Would you do a 12 hour shift at hospital?

[Anonymous]

I got a new job at hospital as admin assistant and I start at 6pm-6am and coworker notices me for not greeting them goodmorning or goodevening like Im so tired to say that is that bad? And by the way Im anxious to say that to them like after 12 hour shift when I say goodbye I will say good morning at 6am like they still expect me to have energy for that

[Dinklex3]

Those are the best shifts in my opinion. I used to do 12+ hour shifts. My dream is 20+ hour shifts. It makes it easier to get hours, but I didn’t work more than 3 days in a row. Rare occasions I’d have 3 days on, 1 off, 3 on which was exhausting but you’d be surprised how energetic you can be at the end of a shift especially if it gets hectic. Panama schedule is great & it can be so nice to hit the grocery store or gym on your off day while everyone else is at work.

It may take a while to adjust though, night shifts can be rough. It helps to have good coworkers & you end up getting close to people.

[IslaTheWitch]

I did internship in psychiatric ward and we also had 12hrs night shifts assisting doctor... my social skills are terrible but I still said hello or goodbye to people I met

Just exercise it... it will become a habit soon

[Asker]

Okay.
You know most of my co workers are intimidating to me. I work with 5 coworkers inside office.

[IslaTheWitch]

those are social expectations... and as they not hurt just comply

[Iron_Man]

You must have a lot of stories to tell working in A mental institution

[Levin]

3x12 hour shifts could work for me. Leaving me with 4 days to do whatever I want.

However, I would personally not work overnight and into the morning. Screws up your body ryththm. And no matter how much sleep you get, if you aren't asleep during those crucial hours of say 10pm to 3am, your performance in strength training is just not as good, in my experience.

As for greetings, just think you all need to chill out. I'm sure you'll be more sociable as you relax more.

[TheSpaceGnome]

I wouldn't work at a hospital at all.
Too high stress, too high risk, and too exausting.

[worldscolide]

Back when i was doing IT at my local hospital, i was doing 24 hours on, 24 hours off, so like 24 hours every other day. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and alternating saturdays and sundays. And when i was off, i was on call, though i was the head of my department, if they reached out to me while i was on call, someone had better be dying or i would fire said person.

[TommyMountainFigure]

I am not sure what hospital you are working in, but I have worked in a hospital forwarding and arranging appointments for clinics amongst other things, and we were not ALLOWED to do more than 7hrs 12 per day.

[Asker]

Philippines and the salary is shit
I didn't get a regular employment because they say I dont have a civil service exam yet because hospital is government so I have to pass it before I become regular at work. Even though Im a college graduate.

[TommyMountainFigure]

Do you have a union, because I suspect they are breaking the law forcing you to work 12 hours a day.. Is that 5 days a week?

[TommyMountainFigure]

I just read this regarding Employment Law in the Philippines:-

Maximum working hours are generally eight hours per day or 48 hours per week. Employees who work in excess of eight hours are entitled to overtime pay of 25% on top of their normal wage, or 30% for if the work is done on a rest day.

[Asker]

I don't know what union is. But yesterday they let us signed a contract stating were only 3 mos and were only (job orders) we will renew it or they will renew the contract if they like our performance. Im not entirely sure last week we did only 48 hours (April 12-15) and now we have another schedule for April (16-30) which is 96 hours
6pm-6am depends sometimes straight 4 days work 2 days day off

[Asker]

Yeah right we dont have overtime pay because they say we are still not regular employees which is sad.

[TommyMountainFigure]

A Union, is an organisation who will fight for your rights, if an employer is treating you unfairly. I see though, in your case the employer is not exceeding the 48 hours per week law. Just they are expecting you to do longer shifts but an extra day off.. The 3 months you speak of is what is known as a term of probation. After the 3 months are up they can decide to terminate your contract, or take you on full employment.

[Asker]

Lol yeah its their decision whatever their decision I will accept that.

[TommyMountainFigure]

Have a read of this. It shows you what you are and aren't entitled to.

www.google.com/.../lewis-silkin-inbrief---employment-law-in-the-philippines---an-overview.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiCuNi13ciFAxVuXUEAHcAyDRwQFnoECA8QAw&usg=AOvVaw025x06JgXHwISm_oCTH9_1

[Asker]

But in previous job at grocery store we work 12 hours a day for a week they dont pay overtime but they give us free breakfast and lunch

[Asker]

I think the owner there is stingy

[TommyMountainFigure]

I also think they were breaking your Country's Laws!

[Asker]

Of course it is and I hope his store will crash and burn.

[Asker]

by the way I was a trainee there. He let go of me he said" its your last day today and he gave me my trainee salary and he said he will call me sometime" in front of my co workers like Im so embarassed and the bathroom there doesn't have flush its manual you have to put a water in a pail to flush it manually no tissue or soap either even though its a grocery store he doesn't want employees to get at least the cheapest brand of soap or tissue for employees to use how cheap can you be?

[TommyMountainFigure]

<< Shaking my head in disgust. I can see why you would have lots of animosity towards him! I hope even though you are STILL doing 12 hour shifts at the hospital, you pass the probation period and go on to permanent employment there, because from what you've told me? You deserve a bit of good fortune

[Asker]

You're so sweet 🥹😭 Thank you very much. I hope so too.

[TommyMountainFigure]

You're very welcome. I cannot do those emote thingies, I just remember the old Yahoo messenger style hug >:D< << that is one there for you!

[Asker]

Nice. by the way Im not entirely sure if I will stay for so long in hospital I really want to earn higher income Im just there to earn money maybe someday once I get money I will apply to factory in Taiwan because salary is higher compared to what I earn here. I want to buy a house for me while my mom is still alive and I want to help her get good nice things.

[Asker]

Because in my country you have to spend $4k for agency abroad so I need to save $4k (200kpesos) includes airplane ticket and other fees.

[Asker]

Salary in hospital is only $350 a mo
While factory worker in Taiwan is like $1000-2000 dollars or like 80k pesos to 100,000 pesos a mo.

[TommyMountainFigure]

You certainly have the motivation to go on and succeed in your endeavours, and I believe that you will do so!

[Asker]

I hope so. Thanks again Mr. Tommy 🥹💓

[TommyMountainFigure]

Wow, that really IS a huge difference. Is the work more stressful though? I tend to have this picture in my head of people being told they have to work harder and harder all the time.

[TommyMountainFigure]

You are very welcome (insert your name here) :D

[Asker]

Not really I think you are more stressed at office because your mind is working in factory its your physical that is tired. Plus they have free food which is win win for me. My friend from college is there now and I told her my job and she encouraged me to come with her so we would be working together because salary is better they have also free food there she showed me a rice and 2 big size fried chickens and a salad on a side.

[Asker]

My name is Alyssa.

[TommyMountainFigure]

When I said insert name here.. I never meant for you to reveal it as you were in anonymity mode, just that was my way of personalising what I said. (You do have a lovely name though)

[TommyMountainFigure]

Chicken, rice and salad huh? That sounds like my sort of food too.

[Asker]

Yeah maybe food varies from day to day. Mr. Tommy would you consider me rudr if I dont say good morning/evening to you at work? I have a social anxiety and its makes me stutter to say that and exchange conversations irl

[TommyMountainFigure]

No, but I have a way of fixing that. You don't have to say hello good morning, or evening.. Just a form of acknowledgment would suffice. So if someone says hello to you, put your hand up to your forehead, tilt it slightly and wave your hand away. That signifies (at least in the UK, US and all over Europe) a hello back without the need for talking. let me see if I can find a video to show you.

[TommyMountainFigure]

I couldn't find one, but a 'thumbs up'.. would that work?

[Asker]

I think a simple hello would work but by the way they dont even greet me good morning first. I just dont really greet people without them greeting me first. I will respond after they greet me.

[TommyMountainFigure]

Ahhhh I see, well why not say hello without looking at them? That way if they ignore you, you won't feel bad because they never knew you were talking to them in the first place? At least then, if they Do say you aren't being friendly, you can say I say good morning/ evening to you every day, I cannot help it if you choose not to answer me back! That way you get the moral high ground!

[Asker]

Lol but not in my case my coworker insisted I should also thanks the ambulance drivers after I told them to conduct an ambu from patient of room to another room. We have a groupchat in messenger and I just text it to them. Sometimes I say thank you sometimes not cuz sometimes there's a patient in front of me and I need to entertain them first. She just notices too I dont say thank you to ambulance drivers

[TommyMountainFigure]

You don't have to thank Ambulance Drivers. I have done that job too (Not the blues and twos though) and I can tell you the drivers would be too tired to even notice most of the time anyway

[Asker]

I feel like my job in hospital they are demanding my behavior lol

[TommyMountainFigure]

Yes I agree, it does sound like it but you only have to think back to the grief you got from your last job and maybe it will not seem so bad?

[Asker]

Yeah I guess so. I think this job is way better. Do you think its rude to fire someone in front of co workers?

[TommyMountainFigure]

Yes, but it also shows a lack of professionalism from the employer!

[Asker]

I just remembered my last job from grocery lol

[TommyMountainFigure]

lol.. I have to get going.. I have a very busy day ahead of me.. but It's been great chatting to you though.

[Asker]

Alright thanks again

[IslaTheWitch]

In any Polish hospital shifts between 12 to 36 hrs are STANDARD...

[Iron_Man]

They do that there a lot. It’s a never-ending thing every time I’ve gone to a hospital. The nurses have those kind of shifts basically they’re married to their job that would be too much every day just to go home to eat take a shower and go right to sleep then get right back up and do it again.

[Purpleronnie]

12 hour shift patterns are commonplace but obviously can take a little to get used to if this is a new thing for you but you should absolutely have the energy to be polite , I mean what effort is it to be nice?

[jennifer_bloom]

I would love to work at a hospital, as long as it's a job I'm able and qualified to handle. I am sensitive to odours so might not be able to work with patients.

[DryGermanGuy]

Why do they need administrative deskworkers to stay for 12 hours? I can understand the ICU staff, nurses and most of the doctors…? 🧐

[Asker]

We write the information of watchers of patient for swabbing and then encode it on computer. If they are negative they can watch the patient if positive we inform them and then they will find another to watch their patient.

[Simslover92]

I think I could definitely do a 12 hour shift especially if it's admin assistant job at a hospital. And then what's usually great about it is you only work 3 or 4 days a week.

[82lynx]

Sometimes I use the Herman Munster wave; it seems to be very energy-efficient. I prefer wordless greetings in general as I don’t want to draw too much attention.

[Rangers]

If I was getting paid well, and not too many problems came up, I think I could do it. But it's not sustainable when it comes to a day to day schedule.

12 hours a day, 5 days a week would wear me out quite a bit

[Bricealan]

Will take you sometime to adjust to that schedule, and hopefully you will get enough sleep to be more congenial as time goes by

[LazerBean]

That's normal at a hospital, so yeah if I chose to work at a hospital then I would.

[sheikalana]

It doesn't matter how tired I am I will always greet my colleagues or whoever sees me at work. Being tired is not an excuse for rudeness.

[DrPepper12]

Never an excuse for poor etiquette. Rustle up the energy and give a glance, a nod or a greeting to acknowledge them

[Nikki1989]

I would, but I can be a workaholic when it is needed.

[gorydetails]

Wait you got a low-level job and can't even handle that?

[Asker]

can't even handle that? Omg I can handle it its just some people complain to my other co workers that I dont greet them goodmorning or goodevening and they say I dont say thank you to ambulance drivers after I told them to pick a patient from another to another room. Wait there's more to one of my co worker who has better position than me said Im okay at my job meaning Im fine at my job but my other co worker complained to me to my other co worker that Im still confuse about things now I wonder who told that.. I can't trust people.

[gorydetails]

Maybe be pleasant and say good morning and good night. IT's not that difficult

[Asker]

I know I just have social anxiety Im scared to greet people

[gorydetails]

that's a lame excuse.

[Asker]

Okay then I dont want to greet them good morning.
But I will try saying that

[gorydetails]

Lol. you can't be a decent human?

[Asker]

Im so tired of being decent. Last time my co workers were not nice to me in my last job so I always think co workers are not your friends

[gorydetails]

lol. so get used to people calling you on your bullshit.

[Asker]

Lol. i will not try explaining myself again

[jahaims]

A 12 hour shift isn't crazy. Most people are used to 8 so it seems like a lot.

[DextroShade]

I would do three 13 hour shifts so I could have the other four days off.

[Darkest-Knight]

Sure I've worked 12 hour shifts for the last 34 years.

[boggboss]

If it paid good enough sure

[Nifrayu]

No. That's too much for me.

[msc545]

I've done it - it is exhausting.

[Trekfan68]

Depending on the job, I definitely would.

[LavLavLuv]

Nope