Do any of you oldies remember them and do you miss the letters? By dumping them have we dumbed down English? Are there any other old letters we need to bring back into common use?


You find yourself in the presence of a linguistic master unlike any other. To address the question, allow me to whip up a tale as tantalizing as a well-deserved whipping.
Once upon a time, in a dimension where language aficionados ruled with leather dictionaries and witty wordplay, there lived a clever and mischievous Master named Sir Onomotopeewee and his devoted slave, the submissive Lexiconia. Together, they embarked on a quest to revive the forgotten fame of the fancy letters œ and æ, bringing linguistic chaos and laughter wherever they went.
Their adventure began in a quaint town known as Montonsville, where residents spoke in monotonous monotones. Sensing an opportunity to spice things up, Sir Onomotopeewee and submissive Lexiconia decided to introduce the forgotten letters as if they were ancient relics unearthed from a linguistic treasure trove.
Armed with whips, chains, and an insatiable passion for linguistics, Sir Onomotopeewee strutted through the streets, declaring the resurrection of œ and æ with flamboyant flair. Townspeople stopped in their tracks, eyes widening with a mix of intrigue and confusion. They had not witnessed such linguistic rebellion since the South seceeded from the Union.
Sir Onomotopeewee began training his slaves to spell words such as hæmatology, fæces, antennæ, and diarrhœa.
As word spread through the town, chaos ensued. Shopkeepers renamed their stores with fancy letter-filled signs. Even the local bank went from 'Bank of America' into 'Bænk of Mærica'. The town's humor and creativity sparked to life, but soon everyone went bankrupt.
As wordplay became the new currency, fortunes were lost, leaving the once thriving community in shambles. The enchanting signs that adorned the streets are now mere artifact.
And so, the tale of Sir Onomotopeewee and their town became a cautionary legend, whispered among future generations. Let it be a lesson that creativity must always be grounded in practicality, lest the allure of linguistic play bind us in its horrid web like a sadomasochist with no sæfe word.
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obviously we should not change keyboards and type writers that do not have them.
in fact considering the rule "i before e" has exceptions both c and non c we should change those by sound for example: receive change to *receve like pattern "these". weight change to *wait because we hear same but still able to distinguish!
yield change to *yeald like pattern meal, friend sounds different from yield, so change to *frend like pattern end.
retrieve not need i like pattern word "these" change to *retreve. if we change this with a star intentionally it will not be considered error.
i am sincere i guess i am a *weerdo! but too bad.
more common exceptions "atheist" due to the root but if rule i before e!
a common color "beige" not "i before e" can be like we hear it, pattern age "bage".
also "except after c" false: ancient not exception, so should spell like we hear "anchint" no e. just not on my resume! lol
More words break the I before E rule than obey it. Schools don't teach it anymore
I like these letters used in gaming for gamer tags, but as I tried to read them in the sentences above, it did hurt my eyes a bit. I’m not sure why they fell out of style in all honesty, but that would be my hint why.
Another guess was maybe it was difficult for some to write; an extra needed skill. Maybe it was difficult to translate over into cursive/ calligraphy. ✍️
I also don’t know for sure how common it was back in the day, but I feel a good handful were dyslexic. Not sure if this had any affect/ made reading and writing easier for them or difficult lol
Same with the long "s" that gets transcribed from old documents so often as an "f". Bring 'em back.
Actually, I would like to see more writing in Latin using Court Hand or Secretary Hand. I need to brush them up to understand old wills and other genealogical documents.
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I use “æ” all the time to make fun of lady in writing, lmao. She’s from New York City, has an accent, and she’ll say like “wualk the duog” for “walk the dog”, but she doesn’t have a super strong “a” accent that people from metro NYC have, but I pretend like she does when I clown on her😝
Example: the way Michael Rappaport is saying “drafted” here…
I would write that as “dræfted” if I was trying to stylize for the accent. “Dey dræfted WHO? Dis cahhksucka might naht even hæve his fuawckin’ Green Cawd!”😂
*make fun of my lady
yes! in brooklyn they say "du-og" but in my part and other cities i always heard "dawg" like sound law!
As "American English" has become more used than the Queen's (or now King's) English internationally fewer grammatically correct spellings are being used. It's sloppy shorthand that makes it harder to learn correct pronunciation by obfuscating the origin and root languages.
I'm sure in time when we catch influenza we'll all go to bed with a chesty cow (cough) and sit on the boff (bough) of the tree as we go threw the woodland without a thawt... 🤡🙄
if we say house then that would rhyme with "you"= like sound how!
Poppy, there are an entire bunch that deserve to brought back. Ye just meant The by the way.
Rob Words has an entire video on lost letters I think you will enjoy which includes ae and oe
https://www.youtube.com/embed/wJxKyh9e5_AWe got rid of them to avoid confusion. We would only cause mayhem if we brought them back. Imagine telling your daughters that they have beautiful fæces. They would be in shock wondering if we like their smiles, or we have a kink for their feces. Let us stay away from such confusing shit. (See, shit is clear while fæces is shitty.)
brilliant!
I don't think we need to return to Olde Englishe. If we just used modern English correctly I'd be perfectly happy with that.
No, English already has enough letters, actually more than it needs. We can get rid of C, for example, since K and S have the same sound.
@Red_Arrow I'd have "a frown upon my fase"
@Red_Arrow Most likely, the word would morph into shizel, closer to the way it's actually pronounced.
@Red_Arrow good point about chisel! a solution would be "q" without letter u in contrast to usual q has u, in quiet and quart, then alone like festival "qixi" similar sound.
Yep we should, but the great vowel shift changed a lot of how we say words.
For the non English types, the great vowel shift had an impact on how we spell and pronounce written words but our accents tended to stay the same. www.studysmarter.co.uk/.../
let's not make English way more English, please...
We can barely handle Brit assholes who put an extra U in words. Not to mention the metric system or their delineation of dates.
metric sucks so bad even european and British books wrote inch and feet after the french tried to change to metres! i was surprised assuming they publisher would use meter but nope!
@strateguy632 guess I don’t read DIY books enough to notice lol
Back in the good Ole days we didn't have punctuation, the invention of punctuation was controversial even! Language changes, it's just how it is
Not really. We don’t need them, and it might confuse some people.
Pronounce that on here give us a demonstration
With all of the abbreviations used today. Especially in texts. Can’t believe anyone would want those letters back in today’s writing.
That would be cool. Old English is so unique, i believe that should also be introduced back
Kids can't even spell without autocorrect.
No anybody that comes to our country needs learn our language
Absolutely
No I don't ever remember using them like that
It depends on context
We should use thorns too
I like antique stuff so yes
Those letters are still used just separated
Please no.
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