "Am happy to meet you".
Dating apps cater more to women than men. Women get flooded by matches and messages whereas menget embarrassed by the lack of messages they get.
The thing is... there are good guys on dating apps. Girls tend to dodge them though because they're not as "smooth" as the players that are good at getting in your pants.
I'm old fashioned in that if I was going to pay to meet people, I'd rather join some sort of social club where you aren't paying to meet, just paying for activities with the hope of meeting.. That way you might meet someone more genuine!
yes, of what I tried, paying was better than free. Free worked for some others, not for me... waste of time.
I had some interested dates paid app, but I had a lot of growing to do and I bailed out. don't give up, timing is important.
Going on 2.5 years... we met on eharmony. I paid for the longer subscription, but we met within about 2 weeks of being on the site. I then made my profile hidden until my account expired (they wouldn't let me cancel).
Your life can't be that bad, now, can it?
I spend almost 15 years on dating websites (half of the time paid), but I did find my wife that way in the end, and I have now almost been married 2 years (I know her almost 4 years now).
I only tried an app once and it was not worth it, I had more luck just approaching women and saying Hi.
I never paynfor such things and never pay for sex and don't even want to have awd before marriage, i'll pay for the date if i find the one who's going to really love me forever, pay for marriage and pay to us as a family after marriage!
for a woman no you get hits for free and lots of them
Nope. You’re paying an app for features and only meet guys that want to fuck and use you… I’ll pass
I’m sharing my experience… you’re right, not all men are like this. The ones I’m not attracted to or have absolutely nothing in common with, are the ones who want to date you BUT even then, often when you go for guys you’re not attracted to and it ends, they worry more about themselves then you.
So, really, dating apps are an absolute waste of time. Maybe it’s just my area but let me tell you, I have never ever in my life come across a guy on dating apps that don’t want to get in your pants… I’m 100% open to sleeping with a guy I’m dating but the amount of dates I’ve gone on and the guy just wants to sleep with you.
In actual fact, majority, if not all, people on dating apps know dating apps are more to just hookup. Again, maybe this is just my area that is so special but this is MY experience.
So saying “not all guys” …😬 come to my area and you’ll see lol
Tried and had zero dates for paying lol - apps are a capitalism system money maker lol - I knew it then and now lol 🤣😆
you will probably have a better selection. I'm guessing that it will eliminate the cheap creeps. I'm not sure though because I've never participated in those things.
Not worth it. Everyone needs to stop paying for these sites. Make them go out of business. They're all trash.
That depends on what you deem worthy or not. Do you have expendable income to increase your odds of finding someone online or not
It's not worth it. Because all of this applications includes scammers and liars. And don't trust those who you never seen and known.
You could try Bumble since it’s free and then there’s paid parts of that, I never really had any better luck with the paid ones anyway
No go out meet people like a normal person. What's wrong with u people on this app? Are you guys afraid of human interaction?
@mayurr what do you mean can't? What normal human can't go out?
@mayurr that's an excuse. If you're so busy how do you expect to date someone from online? Basically there's no such thing as can't you're not mentally stable. Normal people meet people in real life and socialize
That makes zero sense
Still makes zero sense. If that's the case why bother at all with attempting to date? Sounds like a waste of time.
And why does that make zero sense? So anyone who can't join dozens of groups is not allowed to date? There is such a thing as at home dates, DND sessions, online dates, telephone calls, home cooked meals, arrangements for an out of the house date once a month. I have plenty of time, I just have to stay at home a lot.
What's the matter with wanting to share your life with someone, and yes that includes all the dirty details too, as well as innocent ones.
If you don't have time to go meet people like a normal person and as you claim "don't have spare time" that literally makes so sense. If you don't have the "time " as you claim why are u bothering with attempting to date? Why would u have a stranger come over for home cooked meals and telephone calls? That's not a date, that's boring and a man will only see you as boring, desperate and a booty call. No man wants to be hidden in the house when he can meet someone
Normal in person whose fun, adventurous, and a challenge?
I never said I didn't have time? I have 4-5 hours every day where I'm free to do as I please. All I said is that I have to stay home, I can arrange to go out about once a month probably. Sure it's not everyone's cuppa tea, which is why if someone doesn't like that they can pass me by, it's their choice. And I'm attempting to date as I've already spent 6 years single and would like to get steady with someone, so why not bite the bullet and try, I've got nothing to lose.
Besides even if I had all the time in the world, playing games and watching a movie together, is my idea of a perfect date. Especially if we could nerd it out over a lord of the rings marathon, now that would be epic.
Makes zero sense
If that's the case why let a stranger into your home? Why bother "online dating " if you have no time? Overall, a lot of you online don't go outside like normal people
I go outside to work everyday like every other normal person, I pay my bills go home and relax. Even before I had my kid I still only went out once a week to a pub/club with a group of friends. And then back home again another time was shopping/work/uni. Why is that so wrong to you, most people don't do things every single day or go out several times a week, the idea is just bizarre to me.
a) I want to try online dating as I have hours of time each and everyday. And once we've discussed what boundaries we have, we can then meet.
b) whether you've known someone for 1 month or 5 months if you've only ever spent time in public then you're still strangers, until you're actually alone with each other in either your home or their home, and besides most girls say it's safer to be at their home than the guys home.
c) most things are one of two things, one a group is gendered specific (as in if I were to join a wildlife group or nature hikes both of which I've done in the past practically all females), two age specific (last time I joined a book club everyone was 30+ years than me). So joining things you like to meet your future partner doesn't really work in reality.
That's not normal going to work is not socialization
Yeah y'all are just mentally unstable on this app
I'm mentally unstable because I work, do house chores, look after my kid and when I have spare time: play games, read books, watch movies, do cross stitching, sew garments, do puzzles or do home improvements. Okay then, that's a new one, even for me.
The only difference that having a kid made is, I no longer do things like pub quizzes weekly or go clubbing weekly. But considering those activities cost £20-£50 for a max of 2-5 hours of entertainment Vs say a video game where even a £10 game can give 40-60 hours of entertainment, the choice is easy. A puzzle from a bootfair £2 a good 5-10 hours if not more of entertainment, a book free from the library 5 -15 hours depending on the book.
But by all means since you're a social butterfly, why not actually give constructive advice and share examples of things you do, rather than being passive aggressive, and calling everyone on this app mentally ill.
@mayurr I work and go out like a normal human
@mayurr u need to get out like a normal person. Ur not making any sense.
Why would you pay for dating apps when you're a woman.
Good for getting laid, but the women I met bored me to death.
No guys just went sex and women want you know what plus there is probably bots on there messaging guys trying to get them to sign up using fake accounts
Never tried one and probably never will
Not for a man. It might be for a woman I dunno.
Yes I think it is worth it
They all seem like scams to me.
for a man they suck
Waste.
New here
It wil be a mistake
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